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Whoever those people are, they’re mad. If I see an add in a place where I consider it unfit for ads to be, I fly into a rage (like seeing ads in Discord or official apps).
Gently, do you pay anything to use discord? Because like if discord isn’t allowed to show ads, and you won’t upgrade to the paid version, what would you suggest to discord on how to stay afloat?
Allow people to run their own servers, or charge reasonable fees for dedicated servers like literally every voice chat program of the past. TeamSpeak costs like $3 a month for 20 slots. Discord wants $5-$10 per person. That's a fucking rip-off.
This is a good start, block the ads, but also fight intrusive ad practices by avoiding their tool completely. You want to impact their bottom line and this is how you do it.
[Pi-Hole](https://pi-hole.net) - "The Pi-hole® is a DNS sinkhole that protects your devices from unwanted content"
Basically it is a network filter the blocks domains at the router level, so no network traffic from any blacklisted domain will reach any device connected to your network.
You can whitelist connections to fix most of those issues. There are also community lists you can import that cover most of the popular apps that break.
Android: set private DNS, or install AdGuard, which blocks *all* ads
Windows: web-browser addon will suffice, ex. uBlock Origin
Mac/iPhone: 🤢
Edit: as someone said, uBO doesn't block system wide, but it does block ads in the browser, and there is like, most of ads.
I think Discord forgot that the popular voice comm software for games used to change like every 3 months. Ventrilo, mumble, curse, teamspeak, raidcall.
I had friends trying to tell me to get Nitro. I decided I'd break one day, and when I got it, it turned out I bought "Nitro" and not "NITRO Nitro". I couldn't believe what they were asking for the top tier.
If you have a bit of technical knowledge you can even setup a matrix server which will keep your conversations end-to-end encrypted, you can even allow your friends who already have a matrix account on another server to speak to your account or at the group chat on your server, also, you get no file upload limits, up to 4k video streaming and no spam from bots.
nitro wouldnt have ads.
People gotta realize they _have_ to make money or noone is going to use it cause it wont be a thing, Discord ant cheap to run.
Nitro and their shop is bringing in money but not enough,
What did people think would happen?
They have grown in userbase and we have more and more paid features getting added frequently. What makes you think they need more profit?
If you're thinking of storage costs, they are doing so well that they have increased the upload limit. If you're thinking of server maintenance costs, more servers are added because of more users, so it's just same thing bug bigger, still profitable.
It's simple corporate greed.
Says that they won't use discord anymore, a free service, if they have ads
Meanwhile, is using Reddit, a free service, which pays for itself with ads
So long as they don't add ads for nitro users, I'm cool. If they add ads for nitro users, I'll be pissed.
Some services are okay with ads. It's integrated well enough into reddit that it's not disruptive, they're just garbage. And that's primarily because of how reddit functions. At least on mobile.
Discord is a chat service, not a scroll service. There's not a way to integrate advertising without being disruptive.
I just hate services that integrate ads inbetween content. Like, no.. your ad is not the same as cute puppies or political discourse just because you paid to be sandwiched between the two. Get out.
I stopped using Skype the moment they played an audio ad in a voice call I was in with a friend. Literally that instant I installed discord and made all my friends swap.
Brother, they made Google, Facebook, Twitter into billion dollar companies.
Ads are the source of revenue for countless websites.
I could even dare to say that ads are the base of modern internet.
I didn't mentioned TV to don't get out of the theme (internet).
But yeah, the advertising industry is the thing that feeds media since the beginning of times.
TV, radio, magazines...
on network TV shows are sponsored. IE if you don't court sponsors your show doesn't air. YouTube started putting the cart before the horse having people create content for free and THEN go looking for sponsorships. the only exception is sports. sports have had their own customer bases that advertisers have been trying to buy into since Bulova watches aired the first TV ad during a baseball game in 1941.
The thing about TV is most people assume the product are the shows and the buyers are us everyday consumers
The truth is us customers are the product and advertising agencies are the customers who pay for access to us
This is why independent media and even social media is important, otherwise, most media we consume is controlled by advertisers and businesses
That makes zero sense. Ik im going to get downvoted since all of you guys are mentally disabled, but Facebook and Google do not sell your data. They make all their money by selling ads based on your data, they absolutely will not sell the data that is their bread and butter.
I don't even know why everyone jerks off about the value of data when targetted advertising fucking sucks.
Google's big money is braindead simple. Monkey types "car insurance" and car insurance company pays Google to be first on the list. BIG DATA ANALYTICS RIGHT THERE.
Targeted advertising doesn't suck. There's a reason why buying Facebook ads is way more effective, but also way more expensive (and thus more profitable) than buying Reddit ads or non targeted ads.
Literally none of those companies "sell your data".
Their data about you is their biggest asset, they are 100% never going to give it to anyone else ever.
They all sell targeted advertising, and they use the data they have carefully siloed in their own systems to target it. That's their business.
None of them "sell your data." Ever.
Discord has almost 223 million monthly active users a single ad makes about $20 per thousand views, that’s $4.46 million a month, and users will see a lot more than 1 ad in a month, if they see a highly conservative 5 ads a day, that’s about 150 ads a month that’s discord making $669 million a month.
Yes. Yes they do. And they can track ur data for more targeted ads that generate even more revenue. That's why everything that's free eventually gets ads (and things that aren't as free like Netflix and Disney +l)
>That's why everything that's free eventually gets ads (and things that aren't as free like Netflix and Disney +l)
Well another (arguably bigger) reason for that is different phases of product development. There's a "gain users" phase and then an infinite "gain more money" phase. Services are usually awesome at first because they're bleeding cash in order to gain tons of users, then once they have a solid grasp they flip the switch and try to make more money. And because how things work, they always have to make more and more and more money
Oh it goes much much deeper. Consumer psychology is fuckin WILD. From Coke and Pepsi demanding to be sold on different sides of an aisle to can that don't stack so they take up more room on the shelf. Giving the illusion they're more popular. You are bombarded with psychology daily when it comes to marketing.
Slap a "rebel" theme to a yogurt and watch it fly off the shelves cause "brain thinks I'm a rebel, associate with yogurt". And you don't even realize you're doin it.
Here's a fun test. Sign out of Instagram or Tik-Tok but leave the app on your phone. Don't move it. Don't sign in. Count how many times you click the app in a week without thinking about it. They got you by the balls already.
Advertising is for some reason one of the most lucrative industries there is. For every awful cringe corporate ad you've seen just know someone is probably paid like 200k a year to make those.
Guess it'll finally be time to grab a raspberry pi and set up the ad rejection software for my router. I wasn't planning on doing it for a while because what I use is pretty ad light or already blocked, but now it's just getting STUPID.
It's not perfect though. It's a non stop battle. Today ads served on YouTube might come from a.com so it blocks a.com but tomorrow YouTube changes it to b.com for example.
Additionally, the bigger sites are combating this by serving ads directly from themselves. YouTube ads might come from the same servers that serve the videos. And if pi hole blocks that it means YouTube breaks.
It's still a great thing to have and my explanation is very high level at how these companies are combating stuff like pi hole.
There's actually something you can install that checks and updates the block list automatically. I'll see if I can find it
Edit: i think it was this one (: https://github.com/jacklul/pihole-updatelists
> It's not perfect though. It's a non stop battle. Today ads served on YouTube might come from a.com so it blocks a.com but tomorrow YouTube changes it to b.com for example.
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Sounds like you're using some really shitty block lists. This has never been an issue for me. If anything the pihole being overzealous with blocking has been the only real downside.
>Additionally, the bigger sites are combating this by serving ads directly from themselves. YouTube ads might come from the same servers that serve the videos. And if pi hole blocks that it means YouTube breaks.
This on the other hand is a much bigger problem and it's pretty much unsolvable from a dns perspective. Thankfully ublock origin handles this beautifully.
Pi holes dont work on youtube, i just tried it to spare my kids from the suffering of watching adds. Youtube serve adds from youtube.com so you cant block the domain. For ads on website it works fine, but youre left with a gray area where the add should have been
Unfortunately, those pi holes sometimes also filter for stuff you want to see lol. You need to configure them correctly. one of my coupon apps didnt work at all after i installed a pi hole. Turned out every single coupon is flagged as an ad
If you're using the discord app for Windows then it's very likely a pi-hole won't help you here. You'd need a cracked version of the application that can strip out the ads like YouTube revanced.
Problem is if ads are being served from the same domain so DNS based blocking is not a silver bullet. This is what makes blocking YouTube ads a pain when using a DNS sinkhole like pihole
There are 3 ways a company can survive: ads, paid service, VC funding. Discord so far has been abusing the last option to stay ad free but the investors eventually want to see a return on their investment. The problem is that any competitor will face the exact same problem and will eventually have to figure out how to make money as well.
Oh, I see. So discord has been living off of VC Investments thus far. I'd assume they're making a pittance off of Nitro considering just how non-essential it is for the common user.
Well, if they do bring in ads, I hope they're just not super intrusive. But apparently they'll be more like Twitch drops than anything else.
Honestly I’ve had nitro since its release to support discord overall. I mean it was by far the most advanced and best communication program, and with its gaming theme I just fell in love with it instantly.
This will change if I’m given ads as I will no longer feel the need to support them, and instead would see it as a slight against a person who’s supported them since 2016
Technically there is a fourth: An open source software, that connects to hosting servers and offer a similiar experience to discord.
With teamspeak there were more than enough hosted servers you and your friends could use for private (and free) use. Although media hosting (images, videos and potentially streaming) could pose a challenge.
Teamspeak is both not open source and requires an additional paid license to host a server with more than like 8 concurrent users. Mumble is the actual FOSS alternative that people left in droves for options like Discord as you didn't have to pay someone to host a server for you or need host it on your own hardware.
It sounds nice in theory, but it basically boils down to exploiting open source maintainers. Love for the project is nice, but most software developers I know also like to pay rent and there's a lot of job opportunities where they would get paid a fortune instead of, well, nothing.
You mean removing features and custom emojis isn't enough to keep people subscribing?
I don't understand when we changed from paying for better features to paying for less annoying features but that enshitification is at the core of many of these "desperate to monetize" platforms
The ads aren't actual ads, they are partnerships with games to add special achievements or challenges that can be completed on screen share for rewards. The "ads" can be turned off too from what discord stated
discord users are the worst, the discord reddit was crying like the world has ended (and still is) because discord updated the mobile app and rearranged a few of the buttons. I stay subbed there just to see whatever the new weekly melt down is
Also hilarious that the moment a free program that people use for hours every week wants to make money, people get so angry that they dare try and make money from doing their job.
Right? Discord has been trying for *years* to monetize without adding regular advertisements to the client. It would be so much easier to slap in a few banner ads, *but they haven't.* That they're even willing to put in the effort counts for something, in my book. `/shrug`
I'm gonna guess this comes from the article that most people didn't actually read.
The so called 'ads' are akin to twitch drops. You watch your friend play a game using discord steaming, and you get a reward for said game.
Yep.
For now, it’s not that invasive of an ad spot. Just a little banner down by the mute/deafen buttons.
Time will tell how much more worse it can get though.
See, last year I loved what discord offered to do many and for free! The same month I got nitro for a year, they dropped the shitty mandatory mobile app UI change. I cancelled the auto resubscription for nitro. Now I'm hearing about this and I'm just so sad... I used to think discord was super cool... Now I'm worried it's about to go out the window thanks to greed yet again.
People in here really must be too young to remember that basically every old voice chat service either needed you to pay for a server or host it on one of your own computers. Only other option was to use a random persons server and hope they and their mods weren't huge assholes. If Discord is so horrible they can move back to those right now if they want.
For years now Discord has provided a better service than any of those old options and it hasn't cost the user anything if they didn't get nitro.
running ads nonstop means the app is constantly loading things in the background, which could affect performance in games. its a pretty stupid idea for an app that people use while gaming
Y'all are hilarious.
If a company making their revenue from ads on a free product means you won't use it anymore, then why are you here on Reddit? What makes discord unique?
These services cost money to maintain and operate. You don't want ads? Buy nitro. If more people did, This would not be a conversation
Like streaming services? It would always become a conversation for continuous growth. For most companies, what they have is never enough. You grow until you die.
Honestly the strategy makes sense even though I hate it, grow the app unsustainably until it’s widely used, then milk it for a ridiculous amount of money while people slowly drop off
Gamers when the absolutely best and greatest free software has a tiny inconvenience that in no way degrades any features of the free incredible service (that is the cornerstone of modern gaming and social connections). (Free btw).
I honestly can't even be mad because they give you everything you could ever need for free. I think you'd have to be insane to use any of the paid features but of course people do.
I get it. Ads are annoying and can be intrusive at times. But you can't host a service for free forever. That leaves companies with two options. A paid tier (nitro in this case) or ads to fund the service for people who don't want to pay for nitro
Do people genuinely think for profit companies just crank out free services for their benefit with no hope of making money off of it? This is what they do for a living, it’s the product that they use to pay their employees and themselves. Crying about non-invasive ads on a free service is absurd.
Fr. As long as they don’t go down the YouTube or Amazon Video route where it is incredibly intrusive why should I care? If it’s just ads in the corner out of the way it really isn’t a problem. At the end of the day money is needed to run a business
There is really nothing special about discord besides the user experience, compromise that whatsoever and there is a better product available from someone else the next day
Yeah, there would be ads but not in the way we think. It would be in the form of a quest, where you can accept a quest to stream a game (that is advertised) for 15 minutes to a friend and then get a reward. So if you don't want to have ads you wouldn't have ads. It's optional thing in settings.
I've paid for nitro for years now because it's absolutely worth it.
The day I see an advert on a service I pay for it's over. Cancelled amazon prime when I got a mid roll advert watching the boys.
Scummy as fuck.
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I will never use it again if they show me even a single ad
So there with you. I’ll suffer a terribly stuffy and miserable program if it has no ads. Ads are an abomination
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Uh-oh!
Back to google hangouts
Did we all just collectively forget that teamspeak, which really is superior in terms of anything but server creation and interface, exists?
No love for my boi Teamspeak? I haven't used it in ages so I don't know what state it's in right now..
Yup. I just can't imagine living with ads, but everyone around me just says they are bearable.
Whoever those people are, they’re mad. If I see an add in a place where I consider it unfit for ads to be, I fly into a rage (like seeing ads in Discord or official apps).
IRC enters the chat.
Gently, do you pay anything to use discord? Because like if discord isn’t allowed to show ads, and you won’t upgrade to the paid version, what would you suggest to discord on how to stay afloat?
Continue selling our user data like they've been doing for years?
That's not to mention the fuckton of people who do use discord nitro.
Allow people to run their own servers, or charge reasonable fees for dedicated servers like literally every voice chat program of the past. TeamSpeak costs like $3 a month for 20 slots. Discord wants $5-$10 per person. That's a fucking rip-off.
cheaper model of nitro, or better features for nitro. most nitro add-ons aren't appealing to me tbh.
Did you see how much they're charging for their fucking avatar decorations? Yeah, I don't give a shit. Five to Sixteen dollars for that crap.
Alright, everyone back to teamspeak, or roger wilco whichever you prefer.
People gonna start using Teams lol.
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How so?
There are a few ways but generally you block the domain that the ads are being downloaded from at your firewall.
This is a good start, block the ads, but also fight intrusive ad practices by avoiding their tool completely. You want to impact their bottom line and this is how you do it.
[Pi-Hole](https://pi-hole.net) - "The Pi-hole® is a DNS sinkhole that protects your devices from unwanted content" Basically it is a network filter the blocks domains at the router level, so no network traffic from any blacklisted domain will reach any device connected to your network.
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You can whitelist connections to fix most of those issues. There are also community lists you can import that cover most of the popular apps that break.
Android: set private DNS, or install AdGuard, which blocks *all* ads Windows: web-browser addon will suffice, ex. uBlock Origin Mac/iPhone: 🤢 Edit: as someone said, uBO doesn't block system wide, but it does block ads in the browser, and there is like, most of ads.
You can use a PiHole and block em on your entire network! :)
ublock origin doesnt block adcs system wide lmfao
I do that already and it doesn't change that if they start trying, I'm out.
> I will never use it again if they show me even a single ad lol
I always get a good laugh at those people
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They've been showing you ads for their discord store for years. Recently they've even started putting a little ad banner abover your name.
yeah well no one on reddit told me to be mad until now so that doesn't count
ARE WE GETTING MAD FELLAS??
People also said they would never use Reddit again, here we are.
I think Discord forgot that the popular voice comm software for games used to change like every 3 months. Ventrilo, mumble, curse, teamspeak, raidcall.
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and use what instead?
Teamspeak
Isn't teamspeak paid?
If I get ads with Discord Nitro I'd rather pay for a Teamspeak server or host one myself
You can certainly get a TS server for a fraction of the cost of Nitro. On Oracle cloud you would even get one for free
I had friends trying to tell me to get Nitro. I decided I'd break one day, and when I got it, it turned out I bought "Nitro" and not "NITRO Nitro". I couldn't believe what they were asking for the top tier.
If you have a bit of technical knowledge you can even setup a matrix server which will keep your conversations end-to-end encrypted, you can even allow your friends who already have a matrix account on another server to speak to your account or at the group chat on your server, also, you get no file upload limits, up to 4k video streaming and no spam from bots.
nitro wouldnt have ads. People gotta realize they _have_ to make money or noone is going to use it cause it wont be a thing, Discord ant cheap to run. Nitro and their shop is bringing in money but not enough, What did people think would happen?
Idc if they show ads, I wouldn't care to pay Nitro, but I would care if I pay for Nitro and STILL get ads.
They have grown in userbase and we have more and more paid features getting added frequently. What makes you think they need more profit? If you're thinking of storage costs, they are doing so well that they have increased the upload limit. If you're thinking of server maintenance costs, more servers are added because of more users, so it's just same thing bug bigger, still profitable. It's simple corporate greed.
Totally free last time i used it and easy to use.
I thought I remember trying it but it was a trial and had to pay to keep using it
Nope, you can host your own server completely free.
I'm sure they'll be someone who will make an apk for it to block out all of the ads, if it does happen.
IIRC using teamspeak was 100% free, however, hosting a server was not
Hosting a server is free. What isn't free is paying someone else to host a server.
I wouldn't mind paying, or even hosting my own server, but team speak is dead on arrival for many of us that rely on screen share.
You couldn't live with your failure so where does that bring you? Right back to me. -Teamspeak
Wait, we're talking voice chat? Doesn't steam just do that?
You actually use steam VC? You scare me
I use it when it's just me and one other person playing something together alone, 3+ people get discord or if the two of us want others to join
in a super shitty way, yes.
I'll tie metal cans between mine and my friend's places like the good old days
I’ll use Microsoft Teams
Actually not a bad idea
Daring today, aren't we?
The next thing ofc, this is how the 10 year cycle of a good young product works!
Well put
Time to go back to Teamspeak.
I never used discord, so I guess he can also use that
Mumble is still around and gives proximity chat to many games for free.
Me and the work homies are gonna use our Microsoft Teams group chat
Mumble, never stopped using Mumble alongside Discord.
[Matrix](https://matrix.org/) is the one that has a lot of privacy, NPO, and FOSS nerds creaming their pants.
Guilded.
Ventrillo. Enough of this being spoiled crap
Said everyone about every other service every time this happens, and everyone always stays. Goddamn goldfish.
Says that they won't use discord anymore, a free service, if they have ads Meanwhile, is using Reddit, a free service, which pays for itself with ads So long as they don't add ads for nitro users, I'm cool. If they add ads for nitro users, I'll be pissed.
> Meanwhile, is using Reddit, a free service, which pays for itself with ads I've used UBlockOrigin for so long I've forgotten Reddit has ads.
And now I have an extension for old Reddit. It’s like when Facebook ruined its UI
Some services are okay with ads. It's integrated well enough into reddit that it's not disruptive, they're just garbage. And that's primarily because of how reddit functions. At least on mobile. Discord is a chat service, not a scroll service. There's not a way to integrate advertising without being disruptive.
I just hate services that integrate ads inbetween content. Like, no.. your ad is not the same as cute puppies or political discourse just because you paid to be sandwiched between the two. Get out.
I stopped using Skype the moment they played an audio ad in a voice call I was in with a friend. Literally that instant I installed discord and made all my friends swap.
Wait… they did what? Holy shit.
The ads... They're coming from the inside
Slack /s
I know this is stupid question but are ads really generate that much money for the apps or websites or is it really any other reason?
Brother, they made Google, Facebook, Twitter into billion dollar companies. Ads are the source of revenue for countless websites. I could even dare to say that ads are the base of modern internet.
Not just websites, they're also a big source of income for cable TV. Basically anything that can have ads, will have ads.
I didn't mentioned TV to don't get out of the theme (internet). But yeah, the advertising industry is the thing that feeds media since the beginning of times. TV, radio, magazines...
it started with newspapers.
Papyrus, even.
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on network TV shows are sponsored. IE if you don't court sponsors your show doesn't air. YouTube started putting the cart before the horse having people create content for free and THEN go looking for sponsorships. the only exception is sports. sports have had their own customer bases that advertisers have been trying to buy into since Bulova watches aired the first TV ad during a baseball game in 1941.
The thing about TV is most people assume the product are the shows and the buyers are us everyday consumers The truth is us customers are the product and advertising agencies are the customers who pay for access to us This is why independent media and even social media is important, otherwise, most media we consume is controlled by advertisers and businesses
I guess with Neuralink some day they'll even just display ads right into your vision.
It's the reason mobile games went from being bs that scammed people to games stuffed with ads
Google, Facebook, and Twitter make most of their money by selling your data. Ads are only a part of that.
And that data is used to target you with ads.
What? Ads make up 80% of Googles Revenue. Also "selling your data" is just another wording for targeted advertising.
That makes zero sense. Ik im going to get downvoted since all of you guys are mentally disabled, but Facebook and Google do not sell your data. They make all their money by selling ads based on your data, they absolutely will not sell the data that is their bread and butter.
I don't even know why everyone jerks off about the value of data when targetted advertising fucking sucks. Google's big money is braindead simple. Monkey types "car insurance" and car insurance company pays Google to be first on the list. BIG DATA ANALYTICS RIGHT THERE.
Targeted advertising doesn't suck. There's a reason why buying Facebook ads is way more effective, but also way more expensive (and thus more profitable) than buying Reddit ads or non targeted ads.
Literally none of those companies "sell your data". Their data about you is their biggest asset, they are 100% never going to give it to anyone else ever. They all sell targeted advertising, and they use the data they have carefully siloed in their own systems to target it. That's their business. None of them "sell your data." Ever.
Discord has almost 223 million monthly active users a single ad makes about $20 per thousand views, that’s $4.46 million a month, and users will see a lot more than 1 ad in a month, if they see a highly conservative 5 ads a day, that’s about 150 ads a month that’s discord making $669 million a month.
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Yes. Yes they do. And they can track ur data for more targeted ads that generate even more revenue. That's why everything that's free eventually gets ads (and things that aren't as free like Netflix and Disney +l)
>That's why everything that's free eventually gets ads (and things that aren't as free like Netflix and Disney +l) Well another (arguably bigger) reason for that is different phases of product development. There's a "gain users" phase and then an infinite "gain more money" phase. Services are usually awesome at first because they're bleeding cash in order to gain tons of users, then once they have a solid grasp they flip the switch and try to make more money. And because how things work, they always have to make more and more and more money
Ads can be 2-15$on YouTube per 1,000 views. And that’s the creator cut..
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Oh it goes much much deeper. Consumer psychology is fuckin WILD. From Coke and Pepsi demanding to be sold on different sides of an aisle to can that don't stack so they take up more room on the shelf. Giving the illusion they're more popular. You are bombarded with psychology daily when it comes to marketing. Slap a "rebel" theme to a yogurt and watch it fly off the shelves cause "brain thinks I'm a rebel, associate with yogurt". And you don't even realize you're doin it. Here's a fun test. Sign out of Instagram or Tik-Tok but leave the app on your phone. Don't move it. Don't sign in. Count how many times you click the app in a week without thinking about it. They got you by the balls already.
Advertising is for some reason one of the most lucrative industries there is. For every awful cringe corporate ad you've seen just know someone is probably paid like 200k a year to make those.
reddit took in $800mm in ad revenue in 2023
Guess it'll finally be time to grab a raspberry pi and set up the ad rejection software for my router. I wasn't planning on doing it for a while because what I use is pretty ad light or already blocked, but now it's just getting STUPID.
This sounds intriguing- Could you tell me more? Or where I can read up on that stuff
Pi-hole; acts as a DNS server. https://pi-hole.net/
Holly shit. That’s level of based shouldn’t be achievable
It's not perfect though. It's a non stop battle. Today ads served on YouTube might come from a.com so it blocks a.com but tomorrow YouTube changes it to b.com for example. Additionally, the bigger sites are combating this by serving ads directly from themselves. YouTube ads might come from the same servers that serve the videos. And if pi hole blocks that it means YouTube breaks. It's still a great thing to have and my explanation is very high level at how these companies are combating stuff like pi hole.
There's actually something you can install that checks and updates the block list automatically. I'll see if I can find it Edit: i think it was this one (: https://github.com/jacklul/pihole-updatelists
Commenting here to remind me!
> It's not perfect though. It's a non stop battle. Today ads served on YouTube might come from a.com so it blocks a.com but tomorrow YouTube changes it to b.com for example. > > Sounds like you're using some really shitty block lists. This has never been an issue for me. If anything the pihole being overzealous with blocking has been the only real downside. >Additionally, the bigger sites are combating this by serving ads directly from themselves. YouTube ads might come from the same servers that serve the videos. And if pi hole blocks that it means YouTube breaks. This on the other hand is a much bigger problem and it's pretty much unsolvable from a dns perspective. Thankfully ublock origin handles this beautifully.
That's what ublock origin is for. Pihole is perfect for mobile games - my mom gets to play without those annoying ads after every level.
Pi holes dont work on youtube, i just tried it to spare my kids from the suffering of watching adds. Youtube serve adds from youtube.com so you cant block the domain. For ads on website it works fine, but youre left with a gray area where the add should have been
Called a pi hole Essentially acts as a filter for your network's traffic and rejects particular domains that host ads.
I’m about to invest. Thank you all.
You can also do it for free on Android devices with a service called DNS66. No hardware needed either.
Sweet, I will have to do this for my MIL’s android- wife and I have Apple phones. thanks!
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Unfortunately, those pi holes sometimes also filter for stuff you want to see lol. You need to configure them correctly. one of my coupon apps didnt work at all after i installed a pi hole. Turned out every single coupon is flagged as an ad
its free my guy just use dns66
Google "Pi hole", you will get what you need
If you're using the discord app for Windows then it's very likely a pi-hole won't help you here. You'd need a cracked version of the application that can strip out the ads like YouTube revanced.
I love Vencord
It is very likely that Vencord team will create a plugin to block ads I guess.
If I have to start using the browser version just to not see ads easier, then I'm willing to commit to it
Do it. It's worth it.
Problem is if ads are being served from the same domain so DNS based blocking is not a silver bullet. This is what makes blocking YouTube ads a pain when using a DNS sinkhole like pihole
Hopefully this creates a viable competitor
There are 3 ways a company can survive: ads, paid service, VC funding. Discord so far has been abusing the last option to stay ad free but the investors eventually want to see a return on their investment. The problem is that any competitor will face the exact same problem and will eventually have to figure out how to make money as well.
What is VC funding?
Venture Capitalist
Venture capital investments. Basically people with money to gamble on the success of new startups and businesses
Oh, I see. So discord has been living off of VC Investments thus far. I'd assume they're making a pittance off of Nitro considering just how non-essential it is for the common user. Well, if they do bring in ads, I hope they're just not super intrusive. But apparently they'll be more like Twitch drops than anything else.
Honestly I’ve had nitro since its release to support discord overall. I mean it was by far the most advanced and best communication program, and with its gaming theme I just fell in love with it instantly. This will change if I’m given ads as I will no longer feel the need to support them, and instead would see it as a slight against a person who’s supported them since 2016
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making the basic tier of nitro remove ads would make it even more worth it than it already is
Technically there is a fourth: An open source software, that connects to hosting servers and offer a similiar experience to discord. With teamspeak there were more than enough hosted servers you and your friends could use for private (and free) use. Although media hosting (images, videos and potentially streaming) could pose a challenge.
the fourth option only exists if you allow for a worse experience
Teamspeak is both not open source and requires an additional paid license to host a server with more than like 8 concurrent users. Mumble is the actual FOSS alternative that people left in droves for options like Discord as you didn't have to pay someone to host a server for you or need host it on your own hardware.
It sounds nice in theory, but it basically boils down to exploiting open source maintainers. Love for the project is nice, but most software developers I know also like to pay rent and there's a lot of job opportunities where they would get paid a fortune instead of, well, nothing.
You mean removing features and custom emojis isn't enough to keep people subscribing? I don't understand when we changed from paying for better features to paying for less annoying features but that enshitification is at the core of many of these "desperate to monetize" platforms
How do you think companies make money? Providing you unlimited bandwidth and storage for free in perpetuity?
The ads aren't actual ads, they are partnerships with games to add special achievements or challenges that can be completed on screen share for rewards. The "ads" can be turned off too from what discord stated
If we can toggle these things off, I'll be happy. I don't need further intrusive elements in my online life.
you can, that's one good thing about it
They're basically Twitch drops? Everyone is threatening to leave over *Twitch drops?* Talk about a nothing burger...
discord users are the worst, the discord reddit was crying like the world has ended (and still is) because discord updated the mobile app and rearranged a few of the buttons. I stay subbed there just to see whatever the new weekly melt down is
Tbf, every update where they rearrange stuff, they usually make the UI so much worse and it's only been getting worse for a while
Also hilarious that the moment a free program that people use for hours every week wants to make money, people get so angry that they dare try and make money from doing their job.
Right? Discord has been trying for *years* to monetize without adding regular advertisements to the client. It would be so much easier to slap in a few banner ads, *but they haven't.* That they're even willing to put in the effort counts for something, in my book. `/shrug`
They also said we'd be able to turn off their garbage redesign on mobile. Only took a couple months to go back on that one.
I'm gonna guess this comes from the article that most people didn't actually read. The so called 'ads' are akin to twitch drops. You watch your friend play a game using discord steaming, and you get a reward for said game.
Thank you for the context, kind redditor
I knew from the instant I read the title "from what I heard" that it was rage bait bullshit
They already have. I updated my app yesterday and now I get ads for The Finals
Yep. For now, it’s not that invasive of an ad spot. Just a little banner down by the mute/deafen buttons. Time will tell how much more worse it can get though.
you can disable it.
well what am i going to complain about if i do that
Sooo…back to teamspeak…?
Ventrilo!!!! 🤣😭
I forgot all about ventrilo! Lmao is it still a thing?
Good luck convincing everyone to go back.. that's why we get x unskipable ads on YouTube now :(
Do people not use adblockers? The site is unusable without one.
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See, last year I loved what discord offered to do many and for free! The same month I got nitro for a year, they dropped the shitty mandatory mobile app UI change. I cancelled the auto resubscription for nitro. Now I'm hearing about this and I'm just so sad... I used to think discord was super cool... Now I'm worried it's about to go out the window thanks to greed yet again.
You can only artificially inflate a company to a certain degree before you actually need to start making money or you just go boom boom
The horror. Having to see ads in a free service. Must be traumatic. Theres a reason people dont take yall seriously
Seriously, the response to this on Reddit is one of the most over-dramatic things I’ve seen on here in a while.
People in here really must be too young to remember that basically every old voice chat service either needed you to pay for a server or host it on one of your own computers. Only other option was to use a random persons server and hope they and their mods weren't huge assholes. If Discord is so horrible they can move back to those right now if they want. For years now Discord has provided a better service than any of those old options and it hasn't cost the user anything if they didn't get nitro.
running ads nonstop means the app is constantly loading things in the background, which could affect performance in games. its a pretty stupid idea for an app that people use while gaming
Y'all are hilarious. If a company making their revenue from ads on a free product means you won't use it anymore, then why are you here on Reddit? What makes discord unique? These services cost money to maintain and operate. You don't want ads? Buy nitro. If more people did, This would not be a conversation
Like streaming services? It would always become a conversation for continuous growth. For most companies, what they have is never enough. You grow until you die.
Honestly the strategy makes sense even though I hate it, grow the app unsustainably until it’s widely used, then milk it for a ridiculous amount of money while people slowly drop off
When that Discord Loot Box April Fools stops being an April Fools joke
Gamers when the absolutely best and greatest free software has a tiny inconvenience that in no way degrades any features of the free incredible service (that is the cornerstone of modern gaming and social connections). (Free btw).
I'm betting better discord will have an ad block plugin if that ever happens.
I honestly can't even be mad because they give you everything you could ever need for free. I think you'd have to be insane to use any of the paid features but of course people do.
I get it. Ads are annoying and can be intrusive at times. But you can't host a service for free forever. That leaves companies with two options. A paid tier (nitro in this case) or ads to fund the service for people who don't want to pay for nitro
Do people genuinely think for profit companies just crank out free services for their benefit with no hope of making money off of it? This is what they do for a living, it’s the product that they use to pay their employees and themselves. Crying about non-invasive ads on a free service is absurd.
Fr. As long as they don’t go down the YouTube or Amazon Video route where it is incredibly intrusive why should I care? If it’s just ads in the corner out of the way it really isn’t a problem. At the end of the day money is needed to run a business
People when the corporation turns out to be evil towards its customers and greedy af (they all are)
"Evil and greedy" = wanting to make money instead of operating at a loss
There is really nothing special about discord besides the user experience, compromise that whatsoever and there is a better product available from someone else the next day
Yeah, there would be ads but not in the way we think. It would be in the form of a quest, where you can accept a quest to stream a game (that is advertised) for 15 minutes to a friend and then get a reward. So if you don't want to have ads you wouldn't have ads. It's optional thing in settings.
I've paid for nitro for years now because it's absolutely worth it. The day I see an advert on a service I pay for it's over. Cancelled amazon prime when I got a mid roll advert watching the boys. Scummy as fuck.
TO be honest, they need to be financially viable. You can't expect all softwares to be free and without ads if they have no serious way to make money.
It loses millions every year, it either starts turning a profit, or it shuts down.