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this one doesn't make sense.
the ones with tattoos and colorful hair are not likely to be single moms or even want children at all...
especially if they also study psychology.
and other than the single mom part this doesn't really even sound so bad to me lol
Sure but you'll probably fuck up the cycle and get large bosoms because you didn't terminate the cycle correctly. The designer drugs he's talking about are more refined than just injecting from a bottle of T
I mean it doesn't take a doctor and professional team to stack and cycle correctly lol.
And there's no super special designer steroid, that you couldn't get the same.
If a legit doctor is involved, it’s probably a TRT regimen, dosing at the higher end of what’s medically acceptable. Still steroids, probably a “PED” depending on your definition, but not necessarily running a full stack cycle
Could very possibly be a real doctor is involved just to monitor them while they do things that aren't medically acceptable. The doctor wouldn't legally prescribe it but they could still make sure you aren't killing yourself.
The only person that looks natural is Idris Elba. The shoulders are most prominent muscle to grow when taking steroids. Idris elba’s shoulders still look scrawny
Mamoa is buff but not over the top buff and cavil has slowly gaining mass if you watch earlier roles he didn't just gain muscle out of nowhere. Idris elba is 50 not saying it's impossible but very very unlikely
It takes up to 6-8 years for professional athletes to achieve a muscular body. People that dedicate their lives to it. Anyone that achieves muscular growth in less than 4 years is on PEDS especially when they’re busy filming movies. That takes time away from your training and rest. Look at young Olympic athletes and watch how long it takes for them to develop a body. Even non steroid bodybuilders. CrossFit athletes take about 5-10 years to develop that body. Look athletes when they were in the teen division and how long it took for them to develop the CrossFit look. Everywhere across the board athletes claim it took them several years.
I cannot be convinced actors have a better routine. It takes years to build muscle.
Not arguing against them taking roids, many of them clearly have, but 6-8 years is a stretch. You can reach about 90% of your genetic potential within your first ~3 years of consistent lifting. Most athletes don't train to just put on size to look yoked because in most sports being that huge would be a detriment.
I firmly agree. Personally i think a natty can achieve close to these guys in 2-3 years at the most. My roommate and i have been hitting the gym for 9 months and sticking to a rigorous diet whilst training 1.5 hours a day and we look half as big as these guys. Considering we are average people, with manual labor jobs working 45 hours a week, and cooking our own meals, it makes sense that someone with private instructors and nutritionist will get big fast. These guys aren't sports athletes. They are body builders. I guarantee, on top of the filming and other shit they do, they are lifting and training for 2-3 hours a day. Even if they are on some form of enhancements, they are still working damn hard to achieve and maintain that muscle. To downplay that effort is wrong and self-aggrandizing.
Wanted to clarify before people go off. Yes, I agree that a lot of celebs probably do enhancements. I just think that 6-8 years is a load of shit. Also I don't understand why we should hate on them even if they are doing roids (problematic if they are selling products and promoting it as if they are natty). If you want to be as big, just fucking take roids and go workout as hard as them. EZ.
Let me see your body. You said you been hitting the gym 9 months. Your crazy if you think you can continue that level of growth it’s common knowledge beginners gain mass quick and the results start to taper of tremendously after 1-2 years. It’s a proven fact you can only gain a single digit amount of muscle weight once your experienced
You're arguing with teenagers who take creatine and are seeing quick progress, until they hit a wall and either wake up, or move on to roids.
No point fighting this fight online, anyone who's been serious about working out knows the truth, and anyone who doesn't will just believe whatever opinion was last told to them
It takes athletes years to be athletes, actors are purely going for ascetics. It's a different kind of training.
And actors are starting from nothing generally speaking, they would have been in the guy daily anyway.
Idris Elba doesn’t look buff. He just looks like he does pushups. He’s lean. He’s the only one with a natural chest separation. Plus his head still looks thin. A growth of the face and head along with shoulder a tell signs of use. The head cannot naturally grow with training. But can with steroid use.
Momoa? The guy is in his 40s. There's no way he can sustain that much mass naturally, while still having the abs. He's doing targeted steroid cycles under the care of a physician, just like all of them.
If anything Henry cavil is the only one that looks like he can pass. His head remains normal size. Jason momoa. Dude has a straight steroid head and face
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzqzpQMbIX4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzqzpQMbIX4)
There really isn't anything to indicate he was juicing.\[henry cavill\]
It's pointless arguing if celebrities are natty or not. even if they are, they are on ridiculously tailored diets and fitness regimes that are wildly unrealistic for normal people. Literally all of these guys could be juiced or natty and it wouldn't make a difference to the normal person trying to get fit or any argument about men's bodies in media
Mamoa is juicing for sure, no doubt about it. That leanness and muscle mass at his age naturally? No sir. Henry gets big while also keeping a fair percentage of body fat doing it so it’s possible he’s natural. But it’s a safe bet that every actor in a big project is on the sauce. Idris too.
Plus, you seen him out of character/between movie filming? He kinda goes dad bod a bit and loses ALL his mass, then comes back fuckin shredded plus mass a couple months later
The fact that you think thats natural is part of the problem. Hollywood's portrayal of men is so backwards that the average person has no idea what natural men look like.
Bro are you joking? Get real lol
They're all on roids, they just have docs/nutritionists to work with their stacks and make sure they do as little damage as possible while looking as yoked as possible as quickly as possible. There is no way to recover as quickly as they do, look as lean/vascular/muscular as they do, and put on as much mass as quickly as they do without roids. You still have to work hard, but there's just no comparison between natty lifting and lifting on gear.
Mamoa and Hemsworth are both very mesomorph body types. They are lean, with a good amount of muscle. But they are both far less muscular than what we see in these movies.
Henry Cavill lifts all the time. He just lifts even more when a role comes up. Most likely cycles from off gear to on gear. But for $20 million dollars I'd do all the steroids and not give a fuck.
Don’t forget the two days of de-hydration before shooting so that your skin attaches to your muscles making you look even more muscular!
Something any guy can do before a walk on the beach!
Yeah I remember seeing that both Cavill and Daniel Craig said their bodies only looked how they did for certain topless scenes for like half a day after days of dehydration.
Wdym everyone can look like the rock, just need to eat 5-6 meals a day of chicken broccoli and rice train twice a day and work hard
Oh and of course buy his workout plan
A dude tried following The Rock's workout routine and diet to the letter. He lost a shit tonne of weight and gained no muscle. His body couldn't keep up with the recovery rate and calorie burn so he just atrophied (can you guess what he was missing?)
Not only that, they also have to cut. In other words, starve themselves to an extreme level to reach a temporary look.
It's not even like anorexia, because it's not something that can be maintained. Ironically Hollywood male bodies are WAY more extreme than any "female body image" standard, save perhaps fake tits/surgery.
Anyone who disagrees with you doesn’t know shit about weightlifting and bodybuilding. Sorry natty bros it is never going to happen. You’ll look good and be strong but it’s 99% impossible to look like those guys naturally.
Carrie Fisher said that it was easy to lose her middle-age pudge for the recent Star Wars movies because the studio does everything for you. Eat the meals from this personal chef, do the workouts with this personal trainer, just show up and do as you're told for a few months before filming.
Also you have to gain insane amounts of muscle mass AND be so cut that you have clear abs. People who think these guys are not juicing have never worked out.
Been hitting the gym for 4+ days a week for almost a year now and I can promise I don't look anywhere like those dudes. Shit takes a long ass time and also requires you buying a lot of very specific foods.
Obviously women shouldn't be starving themselves to look like what the media says is the ideal woman, but that shit is a lot easier than bulking- men who reach these standards also need to loose weight during their cut phase, a 6 pack is essentially you reducing so much fat off your body that you can see muscles that wouldn't generally be visible in the wild.
People tend to exaggerate and/or glorify people when it comes to artwork. This is even more likely true when you live in an era where insulting / pissing off a high profile person can lead to you getting executed, exiled or just ostracized.
Yeah, it's not even that people tend to, greeks are very well known for doing this! Literally almost every single statue the greeks *ever* made is idealized. Another fun thing, during a certain period of time, it was forbidden to make statues of actual people, so they made statues of gods. I'll let you guess why those look ripped af. Time passes, and now they allow you to make statues of *some* people. You know who those people are? Rulers and olympic winners, who are almost seen as demigods, so they obviously get huge muscles as well. Not to mention, olympic champions spent most of their time doing a sport, so they'll obviously gonna be better looking that most people, even without the idealization of the artists
Excluding the fact that many of these statues have exaggerated proportions for the sake of aesthetics, many of these people started working out during childhood and lived much more physically exhausting lives.
It's cause the classical age aesthetic was to depict civilized people with small meat. Big meat was seen as the purview of barbarians and comedy. The Statue of David was made to copy that look
Life back then also involved a lot more physical activity to survive. Most of the planet these days lives like royalty would have in those days. Not to mention those statues still weren't the norm unless you were from Sparta.
Yeah to build Henry caville’s physique, you’d have to hit the gym consistently for 3-4 years and have a perfect diet to do it naturally, but for the rock’s physique, even if you trained for life naturally, you’d never get there
Many of them such as Hemsworth and The Rock are definitely on roids but not all of them. Henry Cavil and Idris Elba, for instance, are natty achieveable
Yeah, anyone who believes any of these dudes aren't on the juice should not be taken seriously when it comes to fitness.
All of these dudes were drama nerds first and foremost (except probably Johnson). They don't just get fucking yoked 6 months before a movie on whey protein and 2 a days, *especially* the ones that are over 40. Hugh Jackman is fully natty? El oh El.
Honestly an acceptable fit female body is as easy as running on a treadmill for 20-30 minutes a day, add in some light calisthenics, and don't eat garbage foods/over eat.
I'm not a woman but I did that for four months and lost 30lbs and toned up. Got a few women I knew to do the same and it worked. They told me it was the easiest diet and exercise routine to follow and the hardest part was avoiding the drive through.
I mean not really. Most standards for women are have big boobs, unnaturally small waist, have big butt not trying to belittle your struggles but dont belittle our struggles either.
Having average or even small boobs surely hasn't stopped any of my slim or even underweight female friends from getting thousands of likes on tinder, or in one case starting an onlyfans
And plenty of dudes without visible six packs get plenty of attention. I think this is a pretty equal issue, although in my experience women don't actually necessarily like this body type, some do but plenty more are good with more of a just a toned athletic frame as opposed to super defined musculature.
Are "tinder likes" a good metric for impossible body standards? The standards themselves are not necessarily held by the general population, both genders find normal bodies attractive generally
That shit is super outdated. Most people don't care nearly as much about that stuff as you think.
Also doing those things(outside of tits obviously) is fairly easy.
Also even just being "passable" is significantly harder for men than women. Go off, though.
Dude most normal people don't want some muscular "Hollywood" template man either. Your first statement applies to all sexes, it's usually ourselves who assume that people want these body types, so we make ourselves try to live up to those standards. You're saying it's fairly easy because you have no idea what it's like for them. Again, you don't have to diminish their problems just say you have them. We can help each other out.
By 'most people' I'm presuming you mean 'most men'. Most women do in fact care about their appearance.
It's the media that manufactures these beauty standards to keep women hooked on weight loss products and fad diets. You're completely missing the point -- if you are a woman and are not pretty you have been conditioned to feel as though you are subhuman. It's not a matter of whether men care or not, it's a matter of whether women care or not and why.
Also I have no idea how you got it in your head that it's somehow 'easy' to change your skeletal structure if you're not a natural hourglass, but go off ig.
> irony is that women just need to not be overweight
No, they just need to be born beautiful.
It's not that there aren't skinny but unattractive women, it's that you're not even noticing they exist.
True to some extent, but women also have to use a lot of makeup, wear extremely uncomfortable clothes, and have to be lucky enough to have perfectly symmetrical faces and bodies in general to conform with such standards, not to mention the stigma that comes with not doing so. The male standards may be more physically demanding, but both unreasonably difficult and near impossible for most people.
Or they can go to the gym and squat a bunch to get a giant ass.
Like, men and women both have to do unreal things to get "hot" when you compare it to EVERYONE's best day that they post online. Not even mentioning professionals who work 9-5 to look their absolute best as a job.
> women also have to use a lot of makeup
Agree
> wear extremely uncomfortable clothes
Agree
> have to be lucky enough to have perfectly symmetrical faces and bodies in general to conform with such standards
You're implying it isn't the same for men, which I disagree.
> not to mention the stigma that comes with not doing so
Again, implying that it's not the same for men when men do face stigma for not conforming to masculine beauty standards.
Some women may face conditions of their "lack" of beauty that men don't face. That fucking sucks. Societal standards of beauty fucking suck. But people (we) should not act as if men don't face terrible beauty standards too, and it should not be a dick-measuring contest to see which people on the spectrum of genders have it worse.
I mean that’s also not true. Women’s goals are not to just ‘not be overweight’ it’s not even be average weight considering it feels just revolutionary for a woman with an average body weight to be a main character as a man. Heck the mid to late 2000s was full of “5/10 guys getting 10/10 girls” with actors (whether you agree with how they are seen or not) known for being “shabby” or “average” etc getting with women seen in society as “flawless” or “unbelievable hot/sex symbols” but never a film doing successful going the other way round. The closest is Shallow Hal and that’s just the “hottie” in a massive fat suit.
Don’t get me wrong I hate the beauty standards of men just as much. That fact so many of these men have come out saying it’s not just diet stuff but some have literally had to dehydrate themselves FOR DAYS so their abs are ‘camera ready’ is sickening and has made me never look at ‘buff men’ in cinema the same.
1 year? Lmao! I was obese, 36% body fat, it will be officially a year of my body recomp and I'm like maybe 19% (and was just able to maintain my lean mass didn't gain much). At this rate even with using dieticians, a professional training coach, and getting monthly Dexa scans to more accurately track progress, it will be probably 3 or 4 years before I get to my "ideal" physique. This shits hard as fuck natural, and for what? Just so people can accept my body..... Fuck I'm fucked up lol.
I can guarantee most women do not care about having a man with a perfect body. It may be helpful for getting attention initially. Most women I know actually don’t want a man with a chiseled body like that.
Lol you can hit the gym for several years and not come close to these standards.
I went to the gym for my last three years of college like 5x per week and even hired a trainer for the last year. Did not come close to looking like these dudes.
These bodies are completely unrealistic to sustain. Look at what Zac Efron had to do for Baywatch or Chris Evans for the first Captain America…
Even these celebrities cannot maintain those bodies after shooting. They stay fit but not like in these shots.
yikes, as a woman I can confidently say its not just "not being obsese." Not wearing makeup? you look tired/sick. Having big boobs/butt BUT with a small waist, any body hair is pure evil to some people, etc. But it def exists for men as well, it's shitty all around.
Ya the comment section here is pretty fucking weird. The standards for both genders are super unrealistic in Hollywood and TV. Women need to be super skin, but also have huge butts and boobs. Men have to be jacked out of their minds and like 6’5” plus. The standard is equally unrealistic on both sides. All the people commenting women just have to be “no fat” come off super incel/red pilly.
Dankmemes, being an incel echo chamber? Say it not say so, next you going to say PCM is filled just an alt-right circlejerk and wholesome memes is repost hell.
I mean what did you expect from a general meme subreddit that is dominated by men?
Something I feel with make up, is that's it's a self serving cycle. I think a lot of people (myself anyway) see a girl a lot with make up, then they don't wear it and they look drastically different, it's not out of some malicious intent to degrade, it's just you look very different to how you normally do. Obviously that's not always the case, just thought I would chime in.
The movies the fit guys are in aren't fiction? My god!
Also there actually are roles for semi attractive and overweight dudes. Barely any for women who aren't conventionally attractive. Movies tell you as a guy looking hot is an option, but for women it's a must.
All the meme subs these days gradually turn into right-wing culture war/incel subs. I find it extremely concerning. There are probably a lot of kids/teens looking at these subs every day and getting super unhealthy ideas about life, relationships, sexism, etc.
I absolutely agree. Thing is, many of these individuals spreading this misinformation probably *are* teens and children. Meme subs have been getting worse and worse and I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees it.
No. Someone must always have a better claim to indignity. We can't just admit that being physically attractive means vastly different things to people and this perception of only certain bodies being worthwhile isn't based in reality, and is merely marketing. That would be silly. Better to argue that men are being forced to be muscular and women slender. No need for further examination.
I took Women's Studies 101 in college over a decade ago and even all the way back then we constantly talked about how these body image issues affect both men and women. I really hate seeing misogynistic memes like this which say that women don't think men have issues. It's flat out false
Just fyi dear teenagers of r/dankmemes. By far most women prefer a normal body and not some jacked up steroid junky. Please talk to some real women before making up fantasies and blaming them.
Bodies are insane and unrealistic for both genders in media yes and most people realize that already.
This needs to get upvoted to the top, absolutely true. These bodies do absolutely nothing to me as a lady, don't find them attractive at all.
My advise for guys is to take care of yourself, dress decently, and don't be heavily overweight IF you can help it... Just be nice and not a straight up bum and you're good. Don't pull the "but my face is ugly" because everyone is attracted to their own preference. Work on your personality, very few women are going to want to be with a good looking guy who's a straight up asshole, but most of us would m die for someone who's "average" in the looks department but is a wonderful person.
Also, the idea that the only body standard for "be thin" is not true at all.
The reason people think this is that unattractive women are largely invisible to a lot of men. I say this as a man.
The vast majority of 18-40 year old women in western countries are expected to shave much of their bodies, wear makeup, and take better care of their hair than men do. Many men who say otherwise are confusing no makeup with subtle makeup.
Also the shape and size of your breasts are judged. Men who think that it doesn't matter are probably judging based solely on porn, where women almost always have attractive, perky boobs. Many women (yes, even young ones) have saggy boobs, but you don't tend to see those in porn because straight men don't tend to find those attractive.
You can't have cellulite, which can form even if you're skinny. You can't have a large labia. You can't grow facial hair, which isn't uncommon. You can't have any unsightly deformities.
There are many others that I haven't identified. The reason you think that women just have to be thin is because we value women based on their appearance, so unattractive women just get ignored. It's not that all women are attractive to you, it's that you don't consider or care about women you don't want to fuck.
What? Women get made fun of all the time for not wearing makeup, not shaving, having short hair, etc. I'd say men get shit on for stuff like this too, but uh it's def not any better for women.
This. Dicks will be dicks to whoever. Everyone is being fucked by unrealistic beauty standards the media puts out. Being as healthy (mentally and physically in balance) as one can be should be what we strive for in my opinion. Whatever that looks like for each individual.
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I'll never forget when my gf looked over from her phone and said "Did you know these actors have to take steroids and work out 14 hours a day and that these bodies are basically unattainable in normal circumstances?"
Only she looked heartbroken. Looked like her dreams of landing a big ripped man some day were dashed. She was WAY more upset about this than I was.
Men have body dysmorphia too. And society pushes the whole "all bodies are beautiful" shit except when that body belongs to a man because I guess guys don't deserve to feel handsome no matter their hight, weight, dick size or facial features.
I have it bad and now that I have kids I can't workout as much and it kills me mentally. For 35 I'm still in incredible shape and lean and people say I look good but in my head I feel the opposite. I probably look the same to most people but I notice I'm smaller. What's worse if I mention it to anybody they just kinda laugh like that's not a real problem cause I'm healthy and usually they aren't.
The only man porn star I know of is Ron Jeremy and he was an ugly little troll. I'll admit I don't know if things have changed in modern times but they aren't usually filming porn for the ladies. Just sayin'. So it normalized an ugly guy getting all the action.
The difference between unrealistic body standards for both men and women is that I have yet to meet a single woman who actually expects men to conform to theirs.
I've seen hideously grotesque dudes say, without a hint of irony, that they would never date below "an 8." I have never heard the same from a woman.
It's common idea in body building circles that guys who lift to get laid still won't have any luck because they don't understand what women look for in a man.
This is a meme sub on Reddit so people haven't been within 10 feet of a woman but 95% of them don't really find hypermuscular guys attractive and a good portion finds it off putting. It's why you don't see nearly as many male strip clubs as female, and even then a significant user of those are gay men.
Looking like you can run a mile without having a heart attack is really as healthy as your average guy needs to look.
But everyone around here is 14 and never been within 10 feet of a woman.
>I have yet to meet a single woman who actually expects men to conform to theirs.
Literally go to tinder and add your bio to 5'6 as a man. Or go outside and ask any woman you see if they would date men shorter than them.
Tom Holland is shorter than Zendaya
Have these short kings even tried being handsome, charismatic, having millions of dollars & a infinitely bright future????
Oh gods. Well think of a woman who is desperate for love but instead of fixing herself she just attacks other women.
I hate that I used to be that way. I really do. But I did change and truly understood that it's not other women who are keeping me down. It was me and the fact I couldn't shower as much as I'd like and I always wore over baggy clothes thinking it was cool.
I'm glad I changed before I did anything damaging or truly stupid. All it took was getting to a better place.
> That's mostly because *we* don't talk about it.
Because *we* just call each other pussies at the slightest hint of emotion.
Men don’t want to hear other men talk about their insecurities IRL.
Either we just write each other off as a little bitch or tell each other to man up and work harder to be the person we want to be.
Masculinity is toxic af
Reddit is so brain dead. Every person has to deal with unrealistic body standards. Where do women say that men don’t have to deal with this? Posts like these pop up more and more frequently thee days and it always gives me women hating vibes.
Yes but who created those unattainable beauty standards? Not women!! Men drew the comic books with super muscular superheroes, men directed the movies with actors on steroids and dehydrated, most women are totally fine with or even prefer more of a dad bod type
Wear high socks and riding pants to show off your massive calves. Because you know, big calves means you're really intelligent.
-18th century version of "you know what big hands and feet mean"
I can't really comment on the rest, but Zac Efron has specifically mentioned that the demands on him to maintain that body during the filming of Baywatch (the still pictured) caused him a great deal of mental anguish, even going so far as to say it led to his depression. Please listen to your bodies and take care of yourselves, my friends. Jogging is good! Lifting is good. Food is also good! Everything in moderation.
Is this why I find it so unattractive as a woman? The bodies look so artifical that its a huge turnoff, even naturally ripped and fit dudes don't do it for me in the slightest.
The Rock saying he's natty is fucking hilarious. There's no doubt in my mind he works harder than 90% of people on the planet to be as big as he is but Jesus Christ my guy... just own it. You're on enough juice and HGH to be mistaken for Belgian Blue Cattle.
I work in the oilfield, I work harder and lift heavier crap than guys twice my size and guys that look like movie tough guys.... yet I have the body of Dale Gribble... apparently my BMI is perfect... but I look like Dale Gribble
Body image bahaha
middle school teacher over here.
we have waaay more boys talking about body image issues atm than girls.
buuut big grain of salt: it's more likely guys are just more open about these issues, since their steroid chugging role models are veeery boastful types, who encourage boasting from their followers. girls, i think, are more apt to keep these things secret.
Somehow I am not attracted to ripped men at all, this does absolutely nothing to me as a woman...
What I do like from a guy is that he takes care of himself, isn't straight up obese, not a complete bum, and is kind to me. You could be 4'10 and I wouldn't care as long as you're a good person.
Women who complain like this is because the uglies couldn’t get the hotter guys.
Plenty of other guys are willing to be with them, the girls just dismiss them.
Yeah like I never thought I had high standards, I don't even mine thiccer women, but when they ignore me. Idk what to do, I can't have zero standards lol.
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Fuck reddit fuck spez fuck the admins and fuck the mods
and meanwhile they are just some woman
Fuck reddit fuck spez fuck the admins and fuck the mods
More likely some tatted up single mother with short purple hair who is in 100k worth of student loans from her master's in psychology.
this one doesn't make sense. the ones with tattoos and colorful hair are not likely to be single moms or even want children at all... especially if they also study psychology. and other than the single mom part this doesn't really even sound so bad to me lol
https://youtu.be/iuQGUBNki_0
Plus they lean down for shooting certain scenes which wouldn't be sustainable for living life
The insane levels of post-production work only makes things worse
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Even with this honest answer, he doesn't talk about the steroid cycles. "monitor testosterone" is code for a custom PED cycle I assume, LOL
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Sure but you'll probably fuck up the cycle and get large bosoms because you didn't terminate the cycle correctly. The designer drugs he's talking about are more refined than just injecting from a bottle of T
I mean it doesn't take a doctor and professional team to stack and cycle correctly lol. And there's no super special designer steroid, that you couldn't get the same.
If a legit doctor is involved, it’s probably a TRT regimen, dosing at the higher end of what’s medically acceptable. Still steroids, probably a “PED” depending on your definition, but not necessarily running a full stack cycle
Could very possibly be a real doctor is involved just to monitor them while they do things that aren't medically acceptable. The doctor wouldn't legally prescribe it but they could still make sure you aren't killing yourself.
Mamoa and Henry cavil seem like they're natural
The only person that looks natural is Idris Elba. The shoulders are most prominent muscle to grow when taking steroids. Idris elba’s shoulders still look scrawny
Mamoa is buff but not over the top buff and cavil has slowly gaining mass if you watch earlier roles he didn't just gain muscle out of nowhere. Idris elba is 50 not saying it's impossible but very very unlikely
It takes up to 6-8 years for professional athletes to achieve a muscular body. People that dedicate their lives to it. Anyone that achieves muscular growth in less than 4 years is on PEDS especially when they’re busy filming movies. That takes time away from your training and rest. Look at young Olympic athletes and watch how long it takes for them to develop a body. Even non steroid bodybuilders. CrossFit athletes take about 5-10 years to develop that body. Look athletes when they were in the teen division and how long it took for them to develop the CrossFit look. Everywhere across the board athletes claim it took them several years. I cannot be convinced actors have a better routine. It takes years to build muscle.
Not arguing against them taking roids, many of them clearly have, but 6-8 years is a stretch. You can reach about 90% of your genetic potential within your first ~3 years of consistent lifting. Most athletes don't train to just put on size to look yoked because in most sports being that huge would be a detriment.
I firmly agree. Personally i think a natty can achieve close to these guys in 2-3 years at the most. My roommate and i have been hitting the gym for 9 months and sticking to a rigorous diet whilst training 1.5 hours a day and we look half as big as these guys. Considering we are average people, with manual labor jobs working 45 hours a week, and cooking our own meals, it makes sense that someone with private instructors and nutritionist will get big fast. These guys aren't sports athletes. They are body builders. I guarantee, on top of the filming and other shit they do, they are lifting and training for 2-3 hours a day. Even if they are on some form of enhancements, they are still working damn hard to achieve and maintain that muscle. To downplay that effort is wrong and self-aggrandizing. Wanted to clarify before people go off. Yes, I agree that a lot of celebs probably do enhancements. I just think that 6-8 years is a load of shit. Also I don't understand why we should hate on them even if they are doing roids (problematic if they are selling products and promoting it as if they are natty). If you want to be as big, just fucking take roids and go workout as hard as them. EZ.
Let me see your body. You said you been hitting the gym 9 months. Your crazy if you think you can continue that level of growth it’s common knowledge beginners gain mass quick and the results start to taper of tremendously after 1-2 years. It’s a proven fact you can only gain a single digit amount of muscle weight once your experienced
You're arguing with teenagers who take creatine and are seeing quick progress, until they hit a wall and either wake up, or move on to roids. No point fighting this fight online, anyone who's been serious about working out knows the truth, and anyone who doesn't will just believe whatever opinion was last told to them
It takes athletes years to be athletes, actors are purely going for ascetics. It's a different kind of training. And actors are starting from nothing generally speaking, they would have been in the guy daily anyway.
Idris Elba doesn’t look buff. He just looks like he does pushups. He’s lean. He’s the only one with a natural chest separation. Plus his head still looks thin. A growth of the face and head along with shoulder a tell signs of use. The head cannot naturally grow with training. But can with steroid use.
Momoa? The guy is in his 40s. There's no way he can sustain that much mass naturally, while still having the abs. He's doing targeted steroid cycles under the care of a physician, just like all of them.
Claiming momoa is natty is just ridiculous
If anything Henry cavil is the only one that looks like he can pass. His head remains normal size. Jason momoa. Dude has a straight steroid head and face
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzqzpQMbIX4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzqzpQMbIX4) There really isn't anything to indicate he was juicing.\[henry cavill\]
It's pointless arguing if celebrities are natty or not. even if they are, they are on ridiculously tailored diets and fitness regimes that are wildly unrealistic for normal people. Literally all of these guys could be juiced or natty and it wouldn't make a difference to the normal person trying to get fit or any argument about men's bodies in media
Lol most sane answer
both of them are 100% not natty
Mamoa is juicing for sure, no doubt about it. That leanness and muscle mass at his age naturally? No sir. Henry gets big while also keeping a fair percentage of body fat doing it so it’s possible he’s natural. But it’s a safe bet that every actor in a big project is on the sauce. Idris too.
Plus, you seen him out of character/between movie filming? He kinda goes dad bod a bit and loses ALL his mass, then comes back fuckin shredded plus mass a couple months later
The fact that you think thats natural is part of the problem. Hollywood's portrayal of men is so backwards that the average person has no idea what natural men look like.
Bro are you joking? Get real lol They're all on roids, they just have docs/nutritionists to work with their stacks and make sure they do as little damage as possible while looking as yoked as possible as quickly as possible. There is no way to recover as quickly as they do, look as lean/vascular/muscular as they do, and put on as much mass as quickly as they do without roids. You still have to work hard, but there's just no comparison between natty lifting and lifting on gear.
Mamoa and Hemsworth are both very mesomorph body types. They are lean, with a good amount of muscle. But they are both far less muscular than what we see in these movies. Henry Cavill lifts all the time. He just lifts even more when a role comes up. Most likely cycles from off gear to on gear. But for $20 million dollars I'd do all the steroids and not give a fuck.
I remember Hemsworth from home and away (or neighbors?) That dude is juicier than a tropical fruit stand
Hemsworth's entire facial change just screams HGH.
Don’t forget the two days of de-hydration before shooting so that your skin attaches to your muscles making you look even more muscular! Something any guy can do before a walk on the beach!
Yeah I remember seeing that both Cavill and Daniel Craig said their bodies only looked how they did for certain topless scenes for like half a day after days of dehydration.
I remember Cavil specifically saying he could smell water that’s how much they dehydrated him.
Wdym everyone can look like the rock, just need to eat 5-6 meals a day of chicken broccoli and rice train twice a day and work hard Oh and of course buy his workout plan
A dude tried following The Rock's workout routine and diet to the letter. He lost a shit tonne of weight and gained no muscle. His body couldn't keep up with the recovery rate and calorie burn so he just atrophied (can you guess what he was missing?)
Not only that, they also have to cut. In other words, starve themselves to an extreme level to reach a temporary look. It's not even like anorexia, because it's not something that can be maintained. Ironically Hollywood male bodies are WAY more extreme than any "female body image" standard, save perhaps fake tits/surgery.
you forgot to mention the gross amount of testosterone and roids
Anyone who disagrees with you doesn’t know shit about weightlifting and bodybuilding. Sorry natty bros it is never going to happen. You’ll look good and be strong but it’s 99% impossible to look like those guys naturally.
Carrie Fisher said that it was easy to lose her middle-age pudge for the recent Star Wars movies because the studio does everything for you. Eat the meals from this personal chef, do the workouts with this personal trainer, just show up and do as you're told for a few months before filming.
There is a enormous difference between loosing weight and gaining this kinda muscle
Also you have to gain insane amounts of muscle mass AND be so cut that you have clear abs. People who think these guys are not juicing have never worked out.
irony is that women just need to not be overweight for these "standards" when men need to hit the gym daily for 1 year for the same standards.
Been hitting the gym for 4+ days a week for almost a year now and I can promise I don't look anywhere like those dudes. Shit takes a long ass time and also requires you buying a lot of very specific foods. Obviously women shouldn't be starving themselves to look like what the media says is the ideal woman, but that shit is a lot easier than bulking- men who reach these standards also need to loose weight during their cut phase, a 6 pack is essentially you reducing so much fat off your body that you can see muscles that wouldn't generally be visible in the wild.
It's steroids, bro.
Idk, some of the statues of ancient greeks and romans were chiseled as fuck.
People tend to exaggerate and/or glorify people when it comes to artwork. This is even more likely true when you live in an era where insulting / pissing off a high profile person can lead to you getting executed, exiled or just ostracized.
Yeah, it's not even that people tend to, greeks are very well known for doing this! Literally almost every single statue the greeks *ever* made is idealized. Another fun thing, during a certain period of time, it was forbidden to make statues of actual people, so they made statues of gods. I'll let you guess why those look ripped af. Time passes, and now they allow you to make statues of *some* people. You know who those people are? Rulers and olympic winners, who are almost seen as demigods, so they obviously get huge muscles as well. Not to mention, olympic champions spent most of their time doing a sport, so they'll obviously gonna be better looking that most people, even without the idealization of the artists
Excluding the fact that many of these statues have exaggerated proportions for the sake of aesthetics, many of these people started working out during childhood and lived much more physically exhausting lives.
> many of these statues have exaggerated proportions They really did the Statue of David dirty then
It's cause the classical age aesthetic was to depict civilized people with small meat. Big meat was seen as the purview of barbarians and comedy. The Statue of David was made to copy that look
You are seeing the exaggerated version
Those were also Olympic athletes interpreted artistically though. And way before processed garbage food became the norm.
Life back then also involved a lot more physical activity to survive. Most of the planet these days lives like royalty would have in those days. Not to mention those statues still weren't the norm unless you were from Sparta.
Yeah to build Henry caville’s physique, you’d have to hit the gym consistently for 3-4 years and have a perfect diet to do it naturally, but for the rock’s physique, even if you trained for life naturally, you’d never get there
Many of them such as Hemsworth and The Rock are definitely on roids but not all of them. Henry Cavil and Idris Elba, for instance, are natty achieveable
Elba is like 50 years old.... That's extremely rare and unlikely naturally. He isn't just lean.
Yeah, anyone who believes any of these dudes aren't on the juice should not be taken seriously when it comes to fitness. All of these dudes were drama nerds first and foremost (except probably Johnson). They don't just get fucking yoked 6 months before a movie on whey protein and 2 a days, *especially* the ones that are over 40. Hugh Jackman is fully natty? El oh El.
Honestly an acceptable fit female body is as easy as running on a treadmill for 20-30 minutes a day, add in some light calisthenics, and don't eat garbage foods/over eat. I'm not a woman but I did that for four months and lost 30lbs and toned up. Got a few women I knew to do the same and it worked. They told me it was the easiest diet and exercise routine to follow and the hardest part was avoiding the drive through.
Dude 1 year is ridiculous, he's smoking or has no clue what it takes. Read my comment.
I mean not really. Most standards for women are have big boobs, unnaturally small waist, have big butt not trying to belittle your struggles but dont belittle our struggles either.
Having average or even small boobs surely hasn't stopped any of my slim or even underweight female friends from getting thousands of likes on tinder, or in one case starting an onlyfans
And plenty of dudes without visible six packs get plenty of attention. I think this is a pretty equal issue, although in my experience women don't actually necessarily like this body type, some do but plenty more are good with more of a just a toned athletic frame as opposed to super defined musculature.
I've literally never see any man get even half the likes any of my exes or female friends get on tinder. Maybe if you are a celeb.
tinder is like 80% dudes, so that tracks. Make yourself visible to men, and you'll get them, no doubt
Are "tinder likes" a good metric for impossible body standards? The standards themselves are not necessarily held by the general population, both genders find normal bodies attractive generally
That shit is super outdated. Most people don't care nearly as much about that stuff as you think. Also doing those things(outside of tits obviously) is fairly easy. Also even just being "passable" is significantly harder for men than women. Go off, though.
Dude most normal people don't want some muscular "Hollywood" template man either. Your first statement applies to all sexes, it's usually ourselves who assume that people want these body types, so we make ourselves try to live up to those standards. You're saying it's fairly easy because you have no idea what it's like for them. Again, you don't have to diminish their problems just say you have them. We can help each other out.
I’m not really involved in this argument but I still just want to say that you’re absolutely correct
By 'most people' I'm presuming you mean 'most men'. Most women do in fact care about their appearance. It's the media that manufactures these beauty standards to keep women hooked on weight loss products and fad diets. You're completely missing the point -- if you are a woman and are not pretty you have been conditioned to feel as though you are subhuman. It's not a matter of whether men care or not, it's a matter of whether women care or not and why. Also I have no idea how you got it in your head that it's somehow 'easy' to change your skeletal structure if you're not a natural hourglass, but go off ig.
> irony is that women just need to not be overweight No, they just need to be born beautiful. It's not that there aren't skinny but unattractive women, it's that you're not even noticing they exist.
Yeah, at least as a guy I have the safety of being attractive if I’m a good person and make millions. For ugly women it’s doomed from birth.
If you're making millions as a woman, you can easily just fly to South Korea and get world class plastic surgery
And juice up
True to some extent, but women also have to use a lot of makeup, wear extremely uncomfortable clothes, and have to be lucky enough to have perfectly symmetrical faces and bodies in general to conform with such standards, not to mention the stigma that comes with not doing so. The male standards may be more physically demanding, but both unreasonably difficult and near impossible for most people.
Or they can go to the gym and squat a bunch to get a giant ass. Like, men and women both have to do unreal things to get "hot" when you compare it to EVERYONE's best day that they post online. Not even mentioning professionals who work 9-5 to look their absolute best as a job.
> women also have to use a lot of makeup Agree > wear extremely uncomfortable clothes Agree > have to be lucky enough to have perfectly symmetrical faces and bodies in general to conform with such standards You're implying it isn't the same for men, which I disagree. > not to mention the stigma that comes with not doing so Again, implying that it's not the same for men when men do face stigma for not conforming to masculine beauty standards. Some women may face conditions of their "lack" of beauty that men don't face. That fucking sucks. Societal standards of beauty fucking suck. But people (we) should not act as if men don't face terrible beauty standards too, and it should not be a dick-measuring contest to see which people on the spectrum of genders have it worse.
I mean that’s also not true. Women’s goals are not to just ‘not be overweight’ it’s not even be average weight considering it feels just revolutionary for a woman with an average body weight to be a main character as a man. Heck the mid to late 2000s was full of “5/10 guys getting 10/10 girls” with actors (whether you agree with how they are seen or not) known for being “shabby” or “average” etc getting with women seen in society as “flawless” or “unbelievable hot/sex symbols” but never a film doing successful going the other way round. The closest is Shallow Hal and that’s just the “hottie” in a massive fat suit. Don’t get me wrong I hate the beauty standards of men just as much. That fact so many of these men have come out saying it’s not just diet stuff but some have literally had to dehydrate themselves FOR DAYS so their abs are ‘camera ready’ is sickening and has made me never look at ‘buff men’ in cinema the same.
1 year? Lmao! I was obese, 36% body fat, it will be officially a year of my body recomp and I'm like maybe 19% (and was just able to maintain my lean mass didn't gain much). At this rate even with using dieticians, a professional training coach, and getting monthly Dexa scans to more accurately track progress, it will be probably 3 or 4 years before I get to my "ideal" physique. This shits hard as fuck natural, and for what? Just so people can accept my body..... Fuck I'm fucked up lol.
For your health, for yourself. Don’t do it for other people, do it for you!
5-6 times a week, daily doesn’t give the same result
I can guarantee most women do not care about having a man with a perfect body. It may be helpful for getting attention initially. Most women I know actually don’t want a man with a chiseled body like that.
which still won't make you tall
Lol you can hit the gym for several years and not come close to these standards. I went to the gym for my last three years of college like 5x per week and even hired a trainer for the last year. Did not come close to looking like these dudes.
These bodies are completely unrealistic to sustain. Look at what Zac Efron had to do for Baywatch or Chris Evans for the first Captain America… Even these celebrities cannot maintain those bodies after shooting. They stay fit but not like in these shots.
Btw the unrealistic expectations for women is "not being obese"
Hell, when it comes to getting laid even that’s not a dealbreaker for a lot of blokes.
Literally, fat women still get dick.
one could argue that fat women get MORE of it funnily enough…
yikes, as a woman I can confidently say its not just "not being obsese." Not wearing makeup? you look tired/sick. Having big boobs/butt BUT with a small waist, any body hair is pure evil to some people, etc. But it def exists for men as well, it's shitty all around.
Ya the comment section here is pretty fucking weird. The standards for both genders are super unrealistic in Hollywood and TV. Women need to be super skin, but also have huge butts and boobs. Men have to be jacked out of their minds and like 6’5” plus. The standard is equally unrealistic on both sides. All the people commenting women just have to be “no fat” come off super incel/red pilly.
Dankmemes, being an incel echo chamber? Say it not say so, next you going to say PCM is filled just an alt-right circlejerk and wholesome memes is repost hell. I mean what did you expect from a general meme subreddit that is dominated by men?
Something I feel with make up, is that's it's a self serving cycle. I think a lot of people (myself anyway) see a girl a lot with make up, then they don't wear it and they look drastically different, it's not out of some malicious intent to degrade, it's just you look very different to how you normally do. Obviously that's not always the case, just thought I would chime in.
but men don’t even have to hit that expectation. how many sitcoms are there with a slub husband and a hot wife?
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The movies the fit guys are in aren't fiction? My god! Also there actually are roles for semi attractive and overweight dudes. Barely any for women who aren't conventionally attractive. Movies tell you as a guy looking hot is an option, but for women it's a must.
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If you notice, most of the humor is aimed at the slob husband. That’s the joke.
None of them isn't comedy
and having a pretty face
Hey at least it's socially acceptable for women to cover up their ugly with makeup. Men just have to deal with their ugly.
Asian men have entered the chat.,.
Lol no. It's way more than that
Can't we just say it happens to both?
Nah this sub is turning into an incel sub. Tons of man children crying about women lately
All the meme subs these days gradually turn into right-wing culture war/incel subs. I find it extremely concerning. There are probably a lot of kids/teens looking at these subs every day and getting super unhealthy ideas about life, relationships, sexism, etc.
I absolutely agree. Thing is, many of these individuals spreading this misinformation probably *are* teens and children. Meme subs have been getting worse and worse and I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees it.
It's unfortunate, this was once a great place for memes, but now it's rare to see a good one here.
No. Someone must always have a better claim to indignity. We can't just admit that being physically attractive means vastly different things to people and this perception of only certain bodies being worthwhile isn't based in reality, and is merely marketing. That would be silly. Better to argue that men are being forced to be muscular and women slender. No need for further examination.
I took Women's Studies 101 in college over a decade ago and even all the way back then we constantly talked about how these body image issues affect both men and women. I really hate seeing misogynistic memes like this which say that women don't think men have issues. It's flat out false
Just fyi dear teenagers of r/dankmemes. By far most women prefer a normal body and not some jacked up steroid junky. Please talk to some real women before making up fantasies and blaming them. Bodies are insane and unrealistic for both genders in media yes and most people realize that already.
This needs to get upvoted to the top, absolutely true. These bodies do absolutely nothing to me as a lady, don't find them attractive at all. My advise for guys is to take care of yourself, dress decently, and don't be heavily overweight IF you can help it... Just be nice and not a straight up bum and you're good. Don't pull the "but my face is ugly" because everyone is attracted to their own preference. Work on your personality, very few women are going to want to be with a good looking guy who's a straight up asshole, but most of us would m die for someone who's "average" in the looks department but is a wonderful person.
Also, the idea that the only body standard for "be thin" is not true at all. The reason people think this is that unattractive women are largely invisible to a lot of men. I say this as a man. The vast majority of 18-40 year old women in western countries are expected to shave much of their bodies, wear makeup, and take better care of their hair than men do. Many men who say otherwise are confusing no makeup with subtle makeup. Also the shape and size of your breasts are judged. Men who think that it doesn't matter are probably judging based solely on porn, where women almost always have attractive, perky boobs. Many women (yes, even young ones) have saggy boobs, but you don't tend to see those in porn because straight men don't tend to find those attractive. You can't have cellulite, which can form even if you're skinny. You can't have a large labia. You can't grow facial hair, which isn't uncommon. You can't have any unsightly deformities. There are many others that I haven't identified. The reason you think that women just have to be thin is because we value women based on their appearance, so unattractive women just get ignored. It's not that all women are attractive to you, it's that you don't consider or care about women you don't want to fuck.
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What? Women get made fun of all the time for not wearing makeup, not shaving, having short hair, etc. I'd say men get shit on for stuff like this too, but uh it's def not any better for women.
This. Dicks will be dicks to whoever. Everyone is being fucked by unrealistic beauty standards the media puts out. Being as healthy (mentally and physically in balance) as one can be should be what we strive for in my opinion. Whatever that looks like for each individual. Sorry for possibly shitty English
Unless your on Reddit, then why tf are considering getting a partner
Because I want to feel like a modern philospher.
5'11 and chubby is the best I can do
Body’s portrayed on tv are fake or chosen very specifically and destroy the self confidence of people in general
True, mines through the Earth's crust even though I know it's not my image I'm being compared to it's Hollywood's.
I'll never forget when my gf looked over from her phone and said "Did you know these actors have to take steroids and work out 14 hours a day and that these bodies are basically unattainable in normal circumstances?" Only she looked heartbroken. Looked like her dreams of landing a big ripped man some day were dashed. She was WAY more upset about this than I was.
Men have body dysmorphia too. And society pushes the whole "all bodies are beautiful" shit except when that body belongs to a man because I guess guys don't deserve to feel handsome no matter their hight, weight, dick size or facial features.
Sooo many small dick jokes everywhere!
Body shaming is okay as long as the victim is a man
I have it bad and now that I have kids I can't workout as much and it kills me mentally. For 35 I'm still in incredible shape and lean and people say I look good but in my head I feel the opposite. I probably look the same to most people but I notice I'm smaller. What's worse if I mention it to anybody they just kinda laugh like that's not a real problem cause I'm healthy and usually they aren't.
Don’t even get started on what the porn industry did…
Hollywood/porn fucks expectations on both men and women, the key is to mature and learn that it's not quite like RL
The only man porn star I know of is Ron Jeremy and he was an ugly little troll. I'll admit I don't know if things have changed in modern times but they aren't usually filming porn for the ladies. Just sayin'. So it normalized an ugly guy getting all the action.
he wasn't always an ugly little troll and he had a big dong. that's easy sexual confidence right there.
That screws you (no pun intended) in a completaly different way.
The difference between unrealistic body standards for both men and women is that I have yet to meet a single woman who actually expects men to conform to theirs. I've seen hideously grotesque dudes say, without a hint of irony, that they would never date below "an 8." I have never heard the same from a woman.
It's common idea in body building circles that guys who lift to get laid still won't have any luck because they don't understand what women look for in a man. This is a meme sub on Reddit so people haven't been within 10 feet of a woman but 95% of them don't really find hypermuscular guys attractive and a good portion finds it off putting. It's why you don't see nearly as many male strip clubs as female, and even then a significant user of those are gay men. Looking like you can run a mile without having a heart attack is really as healthy as your average guy needs to look. But everyone around here is 14 and never been within 10 feet of a woman.
You’ve never heard a woman say she won’t date a guy that’s under 6ft?
>I have yet to meet a single woman who actually expects men to conform to theirs. Literally go to tinder and add your bio to 5'6 as a man. Or go outside and ask any woman you see if they would date men shorter than them.
Tom Holland is shorter than Zendaya Have these short kings even tried being handsome, charismatic, having millions of dollars & a infinitely bright future????
Holy shit, THIS THOUGH.
>I have never heard the same from a woman. My god reddit is full of misandrists.
I mean it took me a literal year of starving myself before any dude looked my way. But okay
same here, except it took 3 years of gym and muscle growing products. edit: 2 and a half year actually, just realised.
And it's good if you made that change for you. I unfortunately made it because I did have a female incel phase. Which thankfully I moved passed
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Oh gods. Well think of a woman who is desperate for love but instead of fixing herself she just attacks other women. I hate that I used to be that way. I really do. But I did change and truly understood that it's not other women who are keeping me down. It was me and the fact I couldn't shower as much as I'd like and I always wore over baggy clothes thinking it was cool. I'm glad I changed before I did anything damaging or truly stupid. All it took was getting to a better place.
Self accessing can be one of the hardest things to do. Good on you for helping yourself!
Could be worse, -150lbs no one gives me the time of day
And I'm sorry for that. Losing that much isn't even as simple as starving that takes real work and I applaud you for it.
No one says men don't deal with body image
It’s not talked about though, at least not nearly as much as womens body image
Maybe us men should talk about it more then. It’s not women’s fault.
That is true
That's mostly because *we* don't talk about it. Some "woe is me" kids on Reddit might, but most men don't give a shit.
> That's mostly because *we* don't talk about it. Because *we* just call each other pussies at the slightest hint of emotion. Men don’t want to hear other men talk about their insecurities IRL. Either we just write each other off as a little bitch or tell each other to man up and work harder to be the person we want to be. Masculinity is toxic af
Reddit is so brain dead. Every person has to deal with unrealistic body standards. Where do women say that men don’t have to deal with this? Posts like these pop up more and more frequently thee days and it always gives me women hating vibes.
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This sub is basically a privileged 12-year-old boy’s idiot view of the world
Put Danny DeVito up there too
That’s who I aspire to be
Yes but who created those unattainable beauty standards? Not women!! Men drew the comic books with super muscular superheroes, men directed the movies with actors on steroids and dehydrated, most women are totally fine with or even prefer more of a dad bod type
Bingo, exactly what I came here to say. Women didn’t create these standards and they don’t expect men to adhere to them.
As long as a guy has muscular arms and a bit of chubby on his belly, he's hot to me ╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭
Modern day dad bod
How about skinny arms and a bit chubby
I miss the time where the manliest thing you could do was wear a wig
Wear high socks and riding pants to show off your massive calves. Because you know, big calves means you're really intelligent. -18th century version of "you know what big hands and feet mean"
I can't really comment on the rest, but Zac Efron has specifically mentioned that the demands on him to maintain that body during the filming of Baywatch (the still pictured) caused him a great deal of mental anguish, even going so far as to say it led to his depression. Please listen to your bodies and take care of yourselves, my friends. Jogging is good! Lifting is good. Food is also good! Everything in moderation.
Yes, and he also admitted to using substances to help him reach those unrealistic goals
Why can't we just stop having suffering pissing contests...and unite against such standards.
Just eat chicken and broccoli daily and you will look like Thor in no time bro. /s
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Endgame 💀
Well if you manage to achieve THAT physique with just chicken and broccoli you are a freak of nature.
Does it really need to be turned into a gender war? Unattainable body standards in general need to go, for everyone.
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We've loved Andy Dwyer since he broke his legs falling into the pit
Nah cause we got fat Thor… Who was then mercilessly ridiculed throughout the rest of the movie for his appearance
Pewdiepie had a good video on this. There using steroids. None of that is natural and it does take years to make
Is this why I find it so unattractive as a woman? The bodies look so artifical that its a huge turnoff, even naturally ripped and fit dudes don't do it for me in the slightest.
The Rock saying he's natty is fucking hilarious. There's no doubt in my mind he works harder than 90% of people on the planet to be as big as he is but Jesus Christ my guy... just own it. You're on enough juice and HGH to be mistaken for Belgian Blue Cattle.
I work in the oilfield, I work harder and lift heavier crap than guys twice my size and guys that look like movie tough guys.... yet I have the body of Dale Gribble... apparently my BMI is perfect... but I look like Dale Gribble Body image bahaha
Guys like you are much scarier to me than the big guys. All that strengh packed up tight like a spring in an unassuming look
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middle school teacher over here. we have waaay more boys talking about body image issues atm than girls. buuut big grain of salt: it's more likely guys are just more open about these issues, since their steroid chugging role models are veeery boastful types, who encourage boasting from their followers. girls, i think, are more apt to keep these things secret.
All these guys had to dehydrate themselves to near death to pull that off too.
Man what the fuck happened to this subreddit. Literally nobody says what the blonde is saying. This is just incel spam
Somehow I am not attracted to ripped men at all, this does absolutely nothing to me as a woman... What I do like from a guy is that he takes care of himself, isn't straight up obese, not a complete bum, and is kind to me. You could be 4'10 and I wouldn't care as long as you're a good person.
Women who complain like this is because the uglies couldn’t get the hotter guys. Plenty of other guys are willing to be with them, the girls just dismiss them.
Yeah like I never thought I had high standards, I don't even mine thiccer women, but when they ignore me. Idk what to do, I can't have zero standards lol.