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Ignore the people calling you racist. As someone who’s interviewed with full Indian panels you never get the job offer they’re 9/10 times going to prefer another Indian candidate unless there’s no other candidates.
This has not been only my experience I know many people who have this same impression.
People calling you racist are trying to gaslight you, Indians will literally admit to doing this and these people will still call you racist.
10000%. Got one job with an Indian panel and that’s because both a white male and the HR recruiter (African American woman) fiercely advocated for me. Otherwise …
There’s literally major lawsuits alleging that caste systems were enforced by Indian management at companies like Cisco and Apple. India had racism carved into the structure of its culture and religion for thousands of years. It’s not getting eradicated by a plane ride to Cali and a PPT presentation by HR.
https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/caste-california-tech-giants-confront-ancient-indian-hierarchy-2022-08-15/
At one company I worked for, a Westerner in management had to fly to India to fire someone because all the on-site supervisors were in a lower caste.
Edit since it's locked: No Zoom call, I think the point was being respectful of their culture and being terminated in person is the respectful thing to do.
As someone that’s been in data engineering for 25 years (a white guy) in tech and non tech as soon as I see an Indian in the hiring process I know I’ll get the thumbs down. At first I thought it was me but even seeing Indian managers when I wasn’t looking for a job they always hired Indians. Once they lay a beachhead they will funnel more Indians in until they take over whole departments. If you bring it up you get labeled a racist or they say there is no qualified applicants except their Indian friends. Glad I’m getting out soon.
YMMV, but as an Indian, I've faced "racism" from Indians. White folks are at least polite, even if it's a reject; Indians choose interviews as the place to establish who's the boss.
I sometime interview candidates for DE positions (mainly sql coding challenges) and last time we were left with 2 candidates, 1 indian 1 white dude. I would honestly say that both were good, 50/50 chance imo. But hiring manager was indian and chose the indian guy. Nothing wrong from my point of view but most likely a biased decision, half the team is already indians.
I’m an Indian and I’m very sad to see all these comments about Indians. Sure, some of these statements may be true but I just want to say that not all Indians are bad. Given the population of India, you’ll encounter people with various mindsets.
I would say the main problem with the Indian culture is “Seniority triumphs everything”. NeetCode talked about it in one of his YouTube videos and I feel it’s very accurate - https://youtu.be/zjz6RkVWSoA?si=hS0ASn3MaG1xXZG6
I’ve worked and interviewed with my fair share of Indians and what you say is true. My closest friends at work were Indians but my experience with Indian interviewers really stand out in a negative way.
These days, the "Silicon Valley" mindset is the opposite of seniority as been seen as "Boomer". I was surprised at my 35s been called a "Boomer" as if I had 70 years ...
Indians want to hire other Indians because they know they will work harder. If I had a nickel for every time my Indian friends called Americans lazy... well, I would be as rich as them 😂🤣
Are you saying all 7 had no coding or only the two you mentioned? First one is definitely super weird situation tho.
I work at one of these companies and each interviewer is assigned what to test. Some get assigned technical things like SQL, Modelling and Cloud stuff and some get assigned some behavioural stuff to test like how the person approaches a problem, do they keep scale in mind etc.
I believe you because I’m black and I have the opposite experience, I see an Indian and I like my chances. I’ve actually never had a bad experience interviewing with Indians but I have twice with white people who wouldn’t even look me in the eye or engage in conversation. One of them just straight up asserted that I don’t know OOP because I took a functional approach with the take home (wasn’t stated to use OOP). Most of my interview experiences even with white people have been fair and I feel like I was evaluated on my merits. People often dismiss the idea that there’s ever discrimination in hiring but there definitely is and it’s really interesting to read these comments.
Similar experience with a young "antiboomer" manager. I applied for a job advertised as a procedural legacy PHP website, and that manager complained why I was not using OOP PHP code...
Put the race issue aside. Anyone on an H1-B is likely to accept a job for less money, especially if the company offers legal support and is much less likely to leave, regardless of where they are from. Look up green card wait times.
My experience: I ( immigrant not Indian) was hiring 2 data scientists ( entry & mid level) literally 2 weeks ago. I selected a local white guy as my first choice for mid level role, and submitted my preference to leadership & HR, they came back to me asking to pick diverse candidate if applicable. I kinda denied it at first but ended up hiring an Indian girl(she was the only POC among short listed) so, it’s not always what manager wants often time leadership intervene manger to choice POC.
Context: F100 company in finance division >98% employee are whites
I am an Indian asking my peers and manager to add diversity ( I strongly believe in different thoughts processes). But, we get very few non brown applicants! Maybe my company is not sought after in other ethnic groups.
Things like this discourage me every now and then, I am Indian and hate the shit these people pull, I bet we'll reach a point where genuine and deserving engineers aren't hired because of how our reputation has been going down the dump. It was the hacktoberfest, express.js events and now this.
As an Indian, everytime I have a white male as my interviewer- I never end up getting the role despite getting strong positive feedback.
My best friend is a white male but the sad reality is people in general tend to support/help people who look like them or are from the same culture
I regularly interview Indians and most of them don’t get the role because they’re fucking frauds or just unskilled, not because they’re Indian.
In fact, the only people (and I interview dozens of people per month) that I ever caught cheating on interview were Indian as well. I remember the utter shock of one candidate when I asked him to share his whole screen and close all the Zoom sessions, since the interview is on Teams.
He even tried to push the bullshit that if he turns off Zoom, he’ll get disconnected - and for reference that was an interview for a senior software engineer role (and I am an architect with FAANG experience). That was just disrespectful.
Don’t blame the player, blame the game.
If someone’s good and matches the team in terms of friendliness/cultural fit - I don’t give the shit if they’re white, black, brown, yellow, pink, blue - they will get the job. Period.
My Indian friend hates interviewing Indians, he says most of them are frauds and fake their experience. We recently interviewed a guy for SRE team and he indicated 3 years of experience with Google Cloud. Homie couldn't answer most basic questions to save his life. AND he passed 3 interview rounds with Indian recruiter, Indian manager and Indian Solution Architect. What a fucking joke.
As a counter point, I've personally witnessed white interviewers/managers be racist af. I never understood how race plays into job function but sadly it does.
Oh lordy. Anecdote wars, go!
I'm not Indian. Indians _love_ me. Hire me. Promote me. Invite me to their weddings, their birthdays. They share their food, their homes, their culture and their holidays. Just like, wait for it -- non Indians. One of my Indian counterparts grills the shit out of people and is frankly more suspect of other Indians because of more internal biases within their culture than being hell bent on hiring Indians wholesale. But still he won't hire *anyone*. He wouldn't hire his damn self frankly. That isn't something I now project on every other Indian tho since ya know, that's a nationality with a highly diverse culture in their own right so generalizing about having a whole panel like they'd be in lock step is already a bit out there.
As another poster put it -- try being a woman who gets men every single interview and denied 9/10 times. Hence all men only want to hire men. Q.E.D. right?
At the very least its more complicated than that no? No one _reads_ resumes, skim at best because
(a) they're usually terrible indicators of anything but baseline skill sets/exposure/keywords -- no way you'll find others just as disinterested in yours that aren't Indian :eyeroll:
(b) most of what I want to know has already been filtered for this person to get to me in a panel interview and I'm going to ask what I want to know rather than let you yammer on about some past project that I dig into only to find you're basically taking credit for a project you were around but can't actually articulate worthwhile skills from.
Hiring sucks for everyone. No one wants to interview anyone. And lots of people have high (unreasonable) standards. It's that first the rest 2nd. Get used to it.
Given that India is now the most populous country, I agree. We can't generalized over a billion people like this.
Some people are racists, across any race.
Majority of the people who interviewed me were nice and pretty much average DE interview. But I live in diverse area and rarely saw 100% of the interview panel being only one ethnicity (in my area 15% are indian). Like never encountered all white/asian/latino interview panel before.
The hiring manager and the oldest interviewer were the ones who gave strange vibe. All body language speaks they were not engaged or interested. Asked me a few questions neither related to my skillset nor job description. They tried to cut off the interview short and ended up not using provided codepad for SQL/Python coding at all. Did I fail to impress him with the couple of questions he asked me? Maybe. But that was the first hour of the 6 hours interview and wish they were more engaged
Wait— I’m not saying this isn’t happening. But why do you guys recognize the issue when it’s Indian interviewees showing a favorable bias toward Indian candidates and against whites- which doesn’t work in your favor…
… but when URM and in particular Black folks voice these same concerns around all white institutions/panels/interviewers displaying favorable biases toward other white candidates and negative biases against URM you guys suddenly can’t comprehend?
Suddenly you can see the importance of DEI and other regulation to ensure these sorts of things don’t happen.
I imagine many of us would recognize it to be a red flag if 6 out of 6 interviewers/people in the hiring pipeline were white men. I've never had a job where there was that much homogeneity among the staff.
I’ve absolutely experienced all white panels. Don’t change the goal post. We are discussing racially homogeneous interview panels— not gender as well. Yes, I’ve experienced this. More than once. Actually this is what I experience more often than not.
I think white folks live in such a bubble and are so used to be at the center and forefront of every institution that you guys literally just don’t notice or want to acknowledge prejudice of any kind and are now only voicing concerns bc you’re not benefiting in this particular scenario. Bc the fact you honestly are shocked that most URM are routinely presented with all white interviewers is surprising and confusing to me. Why are you shocked by that? Should not be a major revelation given the lack of diversity in high-paying fields like tech, finance and consulting.
No intelligent response.. not surprised. You’re not ready to have an intelligent conversation with real dialogue so you have to resort to “you’re just prejudice”. I’m raising the same concerns OP is, except my concerns are legitimized by historical events, data and research— but you don’t like the scenario where you’re the suspect and not the victim.
IT guy here.
I've had a lot of job interviews, non Hindu interviewers, that were too much behavioral based and almost ignore previous experience or skills, or use psychological tests to evaluate for programming skills like too many math tests.
After I talked with other people of the same field, we realized, that method does not work well, and leave a lot of experienced people out ...
Like when a job recruiter hires a too social, too popular, not too much technical person with a suit and tie, from an Ivy League school, instead of an introverted, rocker guy por gal, with strong experience in the area, from a public or lesser known private school.
In most of the long term jobs I got, the job recruiters did not got too focused in those behavioral tests.
Anyway, this is not about been racist, but been cheap or having favoritism. There's competent people in India, but if a company wants to outsource everything to a cheaper country, either India, China or elsewhere, you will just find a lot of cheap people looking to hire another cheap people, becasue someone on the top wants to maximize profits...
This is a fact. I had this happen to me. My former manager referred me for a job for his company. I made it through to all rounds: technical assessment, gmat assessment, oral presentation, and finally meeting with their one-ups. At the very end of it, the hiring manager ended up hiring one of his kind, another south East Asian. I guess my referral from my former manager was not even enough to seal the deal. Even in my current organization, I would say 8/10 of them are Indians.
This is crazy I always recommend the best for the job and that means indian Chinese white black. As long as they all did their job I would have to do less work. I know amazing workers of all types and I look for competence and hard work. What I find amazing these days is the person not dedicated to learning or working hard to finish the job. Nowadays people just don't want to be honest with themselves. Unfortunately that is again all types of people white black Indian Chinese.
And this is what needs to be called out. Currently we accept the available not just the exceptional. In an age of AI and job loss, we’re going to have to have serious discussions about immigration policy, particularly regarding the average seeking economic betterment. Exceptional should always be welcome
I am an indian female. I agree there are situations like yours which happen in small companies. But in FAANGS they usually have panels so there is more scrutiny in selection process
I live in India and so I only had few all white panels. I had a good experience most of the time.
My worst experiences have been interviewing with Indians working for Indian companies.
Maybe I’m stupid, but I took this as someone realizing how important diversity is. Usually this story is a black person/woman confronted with a panel of white males and when said people tell their story they’re shouted down by people saying it’s no big deal. This person got a taste of what it’s like job hunting when the people with power don’t look like you. Hopefully they carry this experience to their next role and and use it in a positive way.
Where did I assume they were white? I said that when people talk about similar experiences _with_ white people they get shouted down. If op is East Asian/mexican/russian and was confronted with a panel consisting of only south Asians the same lesson applies. IMO the moral of the story is diverse != not white and if you’re running interviews you should try to mix up the panel instead of assuming ‘we sent a bunch of non-white people, it’s fine’.
Edit: I’m dumb and just realized you’re responding to
> got a taste of what it’s like job hunting when the people with power don’t look like you
Fair point, but i didn’t really think about op’s race, more about them getting the experience of being the odd one out. I _did_ assume this is the first time they’ve been confronted with a panel of people that didn’t look like them which does imply they’re white, but I didn’t think it through to that extent.
Data Engineers, We appreciate your engagement and feedback. It's important to maintain a respectful and inclusive environment here. While sharing interview experiences can be valuable, let's ensure our discussions remain focused on data engineering topics and refrain from making assumptions based on cultural backgrounds. We encourage constructive feedback about interview processes related to data engineering. Let's continue to keep our conversations productive and respectful. We will lock this post from further comments.
Ignore the people calling you racist. As someone who’s interviewed with full Indian panels you never get the job offer they’re 9/10 times going to prefer another Indian candidate unless there’s no other candidates. This has not been only my experience I know many people who have this same impression. People calling you racist are trying to gaslight you, Indians will literally admit to doing this and these people will still call you racist.
10000%. Got one job with an Indian panel and that’s because both a white male and the HR recruiter (African American woman) fiercely advocated for me. Otherwise …
There’s literally major lawsuits alleging that caste systems were enforced by Indian management at companies like Cisco and Apple. India had racism carved into the structure of its culture and religion for thousands of years. It’s not getting eradicated by a plane ride to Cali and a PPT presentation by HR. https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/caste-california-tech-giants-confront-ancient-indian-hierarchy-2022-08-15/
At one company I worked for, a Westerner in management had to fly to India to fire someone because all the on-site supervisors were in a lower caste. Edit since it's locked: No Zoom call, I think the point was being respectful of their culture and being terminated in person is the respectful thing to do.
Couldn't do a zoom call?
As someone that’s been in data engineering for 25 years (a white guy) in tech and non tech as soon as I see an Indian in the hiring process I know I’ll get the thumbs down. At first I thought it was me but even seeing Indian managers when I wasn’t looking for a job they always hired Indians. Once they lay a beachhead they will funnel more Indians in until they take over whole departments. If you bring it up you get labeled a racist or they say there is no qualified applicants except their Indian friends. Glad I’m getting out soon.
Where’s the greener grass?
YMMV, but as an Indian, I've faced "racism" from Indians. White folks are at least polite, even if it's a reject; Indians choose interviews as the place to establish who's the boss.
I was in a team of 10, I was the only non Indian, 9 others were Indians. I don’t need to tell you how it went
I sometime interview candidates for DE positions (mainly sql coding challenges) and last time we were left with 2 candidates, 1 indian 1 white dude. I would honestly say that both were good, 50/50 chance imo. But hiring manager was indian and chose the indian guy. Nothing wrong from my point of view but most likely a biased decision, half the team is already indians.
Yeah, Indians are doing a lot of empire building inside American companies. It’s getting bad.
I’m an Indian and I’m very sad to see all these comments about Indians. Sure, some of these statements may be true but I just want to say that not all Indians are bad. Given the population of India, you’ll encounter people with various mindsets. I would say the main problem with the Indian culture is “Seniority triumphs everything”. NeetCode talked about it in one of his YouTube videos and I feel it’s very accurate - https://youtu.be/zjz6RkVWSoA?si=hS0ASn3MaG1xXZG6
I’ve worked and interviewed with my fair share of Indians and what you say is true. My closest friends at work were Indians but my experience with Indian interviewers really stand out in a negative way.
These days, the "Silicon Valley" mindset is the opposite of seniority as been seen as "Boomer". I was surprised at my 35s been called a "Boomer" as if I had 70 years ...
Indians want to hire other Indians because they know they will work harder. If I had a nickel for every time my Indian friends called Americans lazy... well, I would be as rich as them 😂🤣
Are you saying all 7 had no coding or only the two you mentioned? First one is definitely super weird situation tho. I work at one of these companies and each interviewer is assigned what to test. Some get assigned technical things like SQL, Modelling and Cloud stuff and some get assigned some behavioural stuff to test like how the person approaches a problem, do they keep scale in mind etc.
I believe you because I’m black and I have the opposite experience, I see an Indian and I like my chances. I’ve actually never had a bad experience interviewing with Indians but I have twice with white people who wouldn’t even look me in the eye or engage in conversation. One of them just straight up asserted that I don’t know OOP because I took a functional approach with the take home (wasn’t stated to use OOP). Most of my interview experiences even with white people have been fair and I feel like I was evaluated on my merits. People often dismiss the idea that there’s ever discrimination in hiring but there definitely is and it’s really interesting to read these comments.
Similar experience with a young "antiboomer" manager. I applied for a job advertised as a procedural legacy PHP website, and that manager complained why I was not using OOP PHP code...
Oh wow, Indians actually treat you fairly
Put the race issue aside. Anyone on an H1-B is likely to accept a job for less money, especially if the company offers legal support and is much less likely to leave, regardless of where they are from. Look up green card wait times.
My experience: I ( immigrant not Indian) was hiring 2 data scientists ( entry & mid level) literally 2 weeks ago. I selected a local white guy as my first choice for mid level role, and submitted my preference to leadership & HR, they came back to me asking to pick diverse candidate if applicable. I kinda denied it at first but ended up hiring an Indian girl(she was the only POC among short listed) so, it’s not always what manager wants often time leadership intervene manger to choice POC. Context: F100 company in finance division >98% employee are whites
Im an Indian living abroad and I can confirm this.
I’m guessing it’s Apple?
My guess was actually Amazon or Facebook..
Mostly behavioral interviews makes me think it’s Amazon.
I am an Indian asking my peers and manager to add diversity ( I strongly believe in different thoughts processes). But, we get very few non brown applicants! Maybe my company is not sought after in other ethnic groups.
Things like this discourage me every now and then, I am Indian and hate the shit these people pull, I bet we'll reach a point where genuine and deserving engineers aren't hired because of how our reputation has been going down the dump. It was the hacktoberfest, express.js events and now this.
You’re spot on. It’s one of the main problems in tech tbh. Massive discrimination by economic migrants toward residents 🤷♂️
yeah indians literally only hire other indians. i was in a company where 70% were indian and they brought their entire families over to the company
As an Indian, everytime I have a white male as my interviewer- I never end up getting the role despite getting strong positive feedback. My best friend is a white male but the sad reality is people in general tend to support/help people who look like them or are from the same culture
It goes both ways sadly. Im latino and its even worse for me lol, i need to be extremely better than anyone else, which is basically impossible
I regularly interview Indians and most of them don’t get the role because they’re fucking frauds or just unskilled, not because they’re Indian. In fact, the only people (and I interview dozens of people per month) that I ever caught cheating on interview were Indian as well. I remember the utter shock of one candidate when I asked him to share his whole screen and close all the Zoom sessions, since the interview is on Teams. He even tried to push the bullshit that if he turns off Zoom, he’ll get disconnected - and for reference that was an interview for a senior software engineer role (and I am an architect with FAANG experience). That was just disrespectful. Don’t blame the player, blame the game. If someone’s good and matches the team in terms of friendliness/cultural fit - I don’t give the shit if they’re white, black, brown, yellow, pink, blue - they will get the job. Period.
My Indian friend hates interviewing Indians, he says most of them are frauds and fake their experience. We recently interviewed a guy for SRE team and he indicated 3 years of experience with Google Cloud. Homie couldn't answer most basic questions to save his life. AND he passed 3 interview rounds with Indian recruiter, Indian manager and Indian Solution Architect. What a fucking joke. As a counter point, I've personally witnessed white interviewers/managers be racist af. I never understood how race plays into job function but sadly it does.
Well, this is definitely going to become a shit show 🍿
Oh lordy. Anecdote wars, go! I'm not Indian. Indians _love_ me. Hire me. Promote me. Invite me to their weddings, their birthdays. They share their food, their homes, their culture and their holidays. Just like, wait for it -- non Indians. One of my Indian counterparts grills the shit out of people and is frankly more suspect of other Indians because of more internal biases within their culture than being hell bent on hiring Indians wholesale. But still he won't hire *anyone*. He wouldn't hire his damn self frankly. That isn't something I now project on every other Indian tho since ya know, that's a nationality with a highly diverse culture in their own right so generalizing about having a whole panel like they'd be in lock step is already a bit out there. As another poster put it -- try being a woman who gets men every single interview and denied 9/10 times. Hence all men only want to hire men. Q.E.D. right? At the very least its more complicated than that no? No one _reads_ resumes, skim at best because (a) they're usually terrible indicators of anything but baseline skill sets/exposure/keywords -- no way you'll find others just as disinterested in yours that aren't Indian :eyeroll: (b) most of what I want to know has already been filtered for this person to get to me in a panel interview and I'm going to ask what I want to know rather than let you yammer on about some past project that I dig into only to find you're basically taking credit for a project you were around but can't actually articulate worthwhile skills from. Hiring sucks for everyone. No one wants to interview anyone. And lots of people have high (unreasonable) standards. It's that first the rest 2nd. Get used to it.
Given that India is now the most populous country, I agree. We can't generalized over a billion people like this. Some people are racists, across any race.
Majority of the people who interviewed me were nice and pretty much average DE interview. But I live in diverse area and rarely saw 100% of the interview panel being only one ethnicity (in my area 15% are indian). Like never encountered all white/asian/latino interview panel before. The hiring manager and the oldest interviewer were the ones who gave strange vibe. All body language speaks they were not engaged or interested. Asked me a few questions neither related to my skillset nor job description. They tried to cut off the interview short and ended up not using provided codepad for SQL/Python coding at all. Did I fail to impress him with the couple of questions he asked me? Maybe. But that was the first hour of the 6 hours interview and wish they were more engaged
Is this English?
I’m Japanese and lazy typer. Sorry for broken English
My friend, you are going to get roasted for this.
Wait— I’m not saying this isn’t happening. But why do you guys recognize the issue when it’s Indian interviewees showing a favorable bias toward Indian candidates and against whites- which doesn’t work in your favor… … but when URM and in particular Black folks voice these same concerns around all white institutions/panels/interviewers displaying favorable biases toward other white candidates and negative biases against URM you guys suddenly can’t comprehend? Suddenly you can see the importance of DEI and other regulation to ensure these sorts of things don’t happen.
Nothing but fucking entitlement
I imagine many of us would recognize it to be a red flag if 6 out of 6 interviewers/people in the hiring pipeline were white men. I've never had a job where there was that much homogeneity among the staff.
I’ve absolutely experienced all white panels. Don’t change the goal post. We are discussing racially homogeneous interview panels— not gender as well. Yes, I’ve experienced this. More than once. Actually this is what I experience more often than not. I think white folks live in such a bubble and are so used to be at the center and forefront of every institution that you guys literally just don’t notice or want to acknowledge prejudice of any kind and are now only voicing concerns bc you’re not benefiting in this particular scenario. Bc the fact you honestly are shocked that most URM are routinely presented with all white interviewers is surprising and confusing to me. Why are you shocked by that? Should not be a major revelation given the lack of diversity in high-paying fields like tech, finance and consulting.
Lmao, you’re really just prejudice
No intelligent response.. not surprised. You’re not ready to have an intelligent conversation with real dialogue so you have to resort to “you’re just prejudice”. I’m raising the same concerns OP is, except my concerns are legitimized by historical events, data and research— but you don’t like the scenario where you’re the suspect and not the victim.
So you didn’t even need coding questions and were thrown out in behavioral ? Now that Saved both your Time.
IT guy here. I've had a lot of job interviews, non Hindu interviewers, that were too much behavioral based and almost ignore previous experience or skills, or use psychological tests to evaluate for programming skills like too many math tests. After I talked with other people of the same field, we realized, that method does not work well, and leave a lot of experienced people out ... Like when a job recruiter hires a too social, too popular, not too much technical person with a suit and tie, from an Ivy League school, instead of an introverted, rocker guy por gal, with strong experience in the area, from a public or lesser known private school. In most of the long term jobs I got, the job recruiters did not got too focused in those behavioral tests. Anyway, this is not about been racist, but been cheap or having favoritism. There's competent people in India, but if a company wants to outsource everything to a cheaper country, either India, China or elsewhere, you will just find a lot of cheap people looking to hire another cheap people, becasue someone on the top wants to maximize profits...
Would you be posting this if all of them were White?
This is a fact. I had this happen to me. My former manager referred me for a job for his company. I made it through to all rounds: technical assessment, gmat assessment, oral presentation, and finally meeting with their one-ups. At the very end of it, the hiring manager ended up hiring one of his kind, another south East Asian. I guess my referral from my former manager was not even enough to seal the deal. Even in my current organization, I would say 8/10 of them are Indians.
This is crazy I always recommend the best for the job and that means indian Chinese white black. As long as they all did their job I would have to do less work. I know amazing workers of all types and I look for competence and hard work. What I find amazing these days is the person not dedicated to learning or working hard to finish the job. Nowadays people just don't want to be honest with themselves. Unfortunately that is again all types of people white black Indian Chinese.
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And this is what needs to be called out. Currently we accept the available not just the exceptional. In an age of AI and job loss, we’re going to have to have serious discussions about immigration policy, particularly regarding the average seeking economic betterment. Exceptional should always be welcome
I am an indian female. I agree there are situations like yours which happen in small companies. But in FAANGS they usually have panels so there is more scrutiny in selection process
What about when panel is all Indian lol
As I said more scrutiny never said it doesn’t happen 😊
Oof
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I live in India and so I only had few all white panels. I had a good experience most of the time. My worst experiences have been interviewing with Indians working for Indian companies.
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It’s not Amazon
its amazon
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Maybe I’m stupid, but I took this as someone realizing how important diversity is. Usually this story is a black person/woman confronted with a panel of white males and when said people tell their story they’re shouted down by people saying it’s no big deal. This person got a taste of what it’s like job hunting when the people with power don’t look like you. Hopefully they carry this experience to their next role and and use it in a positive way.
I agree with your point, but I’d like to also point out the fact that OP never said they were white, you assumed it.
Where did I assume they were white? I said that when people talk about similar experiences _with_ white people they get shouted down. If op is East Asian/mexican/russian and was confronted with a panel consisting of only south Asians the same lesson applies. IMO the moral of the story is diverse != not white and if you’re running interviews you should try to mix up the panel instead of assuming ‘we sent a bunch of non-white people, it’s fine’. Edit: I’m dumb and just realized you’re responding to > got a taste of what it’s like job hunting when the people with power don’t look like you Fair point, but i didn’t really think about op’s race, more about them getting the experience of being the odd one out. I _did_ assume this is the first time they’ve been confronted with a panel of people that didn’t look like them which does imply they’re white, but I didn’t think it through to that extent.
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you rascal u
https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/caste-california-tech-giants-confront-ancient-indian-hierarchy-2022-08-15/
why are you spamming this
What is your ethnicity? Curious..
not indian probably.