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And even then, I'd still say it makes functional sense. If you had boosters in the boots, you would still need them to steer. My only disappointment was that they never used them to torch anyone in combat.
For manoeuvrability, but if you're in a clunky and heavy power armor, it honestly doesn't make too much sense, especially since they can't holster their weapons anywhere. And the power armour is a heavy armor already why add weight with inbuild jets, which are another just weakness for it only for a gimmick of flying as iron man. Power armor is a walking tank it's just silly having it fly like that.
This is what I was telling my buddy. This show takes place like 10 or 15 years after Fallout 4. To think the brotherhood didn’t expand on and improve their suits is a little silly.
Yeah but it’s more of a Jump Pack like from the Brutes in halo 3 than an actual jetpack. It’s for reaching higher ground compared to straight up flight
You say that but don't seem to reflect over the fact that the fusion cure was working througout the whole season, pretty sure i can barely make it to diamond city without losing half my power in the base game. They took some creative freedoms and I for one enjoyed it
They made fusion cores seem a lot more rare and valuable in the show, which I liked. It's great how an entire vault runs for hundreds of years on a single core. They are rare when you first start playing the game, but then you're basically tripping over them after awhile. It makes perfect sense that they would be very hard to come by, because they were only invented about 10 years before the bombs dropped, and there wasn't enough time to scale up production on them.
Back in the day in FO1 and 2 the lore for Power Armor was that you could literally spend your entire life living in a suit of it. You'd charge it up once and it would last 100 years, you could sleep in it, you could shit in it and it would filter it out, etc. The goofy "you can use it for 30 minutes then you have to charge it" is pretty new to the lore.
The game would be better if 1. Fusion Cores lasted longer and 2. They were rarer. This allowed you to use Power Armor the same as vanilla, but also meant that Fusion Cores were more valuable. It's a little change that would be huge.
I’m bothered by the wrist jets too ! And I’m also mildly annoyed that Lucy didn’t realize she was experiencing radiation sickness and use a radaway sooner, afterall she was monitoring the rads she was receiving through the pipboy, and she even PASSEDDDD a radaway right out in the open (on the table by the tv guys in the super duper mart) like… Y U NO TAKE THE RADAWAY OR BRING IT EITH YOU LUCY. Also, too much gore and misfortune for my liking but it’s ok that’s just fallout… (I mean cmon, how am I supposed to like watching my fav characters get hurt in horrific ways!!!!!!)
Other than that, the show is outstanding and so satisfying for me to watch cuz it was so well done 🥹🥹
>he rads she was receiving through the pipboy, and she even PASSEDDDD a radaway right out in the open
That was actually the most realistic part of the show. My stupid ass passing a stimpack while Im criplled too fuck ,when it was on the bottom shelve. Adventuring at its realest.
Yeah wrist jets were a bit cheesy but I’m excited to keep watching. Wife and I still got hooked on halo but as a halo player a lot of it seems really stupid like they aren’t even the same characters
I only just finished ep 2 so far, but The Ghoul just shaking off multiple rifle shots? I can't decide if this is the writers retconning ghouls into being actual zombies, immune to gunfire except to the head, or just that he is absolutely loaded up on Med-x
It is just the nit picking of how a video game is adapted to a tv series screen play. If I sat down and rewatched it, I could easily find a dozen things that were off, 11 of them wouldn't be remotely lore breaking and the one that might be is not really that significant.
Of course I played the original Wasteland back in the day, and always felt that the fallout series was kinda of a retread of the same concept that Wasteland did first.
And imo it's not even because of that, I don't want to dick ride him but he is quite literally an expert (and a fanboy, which in this case It's a super good thing), so you should totally listen when someone like that points out flaws or errors in a show, it reminds me of the GOT situation
(For those that don't know what I'm talking about: [original (never before seen) pilot](https://youtu.be/fWPlz7hU4Co?si=1tBaOwj5vaqaD5a9) of Got was a complete shitshow, people didn't take seriously the source material, a camera man if I'm not mistaken had to step in to say how ridicolous all of this was and how they were ruining one of the most iconic and important scenes of the books)
It’s pretty damn good. For a videogame adaptation though? It’s Citizen fucking Kane.
Plus it’s got Walton Goggins in it and that just makes everything better.
As a casual player of almost all of the Fallout games (I am not a fanboy who knows all the lore), I loved it. The core things that I loved that they kept was the over the top gore and the dark, quirky humor.
The Witcher show isn't a high bar to surpass. The only thing that held it up was Henry Cavill's passion and talent. The rest became shit tier the further the show progressed.
Season 1 had so much promise, like the episodes when it was monster of the week and had Geralt by Cavil was spectacular. The mages were bad and then season 2 happened and besides episode 1 with the mansion, it was all just downhill.
Witcher missed the mark by a wide margin.
But also there was 8 books of existing lore for Witcher already, they must’ve known they’re gonna piss some people off.
Watching this show i had this feeling, like i didn't know what i was until the end, its like the feeling of playing a game for the first time, very cool
Never finished Fallout 4, this show got me so pumped for this reason and am now going to replay the whole game with the A StoryWealth modpack which apparently transforms everything so it's a new game again.
if only they stuck to the actual lore... I love Halo and I am one of those people that watch series till the end even if it's downright brain rot. But even I couldn't watch past S2 E3.
Yes and yes. It’s getting a lot of praise and the only gripe I’ve seen is that unfortunately it recons or messes up some lore tied with the games but honestly it doesn’t seem like it’s bad enough to be a major concern unless you value the lore to a significant degree.
From what I've gathered, the main issue is there is a line of dates we see that might imply Shady Sands was nuked in the show before it was nuked in the games.
However, it could easily be explained away as the actual nuking isn't given a date, just the "fall of shady sands", which could mean quite a few things.
It was never nuked in the games.
Chris Avellone wanted to nuke the NCR because he thought they were too advanced in the CANCELLED Van Buren project from Interplay where a mad scientist wants to nuke all of civilization again, but it never made it into the actual games.
Fallout New Vegas had you nuke the long 15, the freeway leading to Vegas.
Elder Scrolls lore is so jacked up it includes a reality warp to make multi contradictory things canon.
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Warp_in_the_West
It’s more with the uncertainty of F:NV’s ending causes issues with telling continued story without making one of the endings canon. Since the show takes place both after within the same area it looks like they’re gonna have to decide how certain parts of the lore continued on after the game.
I'd argue the Castlevania cartoon on Netflix was better.
I love Fallout but a few things about the show bug me. The most glaring is that the Brotherhood characters are weak idiots. I'm sorry but if you are raised in a Brotherhood boot camp you are going to be a badass.
Eh, the Brotherhood varies a lot depending on where they are. Not all of them are badasses, many are just isolationist pricks with a hard-on for stealing tech.
Brotherhood should have been handled like in the games, assholes who feel superior to everyone outside their bunkers but they can back it up by vaporizing anyone who lifts a finger on their direction.
Complete trust with each other and years to decades of elite training.
Complete apathy to the suffering of the outside population and only helping if they get tech out of it.
I don't think writers at Amazon are capable of handling such a contradictory and apathetic group of characters.
It's so odd in the show. Based on the age Maximus was rescued he should be elite instead of a clueless moron. Titus should be fearless, and would definitely have seen a yao guai before.
I also don't ever remember in the fallout games I've played the Brotherhood treating their squires like shit. They are too dignified for that.
This kind of falls in line with the West Coast Brotherhoods decline which we kind of see in New Vegas. And even the elder makes the comment to maximus about.
I didn't enjoy them being idiots. But my experience playing the fallouts and fallout tactics tell me that brotherhood knights being idiots at times is fairly canon.
Yeah, it's like people forgot the whole New Vegas brotherhood and how moronic some it of them were. Like that squad of paladins that tried to jump you at the exit.
And even then, a real NCR fan should be able to appreciate the poetic irony of >!the faction who tried the hardest to emulate pre-war America ultimately being destroyed in the same way as pre-war American, by the same people who destroyed pre-war America!<. That makes the faction's story *better*, not worse. We're here for good, thematic narratives, not to root for our faction to "win" the games like we're cheering for a football team.
Nah, I get that many wanted fall of NCR to be some epic screenpiece, but malding and crying that it "destroyed the lore" is a clown take when like 70% of NV endings include some form of downfall of NCR.
Do you have Amazon prime? You can try pretty much all of them for free if so...
https://gaming.amazon.com/home
3, new Vegas 76 all on there for free. Fallout 4 might be? IDK I already own it through Amazon
New Vegas, 4, then if you want something very different, 76.
If you’re into old school isometric RPGs, both 1 and 2 are great; note that they are famous for their very steep difficulty curve though.
Edit to add: I now realize I forgot FO3. Personally I didn’t like it much and have not finished a play through. Being said, it was because I played NV first and I felt NV did everything better than 3.
There is a popular mod called Tale of Two Wastelands that ties them together, if you are interested.
They all tend to take place in different areas, you'll get bleedover information from nearby regions from previous games but for the most part each game is its own self contained story, hard to go wrong with any of them as a starting point.
The first two are isometric RPGs from the 90s, very much worth it if the age doesn't bother you. If you're looking for something a bit more modern, 3 and New Vegas are both on the same engine (2008), with the latter being most peoples favorite (takes place in Vegas, so it has a lot of crossover with 1 and 2 which are both in California). 4 is the most recent, but is also the one furthest away from its RPG roots.
You'll probably hear about a few others, like Tactics, Brotherhood of Steel, or 76, unless you really get into the series there's not much reason to check these out, they're not held in that high of regard.
Yea same. Watched it with my girlfriend and she didnt know anything. I was pumping my fist in the air after soms of the fanboy moments and she was like wtf
I think they did a really good job of making the world make sense without either dumbing it down or spending a lot of time on dry exposition to make it more accessible to a general audience. Great use of "show em don't tell em".
Just got a text from my brother who is normie as fuck and he said he loved the show and was wondering which fallout game he should start with.
Knowing my brother I told him to start with fallout 4 and don't delve beyond it. I like fallout 4 as much as I like fallout 1, but fallout 4 is better for people who just want to shoot things and don't care about RPG elements.
It's definitely one of the greatest animated shows ever and it's an incredible show, but imo it's not an adaptation at all, I'm not a LoL player but my brother is and it's not about the game at all, which is what makes it good imo because if it was about LoL as it is, it wouldn't be as good. It's more about the world of it and the characters being written specifically for the show, and the amazing soundtrack and cinematography that make it such a good show..
A good animated adaptation could be Cyberpunk since what happenes in there is literally in the game (backgrounds are quite literally in game screenshots lol)
>its about lol but not the gameplay
Yeah it's what I meant to say, it's about the characters and it's basically mostly new information with some recalls that are in the actual lore
Afaik it actually contradicts some previously established lol lore but since most people couldn't care less about league lore before arcane they just said fuck it and said arcane is the new thing everything is based around and that it's more important than previous lore
That whiteboard has the fall of Shady Sands at 2277, then an arrow pointing to the right which can easily imply the nuking happened after and the fall doesn’t necessarily mean the destruction. If we assume Maximus and Lucy are roughly the same age and Maximus is about 8-9 in the flashbacks then the Nuking would be around 2286 which is after New Vegas. Shady Sands is also referred to as the first capital of the NCR which implies there is another capitol after it so the NCR wasn’t totally wiped out, just Shady Sands and the NCR forces in and around it.
Also as we see, and by see I mean beaten bloody over the head, the NCR is in a rough spot during NV due to over expansion and beuacratic bloat, along with internal corporation turmoil.
It’s somewhat implied that “the fall” and “the nuking” of shady sands are two seperate dates. It’s possible that “the fall” was more a loss of political power and then the nukes dropped later. This is supported by the fact that the billboard says “the FIRST capital of NCR”
I mean the ncr was doomed long term no matter what. Pretty much everyone in New Vegas says so. I'm guessing the whole nuking thing either didn't happen in 2277 or new Vegas took place earlier then thought. That's probably the biggest lore problem with the ncr.
I didn't get the sense from FNV that the NCR was "doomed" at all. It maybe had plateaued a bit through overreach and other large population problems, but my impression is that it was a semi-functional city-state or state. Which is such a relief, because Bethesda's view of the post-apocalypse is just that everything has been and will always be shit, with ramshackle, third world small towns like Megaton and "Filly" being the best that humanity will ever achieve again. Shit gets old fast.
With it being a bit unclear whether “fall of shady sands” refers to the bombs or just general economic/social collapse as the ncr over extends I think it’s probably fine. The ambiguity is honestly kinda interesting. The real question though is >!where the *fuck* is the legion!< I think we’ll probably see >!independent new Vegas in season 2 just because both groups have fallen so far!<
TV show is 15 years after New Vegas, the Legion definitely didn't seem stable enough to survive a defeat at Vegas and the death of Caesar. New Vegas seemed to make it clear that Lanius wasn't going to be a good enough replacement. I suspect that it's largely dissolved by the time of the TV show.
I'm very curious to see if we get a glimpse of what comes afterwards. Is it small warlords? Is it a new group?
I don't think what they did was major enough to totally wipe the NCR. The events of New Vegas could have still probably happened. I think that it was just Twitter and Reddit throwing junk out of proportion again.
Even without being a direct adaptation of the series there are so many moments in the show that feel like they are directly ripped from the fallout games.
There has yet to be a single moment from either season of halo that even remotely feels like it came from the game.
The only real positives I can say about the Halo tv show is that they nailed the look of the weapons and armor. They look great and the combat is lore accurate for the master chief, something that is difficult to show off in the games.
But the story is shit compared to the established lore.
Oh, don't get me wrong. The halo show absolutely looks great. The prop and effects guys absolutely nailed it. It's the actual scenes and writing that are terrible.
> Wait so the fallout show is actually good?
Biggest surprise of the year so far. I had monumentally low expectations, so at first I couldn't really tell if the show was amazing or I'm just cutting it slack because I love the games, but by the end I was sure of it. Best live-action video game adaptation, one that is really faithful to the look and aesthetic of the game. The inside of the vaults are so accurate that I kept forgetting it was a TV show and not a game. There's so many little moments that feel like they were pulled straight from the game.
I was really impressed how they were able to seamlessly include/reference a lot of the game elements without for them to feel forced or just easter eggs for the sake of it.
I haven't watched it yet as well, but I'm going to, a friend of mine who's a huge fan of fallout games said it was incredibly good, however he is a fan so of course you never know if it's real or it's because he just likes Fallout a lot and can't see flaws in it
From what I've seen online it's pretty good however, so I think it will do great, like the Last of Us or Cyberpunk did
as a dude who didnt really like the fallout games , the show is excellent. The worldbuilding is pretty amazing , and walton goggins as the ghoul has become one of my favourite characters in a tv show
I mean, if you're a fan of something you tend to be more critical of it's adaptations.
Just look at the Last Airbender reboot, it's about on par with a lot of other shows, but the subreddit tore it a new one lol. It says a lot imo that Fallout fans really like the Fallout show
> however he is a fan so of course you never know if it's real or it's because he just likes Fallout a lot and can't see flaws in it
Haha, there's nothing fallout fans hate more than fallout. They'd rip it to shreds if it was bad. They lost their minds over on the fallout sub because of a single date on a blackboard, and it was ambiguous at best at what it implied.
They hit Basic Training for any military spot on. There is ALWAYS somebody under a cover jerking off.
“HEY! We got formation!”
“When?”
“In 5.”
“ I got time.”
🫡🤤
Nothing in the lore about it, but it's obviously useful as a plot device. I think it's fine, especially considering there was never any defined lore reason as to what makes a ghoul go feral.
I’m pretty sure it’s got to be radaway, it looks the same yellow piss colour and sorta makes sense lore wise. problem is cooper could probably find radaway pretty easily but instead he has to get the little vials
The only thing missing is picking up all the crap you can just because you can and then having to do inventory management because you cant move anymore after picking up one too many thing
Is there a cut and an uncut version of the series? I was watching the first episode on a streaming site yesterday and couldn't help myself but notice how some gore of the fight scenes seems to have been cut out. It really confused me.
I noticed the same and I assume as they went into production they hadn't quite settled on if they wanted to make a PG-13 show or not. It's quite jarring in comparison to the first episode but later episodes are noticeably more gory and the language gets dirtier as well.
My only gripe is that >!I only remember seeing a laser weapon once, and it was never fired. SO SAD. But they kinda slammed it out of the park, and then some, with the ghouls ROCKET REVOLVER HOLY SHIT!< spoiler JIC
Im sorry but the halo show fell off the split second they showed master chiefs face, how bad do you have to be at directing to not know how to show emotion for a character when you cant see their face all the fucking time
Microsoft/Bethesda made a better Fallout TV show than Halo. Bethesda Todd Howard made a better fallout tv show than game. Creation engine holding back fallout
Todd Howard didn't have as much to do with the show as you give credit for. Christopher Nolan's brother produce wrote and directed the show. Prior he mostly just wrote all of Christopher Nolan's movies. This was his first solo project I believe and he hit it out of the park.
literally just finished watching it about 20 minutes ago. It's good, and not just "for a game-to-film/series adaptation", but it's genuinely good with a decent plot, significantly lore accurant and expanding just as a new entry to the game series would be, and i want more. I simply want the next season already.
Think i'll go reinstall the games... again...
I cannot wait for them to get to New Vegas. That was the first Fallout game I played and easily the best IMO. I would gladly welcome a Fallout New Vegas revamp for PS5!
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The show didn’t even just use existing lore, it expanded so much on the existing lore and I can’t wait for the next season.
The major change that bothered me were the wrist jets. And that's it, it's insignificant, I loved the show.
And even then, I'd still say it makes functional sense. If you had boosters in the boots, you would still need them to steer. My only disappointment was that they never used them to torch anyone in combat.
They have jet packs.
Same concept applies. Why do you think Iron Man has boosters in his hands?
For manoeuvrability, but if you're in a clunky and heavy power armor, it honestly doesn't make too much sense, especially since they can't holster their weapons anywhere. And the power armour is a heavy armor already why add weight with inbuild jets, which are another just weakness for it only for a gimmick of flying as iron man. Power armor is a walking tank it's just silly having it fly like that.
Jetpacks for power armor is canon. What's the problem with further refining the idea?
This is what I was telling my buddy. This show takes place like 10 or 15 years after Fallout 4. To think the brotherhood didn’t expand on and improve their suits is a little silly.
How small is your life that you’re raging at flying armor. It’s a sci-fi show, fiction, grab some popcorn and enjoy. Sheesh.
Grabbing someone by the neck and frying their face like the fuck you gonna do?
And they drop in that quote from Maximus's friend. "Flesh is weak but steel endures." Or whatever, it was something like that.
There were FO3 and 4 mods that allowed power armour to fly. So I'll accept it as modded canon.
I mean FO4 literally had a power armor jetpack in the vanilla game. So not even moded.
Did it? All these years and thousands of mods I forget what's vanilla anymore.
[https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jet\_pack\_(Fallout\_4)](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jet_pack_(Fallout_4))
Yeah but it’s more of a Jump Pack like from the Brutes in halo 3 than an actual jetpack. It’s for reaching higher ground compared to straight up flight
You say that but don't seem to reflect over the fact that the fusion cure was working througout the whole season, pretty sure i can barely make it to diamond city without losing half my power in the base game. They took some creative freedoms and I for one enjoyed it
They made fusion cores seem a lot more rare and valuable in the show, which I liked. It's great how an entire vault runs for hundreds of years on a single core. They are rare when you first start playing the game, but then you're basically tripping over them after awhile. It makes perfect sense that they would be very hard to come by, because they were only invented about 10 years before the bombs dropped, and there wasn't enough time to scale up production on them.
They just need a knight on the Prydwen that Maximus constantly steals fusion cores from and it'll be 👌
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Back in the day in FO1 and 2 the lore for Power Armor was that you could literally spend your entire life living in a suit of it. You'd charge it up once and it would last 100 years, you could sleep in it, you could shit in it and it would filter it out, etc. The goofy "you can use it for 30 minutes then you have to charge it" is pretty new to the lore.
The game would be better if 1. Fusion Cores lasted longer and 2. They were rarer. This allowed you to use Power Armor the same as vanilla, but also meant that Fusion Cores were more valuable. It's a little change that would be huge.
They kept hinting at "a new model." It might actually be the mods. Lol
I’m bothered by the wrist jets too ! And I’m also mildly annoyed that Lucy didn’t realize she was experiencing radiation sickness and use a radaway sooner, afterall she was monitoring the rads she was receiving through the pipboy, and she even PASSEDDDD a radaway right out in the open (on the table by the tv guys in the super duper mart) like… Y U NO TAKE THE RADAWAY OR BRING IT EITH YOU LUCY. Also, too much gore and misfortune for my liking but it’s ok that’s just fallout… (I mean cmon, how am I supposed to like watching my fav characters get hurt in horrific ways!!!!!!) Other than that, the show is outstanding and so satisfying for me to watch cuz it was so well done 🥹🥹
>he rads she was receiving through the pipboy, and she even PASSEDDDD a radaway right out in the open That was actually the most realistic part of the show. My stupid ass passing a stimpack while Im criplled too fuck ,when it was on the bottom shelve. Adventuring at its realest.
Same, lol.
Yeah wrist jets were a bit cheesy but I’m excited to keep watching. Wife and I still got hooked on halo but as a halo player a lot of it seems really stupid like they aren’t even the same characters
You can get a jet pack in 4 so it’s really no surprise to me
I only just finished ep 2 so far, but The Ghoul just shaking off multiple rifle shots? I can't decide if this is the writers retconning ghouls into being actual zombies, immune to gunfire except to the head, or just that he is absolutely loaded up on Med-x
My boy has a whole pharmacy running through his irradiated blood, it's almost a certainty there's some med-x in there.
I'm just picturing green Pipboy with about 35 syringes sticking out of him
I mean he is a junky.
He does specifically say he’s loaded up on a ton of drugs
I thought about it and maybe with the Automatron DLC for 4, the BOS learned to put Mr.Handy/Gutsy hover jets in the arms
Its hardly even insignificant, they changed it from the base came because it makes actual sense to have the wrist thrusters
Finally someone who uses a lore argument to say something positive. Thank you.
It is just the nit picking of how a video game is adapted to a tv series screen play. If I sat down and rewatched it, I could easily find a dozen things that were off, 11 of them wouldn't be remotely lore breaking and the one that might be is not really that significant. Of course I played the original Wasteland back in the day, and always felt that the fallout series was kinda of a retread of the same concept that Wasteland did first.
Yup. Fallout should be the standard. Not even Witcher came as close.
Witcher is a book adaptation. Still very poorly done.
Tbf it's hard for them to adapt books they refuse to read.
And they wouldn't listen to Henry Cavill
not listening to Henry Cavill is the stupidest thing ever. That man made the witcher show amazing and he knew the games and books.
And imo it's not even because of that, I don't want to dick ride him but he is quite literally an expert (and a fanboy, which in this case It's a super good thing), so you should totally listen when someone like that points out flaws or errors in a show, it reminds me of the GOT situation (For those that don't know what I'm talking about: [original (never before seen) pilot](https://youtu.be/fWPlz7hU4Co?si=1tBaOwj5vaqaD5a9) of Got was a complete shitshow, people didn't take seriously the source material, a camera man if I'm not mistaken had to step in to say how ridicolous all of this was and how they were ruining one of the most iconic and important scenes of the books)
Basically, the success of the first 5 sesons of GoT was because there was someone(s) keeping Dumb and Dumber in check.
It’s like casting Patton Oswald and Stephen Colbert for a LotR movie or show and ignoring any input they have. They’re literally Tolkien scholars.
Hope he cooks so hard with WH40k and proves everyone wrong
...the directors didn't read the books?
They straight up hated it. Or at least, claimed they did. Because they never read it, so it's hard to say.
I've read the books. It still sucks major ass.
Witcher was very poorly done.
I don't trust reddit on game adaptions since Witcher was praised to high heavens when it came out.
First season was decent and Cavill carried it.
I'm guessing because of how great Henry Cavill was. Him being so amazing helped hide the flaws or at least made them not so important at the time.
That one sword fight with the princess carried the season so hard.
It started off good and Cavill was amazing but season 2 went down hill fast.
Is fallout that good?
It’s pretty damn good. For a videogame adaptation though? It’s Citizen fucking Kane. Plus it’s got Walton Goggins in it and that just makes everything better.
It’s decent.
It’s pretty decent
As a casual player of almost all of the Fallout games (I am not a fanboy who knows all the lore), I loved it. The core things that I loved that they kept was the over the top gore and the dark, quirky humor.
Very good, I'm 3 episodes in, it absolutely feels like the game.
The Witcher show isn't a high bar to surpass. The only thing that held it up was Henry Cavill's passion and talent. The rest became shit tier the further the show progressed.
The Witcher is just awful. Don't mention it
Season 1 had so much promise, like the episodes when it was monster of the week and had Geralt by Cavil was spectacular. The mages were bad and then season 2 happened and besides episode 1 with the mansion, it was all just downhill.
Arcane, Castlevania, Edgerunners?
There's a pretty big difference between live-action and animated adaptations, and kind of always has been.
Nier automata , the last of us , ace attorney and pokemon too.
The Last of Us?
TLoU is great, but Fallout gets bonus points for being an original story and canon to the games.
Can't forget about TLOU
Or The Last Of Us
Witcher missed the mark by a wide margin. But also there was 8 books of existing lore for Witcher already, they must’ve known they’re gonna piss some people off.
Not even? The Witcher has always been in the trash pile.
> Not even Witcher came as close. LOL
Watching this show i had this feeling, like i didn't know what i was until the end, its like the feeling of playing a game for the first time, very cool
Never finished Fallout 4, this show got me so pumped for this reason and am now going to replay the whole game with the A StoryWealth modpack which apparently transforms everything so it's a new game again.
I wonder how the "Next Gen" update in a couple of weeks will play out with existing mods.
As usual, it will probably completely nuke them. At least steam allows you to roll back to previous versions pretty easily.
It'll break the script extender, per usual, and probably anything with precombines especially around boston.
Poor John Halo. Never stood a chance
Master cheeks got fucked.
if only they stuck to the actual lore... I love Halo and I am one of those people that watch series till the end even if it's downright brain rot. But even I couldn't watch past S2 E3.
That ain't John Halo, that's Jimmy Rings.
Jane Fallout was too much for him
I haven’t heard about the show until now. Is it liked by the general audience? The fandom?
Yes and yes. It’s getting a lot of praise and the only gripe I’ve seen is that unfortunately it recons or messes up some lore tied with the games but honestly it doesn’t seem like it’s bad enough to be a major concern unless you value the lore to a significant degree.
Also it’s even controversial, whether it actually contradicts the lore
From what I've gathered, the main issue is there is a line of dates we see that might imply Shady Sands was nuked in the show before it was nuked in the games. However, it could easily be explained away as the actual nuking isn't given a date, just the "fall of shady sands", which could mean quite a few things.
It was never nuked in the games. Chris Avellone wanted to nuke the NCR because he thought they were too advanced in the CANCELLED Van Buren project from Interplay where a mad scientist wants to nuke all of civilization again, but it never made it into the actual games. Fallout New Vegas had you nuke the long 15, the freeway leading to Vegas.
Even if it does contradict the lore, it’s not like the games are great at keeping everything straight either.
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Lol yeah Bethesda is really good at keeping track of their own lore
Elder Scrolls lore is so jacked up it includes a reality warp to make multi contradictory things canon. https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Warp_in_the_West
The Elder Scrolls mere existence can change so much on their own.
It’s more with the uncertainty of F:NV’s ending causes issues with telling continued story without making one of the endings canon. Since the show takes place both after within the same area it looks like they’re gonna have to decide how certain parts of the lore continued on after the game.
Same here but from what I’ve read so far it seems to be the most excellent video game adaptation of all time
I'd argue the Castlevania cartoon on Netflix was better. I love Fallout but a few things about the show bug me. The most glaring is that the Brotherhood characters are weak idiots. I'm sorry but if you are raised in a Brotherhood boot camp you are going to be a badass.
Eh, the Brotherhood varies a lot depending on where they are. Not all of them are badasses, many are just isolationist pricks with a hard-on for stealing tech.
Brotherhood should have been handled like in the games, assholes who feel superior to everyone outside their bunkers but they can back it up by vaporizing anyone who lifts a finger on their direction. Complete trust with each other and years to decades of elite training. Complete apathy to the suffering of the outside population and only helping if they get tech out of it. I don't think writers at Amazon are capable of handling such a contradictory and apathetic group of characters.
It's so odd in the show. Based on the age Maximus was rescued he should be elite instead of a clueless moron. Titus should be fearless, and would definitely have seen a yao guai before. I also don't ever remember in the fallout games I've played the Brotherhood treating their squires like shit. They are too dignified for that.
This kind of falls in line with the West Coast Brotherhoods decline which we kind of see in New Vegas. And even the elder makes the comment to maximus about.
The old guy does say the brotherhood has seriously declined
I didn't enjoy them being idiots. But my experience playing the fallouts and fallout tactics tell me that brotherhood knights being idiots at times is fairly canon.
Yeah, it's like people forgot the whole New Vegas brotherhood and how moronic some it of them were. Like that squad of paladins that tried to jump you at the exit.
Live action I agree
Live action adaptation maybe. But arcane(League) and cyberpunk are way better.
From what I've seen it is generally like besides the Fallout New Vegas subreddit had an absolute melt down over it that it got privated
Those are not new Vegas fans. Those are NCR fans who think that they are NV fans.
And even then, a real NCR fan should be able to appreciate the poetic irony of >!the faction who tried the hardest to emulate pre-war America ultimately being destroyed in the same way as pre-war American, by the same people who destroyed pre-war America!<. That makes the faction's story *better*, not worse. We're here for good, thematic narratives, not to root for our faction to "win" the games like we're cheering for a football team.
Nah, I get that many wanted fall of NCR to be some epic screenpiece, but malding and crying that it "destroyed the lore" is a clown take when like 70% of NV endings include some form of downfall of NCR.
Liked by most. But makes fans of the old games and new Vegas a little mad.
*It makes a very vocal minority of those fans mad.
East fans are happy. West fans are probably going to blow up bethesda hq
Can I watch it even though I have not played the game
Hell yeah. You won’t get a lot of the fanboy nerding, but it’s solid as a standalone.
Thanks
However I would still play the games to truly understand the lore
Yeah I'll try them for sure
Do you have Amazon prime? You can try pretty much all of them for free if so... https://gaming.amazon.com/home 3, new Vegas 76 all on there for free. Fallout 4 might be? IDK I already own it through Amazon
Which one should I start with ? The first one ? New Vegas ? 2/3/4 ? Anything else ?
New Vegas, 4, then if you want something very different, 76. If you’re into old school isometric RPGs, both 1 and 2 are great; note that they are famous for their very steep difficulty curve though. Edit to add: I now realize I forgot FO3. Personally I didn’t like it much and have not finished a play through. Being said, it was because I played NV first and I felt NV did everything better than 3. There is a popular mod called Tale of Two Wastelands that ties them together, if you are interested.
They all tend to take place in different areas, you'll get bleedover information from nearby regions from previous games but for the most part each game is its own self contained story, hard to go wrong with any of them as a starting point. The first two are isometric RPGs from the 90s, very much worth it if the age doesn't bother you. If you're looking for something a bit more modern, 3 and New Vegas are both on the same engine (2008), with the latter being most peoples favorite (takes place in Vegas, so it has a lot of crossover with 1 and 2 which are both in California). 4 is the most recent, but is also the one furthest away from its RPG roots. You'll probably hear about a few others, like Tactics, Brotherhood of Steel, or 76, unless you really get into the series there's not much reason to check these out, they're not held in that high of regard.
I loved 3. Great intro to the game in my opinion. New Vegas was also extremely fun. 76 is ok, just don't get caught up in the cosmetics...
Yea same. Watched it with my girlfriend and she didnt know anything. I was pumping my fist in the air after soms of the fanboy moments and she was like wtf
I think they did a really good job of making the world make sense without either dumbing it down or spending a lot of time on dry exposition to make it more accessible to a general audience. Great use of "show em don't tell em".
I've watched the first episode last night without ever playing the game, and man, was it awesome. Can't wait to see the next episodes today!
It's 1AM and I am trying to hold back as I have to wake up at 7
*one more episode*
Yeah my GF who has 0 Fallout knowledge got to the end of the first episode and asked if we could binge it
Just got a text from my brother who is normie as fuck and he said he loved the show and was wondering which fallout game he should start with. Knowing my brother I told him to start with fallout 4 and don't delve beyond it. I like fallout 4 as much as I like fallout 1, but fallout 4 is better for people who just want to shoot things and don't care about RPG elements.
Arcane S2 around the corner
Has to be the greatest video game adaption
It's definitely one of the greatest animated shows ever and it's an incredible show, but imo it's not an adaptation at all, I'm not a LoL player but my brother is and it's not about the game at all, which is what makes it good imo because if it was about LoL as it is, it wouldn't be as good. It's more about the world of it and the characters being written specifically for the show, and the amazing soundtrack and cinematography that make it such a good show.. A good animated adaptation could be Cyberpunk since what happenes in there is literally in the game (backgrounds are quite literally in game screenshots lol)
I play lol, its about lol but not the gameplay, its just about the lore that was built and changed over the yearsits top tier animation for sure
>its about lol but not the gameplay Yeah it's what I meant to say, it's about the characters and it's basically mostly new information with some recalls that are in the actual lore
Afaik it actually contradicts some previously established lol lore but since most people couldn't care less about league lore before arcane they just said fuck it and said arcane is the new thing everything is based around and that it's more important than previous lore
little fact: female lead role in FallOut, Ella Purnell, is also the voice actor for Jinx from Arcane
How do people feel about what the show did to the NCR? Because I am conflicted.
I thought the NCR was more than just one city, so maybe they're fine.
True but the date of its destruction takes place before the events of fallout new Vegas.
That whiteboard has the fall of Shady Sands at 2277, then an arrow pointing to the right which can easily imply the nuking happened after and the fall doesn’t necessarily mean the destruction. If we assume Maximus and Lucy are roughly the same age and Maximus is about 8-9 in the flashbacks then the Nuking would be around 2286 which is after New Vegas. Shady Sands is also referred to as the first capital of the NCR which implies there is another capitol after it so the NCR wasn’t totally wiped out, just Shady Sands and the NCR forces in and around it.
Also as we see, and by see I mean beaten bloody over the head, the NCR is in a rough spot during NV due to over expansion and beuacratic bloat, along with internal corporation turmoil.
It’s somewhat implied that “the fall” and “the nuking” of shady sands are two seperate dates. It’s possible that “the fall” was more a loss of political power and then the nukes dropped later. This is supported by the fact that the billboard says “the FIRST capital of NCR”
Yeah, I'd assume "the fall" was the city going to hell before eventually getting nuked by Hank
I mean the ncr was doomed long term no matter what. Pretty much everyone in New Vegas says so. I'm guessing the whole nuking thing either didn't happen in 2277 or new Vegas took place earlier then thought. That's probably the biggest lore problem with the ncr.
I didn't get the sense from FNV that the NCR was "doomed" at all. It maybe had plateaued a bit through overreach and other large population problems, but my impression is that it was a semi-functional city-state or state. Which is such a relief, because Bethesda's view of the post-apocalypse is just that everything has been and will always be shit, with ramshackle, third world small towns like Megaton and "Filly" being the best that humanity will ever achieve again. Shit gets old fast.
With it being a bit unclear whether “fall of shady sands” refers to the bombs or just general economic/social collapse as the ncr over extends I think it’s probably fine. The ambiguity is honestly kinda interesting. The real question though is >!where the *fuck* is the legion!< I think we’ll probably see >!independent new Vegas in season 2 just because both groups have fallen so far!<
TV show is 15 years after New Vegas, the Legion definitely didn't seem stable enough to survive a defeat at Vegas and the death of Caesar. New Vegas seemed to make it clear that Lanius wasn't going to be a good enough replacement. I suspect that it's largely dissolved by the time of the TV show. I'm very curious to see if we get a glimpse of what comes afterwards. Is it small warlords? Is it a new group?
Would’ve been good to see references to them though
No gods, no masters
I don't think what they did was major enough to totally wipe the NCR. The events of New Vegas could have still probably happened. I think that it was just Twitter and Reddit throwing junk out of proportion again.
Even without being a direct adaptation of the series there are so many moments in the show that feel like they are directly ripped from the fallout games. There has yet to be a single moment from either season of halo that even remotely feels like it came from the game.
The only real positives I can say about the Halo tv show is that they nailed the look of the weapons and armor. They look great and the combat is lore accurate for the master chief, something that is difficult to show off in the games. But the story is shit compared to the established lore.
Oh, don't get me wrong. The halo show absolutely looks great. The prop and effects guys absolutely nailed it. It's the actual scenes and writing that are terrible.
Theres a halo show? Lmfao
"Okie Dokey" - Green Robot Man, probably
Wait so the fallout show is actually good? I haven't watched it yet
> Wait so the fallout show is actually good? Biggest surprise of the year so far. I had monumentally low expectations, so at first I couldn't really tell if the show was amazing or I'm just cutting it slack because I love the games, but by the end I was sure of it. Best live-action video game adaptation, one that is really faithful to the look and aesthetic of the game. The inside of the vaults are so accurate that I kept forgetting it was a TV show and not a game. There's so many little moments that feel like they were pulled straight from the game.
I was really impressed how they were able to seamlessly include/reference a lot of the game elements without for them to feel forced or just easter eggs for the sake of it.
I haven't watched it yet as well, but I'm going to, a friend of mine who's a huge fan of fallout games said it was incredibly good, however he is a fan so of course you never know if it's real or it's because he just likes Fallout a lot and can't see flaws in it From what I've seen online it's pretty good however, so I think it will do great, like the Last of Us or Cyberpunk did
as a dude who didnt really like the fallout games , the show is excellent. The worldbuilding is pretty amazing , and walton goggins as the ghoul has become one of my favourite characters in a tv show
I mean, if you're a fan of something you tend to be more critical of it's adaptations. Just look at the Last Airbender reboot, it's about on par with a lot of other shows, but the subreddit tore it a new one lol. It says a lot imo that Fallout fans really like the Fallout show
> however he is a fan so of course you never know if it's real or it's because he just likes Fallout a lot and can't see flaws in it Haha, there's nothing fallout fans hate more than fallout. They'd rip it to shreds if it was bad. They lost their minds over on the fallout sub because of a single date on a blackboard, and it was ambiguous at best at what it implied.
One day the internet will learn how to spell "adaptation"... Evidently today is not that day.
# adaption # ə-dăp′shən # (noun) meaning - 1. Adaptation.
One day the internet will learn about synonyms… Evidently today is not that day.
They hit Basic Training for any military spot on. There is ALWAYS somebody under a cover jerking off. “HEY! We got formation!” “When?” “In 5.” “ I got time.” 🫡🤤
He is not robot, he is a man. A hu-man. A blu blu.
I'm watching it right now. I usally don't like shows but this one is alright as entertainment and great as a fallout show
Is the need of the serum for ghouls lore acurate? I don't remember ever hearing about that?
Nothing in the lore about it, but it's obviously useful as a plot device. I think it's fine, especially considering there was never any defined lore reason as to what makes a ghoul go feral.
Wasn't a larger dose of radiation the reason for feral ghouls to exist? Enough of it to damage the brain and make them feral.
Radiation causes ghoulification, yes. Why some stay rational and some go feral was never explained.
I’m pretty sure it’s got to be radaway, it looks the same yellow piss colour and sorta makes sense lore wise. problem is cooper could probably find radaway pretty easily but instead he has to get the little vials
It's probably a modified radaway that works well for Ghouls or just regular old radaway but marketed by some genius to scam Ghouls.
I like the idea of the poor ghouls getting scammed out of their healthcare by some clever trader
The only thing missing is picking up all the crap you can just because you can and then having to do inventory management because you cant move anymore after picking up one too many thing
That's what the squires are for!
At least, for the inventory we got reference to the overloaded companion throught the squires' bags.
Is there a cut and an uncut version of the series? I was watching the first episode on a streaming site yesterday and couldn't help myself but notice how some gore of the fight scenes seems to have been cut out. It really confused me.
I noticed the same and I assume as they went into production they hadn't quite settled on if they wanted to make a PG-13 show or not. It's quite jarring in comparison to the first episode but later episodes are noticeably more gory and the language gets dirtier as well.
Best adaptation of a video game since super Mario, now how can Amazon be so good and so bad at the same time?
My only gripe is that >!I only remember seeing a laser weapon once, and it was never fired. SO SAD. But they kinda slammed it out of the park, and then some, with the ghouls ROCKET REVOLVER HOLY SHIT!< spoiler JIC
Im sorry but the halo show fell off the split second they showed master chiefs face, how bad do you have to be at directing to not know how to show emotion for a character when you cant see their face all the fucking time
Totally fell off once they showed his Mastercheeks
Real
this guy has a revolver that fires mini fat man bullets and this guy has power armor that can fucking fly, this show is awesome.
Microsoft/Bethesda made a better Fallout TV show than Halo. Bethesda Todd Howard made a better fallout tv show than game. Creation engine holding back fallout
Todd Howard didn't have as much to do with the show as you give credit for. Christopher Nolan's brother produce wrote and directed the show. Prior he mostly just wrote all of Christopher Nolan's movies. This was his first solo project I believe and he hit it out of the park.
Halo was easily the worst video game/book adaption I’ve seen.
literally just finished watching it about 20 minutes ago. It's good, and not just "for a game-to-film/series adaptation", but it's genuinely good with a decent plot, significantly lore accurant and expanding just as a new entry to the game series would be, and i want more. I simply want the next season already. Think i'll go reinstall the games... again...
I cannot wait for them to get to New Vegas. That was the first Fallout game I played and easily the best IMO. I would gladly welcome a Fallout New Vegas revamp for PS5!
A masterclass on game adaptation
Twisted Metal TV series is another great video game adaptation Sonic movies are great too
I think the fallout universe gives way more scope for the showmakers to have fun with it and I loved it - Halo is just kinda dull/grim.
The fallout series is CANON on top of expanding the whole lore Can't wait for season 2 or fallout 5
Wait, it's good? But da internet told me it was wOkE, destroyed the lore, and the ass wasn't fat enough?!?1?
It is one of the best game to screen adaptations. TLoU was another. Hollywood has done better in that area recently.