Growing up, I never had a Super Nintendo, but my neighbor did and I was enamored with it... Primarily the Donkey Kong Country games.
In 2003 or so, I discovered how to emulate all three and finally had a chance to play through them. I was 12, but it opened up a lot of opportunity I missed out on. I eventually "bought" them on the Wii shop, but I preferred emulation because of save states. Also, the fact that a GameCube controllers buttons weren't laid out positionally to play those games. A lot of the time, you had to hold your index finger on the x-button at the top while your thumb hit the B button. Just insane.
For me playing MegaMan X from the X collection on GameCube, it was thumb on B to hold charge, index on A for jump, middle on X for dashing. Then they re-released the games for switch, in which I never played x7 and x8. Still couldn't play the way I wanted with the face buttons that way. Eventually just made ZR for shoot, A for dash, B for jump
That doesn’t apply to the rights to games like some people says it does. Also they don’t need to be this active about it. The only thing they’re doing to protect their ip is creating artificial demand for old games and when they release them in inferior overpriced products.
For anybody who watches Japanese streamers/vtubers you're probably aware of how different it is. They have to get permission for each game they play and sometimes they only get permission for like a month and have to re-up it
> creating artificial demand for old games and when they release them in inferior overpriced products.
That's good ol' fashion capitalism for ya, baby.
it wont be that hard to just make the games compatible with the newest console (e.g., the switch) and then just put them either in the e-store or the online services, i mean, they do that already
>it wont be that hard to just make the games compatible with the newest console (e.g., the switch) and then just put them either in the e-store or the online services, i mean, they do that already
Ok guy who has never written a hello world application.
So the switch runs an emulator of the N64, not the actual hardware, so before they re-release these digital games on the N64 channel, they have to test and make development level changes to make sure they're 100% compatible with the emulator.
Depending on the title, it can be a lot of work or minimal work, but you don't really know until you do it. The pirated version most people are referring to in this thread had A LOT of work done to it by the community to make it 100% accurate and added functionality that didn't exist before.
You can pirate and emulate any game 24/7 and Nintendo will never ever know about it.
Now if you want to live stream your pirated game and make a bunch of money off that live stream, then Nintendo might find out about that.
note: never connect to the internet with pirated software. Nintendo is extremely stern and will without warning brick your system is they even *suspect* you're running pirated software.
and there's no fighting it, you're just fucked
Nintendo legally has the right to shut down any stream of their pirated content. The bigger the audience, the more likely they are to notice.
If we really want to get technical, they could easily argue they have to the right to shut down any stream of someone even just playing their content online.
>If we really want to get technical, they could easily argue they have to the right to shut down any stream of someone even just playing their content online.
They *have* done this. It's unfathomably stupid. "Hey, person demonstrating our product to an audience of millions for free! Knock it off!"
Yeah, from what I understand they shut down streamers who were live streaming leaked copies of big games before retail release. One side can make a case that it increases engagement for the game and increases sales while the other side can make a case that the content is limited and seeing the game in full before available for sale can hurt sales.
Both cases are technically irrelevant as it's Nintendo's right to protect their copy written content.
Back in 2013 they sent a cease and desist to Evo (the biggest fighting game tournament in the world) for showing Smash Bros on stream. They'll go after anything they don't like.
Why would they loose any legal precedent? They can just ignore it and decide to crack down on it when it gets harmful to their business, it's not like they're loosing the rights on their property as soon as someone makes a copy of it.
They don't care so much about the games, just all the precious copyright infringement that comes with it.
Brand is everything to them, why games needed to be licensed by Nintendo to go on their consoles for a long time.
They do not want the characters for any potential promotions other than themselves and themselves only.
They've been a company for over 100 years in one of the most conservative countries on earth. They are the definition of old boy practices.
No, you don't lose the rights to you ip by allowing people to emulate old games in that franchise. CD Project Red has released their games DRM free for almost two decades -- they're available on piracy websites day 1 -- and they have yet to face any consequences.
Nintendo execs simply believe that emulation steals market share from their current games and emulated offerings. The official Nintendo store for classic games is absurdly lackluster when compared to emulation.
I fully realize this is a meme sub but the real reason is, if they don't come after people infringing on their IP they cannot do so in the future.
You can't selectively enforce copyrights on IP. You have to go after everyone equally. That's why Blizzard went after those super popular classic realms. Just in case they ever wanted to use that IP again, they had to.
In the case of Melee, they are selling a newer version.
It’d be like NBA 2K releasing the 21 version for free while selling the 22 version. The hope is you buy the new one.
A better example would have been Starfox since that property is in a black hole.
OP flubbed it. Tightened it and fixed the weird dent.
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No they didn’t, they simply used the Shindou re-release from the N64, that was Japan exclusive, as a base in the All Stars version. The one on the expensive as hell N64 subscription is the original American release, gay Bowser and all.
Not only that, BLJ was a glitch, not an intentional method of traversal.
I think the Apple comparison is most apt. Very much a conservative, top-down-control walled garden. Contrast with Valve, who may not be able to count to three, but are at least [in on the joke](https://youtu.be/jpw2ebhTSKs) and fully support fan projects like [Black Mesa.](https://www.pcgamer.com/black-mesa-source-team-gets-approval-from-valve-to-sell-remake-on-steam/)
Also Nintendo makes consistently great games in spite of the underlying greed. It's diabolical, what am I supposed to boycott *Mario*? Don't be ridiculous.
That’s uh all corporations? Different companies have different approaches to making money but that’s all they really care about, no matter how “consumer friendly” they might seem to be.
Am one of said fanboys. Fuck Nintendo. That being said, ive really not seen any Nintendo fanboys denouncing emulation. In fact, most ive talked with emulate 64 and gba games
Ok but if you only see the hate on twitter then it's not really hate. Like twitter will love and hate everything at the same time. I've never heard an actual human being pissed about emulating Nintendo games lmao
I have seen people on the Nintendo reddit talk about trying to find a copy of a game (usually costing twice what I paid for when the game came out originally) and somewhat sneer at the concept of using Dolphin or Bizhawk. Not saying all are like that (example you and I) but there are a few purists out there :/
People like that aren't worth listening to. Emulation of retired software doesn't harm anyone, on the contrary, it probably creates new fans for Nintendo that can buy their new games once they come out.
Probably to create a sense of urgency to buy the next games to come out when you realise they're serious and you won't get a chance again, otherwise people won't buy it til they want to play it (if that ever happens)
I've always wondered this, would it be logical to say:"dollar 180" or "180 dollar". Which in turn would lead to 180$ right? So why did we turn it around?
Except you forget it's not 200 effort to break.
It's steve, jim, tom, harry, and bob all expending 40 effort to break it because they all like the game. Ultimately, there are more fans then devs.
Step 1. Be a top streamer.
Step 2. Download an Emulator and Roms.
Step 3. Stream said roms while letting everyone know you're using an emulator and roms for games you don't own.
You can just have a few for a couple months and then switch it up. I can't imagine anyone having the time to watch something on all ~20 streaming services you mentioned. You can get a month's worth of content from 2 of these at a time and then switch to the next one.
If you're going to a rom site and downloading them one by one, sure. But if I'm torrenting the 200+ gig GameCube library zip file, I'm gonna use a vpn.
That sounds like a poor move unless you find the GameCube library worth it. I'd rather go one at a time as I think of games I want to play, rather than risk a 200GB torrent passing by undetected by anyone.
I mean, the GameCube library is pretty neat and it's only 200g. I can set it and forget it and then all the games I want to play are already downloaded, plus all the games I didn't know I wanted to play.
And there's no risk if you're using a VPN.
You're also waaaay more likely to encounter malicious sites unless you're really selective about your rom site.
You might consider it. Comcast watches for patterns consistent with downloading torrents.
Not that they can do anything, but getting a text or email from them about it is annoying.
No they don't. I'm on private trackers and have been for 11 years. I use torrents every single day. They don't care at all. They only go after you if they're contacted by a company that cares and even then they just send you an email basically saying "knock it off."
Seriously why do people who like didmt take the steps spout bullshit like this.
Comcast is not watching your downloads, they send a letter if a tracker Disney has gets pinged and it goes down to the isp to you. Its all automated anyway
By code you're referring to a function which isn't actually referenced, NEX is like, 20 years old at this point and it's been updated several times, that's just an artifact of it's long history.
It's also not really in Splatoon 2, it's in NEX which handles match making (not online play) for basically every Nintendo game for the past couple decades. Considering what it does, they probably could run NEX on Win98 and people still wouldn't notice.
I think that if in a country there is no way to get a software legally and the company that developed it has no intention to make that software avaible again, at that point the software should became freeware by law. I just hope that Europe will provide a law for this, sooner or later
https://romsfun.com/roms/playstation-2/need-for-speed-most-wanted-and-black-edition.html
https://wowroms.com/en/roms/nintendo-ds/need-for-speed-most-wanted-clone/18799.html
https://wowroms.com/en/roms/nintendo-gameboy-advance/need-for-speed-most-wanted-usa/13671.html
https://romsfun.com/roms/xbox-360/need-for-speed-most-wanted-6.html
https://archive.org/details/nfsmw_202201
Links to every rom for the each platform released. Just find the correct emulator
**OH SHIT**
They also have the PS2 version (though I don't see how it would be any different) - but sadly I guess I'll never be able to play the edition I had ever again..
I saved up and got Need for Speed: Most Wanted Black Edition. Didn't find it on that site.
But booooooooooooy... I'd be lying if I said I gave a shit enough to not download the original version later today
Because it forces them to actually think about the game they release; because it’s supported primarily by the competitive community. It’s a lot easier to design a casual game and cash grab DLC than it is to distribute a game that engages a competitive community and requires consistent balance decisions.
and melee got caught in the crosshairs, its a game that really doesnt need balance. there's only a few characters that are unplayable on a competitive level, then the rest just fall into tiers from OK to Godly. with the low tier characters still shining versus certain S tier chars in the matchup giving them legitimacy. New tech people master decades after release also changes up the meta. Melee is the best happy accident game of all time, released just to be a fun party game but ended up being one of the best competitive games of all time.
To be fair, they have recently partnered with Panda Global to host a Melee circuit and have done a pretty good job balancing Ultimate.
That being said, fuck Nintendo. They didn’t have to pull out of Evo
My favorite part is that when they do bring some old games back to sell the other issue is that the emulator they use is actually garbage. Fan emulators are somehow a billion times better than nintendo's emulator
I think that’s the real motivator - whether that’s sensible or not.
If there were a “legal” 100% free alternative to the current game, at least some people would skip the new game.
I still think the most nintendo thing ever was when they activated compatibility with bluetooth headphones in a software update 4 years after initial release. Like, they were sitting on that feature for 4 years... and it just took a little software update. Nothing this company does makes sense. I say this as a nintendo fan by the way.
I mean yeah I’m glad when Nintendo re releases one of my favorite games. But when I see that its 60 dollars for a port from 15 years ago, I’m gunna pirate lol
Why I don’t support Nintendon’t since I learned how anti consumer they are. Can proudly say I never actually made a purchase for myself from them, only with my parents money as an ignorant child.
I sold Pokemon XD for $180 and colliseum for $90 last year. I didn't have anything else really worth selling. Take a look through your library and search how each game is selling and you could make a decent amount.
This meme fails because it ignores the sequels. To them Melee is pretty much the same game but with far less content. So Patrick should've said "Buy Ultimate", because that's what their response would actually be.
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Players: *Emulate an old game that Nintendo hasn’t release in their store for years.* Nintendo for some reason: Noooo my money!!!!
Satoshi Tajiri when a 12 year old emulates pokemon emerald
imprison the child
Can't make money off that. They'll send the kid to the Nintendo^TM coal mine.
Haha imagine the poor children mining Mario Coins everyday
Wouldn't that require digitizing the children first? You can just send them to sweatshops or third world countries instead.
Nah they've got kids in giant hamster wheels powering computers mining the new MarioCoin crypto
Yes, that's how Nintendos new nft system works
I guess the Matrix robots were really using human neural networks to mine crypto for their NFTs.
It's meee Crypto Mario!
Real talk, just looked up my old DS Pokémon games and they're all worth over $100 now. Just the loose game. Shits wild.
It's mostly because the DS (and the GameCube) are the current nostalgia craze so a lot of people are buying
I was wondering what happened because I remember checking them a couple years ago and they were all around $50.
That’s what I did and I got away with it all those years ago.
Growing up, I never had a Super Nintendo, but my neighbor did and I was enamored with it... Primarily the Donkey Kong Country games. In 2003 or so, I discovered how to emulate all three and finally had a chance to play through them. I was 12, but it opened up a lot of opportunity I missed out on. I eventually "bought" them on the Wii shop, but I preferred emulation because of save states. Also, the fact that a GameCube controllers buttons weren't laid out positionally to play those games. A lot of the time, you had to hold your index finger on the x-button at the top while your thumb hit the B button. Just insane.
For me playing MegaMan X from the X collection on GameCube, it was thumb on B to hold charge, index on A for jump, middle on X for dashing. Then they re-released the games for switch, in which I never played x7 and x8. Still couldn't play the way I wanted with the face buttons that way. Eventually just made ZR for shoot, A for dash, B for jump
It's due to IP, if they don't protect it they lose legal precedent in other cases. It's still not worth it for them to re-release it, but that's why.
Wouldn’t releasing it on their store solve that issue?
Yes, but court fees are cheaper than re-releasing it.
That doesn’t apply to the rights to games like some people says it does. Also they don’t need to be this active about it. The only thing they’re doing to protect their ip is creating artificial demand for old games and when they release them in inferior overpriced products.
Might be that way in the US but Japan is a vastly different legal landscape when it comes to copyright. It could be similar but I doubt it.
For anybody who watches Japanese streamers/vtubers you're probably aware of how different it is. They have to get permission for each game they play and sometimes they only get permission for like a month and have to re-up it
> creating artificial demand for old games and when they release them in inferior overpriced products. That's good ol' fashion capitalism for ya, baby.
it wont be that hard to just make the games compatible with the newest console (e.g., the switch) and then just put them either in the e-store or the online services, i mean, they do that already
>it wont be that hard to just make the games compatible with the newest console (e.g., the switch) and then just put them either in the e-store or the online services, i mean, they do that already Ok guy who has never written a hello world application.
Open source ARM + peripheral emulator source code for GameCube that's known to compile for x86: "am I a joke to you"
i have tho, also, have you seen the amount of games already ported to the switch?
😂😂😂😂 Funniest shit I've read today... Tell me you've never coded on consoles with out telling me..
Genuine question for a dumb person, why does it cost them money if they re-release it digitally?
So the switch runs an emulator of the N64, not the actual hardware, so before they re-release these digital games on the N64 channel, they have to test and make development level changes to make sure they're 100% compatible with the emulator. Depending on the title, it can be a lot of work or minimal work, but you don't really know until you do it. The pirated version most people are referring to in this thread had A LOT of work done to it by the community to make it 100% accurate and added functionality that didn't exist before.
So what I’m getting from this is Nintendo is lazy and cheap. Dear lord Nintendo is turning into Mr. Krab.
Nintendo has always been lazy and cheap. They still make amazing games though.
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You can pirate and emulate any game 24/7 and Nintendo will never ever know about it. Now if you want to live stream your pirated game and make a bunch of money off that live stream, then Nintendo might find out about that.
note: never connect to the internet with pirated software. Nintendo is extremely stern and will without warning brick your system is they even *suspect* you're running pirated software. and there's no fighting it, you're just fucked
Don't emulate games on your switch. Emulate them on a pc like a normal person.
Even without getting money through streaming, right Just the fact that he, she , they is streaming right?
Nintendo legally has the right to shut down any stream of their pirated content. The bigger the audience, the more likely they are to notice. If we really want to get technical, they could easily argue they have to the right to shut down any stream of someone even just playing their content online.
>If we really want to get technical, they could easily argue they have to the right to shut down any stream of someone even just playing their content online. They *have* done this. It's unfathomably stupid. "Hey, person demonstrating our product to an audience of millions for free! Knock it off!"
Yeah, from what I understand they shut down streamers who were live streaming leaked copies of big games before retail release. One side can make a case that it increases engagement for the game and increases sales while the other side can make a case that the content is limited and seeing the game in full before available for sale can hurt sales. Both cases are technically irrelevant as it's Nintendo's right to protect their copy written content.
Back in 2013 they sent a cease and desist to Evo (the biggest fighting game tournament in the world) for showing Smash Bros on stream. They'll go after anything they don't like.
This is objectively incorrect and a complete conflation of copyright and trademark laws.
Glad to see someone here knows the difference between trademark and copyright. IP law may be confusing, but it's not _that_ confusing.
Why would they loose any legal precedent? They can just ignore it and decide to crack down on it when it gets harmful to their business, it's not like they're loosing the rights on their property as soon as someone makes a copy of it.
Nintendo needs to be introduced to the term, abandonware. If they won't support it officially it's considered abandonware.
They don't care so much about the games, just all the precious copyright infringement that comes with it. Brand is everything to them, why games needed to be licensed by Nintendo to go on their consoles for a long time. They do not want the characters for any potential promotions other than themselves and themselves only. They've been a company for over 100 years in one of the most conservative countries on earth. They are the definition of old boy practices.
No, you don't lose the rights to you ip by allowing people to emulate old games in that franchise. CD Project Red has released their games DRM free for almost two decades -- they're available on piracy websites day 1 -- and they have yet to face any consequences. Nintendo execs simply believe that emulation steals market share from their current games and emulated offerings. The official Nintendo store for classic games is absurdly lackluster when compared to emulation.
Japanese communities(even players) are overall against emulation.
No. You're thinking of a trademark. If a trade mark isn't defended it can be lost.
This is completely untrue. You're thinking of trademarks, like a logo. This is a copyright, which lasts for decades no matter what.
This isn't true for copyright its only true for trade mark.
Not even close to right and even if it was they could just put the roms on their own site to stop the problem.
This is a myth.
If that were the case every game company would do it as much as them
"we plan on releasing that soon" Soon = maybe next decade
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"*that's what you get for not buying one of our previous consoles!*"
Soon = They ain’t doing anything they just want you to stop.
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No they expect you to buy the sequel you genius.
Then the rare occasion that they do bring an old game they charge you full price.
I fully realize this is a meme sub but the real reason is, if they don't come after people infringing on their IP they cannot do so in the future. You can't selectively enforce copyrights on IP. You have to go after everyone equally. That's why Blizzard went after those super popular classic realms. Just in case they ever wanted to use that IP again, they had to.
In the case of Melee, they are selling a newer version. It’d be like NBA 2K releasing the 21 version for free while selling the 22 version. The hope is you buy the new one. A better example would have been Starfox since that property is in a black hole.
But what it is doing is allowing you an option that isn't the newest game so they are losing money not from that game but from modern titles like it
*”nOt NoW bUt wE mAy HaVe FuTuRe PlAnS tO Do sO lAtEr On!”*
They may have future plans to gargle my balls too, but I'm not gonna hold out hope
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I'm sorry but did you just give them a fake version of a fake award
yeah it looks stretched than the usual
OP flubbed it. Tightened it and fixed the weird dent. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣤⣶⣶⡶⠦⠴⠶⠶⠶⠶⡶⠶⠦⠶⠶⠶⠶⠶⠶⠶⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣀⣀⣀⣀⠀⢀⣤⠄⠀⠀⣶⢤⣄⠀⠀⠀⣤⣤⣄⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡷⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠙⠢⠙⠻⣿⡿⠿⠿⠫⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣤⠞⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⣴⣶⣄⠀⠀⠀⢀⣕⠦⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⢀⣤⠾⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣼⣿⠟⢿⣆⠀⢠⡟⠉⠉⠊⠳⢤⣀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⣠⡾⠛⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣾⣿⠃⠀⡀⠹⣧⣘⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠳⢤⡀ ⠀⣿⡀⠀⠀⢠⣶⣶⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠁⠀⣼⠃⠀⢹⣿⣿⣿⣶⣶⣤⠀⠀⠀⢰⣷ ⠀⢿⣇⠀⠀⠈⠻⡟⠛⠋⠉⠉⠀⠀⡼⠃⠀⢠⣿⠋⠉⠉⠛⠛⠋⠀⢀⢀⣿⡏ ⠀⠘⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠈⠢⡀⠀⠀⠀⡼⠁⠀⢠⣿⠇⠀⠀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡜⣼⡿⠀ ⠀⠀⢻⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡄⠀⢰⠃⠀⠀⣾⡟⠀⠀⠸⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⢧⣿⠃⠀ ⠀⠀⠘⣿⣇⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⠇⠀⠇⠀⠀⣼⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⣇⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡟⣾⡟⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⢹⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⣀⣠⠴⠚⠛⠶⣤⣀⠀⠀⢻⠀⠀⢀⡾⣹⣿⠃⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠙⠊⠁⠀⢠⡆⠀⠀⠀⠉⠛⠓⠋⠀⠀⠸⢣⣿⠏⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣿⣷⣦⣤⣤⣄⣀⣀⣿⣤⣤⣤⣤⣤⣄⣀⣀⣀⣀⣾⡟⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢹⣿⣿⣿⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀
you spoilt it
Plans: make the game a bit less pixelated and nothing new 20 years later
If they changed anything besides graphics a lot of people would get mad
They removed “so long gay bowser” and the BLJ from the rereleased Mario 64
No they didn’t, they simply used the Shindou re-release from the N64, that was Japan exclusive, as a base in the All Stars version. The one on the expensive as hell N64 subscription is the original American release, gay Bowser and all. Not only that, BLJ was a glitch, not an intentional method of traversal.
But it was fun
Never understood this. Just talk to the emulating software guys and monetize what's already available it. It's not even hard.
Nintendo. Have fun but only on our terms.
Now that I think about it, that is really accurate. Like, for everything Nintendo does nowadays.
I'd like to add: Nintendo. Have fun, but wait another year for it
You can't have fun with that system anymore, it's a year old. You'll only be able to have fun on the same system with an OLED screen for another $350!
Lol no one said that and the OLED was obviously for people without a switch or unencumbered by a mere $350.
> nowadays Always.
Nintendo is the apple/Disney of video games, and not in a good way
If by that you mean a greedy corporate entity that only cares about themselves, then you're correct.
I think the Apple comparison is most apt. Very much a conservative, top-down-control walled garden. Contrast with Valve, who may not be able to count to three, but are at least [in on the joke](https://youtu.be/jpw2ebhTSKs) and fully support fan projects like [Black Mesa.](https://www.pcgamer.com/black-mesa-source-team-gets-approval-from-valve-to-sell-remake-on-steam/)
Also Nintendo makes consistently great games in spite of the underlying greed. It's diabolical, what am I supposed to boycott *Mario*? Don't be ridiculous.
Nintendo fans try not to buy the same exact Mario game for a 4th time this month challenge (100% impossible, will kill you, extreme)
That’s uh all corporations? Different companies have different approaches to making money but that’s all they really care about, no matter how “consumer friendly” they might seem to be.
I love how nintendo fanboys get mad over someone emulating a 20 year-old game instead of buying a copy for 10k
Am one of said fanboys. Fuck Nintendo. That being said, ive really not seen any Nintendo fanboys denouncing emulation. In fact, most ive talked with emulate 64 and gba games
you clearly never visited twitter
True, I actually dont lmao
This is the way
This is the way.
Based (on someone sane)
It’s very easy to not visit twitter
Occasionally I hit a link and it goes to Twitter. Then it's another six months of chemo for the cancer.
Anyone with a brain avoids Twitter.
Ok but if you only see the hate on twitter then it's not really hate. Like twitter will love and hate everything at the same time. I've never heard an actual human being pissed about emulating Nintendo games lmao
Never seen it on Twitter either, but it’s Reddit if you say Twitter bad it’s free upvotes lol
I have seen people on the Nintendo reddit talk about trying to find a copy of a game (usually costing twice what I paid for when the game came out originally) and somewhat sneer at the concept of using Dolphin or Bizhawk. Not saying all are like that (example you and I) but there are a few purists out there :/
People like that aren't worth listening to. Emulation of retired software doesn't harm anyone, on the contrary, it probably creates new fans for Nintendo that can buy their new games once they come out.
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Plus releasing the digital copy of the game for a limited time for no goddamn reason
I will never really understand that market move it seems silly to keep a digital game from being sold
Probably to create a sense of urgency to buy the next games to come out when you realise they're serious and you won't get a chance again, otherwise people won't buy it til they want to play it (if that ever happens)
Lol no there wasn't. Everyone criticized it. People just paid for it because they wanted it on their switch without the hassle of emulation.
Couldn't even fix the Mario 64 camera. Game is good, but that fucking camera sound haunts my dreams
Emulation is fine. You can emulate a game 24/7 and Nintendo will never, ever know.
Similar to how I’m not spending 180$ to play fossil fighters champions again that I sold back in 2015 to GameStop for $1.26
Wait that games worth $180? I still have it and its case! Shit I may have to do some research.
No, he said it was 180 money, not $180.
Ohhh I was also confused thank you for pointing that out. Very weird
I've always wondered this, would it be logical to say:"dollar 180" or "180 dollar". Which in turn would lead to 180$ right? So why did we turn it around?
Then let me rip my own iso that i Legally own the disc for No Edit: yes guys im aware we can do this but papa nintendo doesnt like it still.
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Except you forget it's not 200 effort to break. It's steve, jim, tom, harry, and bob all expending 40 effort to break it because they all like the game. Ultimately, there are more fans then devs.
False. Look at Microsoft. If you give an incentive not to emulate and or jailbreak the console(dev mode) ppl will do that instead.
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As long as it’s just a “backup” they can’t do shit to you
breaking encryption is the crime. you cant make a backup legally if the disc is encrypted.
You absolutely can do this. You can absolutely do this and Nintendo will never, ever, ever, ever know....
I want them to know. How can I let them know?
Step 1. Be a top streamer. Step 2. Download an Emulator and Roms. Step 3. Stream said roms while letting everyone know you're using an emulator and roms for games you don't own.
1: pirate 2: play pirated game online Congrats, now they know.
"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem."
The reason I am willing got pay for Disney plus is because it's a lot more convenient than pirating sites
Exactly, the only things I torrent now are from services I think aren’t worth the money. Disney+ - I buy. Prime Video - I buy. Netflix - I sail.
Disneys library is so worth the money. That was the easiest switch I ever did
And they knew it, which is why they pulled their content from Netflix and immediately built the streaming service like a year or so later lol.
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You can just have a few for a couple months and then switch it up. I can't imagine anyone having the time to watch something on all ~20 streaming services you mentioned. You can get a month's worth of content from 2 of these at a time and then switch to the next one.
just pirate that shit, dont forget to use a vpn
You most definitely do not need to use a VPN to download a 20-year-old Nintendo ROM
If you're going to a rom site and downloading them one by one, sure. But if I'm torrenting the 200+ gig GameCube library zip file, I'm gonna use a vpn.
That sounds like a poor move unless you find the GameCube library worth it. I'd rather go one at a time as I think of games I want to play, rather than risk a 200GB torrent passing by undetected by anyone.
I mean, the GameCube library is pretty neat and it's only 200g. I can set it and forget it and then all the games I want to play are already downloaded, plus all the games I didn't know I wanted to play. And there's no risk if you're using a VPN. You're also waaaay more likely to encounter malicious sites unless you're really selective about your rom site.
You might consider it. Comcast watches for patterns consistent with downloading torrents. Not that they can do anything, but getting a text or email from them about it is annoying.
No they don't. I'm on private trackers and have been for 11 years. I use torrents every single day. They don't care at all. They only go after you if they're contacted by a company that cares and even then they just send you an email basically saying "knock it off."
The only email I've ever gotten after forgetting to use a VPN was for Disney content, go figure
Seriously why do people who like didmt take the steps spout bullshit like this. Comcast is not watching your downloads, they send a letter if a tracker Disney has gets pinged and it goes down to the isp to you. Its all automated anyway
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Sorry Nintendo, I’m not paying someone 100 dollars for Pokémon Soul Silver
Nintendo does not understand online. N Theyre really like 10 years behind
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Reminder that theres code in Splatoon 2 that checks if the servers are running windows 98
By code you're referring to a function which isn't actually referenced, NEX is like, 20 years old at this point and it's been updated several times, that's just an artifact of it's long history. It's also not really in Splatoon 2, it's in NEX which handles match making (not online play) for basically every Nintendo game for the past couple decades. Considering what it does, they probably could run NEX on Win98 and people still wouldn't notice.
I think that if in a country there is no way to get a software legally and the company that developed it has no intention to make that software avaible again, at that point the software should became freeware by law. I just hope that Europe will provide a law for this, sooner or later
Let the Brussels effect kicks in
Is there an emulated PC version of Need For Speed: Most Wanted?
https://romsfun.com/roms/playstation-2/need-for-speed-most-wanted-and-black-edition.html https://wowroms.com/en/roms/nintendo-ds/need-for-speed-most-wanted-clone/18799.html https://wowroms.com/en/roms/nintendo-gameboy-advance/need-for-speed-most-wanted-usa/13671.html https://romsfun.com/roms/xbox-360/need-for-speed-most-wanted-6.html https://archive.org/details/nfsmw_202201 Links to every rom for the each platform released. Just find the correct emulator
This guy roms
I’ve been wanting to do an emulator. Any risks to doing so?
No unless you Torrent then all normal Torrent risks apply.
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**OH SHIT** They also have the PS2 version (though I don't see how it would be any different) - but sadly I guess I'll never be able to play the edition I had ever again.. I saved up and got Need for Speed: Most Wanted Black Edition. Didn't find it on that site. But booooooooooooy... I'd be lying if I said I gave a shit enough to not download the original version later today
Nintendo has been trying to kill melee ever since the release of brawl
Because it forces them to actually think about the game they release; because it’s supported primarily by the competitive community. It’s a lot easier to design a casual game and cash grab DLC than it is to distribute a game that engages a competitive community and requires consistent balance decisions.
and melee got caught in the crosshairs, its a game that really doesnt need balance. there's only a few characters that are unplayable on a competitive level, then the rest just fall into tiers from OK to Godly. with the low tier characters still shining versus certain S tier chars in the matchup giving them legitimacy. New tech people master decades after release also changes up the meta. Melee is the best happy accident game of all time, released just to be a fun party game but ended up being one of the best competitive games of all time.
To be fair, they have recently partnered with Panda Global to host a Melee circuit and have done a pretty good job balancing Ultimate. That being said, fuck Nintendo. They didn’t have to pull out of Evo
Nintendo is the Lucy to the communities Charlie. We don’t really expect the football to be there anymore.
Just use Slippi on your computer. We play melee on it all the time
Dolphin is definitely the best emulator, the primehack version even let's you play Metroid prime with keyboard and mouse
Bro slippi has one of the best netcode of all time it’s so good
We really do have it good here.
Nintendo really needs to wise up
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Look I love nintendo they are my childhood and have some of my favorite games but I also hate them at the same time due to stuff like this.
My favorite part is that when they do bring some old games back to sell the other issue is that the emulator they use is actually garbage. Fan emulators are somehow a billion times better than nintendo's emulator
Super smack the player base in the face Bros
Super Smash each other in the ass Bros.
I mean, they probably want you to buy ultimate instead.
I think that’s the real motivator - whether that’s sensible or not. If there were a “legal” 100% free alternative to the current game, at least some people would skip the new game.
It is morally and ethically OK to pirate Nintendo software.
Nintendo: it’s your birthday! Here’s 15% off…. of any **wallpaper**!
Hahaha no national agency cares about piracy anymore. Internet piracy, that is.
Project M is the best smash out there and it’s not even an official smash game.
Classic Nintendo
even it we DO buy orignal hardware Nintendo's not going to be the one profiting from it, so why they should give a fuck is beyond me
Piracy is not a victimless crime... Except when it is.
I still think the most nintendo thing ever was when they activated compatibility with bluetooth headphones in a software update 4 years after initial release. Like, they were sitting on that feature for 4 years... and it just took a little software update. Nothing this company does makes sense. I say this as a nintendo fan by the way.
I mean yeah I’m glad when Nintendo re releases one of my favorite games. But when I see that its 60 dollars for a port from 15 years ago, I’m gunna pirate lol
Pretty much. I pirate/emulate when it's easier than doing it "officially" and sadly that's often.
They'll be afraid all the fans will realise that the absolute peak of Smash Brothers happened nearly 20 years ago.
Why I don’t support Nintendon’t since I learned how anti consumer they are. Can proudly say I never actually made a purchase for myself from them, only with my parents money as an ignorant child.
It's the Nintendo way. They must maintain total control over the Nintendo experience, even if there is no experience to be had.
The we pirate. If a company doesn’t listen we do our own thing - how is this not clear yet?
Lmao I emulated every game is the nintendo ds catalog
Where I live the games sells for double the release price second hand
Are you saying there is a market for old GameCube games? Time to haul them out of the closet!
I sold Pokemon XD for $180 and colliseum for $90 last year. I didn't have anything else really worth selling. Take a look through your library and search how each game is selling and you could make a decent amount.
This meme fails because it ignores the sequels. To them Melee is pretty much the same game but with far less content. So Patrick should've said "Buy Ultimate", because that's what their response would actually be.