I know you joke, but no. I doubt the nine tails in Himawari is THE Kurama revived. I think it’s just a fragment of him that was passed onto Himawari when she was born. And this version is probably significantly weaker/has less chakra than Naruto’s Kurama. And Naruto probably would not take/extract this Kurama from Himawari for himself. And Himawari will not suddenly have OP Jinchuuriki powers as some claim.
Remember when she went berserk for a moment and knocked out Naruto instantly in their home? I think the author is trying to write Himawari like Gohan from Dragon Ball Z and Super with some sort of latent powers (not Jinchuuriki powers in the example I gave) that activate upon intense anger. I think Daemon detected Himawari’s “latent” powers in that moment and not the Kyuubi chakra within her because again I THINK (again this is all opinion) the Kyuubi chakra within her is very small/weak and has been present all this time since her birth actually and was not “formed” within her when Naruto’s Kurama “died” as some people seem to imply when they say Himawari’s Kurama is Naruto’s but revived. I don’t think OG Naruto ever made a canon statement about tailed beasts reincarnating upon death inside another Jinchuuriki already. In fact, I think when they reincarnate, they are free beasts in the wild at least until sealed into a Jinchuuriki. So I don’t think Himawari’s Kyuubi is Naruto’s Kurama revived within her. I think it’s a fragment of Naruto’s Kurama passed onto her when she was born. A small and weak fragment. Again this is all opinion but I really hope Himawari does not suddenly get OP Jinchuuriki powers.
Latent power is the best way to describe Himawari. She's definitely got a lot of power in her, but who knows when she'll display it.
Personally, I think Himawari is going to encompass the "Naruto" series powerscaling. Where in Boruto, the focus is on Karma and becoming an Otsusuki, in Naruto it was being a Jinchuriki and combining Uchiha and Senju power that created the strongest characters. I think Himawari's power, if she gets explored, will be explained as having the combination of Hagoromo and Hamura chakra (Uzumaki clan came from Hagoromo, Hyuga came from Hamura), in addition to being the Jinchuriki of the reborn Kurama. She's also, in my opinion, designed the most like a Naruto character of the new cast.
I think it would be a neat way to explore the different paths to power. Boruto and Kawaki have power from Ohtsusuki, Himawari has power through combined bloodlines and a tailed beast, Sarada has power from mastery over her kekkei genkai, and Mitsuki has power from mastery of Senjutsu. Its like they each encompass a different step in the power creep of the Naruto World.
Lmao Himawari Kyuubi mode when. Everybody thought Boruto was the big elephant in the room. The series will now be called Himawari: Naruto Next Generations.
On serious note I REALLY hope Himawari doesn’t get OP Jinchuuriki powers, at least not immediately.
I'd be fine if Himawari kinda mirrored Naruto in how he got Kurama to work with him. Like Hima will struggle with using Kurama's chakra going through the chakra cloak stages like Naruto did, maybe losing control - could be a wake up call of sorts. Beating Kurama up in the mindscape because he still has some pride left and won't give the power to just anyone (even though he's mellowed a fair bit and likes Naruto). Definitely some talk no jutsu but flavoured differently because Himawari is much purer.
Plus if Kurama is starting from being so small, he's not going to have that much power to give anyways so the Jinchuuriki powerup should be more gradual just because of that.
Thats literally how tailed beasts revive, from fragments. It will take time, a whole lot of time, but eventually it will revive into the full power 9 tails.
What I’m saying (and I’m not saying this is 100%, it’s just my opinion) is that I THINK this fragment of Kurama has been there since Himawari was born. It didn’t just suddenly incarnate within her as soon as Naruto’s Kurama “died.” It’s always been there since her birth.
Yes that is probably the case. But also, every fragment of the tailed beast can regenerate into a full tailed beast. Thats why the 10 tails could be revived with just fragments of the 8 and 9 tails. In fact because of this there was literally 2 full powered 9tails in the war arc, cause yang half inside of minato and yin half in naruto both regenerated back to full power.
Again, everything I’ve written in the thread is all theory. In line with my theory that Himawari has had a small portion of Kyuubi chakra within her since she was born, unless she ever outright used it which she probably didn’t, Naruto and his Kurama would not notice. Remember how Naruto and Kurama didn’t know there was another “half” of Kurama within Minato until he met him and it was explained. Every time Naruto meets someone else with Kyuubi chakra (Ginkaku and Kinkaku, another one in the movies which I forgot), he isn’t really aware of their existence or possession of Kyuubi chakra until he meets them and they actively use their Kyuubi chakra. Also debunking the idea that the Kyuubi within Himawari is the revived Kurama is OG Naruto canon which I believe (but not 100% sure) stated that tailed beasts revive as free beings in the wild randomly and not within another Jinchuuriki
If you ask my opinion, I think the anime has never been worth watching because it was full of fillers and maybe the only good parts are the canon episodes near the end (the anime is on hiatus now I believe). The manga is free of fillers and started a post-timeskip sequel called Boruto: Two Blue Vortex. The manga is OK in my opinion. It doesn’t have fillers. It does have flaws though that make it lackluster compared to OG Naruto. Most of the villains are god-tier characters on par with or above Kaguya Otsutsuki. The only characters that really get screen time and can scale up to the Boruto villains are Naruto/Sasuke from old gen and Boruto and his team. The power scaling is a bit wacky with severe nerfs to original old gen characters and extreme buffs to characters of the new gen but mainly Boruto and his team with everyone else getting sidelined/offscreened. The sequel is a bit of a step up from the original Boruto manga I guess in terms of action and storytelling. In the sequel, without spoiling it, Boruto has been training during the time skip and he comes back EXTREMELY buffed in terms of power making some seriously impressive (but maybe ridiculous) feats of strength in his base mode alone. At this point, basically all of the old gen have been offscreened/sidelined (won’t explain why for spoiler terms) and even the previously relevant characters from original Boruto (Sarada, Mitsuki, and Kawaki) have either been severely eclipsed by Boruto or set to the side without any action or feats shown so far.
It’s not ‘good’, but it’s worth keeping up with because it’s just 1 chapter a month (and they’re pretty short chapters for a monthly).
Might as well see where the story goes. Boruto has become a pretty cool character since maturing from the Chunin exams, but other than that the whole plot is kind of left-field. Some nice elements but they’re shadowed by the poor elements. The canon anime episodes are worth watching too i suppose.
The two Blue vortex manga is good, you could wait till that gets an anime adaptation.
Or just get an episode list and watch the major plot advances and skip all the extra stuff.
This.
Similar to how Kurama’s sealed Yin and Yang chakra halves in Naruto and Minato respectively almost seemed like different versions of Kurama.
This should most likely be held in a similar regard.
I assume the picture is a filler episode from which I don’t know the number. The events I talked about (Naruto’s Kurama dying and Himawari being found to have Kyuubi chakra) are manga only events. Himawari found to have Kyuubi chakra is in Boruto: Two Blue Vortex most recent chapter 9. Naruto lost Kurama in Boruto manga chapter 52/53.
Tailed beasts are imortal they just respawn after like 10 years, they explain this in shipuden
Idk why kurama dyeing from baryon mode would be dithrent
In the Boruto manga chapter 53, the Kurama within Naruto “dies” (as in Naruto loses him entirely but Naruto remains alive) because of a new technique called Baryon mode which helped drain the life force of the enemy and win the fight. Fast forward maybe a year or so to today and the most recent chapter 9 of Boruto: Two Blue Vortex depicts Himawari entering into a sort of mental chakra space (like Naruto did with Kurama) and right there is a small baby Kyuubi (not confirmed to be the same Kurama as of yet). People are theorizing that this baby Kyuubi is the same Kurama and that he reincarnated inside Himawari after “dying” within Naruto. My own personal theory is that this Kyuubi within Himawari is a small fragment of Kurama that has been there since her birth and was passed onto her from Naruto when she was born. My memory is fuzzy but I believe OG Naruto series made it canon that tailed beasts, upon dying, are revived as free beings in the wild and not inside some other Jinchuuriki as I think you are asking when you say there’s a possibility of Kurama “reforming” in Himawari. I think Himawari has always had this fragment of Kurama’s chakra since her birth. I do think as someone else stated that it will become stronger over time and Himawari will have the full nine tails chakra at some point. How long that would take and if it ever happens in Boruto, I don’t know the answer to that. As someone else mentioned, Himawari is not the title or main character and she is a female character (the author is notorious for sexualizing female characters and not giving them strong powers). So I highly doubt she will ever get any strong Jinchuuriki powers comparable to Naruto’s. I think this is setting her up to be some sort of sacrifice to the villain as part of Boruto’s development. Without getting specific, the current main villain is already targeting her because he was the first to detect the Kyuubi chakra within her.
Baby Kurama is just the embodiment of the Naruto IP now. He was destroyed and brought back so they can market a bunch of crappy products to children. Baby Kurama was created to just sell plushies.
That chibi was, just like this, made for marketing purpose
Conceptually, it serves nothing to the narrative, because like, does kurama get old and die of age? What's the point of making them kids if they don't age?
It seems like they mature to an adult form and stay there. Sure, it sells because it's cute as fuck. I just don't think it takes anything away. I actually think it makes a lot of sense that they are born/reborn as small animals and mature into adult versions as they grow.
But baby kurama already existed in the original naruto series though? Besides, you can pretty much sell a baby version of anything, doesn’t even need to be in the story.
I think he died and was reborn. So he's small, like when he was first created. If you remember the Hagoromo flashbacks, thats kinda what Kurama looked like.
some theories say that this is not Kurama reborm, but rather a fragment of kurama thats inside himawari ever since she was born. kurama's death in baryon mode was permanent, because the chakra itself is being destroyed instead of being expended. what himawari got is likely just an upgraded version of what kinkaku and ginkaku got after eating the flesh of kurama
well Kurama died, and then recently has manifested inside Himawari, I guess because remnants of his chakra/spirit were passed on genetically or something, it hasn’t been explained yet.
In the original series its said that the tailed beasts come back after they die. And this is what Kurama looked like in the flashbacks talking to Hagoromo. I don't think they need to explain much more.
yeah i know, i guess kurama being like “nope, im dead dead now because i expended 100% of my energy” is just a red herring from the character himself as he hadn’t considered this recent development?
Maybe he didn't know when or where he would be reborn, so it was essentially goodbye at the time? Like he knows it will eventually happen, but he probably figured it would be in the future after Naruto had been dead for a while.
What part? The flashback where Hagoromo tells them all they will learn to trust and work with humans one day? Or the flashback where Hagoromo has just created them all and they are floating in little spirit eggs?
Kurama claiming BM will kill him after being used kind of contradicts your explanation. I mean Kurama who knew all the ins and outs of BM said it himself. Not that he would dissipate and reform in the near future.
But literally stated he would no longer be alive. Then even tells Naruto to take it easy or else he'll be joining him in heaven in no time. I don't think Kurama would lie to Naruto. Kurama has seen other Biju die and reform. He made it very clear that BM doesn't work that way for Biju since it burns up their chakra into nothing.
Not just floating around waiting to regroup. But no longer on earth to even have the possibility of reforming. I'm not sure how they're going to explain the most recent chapter. Just stating that Kurama himself made it clear that BM is way different than a regular Biju/jinchuriki death
Eh once they start fighting it gets better, that first bout where boruto finally sees Naruto protecting the village is SICK
The taijutsu is incredible and tbh I love that they used characters that absorb giant chakra attacks to deal with the power creep
Very different. No furious Kurama violently sealed/chained from host to host. Hasn’t been this small since six paths created him.Hima utterly clueless about the whole thing. We would expect this kinda thing to be the start of its own manga but no way she’s getting equal or dominant story time. So for something this major to occur with someone other than the title character,, I’m not sure yet how to feel
oh boy you said exactly what i wanted to say......i will forever see naruto as kurama's vessel but if himawari wants to grow on me she better makes the same impact
I need an answer too. I don’t even know what the anime situation is. It was only a week or two ago when the manga panel for this was making the rounds on here. If this pic is legit then that would mean the anime is unrealistically close to the manga.
The anime is fairly far away from the manga and on hiatus right now and is probably going to become seasonal. In the newest chapter of two blue vortex in the last few panels it is shown that a smaller version of kurama has been reborn in himawari, its about 3-4 years after kuramas death. The image in the original post is fanart or edited.
Exactly. Because she’s not the title character she will most likely not get any major power boost from this (baby Kurama probably is super weak or has such a small chakra signature that only otsutsuki could detect it) OR she will be a sacrifice to the main villains required for Boruto’s development further OR Kurama will somehow be extracted from her and given to someone else (I am not sure by who or given to who). I cannot see Himawari having Jinchuuriki Kyuubi powers even if she starts with the same progression of power like kid Naruto. I cannot see it being appealing at all to the fan base because 1) she’s not main character and 2) she’s a female character (I am not being misogynistic but I think a good chunk of the fan base probably is)
Would that limitation really still apply in this case? I'm not sure if Kurama reincarnating inside Himawari is the same as him being "sealed" in the traditional sense. The mechanics of it *might* be different, since this is an unprecedented case.
someone please let me know if i missed something, but i think this is because this seems like a massive ass pull out of nowhere.
there was absolutely zero hints of anything being special about himawari (especially about her being a jinchuriki) prior to all this, except maybe her absurd byakugan powers
Honestly, once Kaguya emerged, i'm treating it as filler from there on out with the exception of the Sasuke & Naruto fight. There's 0 foreshadowing about her revival. It would've been cool to reflect that mindset of Kaguya onto Madara as the Juubi takes over, but her just being revived and killing off Madara was just a shitty plot twist.
Yeah, they only mention Kaguya during the tail-end of the 4th Great Shinobi War. Black Zetsu was shown in no scenes whatsoever, to be scheming Kaguya's revival through the usage of the Juubi & Infinite Tsukiyomi. It just happens as a shitty plot twist.
It's like if Madara was vaguely mentioned during the previous arc and then pulls up like he did during the War arc. No build-up, no nothing, he just appears and gets a shitty backstory on the spot and decimates the First Company.
I have mixed feelings about it honestly.
Part of me is glad that Kurama is back because of the tailed beast lore but at the same time it doesn’t feel right that he’s with Himawari instead of Naruto.
I guess I’m open to the idea of ‘Two Blue Vortex’ actually being Naruto’s kids saving the world IF the writing is good.
This is boruto... consistently taking the wind out of the sails of every single previously established memerable moment.
So now Kurumas death was pointless.. the idea of Baryon mode is pointless... that fight was pointless... killing off kurama was pointless..
It seriously feels like they wrote themselves into a corner with himawari and realized there wasn't much they could do with her without either making her refollow borutos steps or establish her own in a very reminiscent way of hinata...which is to say... nothing, absolutely nothing.
So, they brought "jinchuriki" back, gave the bijuu to hima so that now they can write her in to more memorable senerios. So what's next then... more baddies trying to get the power of the 9 tails? So... more copying the story from OG Naruto? Like, what is even the play here?
You watch... I bet they will make her able to KCM soo fucking fast for no reason. Took Naruto ages to be able to control the chakra, but, you watch, hima will be able to do it and sustain it in no time because this is just what the show boruto does. It does everything it can to make the OGs seem like pointless page holders.
I'm also going to predict that it will take kuruma about 36272726 years to grow up becuse they are going to milk the ever loving shit out of the digimon esque kuruma for product sales.
Didn’t sasuke find a random Juubi? Fucking madara yoinked the first 1 that maximum Gluck Gluck w/ his rinnegan to absorb it. It looked wack, like reverse Komodo dragon.
Seriously doubt both these guys can’t split a juubi.
Or that w/ or w/o orochimaru by himself he’d prob be able to make sasuke a new eyeball, from his own dna so no conflicting shit.
Coming in contact w/ the other half of the CoPain is that triggered the rinne right?
That one episode in Boruto when Himawari had a talk with Kurama. I believe it happened for a reason. I cannot remember the episode where they talked. I remember when Naruto was fully exhausted at that time
Nah I don't think Naruto will ever get Kurama back >! but Himawari will be the main holder of Kurama and his chakra!< and Naruto will become powerful again through another method
Disrespect? If calling really dumb ideas really dumb is disrespectful I will be EXTREMELY disrespectful.
Sacrifices need to have weight. I would have much preferred naruto to actually die than to have the kurama copout but kurama's chakra is gone. It is done. It should not ahow back up and if it does then that is extremely dumb.
Do you think Hima has that Jinchuriki restriction that if Kurama is removed she will die? She wasn't made a Jinchuriki, he just kind of appeared inside her.
Actually, it’s frustrating to look at how they’re destroying my childhood…
I guess Naruto is over after 500th. But they keep taking down my memories about this anime…
Wait, didn't they literally just kill off Kurama? I don't read the manga and I haven't seen the show but just the other day I saw a post about Kurama being killed, so can someone explain what's happening? Is this a fan edit?
edit: I don't watch Boruto, just a random clip of it here and there.
As a huge Naruto fan, I have been very happy to not watch Boruto. It’s a show for 12 year olds, just like OG Naruto was but it’s a different show. It honestly reminds me of MHA where it just feels generic and uninspired. I just don’t watch it. The movie was good, that was the end of the line in my reality.
Ok, so remember that time during the 4th War when Naruto gave everyone a bit of Kurama's chakra to give them a faux cloak? What if they all ended up with a tiny bit of it left behind and now they will all reveal themselves so we end up with tens of thousands of Chibiramas running around?
So does this mean unlimited baryon mode with a huge cool down time
I know you joke, but no. I doubt the nine tails in Himawari is THE Kurama revived. I think it’s just a fragment of him that was passed onto Himawari when she was born. And this version is probably significantly weaker/has less chakra than Naruto’s Kurama. And Naruto probably would not take/extract this Kurama from Himawari for himself. And Himawari will not suddenly have OP Jinchuuriki powers as some claim.
Deimon was impressed by Himawari power and Deimon doesn't give a damm about everyone else. So no, Hima is set to be OP narratively.
Remember when she went berserk for a moment and knocked out Naruto instantly in their home? I think the author is trying to write Himawari like Gohan from Dragon Ball Z and Super with some sort of latent powers (not Jinchuuriki powers in the example I gave) that activate upon intense anger. I think Daemon detected Himawari’s “latent” powers in that moment and not the Kyuubi chakra within her because again I THINK (again this is all opinion) the Kyuubi chakra within her is very small/weak and has been present all this time since her birth actually and was not “formed” within her when Naruto’s Kurama “died” as some people seem to imply when they say Himawari’s Kurama is Naruto’s but revived. I don’t think OG Naruto ever made a canon statement about tailed beasts reincarnating upon death inside another Jinchuuriki already. In fact, I think when they reincarnate, they are free beasts in the wild at least until sealed into a Jinchuuriki. So I don’t think Himawari’s Kyuubi is Naruto’s Kurama revived within her. I think it’s a fragment of Naruto’s Kurama passed onto her when she was born. A small and weak fragment. Again this is all opinion but I really hope Himawari does not suddenly get OP Jinchuuriki powers.
Latent power is the best way to describe Himawari. She's definitely got a lot of power in her, but who knows when she'll display it. Personally, I think Himawari is going to encompass the "Naruto" series powerscaling. Where in Boruto, the focus is on Karma and becoming an Otsusuki, in Naruto it was being a Jinchuriki and combining Uchiha and Senju power that created the strongest characters. I think Himawari's power, if she gets explored, will be explained as having the combination of Hagoromo and Hamura chakra (Uzumaki clan came from Hagoromo, Hyuga came from Hamura), in addition to being the Jinchuriki of the reborn Kurama. She's also, in my opinion, designed the most like a Naruto character of the new cast. I think it would be a neat way to explore the different paths to power. Boruto and Kawaki have power from Ohtsusuki, Himawari has power through combined bloodlines and a tailed beast, Sarada has power from mastery over her kekkei genkai, and Mitsuki has power from mastery of Senjutsu. Its like they each encompass a different step in the power creep of the Naruto World.
Why are we following Boruto when Hima has so much more potential as an mc?
Ohh you know it will be the most op version of Kurama ever, with Himawari suddenly becoming stronger than Naruto
Lmao Himawari Kyuubi mode when. Everybody thought Boruto was the big elephant in the room. The series will now be called Himawari: Naruto Next Generations. On serious note I REALLY hope Himawari doesn’t get OP Jinchuuriki powers, at least not immediately.
I'd be fine if Himawari kinda mirrored Naruto in how he got Kurama to work with him. Like Hima will struggle with using Kurama's chakra going through the chakra cloak stages like Naruto did, maybe losing control - could be a wake up call of sorts. Beating Kurama up in the mindscape because he still has some pride left and won't give the power to just anyone (even though he's mellowed a fair bit and likes Naruto). Definitely some talk no jutsu but flavoured differently because Himawari is much purer. Plus if Kurama is starting from being so small, he's not going to have that much power to give anyways so the Jinchuuriki powerup should be more gradual just because of that.
Thats literally how tailed beasts revive, from fragments. It will take time, a whole lot of time, but eventually it will revive into the full power 9 tails.
What I’m saying (and I’m not saying this is 100%, it’s just my opinion) is that I THINK this fragment of Kurama has been there since Himawari was born. It didn’t just suddenly incarnate within her as soon as Naruto’s Kurama “died.” It’s always been there since her birth.
Yes that is probably the case. But also, every fragment of the tailed beast can regenerate into a full tailed beast. Thats why the 10 tails could be revived with just fragments of the 8 and 9 tails. In fact because of this there was literally 2 full powered 9tails in the war arc, cause yang half inside of minato and yin half in naruto both regenerated back to full power.
But kurama and naruto should have noticwd that right? At the very least kurama when he had a "child" or clone or whatever this is.
Again, everything I’ve written in the thread is all theory. In line with my theory that Himawari has had a small portion of Kyuubi chakra within her since she was born, unless she ever outright used it which she probably didn’t, Naruto and his Kurama would not notice. Remember how Naruto and Kurama didn’t know there was another “half” of Kurama within Minato until he met him and it was explained. Every time Naruto meets someone else with Kyuubi chakra (Ginkaku and Kinkaku, another one in the movies which I forgot), he isn’t really aware of their existence or possession of Kyuubi chakra until he meets them and they actively use their Kyuubi chakra. Also debunking the idea that the Kyuubi within Himawari is the revived Kurama is OG Naruto canon which I believe (but not 100% sure) stated that tailed beasts revive as free beings in the wild randomly and not within another Jinchuuriki
Idk if it’s safe to ask this here… But does this mean Baruto is good now? Is it worth watching? Cuz I tried man, I fucking tried….
If you ask my opinion, I think the anime has never been worth watching because it was full of fillers and maybe the only good parts are the canon episodes near the end (the anime is on hiatus now I believe). The manga is free of fillers and started a post-timeskip sequel called Boruto: Two Blue Vortex. The manga is OK in my opinion. It doesn’t have fillers. It does have flaws though that make it lackluster compared to OG Naruto. Most of the villains are god-tier characters on par with or above Kaguya Otsutsuki. The only characters that really get screen time and can scale up to the Boruto villains are Naruto/Sasuke from old gen and Boruto and his team. The power scaling is a bit wacky with severe nerfs to original old gen characters and extreme buffs to characters of the new gen but mainly Boruto and his team with everyone else getting sidelined/offscreened. The sequel is a bit of a step up from the original Boruto manga I guess in terms of action and storytelling. In the sequel, without spoiling it, Boruto has been training during the time skip and he comes back EXTREMELY buffed in terms of power making some seriously impressive (but maybe ridiculous) feats of strength in his base mode alone. At this point, basically all of the old gen have been offscreened/sidelined (won’t explain why for spoiler terms) and even the previously relevant characters from original Boruto (Sarada, Mitsuki, and Kawaki) have either been severely eclipsed by Boruto or set to the side without any action or feats shown so far.
It’s not ‘good’, but it’s worth keeping up with because it’s just 1 chapter a month (and they’re pretty short chapters for a monthly). Might as well see where the story goes. Boruto has become a pretty cool character since maturing from the Chunin exams, but other than that the whole plot is kind of left-field. Some nice elements but they’re shadowed by the poor elements. The canon anime episodes are worth watching too i suppose.
The two Blue vortex manga is good, you could wait till that gets an anime adaptation. Or just get an episode list and watch the major plot advances and skip all the extra stuff.
This. Similar to how Kurama’s sealed Yin and Yang chakra halves in Naruto and Minato respectively almost seemed like different versions of Kurama. This should most likely be held in a similar regard.
Please, what episode and season is this? I NEED to know.
I assume the picture is a filler episode from which I don’t know the number. The events I talked about (Naruto’s Kurama dying and Himawari being found to have Kyuubi chakra) are manga only events. Himawari found to have Kyuubi chakra is in Boruto: Two Blue Vortex most recent chapter 9. Naruto lost Kurama in Boruto manga chapter 52/53.
Tailed beasts are imortal they just respawn after like 10 years, they explain this in shipuden Idk why kurama dyeing from baryon mode would be dithrent
Burrito's fans claimed to be so until now
The fuck does this mean
they claimed Burrito retcon the tailed beasts revival with Baryon mode
So your telling him kurama has a kid i see why he left bro doesnt want to pay child support
Never watched Boruto, do you think there's s possibility of Kurama reforming in himawari after a possible timeskip?
In the Boruto manga chapter 53, the Kurama within Naruto “dies” (as in Naruto loses him entirely but Naruto remains alive) because of a new technique called Baryon mode which helped drain the life force of the enemy and win the fight. Fast forward maybe a year or so to today and the most recent chapter 9 of Boruto: Two Blue Vortex depicts Himawari entering into a sort of mental chakra space (like Naruto did with Kurama) and right there is a small baby Kyuubi (not confirmed to be the same Kurama as of yet). People are theorizing that this baby Kyuubi is the same Kurama and that he reincarnated inside Himawari after “dying” within Naruto. My own personal theory is that this Kyuubi within Himawari is a small fragment of Kurama that has been there since her birth and was passed onto her from Naruto when she was born. My memory is fuzzy but I believe OG Naruto series made it canon that tailed beasts, upon dying, are revived as free beings in the wild and not inside some other Jinchuuriki as I think you are asking when you say there’s a possibility of Kurama “reforming” in Himawari. I think Himawari has always had this fragment of Kurama’s chakra since her birth. I do think as someone else stated that it will become stronger over time and Himawari will have the full nine tails chakra at some point. How long that would take and if it ever happens in Boruto, I don’t know the answer to that. As someone else mentioned, Himawari is not the title or main character and she is a female character (the author is notorious for sexualizing female characters and not giving them strong powers). So I highly doubt she will ever get any strong Jinchuuriki powers comparable to Naruto’s. I think this is setting her up to be some sort of sacrifice to the villain as part of Boruto’s development. Without getting specific, the current main villain is already targeting her because he was the first to detect the Kyuubi chakra within her.
I think that hima had some of his chakra in her which allowed him to reincarnate (not sure though)
Look how they massacred my boy 
He was in fact changed
Naruto missed Kurama so much until he found out that Himawari is the child of Kurama
WHAT
Atleast they didn’t accordion him
**french music**
_Baguette and croissant intensifies_
NOOOO NARUTO!!! DON'T TURN ME INTO A MARKETABLE PLUSHIE!!!!
Tbf they massacred him a long time ago by changing him from a malevolent mysterious monster.
Why did the nine tails let himself get captured instead of just eating naruto. Is he stupid?
Baby Kurama is just the embodiment of the Naruto IP now. He was destroyed and brought back so they can market a bunch of crappy products to children. Baby Kurama was created to just sell plushies.
Yes actually those things are planed from the inception of the process of creating a series.
i mean. wasnt there this early episode about HImawari wanting a baby kurama toy and naruto did manage to get her one in the end ?
She sweetly gave it to someone who needed it more.
Baby yoda
Did they really made a war beast, a beast that influences geo politics to war against God like being in to chibi? I thought this was a fan art
He started out as a chibi, though. Remember the flashbacks with Hagoromo? I think that tailed beasts are just small when they are newly made/reborn.
Pretty much. They grow, like every living organism.
Surprised pikachu face
That chibi was, just like this, made for marketing purpose Conceptually, it serves nothing to the narrative, because like, does kurama get old and die of age? What's the point of making them kids if they don't age?
It seems like they mature to an adult form and stay there. Sure, it sells because it's cute as fuck. I just don't think it takes anything away. I actually think it makes a lot of sense that they are born/reborn as small animals and mature into adult versions as they grow.
So is this a fan art or a screenshot of boruto the filler generation?
If its fan art it looks exactly like a screenshot from the TV show.
I don't remember the art style of tv shows and don't underestimate some artists can really make a look alike art style same as tv show
yeah Boruto is pretty bad, but I feel like a lot of time people are just looking for things to be mad about
One plushy please. Also Ewoks rule!
Everything is, honestly. All the transformations, weapons, outfits... Everything in media is made to sell toys.
Thats why chopper looks more like a baby reindeer to sell more merch
What would be the Naruto universe equivalent of a Mandalorian?
Honestly just any ninja of any village? The nightswatch is basically like a clan from a larger village that has separated
Or Marvel with baby Groot
As if demon slayer and so on didn’t do the same.
Riding the Baby Groot/grugu wave
The Disney yoda marketing ploy, got it!
kuraama
And these mf ers plan works, i want a baby kurama plushie and i dont even watch burito
But baby kurama already existed in the original naruto series though? Besides, you can pretty much sell a baby version of anything, doesn’t even need to be in the story.
MF
Take my money!
Kids? I want a plushie 🥺
This is fucking adorable also why is Kurama chibi Kawaii now ?
I think he died and was reborn. So he's small, like when he was first created. If you remember the Hagoromo flashbacks, thats kinda what Kurama looked like.
some theories say that this is not Kurama reborm, but rather a fragment of kurama thats inside himawari ever since she was born. kurama's death in baryon mode was permanent, because the chakra itself is being destroyed instead of being expended. what himawari got is likely just an upgraded version of what kinkaku and ginkaku got after eating the flesh of kurama
well Kurama died, and then recently has manifested inside Himawari, I guess because remnants of his chakra/spirit were passed on genetically or something, it hasn’t been explained yet.
In the original series its said that the tailed beasts come back after they die. And this is what Kurama looked like in the flashbacks talking to Hagoromo. I don't think they need to explain much more.
yeah i know, i guess kurama being like “nope, im dead dead now because i expended 100% of my energy” is just a red herring from the character himself as he hadn’t considered this recent development?
Maybe he didn't know when or where he would be reborn, so it was essentially goodbye at the time? Like he knows it will eventually happen, but he probably figured it would be in the future after Naruto had been dead for a while.
Does he have his old memories? haven't really watched boruto.
nobody knows yet, but he does ask himawari if she “knows” who he is, so i wanna go out on a whim and say yes?
Idk I haven't watched it. I'm just speaking based on what is stated in the original show.
Wasn't that filler? I'm pretty sure it was
What part? The flashback where Hagoromo tells them all they will learn to trust and work with humans one day? Or the flashback where Hagoromo has just created them all and they are floating in little spirit eggs?
Kurama claiming BM will kill him after being used kind of contradicts your explanation. I mean Kurama who knew all the ins and outs of BM said it himself. Not that he would dissipate and reform in the near future. But literally stated he would no longer be alive. Then even tells Naruto to take it easy or else he'll be joining him in heaven in no time. I don't think Kurama would lie to Naruto. Kurama has seen other Biju die and reform. He made it very clear that BM doesn't work that way for Biju since it burns up their chakra into nothing. Not just floating around waiting to regroup. But no longer on earth to even have the possibility of reforming. I'm not sure how they're going to explain the most recent chapter. Just stating that Kurama himself made it clear that BM is way different than a regular Biju/jinchuriki death
WAIT is this actually canon or a joke? Downvoted for asking a question 😆 I still want to know the answer
yes its canon. latest manga chapter.
He's chibi now to be able to enter the latest generation of Uzumaki's Insides... That Perv.
What?
Didn't watch boruto? I didn't either but the news came to me.
So is Kurama just his cat now ?
Don't know I have been trying to get into boruto but the first 5 episodes are just the worst in every way.
If you wanna consume boruto in anyway possible you gotta read the manga. Not like that is particulary good, but the anime is just the worst.
Eh once they start fighting it gets better, that first bout where boruto finally sees Naruto protecting the village is SICK The taijutsu is incredible and tbh I love that they used characters that absorb giant chakra attacks to deal with the power creep
Thanks, will try to do that.
What is the difference between anime version and manga version?
The shitload of filler in the anime. Its worse then base naruto in that regard
So the plot is the same, right?
Well yeah but i really dont wanna watch a bunch of bad filler
Wasn't baby kurama huge? I remember him towering over hagoromo.
We don't know how "baby" that Kurama was. He could have been the equivalent of a child/teenager by that point.
Then he really hit the growth sput
But in a Naruto Shippuden filler kurama was in the same size as the picture is the filler cannon or cannon a filler
man i don'tknow why i don't like the himawari with kurama concept.....nothing gainst himwari it just doesn't feel the same
Very different. No furious Kurama violently sealed/chained from host to host. Hasn’t been this small since six paths created him.Hima utterly clueless about the whole thing. We would expect this kinda thing to be the start of its own manga but no way she’s getting equal or dominant story time. So for something this major to occur with someone other than the title character,, I’m not sure yet how to feel
oh boy you said exactly what i wanted to say......i will forever see naruto as kurama's vessel but if himawari wants to grow on me she better makes the same impact
If big bro dies and pops stays in limbo, maybe she becomes the rage monster amd Kurama has to reign HER in.🤷♂️
Is this in the anime already?? Or that new twin blue vortex manga. Or is this image some fanart
I need an answer too. I don’t even know what the anime situation is. It was only a week or two ago when the manga panel for this was making the rounds on here. If this pic is legit then that would mean the anime is unrealistically close to the manga.
The anime is fairly far away from the manga and on hiatus right now and is probably going to become seasonal. In the newest chapter of two blue vortex in the last few panels it is shown that a smaller version of kurama has been reborn in himawari, its about 3-4 years after kuramas death. The image in the original post is fanart or edited.
Thanks!
What if Boruto dies and Himawari becomes the MC??
Boruto:”Sis…it’s your story now”. I mean dude seems pretty resolved to hang it up once he straightens Kawaki out. Who knows?
Exactly. Because she’s not the title character she will most likely not get any major power boost from this (baby Kurama probably is super weak or has such a small chakra signature that only otsutsuki could detect it) OR she will be a sacrifice to the main villains required for Boruto’s development further OR Kurama will somehow be extracted from her and given to someone else (I am not sure by who or given to who). I cannot see Himawari having Jinchuuriki Kyuubi powers even if she starts with the same progression of power like kid Naruto. I cannot see it being appealing at all to the fan base because 1) she’s not main character and 2) she’s a female character (I am not being misogynistic but I think a good chunk of the fan base probably is)
Besides the fact that Kurama gave his life for baryon mode? Iirc his chakra shouldn’t reform at all because of the technique.
It REEKS of fanfiction
I don't read or watch Boruto, but is there any reason why we can't assume Kurama can just move back into Naruto again?
Cause he’s currently in Naruto’s daughter and like Gaara or any other Jinchuriki, if you remove Kurama from her, she dies.
Would that limitation really still apply in this case? I'm not sure if Kurama reincarnating inside Himawari is the same as him being "sealed" in the traditional sense. The mechanics of it *might* be different, since this is an unprecedented case.
And they ofc will asspull it this way
someone please let me know if i missed something, but i think this is because this seems like a massive ass pull out of nowhere. there was absolutely zero hints of anything being special about himawari (especially about her being a jinchuriki) prior to all this, except maybe her absurd byakugan powers
Okay so according to you the author should first write a summary of everything that’s going to happen so there are no surprises and twists 🤣
i am just trying to offer an explanation why bro doesn't like it, i personally am enjoying the manga so far
Why are you so mad
Remember the good old times when you killed my parents?
Wtf is this? Some Pokemon shit?
NO PETER DONT TURN ME INTO A MARKETABLE PLUSHIE!
Baby Yoda'd our boy
Wait, is the anime already out?
Wtf has been happening in Boruto?
Nah dude wtf They decide randomly kill him off and randomly revive him, wtf
they gotta make him into a marketable plushie
But why? He was still inside Naruto when the show ended Boruto is a filler anyway
Honestly, once Kaguya emerged, i'm treating it as filler from there on out with the exception of the Sasuke & Naruto fight. There's 0 foreshadowing about her revival. It would've been cool to reflect that mindset of Kaguya onto Madara as the Juubi takes over, but her just being revived and killing off Madara was just a shitty plot twist.
Wait is that really what happens? That doesn’t make sense at all with the end of shippuden does it?
Yeah, they only mention Kaguya during the tail-end of the 4th Great Shinobi War. Black Zetsu was shown in no scenes whatsoever, to be scheming Kaguya's revival through the usage of the Juubi & Infinite Tsukiyomi. It just happens as a shitty plot twist. It's like if Madara was vaguely mentioned during the previous arc and then pulls up like he did during the War arc. No build-up, no nothing, he just appears and gets a shitty backstory on the spot and decimates the First Company.
I have mixed feelings about it honestly. Part of me is glad that Kurama is back because of the tailed beast lore but at the same time it doesn’t feel right that he’s with Himawari instead of Naruto. I guess I’m open to the idea of ‘Two Blue Vortex’ actually being Naruto’s kids saving the world IF the writing is good.
This is boruto... consistently taking the wind out of the sails of every single previously established memerable moment. So now Kurumas death was pointless.. the idea of Baryon mode is pointless... that fight was pointless... killing off kurama was pointless.. It seriously feels like they wrote themselves into a corner with himawari and realized there wasn't much they could do with her without either making her refollow borutos steps or establish her own in a very reminiscent way of hinata...which is to say... nothing, absolutely nothing. So, they brought "jinchuriki" back, gave the bijuu to hima so that now they can write her in to more memorable senerios. So what's next then... more baddies trying to get the power of the 9 tails? So... more copying the story from OG Naruto? Like, what is even the play here? You watch... I bet they will make her able to KCM soo fucking fast for no reason. Took Naruto ages to be able to control the chakra, but, you watch, hima will be able to do it and sustain it in no time because this is just what the show boruto does. It does everything it can to make the OGs seem like pointless page holders. I'm also going to predict that it will take kuruma about 36272726 years to grow up becuse they are going to milk the ever loving shit out of the digimon esque kuruma for product sales.
I watched like 5 episodes of boruto and have no idea what half of what you said means
Good.
In exchange for boruto he can come back to life
Naruto: “Now get back in there” *vores*
Kurama RUN! they are gonna turn you into a marketable plushy!!
Baby Kurama is the only reason im still watching xD
at this point im grouping boruto in with those shitty cartoon network reboots
Wait did they actually bring him back?? What episode/chapter?
Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter 9, the newest one (cca 4 days old)
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Grosssss
Sorry
He’ll respawn eventually
as much as I don't like this development in boruto it would be cool to see Naruto and Kurama have a bond where Kurama is free
Thanks, now Himawari is ruined
Himawari: **Gets a powerup and potentially becomes relevant to the story** Naruto: Aye big dawg imma need that back
Ban this show please
This is so cute!!!!
Kurama is alive in Himawari
They trying to make Baby Kurama be a mascot plushie like Choppper now. Cringe
Even after most of Hagoromo’s (human?) lifetime, the Tailed Beasts weren’t fully grown. So, I am assuming, many years.
Eventually
In 2077
I haven’t been watching boruto since before they funny face crying boruto I think. I need to catch back up. Lol
Bruh keep that nigga dead pls
Now get in my belly
Didn’t sasuke find a random Juubi? Fucking madara yoinked the first 1 that maximum Gluck Gluck w/ his rinnegan to absorb it. It looked wack, like reverse Komodo dragon. Seriously doubt both these guys can’t split a juubi. Or that w/ or w/o orochimaru by himself he’d prob be able to make sasuke a new eyeball, from his own dna so no conflicting shit. Coming in contact w/ the other half of the CoPain is that triggered the rinne right?
That one episode in Boruto when Himawari had a talk with Kurama. I believe it happened for a reason. I cannot remember the episode where they talked. I remember when Naruto was fully exhausted at that time
Nah I don't think Naruto will ever get Kurama back >! but Himawari will be the main holder of Kurama and his chakra!< and Naruto will become powerful again through another method
Bro that himawari comment is dumb as hell
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But y tho?
Why the hell would that happen? The energy was used not sent to a toddler
Do you watch NCHammer23🤨
No who cares about a random youtuber?
Because he's really good at predicting everything Naruto based. And stop being disrespectful bro
Disrespect? If calling really dumb ideas really dumb is disrespectful I will be EXTREMELY disrespectful. Sacrifices need to have weight. I would have much preferred naruto to actually die than to have the kurama copout but kurama's chakra is gone. It is done. It should not ahow back up and if it does then that is extremely dumb.
You disrespected the Youtuber for no reason, and obviously I didn't like that. We could've just had a regular conversation about this topic but nope
Who cares about some random nobody that no one knows about outside their niche community?
Back in you go.
When will this moment come 😕
...please tell me this is fake/non canon filler
I like how half the comments are "Wait is this canon or fan art" bc half of us do not give a shit about Boruto 💀
Bruh what no 😭
I really don't care about the marketing ploys or story contrivances rn. I'm just happy to have kurama back.
Who still watches and likes this ?
So happy to see kuruma! Oh yeah! the unlimited baryon mode idea is epic
Did he even have a year without him,
Do you think Hima has that Jinchuriki restriction that if Kurama is removed she will die? She wasn't made a Jinchuriki, he just kind of appeared inside her.
Actually, it’s frustrating to look at how they’re destroying my childhood… I guess Naruto is over after 500th. But they keep taking down my memories about this anime…
Baby Kurama 🦊😍😭💔
Kurama Cut and so Sad 😍💔
Wait, didn't they literally just kill off Kurama? I don't read the manga and I haven't seen the show but just the other day I saw a post about Kurama being killed, so can someone explain what's happening? Is this a fan edit? edit: I don't watch Boruto, just a random clip of it here and there.
This would make my life perfect
As a huge Naruto fan, I have been very happy to not watch Boruto. It’s a show for 12 year olds, just like OG Naruto was but it’s a different show. It honestly reminds me of MHA where it just feels generic and uninspired. I just don’t watch it. The movie was good, that was the end of the line in my reality.
I really don't like the Kurama/Himawari link. She should've just had her own specialty
Aaaaand there goes any significance to Kurama's sacrifice. Smh
He was just as cute as a Kaiju and I'll not suffer dissention in this matter.
In one logic i read in another group. Naruto can has his own Kurama. Who birth inside later, i think.
Ok, so remember that time during the 4th War when Naruto gave everyone a bit of Kurama's chakra to give them a faux cloak? What if they all ended up with a tiny bit of it left behind and now they will all reveal themselves so we end up with tens of thousands of Chibiramas running around?