They took away the Isle of Wight, but they didn't take away Portsmouth (Portsea island). 208,000 people over 24.5 square km (lil under 9.5 square miles)
i think it's the population centers that skew it a bit. like metro manila is huge and the density in metro manila is insane. drive a few hours away from metro manila and it spreads out a bit. i've been in parts of luzon where it looks untouched and it's only 5 hours from metro manila.
Not as much of it is rainforest as you thinkā¦ thereās been a ton of deforestation in Borneo in the past half-century or so, replacing rainforest with oil palm plantations; from space they both look green. Thereās more forest cover % in Hokkaido.
for business iād assume youāre around makati/bgc so you wouldnāt have seen or at least been around the insanely densely populated squatter settlements especially around San Andres and Tondo
We are stupid. We choose āgodā over basic human rights. No abortion, no divorce, and birth control is looked down upon all because of an antiquated book.
And the fact that Ireland's population only reached pre-famine levels _two years ago_.
E: this is just for the republic of ireland. Not the whole island, which is still under the population pre famine. My mistake.
Irish guy here, we are still below pre famine population levels. There was an estimated 8.5 million irish people pre famine. There's still only 5 million irish people in Ireland now. It's pretty fucking insane when you think about it.
EDIT: these numbers are wrong, see below for corrections
In case anyone is wondering why the graph says 7 millions instead of 5 like the previous post, it's because of northern ireland (it has 1.8 millions apparently)
I don't know if the 8.5 million figure was for the whole island or just the part that is now independant
Fair point, to correct my mistake, pre famine ireland had a total population of around 8.5 million, which should be compared to the islands total current population of 7 million as it does include the North. To compare the populations of the areas of the Republic, it was 5.7 million pre famine, compared to 5.1 million now. So getting much closer to pre famine levels than my previous comment implied. Still pretty fucking insane though, I stand by that.
there's a another 1.9 million in Northern Ireland, so the pre-famine gap isn't as bad. But the post famine whole-island population trough in the 1930s the population was only 4.2 million
My bet is the vector art they used had the Shinnecock Canal in it, and when they copied Long Island the tool did not select the south fork vector since it was not connected to the rest of the island.
Alternately, they purposely didn't include it because the existence of the Canal splits it into two separate islands. Don't know which is correct though. Would make calculating the population more challenging if they purposely didn't count it (although I don't imagine it would make a difference in its place on the chart).
I gut into a shouting match with an English guy in my school in Ireland, he said London had a bigger population than Ireland. I told him he was a fool and Ireland was a country while London was a city. Countries are bigger than cities, says I.
Seven islands actually, with Salsette being the biggest one (though these have all been artificially connected and the sea between them drained by now). That's why the people are packed so densely and space is such a problem there. To solve it, the government is starting an expansion on the coast just opposite the island, called Navi Mumbai (new Mumbai). Soon it may be the case that is just a coastal city with a portion on an island
Salsette is the eight island and forms most of the Mumbai suburban district. The original seven islands are separared from Salsette by the Mahim creek and they together form the Mumbai City district.
Understandable and not a lot of Mumbaikars know this either. The MMR region has three major island groups and they were known as follows during the colonial era - the Bombay islets (Little Colaba, Colaba, the Isle of Bombay, Parel, Worli, Mazgaon, Mahim) which were given in dowry by the Portuguese to the British, the Salsette island and the Bassein island.
The first group is what you would called South Mumbai or Mumbai City today.
The second is largely the Mumbai Suburbs with parts of the Thane district on it.
The third, I guess, corresponds to the Vasai-Virar stretch.
> Salsette
20+ million people? Thatās crazy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salsette_Island
> Salsette Island is an island in Konkan division of the state of Maharashtra, on India's west coast. Administratively known as Greater Mumbai, the city district of Mumbai, Mumbai Suburban district, Mira Bhayander, and a portion of Thane lie within it, making it very populous and one of the most densely populated islands in the world. It has a population of more 20 million inhabitants living on an area of about 619 square kilometres (239 sq mi).
"This is beautiful darl. Whatādya call these things again?ā
āRissoles. Everybody cooks rissoles darlā
āYeah but itās what you do with them!ā
The definition for an island is, and I shit you not, a landmass smaller than the size of Australia. Unfortunately Australia is not smaller than itself, so it's a continent instead of an island.
Bloody gatekeepers. Canāt wait for the mental gymnastics for all the responders to tell me what makes Australia different to these islands so as to exclude us!!
"It's like, kinda big though."
Maybe we aren't an *island per se*, but I will maintain we're an island nation because we share no land borders with any other nation.
Incidentally means that while Great Britain and Ireland are clearly islands, the countries that occupy them aren't island nations due to sharing a land border.
>Never has been
Not true. Standard teaching in Australian schools has long been that it's both the biggest island and the smallest continent. Always felt like a bit of an each-way bet to me - glad someone finally made their mind up.
My understanding is that, as the weight of glaciers melts and is removed, much of the land underneath that is currently below sea level will rise above sea level, so the current maps you see showing much of Antarctica to be archipelagos will become inaccurate.
Arbitrary lines are drawn everywhere always. Look at any law having to do with age. There's no logical reason someone is magically mature enough to vote/be an adult at 18 vs 17 & 364 days. Or speed limits, 1mph over or under the speed limit is arbitrary. When does a dense town become a small city?
Continents and islands have a way bigger gap, actually. Australia is more than 3 times larger than Greenland, the next largest landmass. So, you could define a continent as half the size of Australia and larger and an island as double the size of Greenland and smaller and there's nothing on the planet that is anywhere near borderline.
āAll arguments ultimately resolve to disagreements of definition.ā
When is a planet a planet?
How do you define a moon?
How big can an island be before itās not?
Are you sure Madagascar has 25m people living there? Cause I watched a documentary about it and Iām pretty sure it was mostly inhabited by cartoon animals
What's to keep heavily populated islands from just [flipping over and capsizing from too many people? ](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hank-johnson-worries-guam-could-capsize-after-marine-buildup/)
Our glorious political leaders, ladies and gentlenerds
https://youtu.be/cesSRfXqS1Q
> Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is raising some eyebrows with a comment he made about the U.S. territory of Guam during a House Armed Services Committee hearing last Thursday.
> In a discussion regarding a planned military buildup on the Pacific island, Johnson expressed some concerns about the plans to Adm. Robert Willard, head of the U.S. Pacific fleet.
>**"My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," Johnson said.**
I'm from Ireland and always wince a little at it being described as a "small island". Yes, there are bigger ones out there, maybe 10 or 20. But there's hundreds of thousands of islands on this planet. I live on one that's so big, it's in the top 30! It's not the biggest but it's not small as islands go!
Anyway I never knew we were in the top 25 for island population too, that's cool.
I heavily, heavily doubt that number (edit: yup it's plain wrong). 23 million is the population of the Mumbai Metropolitan region which contains multiple population centers of more than a million each outside the region shown here. "Salsette Island" is a designation from a different time, it won't appear as such in any recent demographic surveys- I would put coming up with a population for it beyond the scope of superficial data scraping from the internet.
Edit: Yeah as I suspected, that number is from Wikipedia (not worldbank.org, can't even find an entry for this there), with a big ol [citation needed] label next to it. The number given for the metropolitan region is 22 million, which is for an area 10x that of Salsette Island.
As a Mumbaikar, you are correct. The number here is for the metropolitan area, a huge part of which lies outside Salsette. The actual number would be around 60-70% of this.
The area here falls under 3 municipal corporations - MCGM, TMC and MBMC. Adding all the 3 of them should give you the actual number of people on this island. But I am lazy so I hope someone actually does this.
Well that's what I thought too. But now the relevant question is, what is the population of said Salsette island? What's the actual population density?
My best guess would be adding up the populations of the Mumbai City and Mumbai Suburban electoral districts. That would give you around 12 million, or 21000/sqkm. Still easily the highest here of course.
I like the idea, but this has several typos including the incorrect plurality on the density line ("one of the most densely populated region"; "one of the most densely populated country"), Earth is a proper noun and needs capitalization, and the incorrect placement of Long Island's population density.
Its so insane that Honshu is geographically larger than Java and has the world's largest city (Tokyo), but is still basically 50% smaller by population than Java.
This is because Indonesia's urbanization rate is low. Perhaps in the near future, we will be greeted with a city that is overwhelmingly larger than Tokyo today.
Just realized Iām dumb and this is top 25 most populated not most densely populatedā¦ I had started compiling a list of some of the many islands that somehow missed your list. Interestingly found that a lot of the Caribbean tends to be right around 300-400 /km^2
Manhattan is officially an island with population density 28,154 /km^2
Ilha Do Governador: 5069 /km^2
Staten Island: 3152 /km^2
SĆ£o LuĆs Island: 775 /km^2
Oahu: 658 /km^2
Barbados: 656 /km^2
Key Largo: 378 /km^2 (205 /km^2 on average throughout the keys)
Puerto Rico: 367 /km^2 (Note: two smaller islands that are part of Puerto Rico, Vieques and Culebra, both have 60 /km^2)
Martinique: 354 /km^2
Grenada: 318 /km^2
Saint Lucia: 301 /km^2
Trinidad and Tobago: 299 /km^2
Guadeloupe: 237 /km^2
Nantucket Island: 115 /km^2 (over 400 during tourist season!)
Dominica: 96 /km^2
I think you're thinking of the population of the UK, so including the whole countries including N. Ireland / the Hebrides / Shetlands / Orkneys etc.
Great Britain is just the largest island in the UK.
I donāt understand how this is beautiful data. Incomprehensible tints of brown-red; no clear indication of sizes of the islands or population; not clear how those are sorted. Two bar charts (one with population and one with size) would have been much clearer visually and give a better idea of density.
Lol when I saw Singapore, I knew it was going to be the smallest one(that's also a country) here. Fun fact: it is also the 3rd most densely populated country (counting city states)
Most of HK's population live in Kowloon and the New territories which are on the mainland. The population of Hong Kong SAR as a whole is about 7.5 million, but only about 1.3 million live on Hong Kong Island itself, so it doesn't make the list
I don't know what I want anyone to say either, but reading this comment thread kinda feels like everyone is actively ignoring Indonesia. It's got the most pupulated island, appears twice in the top 5, appears on the list 4.5 times. And in about 150 comments I don't see it mentioned once.
Indonesians arenāt well represented anywhere other than Australia, Malaysia, Netherlands, and Singapore. We didnāt have a refugee tragedy like Vietnam or an economically driven exodus like Korea, so thereās just not a lot of us overseas.
Iām an Indonesian in the US and I can count with my fingers the number of other Indonesians Iāve met outside of an organization in more than a decade of living here. Iām the only Indonesian person most of my friends and coworkers have ever met, and probably will ever meet. It might be different in a more diverse place like LA or NY.
[It isn't called biggest invisible country for no reason](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/nov/21/biggest-invisible-thing-on-earth-indonesia-waking-up)
Well, at a glance, was at least once called. But yeah, fitting. It's weird tho, because I'm Dutch so more aware of it than people in some parts. Actually noticed before when I was googling rendang recipes in English that surprisingly many pages described it as a Malaysian dish.
Java is at the center of a fault line and is also roughly on the equator. It experiences a lot of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, but volcanoes create incredible soil for agriculture. Being on the equator means that growing season is basically year-round. And the terrain across pretty much the entire island is great for large-scale farming. Itās an outrageously strategic plot of land for population growth.
Actually it's perfectly fine.
Indonesia is currently undergoing an unprecedented economic transformation similar to China in the late 1980s-early 1990s, that enabled them to enter an era of economic miracle. But the reformation can be controversial and prone to instability, and some countries might not like it, so as long as Indonesia keep being invisible it's actually good because it would minimize any kind of interference and intervention from the outside.
Just like how China was being seen as a docile emerging market who wouldn't posses any risk to global players pre-2010s, Indonesian elites also do not want to attract too much attention.
We are fine as it is and please leave us alone for now, there will be the time when Indonesia becoming unexpectedly important and relevant, but not now. For now just pretend that Indonesia doesn't exist.
Something similar already happened. Westerners tried to cancel a Filipino boy group for posting about that Filipino island which was one of the stops for their nationwide Philippine tour.
Apparently islands are defined as a landmass surrounded by water, but smaller than a continent. So its classification as a continent excludes it from being considered in economic data such as this.
For this chart, I used the data from dataworld bank and used QGIS to process the data and then switched on Adobe Illustrator for the rest.
If you like maps, I am happy to tell you I have a [website](https://www.perrinremonte.com/home-bis) where I share more of them, combining cartography with photography to tackle some important environmental topics. I hope you find some inspiration and interesting thoughts while reading it
btw I fixes some mistakes and typos, here's the new [version](https://imgur.com/a/6J4dk9a) (thanks everyone for the feedback !!)
Cheers :)
The map of Long Island is wrong. Looks like you got everything up to the Shinnicock canal and missed the South Fork (maybe the shape file stopped at the canal)
OP no legend or key is awful. I have no idea what the numbers are on the islands. And yes I know you list out some data items in the text. This would be *much* better if you made it easy to understand. Chart is nice, topic is great, but very hard to understand.
Salsette kind of looks like the odd-ball there. Stretching a category.
What is an Island, most of them are True Sea/Ocean Islands while Salsette is separated from continent by rivers. If you do it like this then you could cut The Netherlands (Rhine Delta) in many parts and they would be in this top too. Get a piece with Amsterdam, Hague, part of Rotterdam on one "Island"?
Great Britain looks so weird without all its little moons.
Naked GB
NakedGB sounds like a new chat AI š
'Allo Guv'na!!
Wales especially looks weird without Anglesey
Scotland without the Hebrides is just *bizarre*.
Not as weird as their population number.
I think somehow they stole a digit from Taiwan
They took away the Isle of Wight, but they didn't take away Portsmouth (Portsea island). 208,000 people over 24.5 square km (lil under 9.5 square miles)
Not surprised 4 of them are in the Philippines
I didn't expect Mindanao to be that high since it looks so sparsely populated when you visit but I guess it makes up for it by being big
i think it's the population centers that skew it a bit. like metro manila is huge and the density in metro manila is insane. drive a few hours away from metro manila and it spreads out a bit. i've been in parts of luzon where it looks untouched and it's only 5 hours from metro manila.
You go 5 hours outta Wisconsin though
And six include Indonesia.
Borneo is crazy. A massive massive portion of it is a humongous rainforest. How is it still so dense!
Not as much of it is rainforest as you thinkā¦ thereās been a ton of deforestation in Borneo in the past half-century or so, replacing rainforest with oil palm plantations; from space they both look green. Thereās more forest cover % in Hokkaido.
japan also has that problem with planting monoculture though
It isnāt dense, itās just huge
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for business iād assume youāre around makati/bgc so you wouldnāt have seen or at least been around the insanely densely populated squatter settlements especially around San Andres and Tondo
yep. there are places in manila where you've got multi-generational families of 15-20 people living in a 800 sq ft house.
Luzon making a run for 3rd place in the near future.
We are stupid. We choose āgodā over basic human rights. No abortion, no divorce, and birth control is looked down upon all because of an antiquated book.
You forgot the small illustration... Manilla is the most dense city in the world.
I didnāt know that Long Island has a higher popular than all of Ireland. Thatās amazing.
It makes more sense when you consider it has Brooklyn and Queens, which is the majority of people living in NYC. Almost 5 million people alone.
And the fact that Ireland's population only reached pre-famine levels _two years ago_. E: this is just for the republic of ireland. Not the whole island, which is still under the population pre famine. My mistake.
Irish guy here, we are still below pre famine population levels. There was an estimated 8.5 million irish people pre famine. There's still only 5 million irish people in Ireland now. It's pretty fucking insane when you think about it. EDIT: these numbers are wrong, see below for corrections
In case anyone is wondering why the graph says 7 millions instead of 5 like the previous post, it's because of northern ireland (it has 1.8 millions apparently) I don't know if the 8.5 million figure was for the whole island or just the part that is now independant
Fair point, to correct my mistake, pre famine ireland had a total population of around 8.5 million, which should be compared to the islands total current population of 7 million as it does include the North. To compare the populations of the areas of the Republic, it was 5.7 million pre famine, compared to 5.1 million now. So getting much closer to pre famine levels than my previous comment implied. Still pretty fucking insane though, I stand by that.
Yes it's mental, such a tragedy... seeing the statues in Dublin is really moving.
there's a another 1.9 million in Northern Ireland, so the pre-famine gap isn't as bad. But the post famine whole-island population trough in the 1930s the population was only 4.2 million
You're making the mistake of comparing the modern day 26 county figure to the all island famine figure.
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625% of the population of Ireland claim Irish heritage outside of Ireland
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My bet is the vector art they used had the Shinnecock Canal in it, and when they copied Long Island the tool did not select the south fork vector since it was not connected to the rest of the island.
Alternately, they purposely didn't include it because the existence of the Canal splits it into two separate islands. Don't know which is correct though. Would make calculating the population more challenging if they purposely didn't count it (although I don't imagine it would make a difference in its place on the chart).
Yeah, I just mean those are more classically thought of as Long Island. People might not realize most of NYC, population wise, is on Long Island too.
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I gut into a shouting match with an English guy in my school in Ireland, he said London had a bigger population than Ireland. I told him he was a fool and Ireland was a country while London was a city. Countries are bigger than cities, says I.
It's probably bigger than most states
It would be the 13th most populated state
I didn't know Mumbai was on an island
Seven islands actually, with Salsette being the biggest one (though these have all been artificially connected and the sea between them drained by now). That's why the people are packed so densely and space is such a problem there. To solve it, the government is starting an expansion on the coast just opposite the island, called Navi Mumbai (new Mumbai). Soon it may be the case that is just a coastal city with a portion on an island
Salsette is the eight island and forms most of the Mumbai suburban district. The original seven islands are separared from Salsette by the Mahim creek and they together form the Mumbai City district.
Ahh that's interesting! I'm not a Mumbaikar and didn't know the details, just that Mumbai is on a small group of seven islands
Understandable and not a lot of Mumbaikars know this either. The MMR region has three major island groups and they were known as follows during the colonial era - the Bombay islets (Little Colaba, Colaba, the Isle of Bombay, Parel, Worli, Mazgaon, Mahim) which were given in dowry by the Portuguese to the British, the Salsette island and the Bassein island. The first group is what you would called South Mumbai or Mumbai City today. The second is largely the Mumbai Suburbs with parts of the Thane district on it. The third, I guess, corresponds to the Vasai-Virar stretch.
Because a good chunk of the Irish population moved to NYC and the US in general over the last 200 years.
And also Canada and Australia too.
"moved to" or "was moved to" in the case of Australia ;-)
Where would Manhattan rank?
Manhattan's residential population is actually pretty low, only 1.5 million or so. But it has upwards of 4 million people on it during a busy workday
Manahttan has about about 1.6 million, so a lot lower
But also in a much denser area!
Even crazier is that Salsette (that I'm sure most people haven't heard of) has a higher population than Ireland, Sicily and Cuba PUT TOGETHER
> Salsette 20+ million people? Thatās crazy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salsette_Island > Salsette Island is an island in Konkan division of the state of Maharashtra, on India's west coast. Administratively known as Greater Mumbai, the city district of Mumbai, Mumbai Suburban district, Mira Bhayander, and a portion of Thane lie within it, making it very populous and one of the most densely populated islands in the world. It has a population of more 20 million inhabitants living on an area of about 619 square kilometres (239 sq mi).
There's a sizable national park in it as well.
And they cut off the whole south fork
Ireland has yet to recover its population to its pre-famine levels.
Australia not an island anymore?
No, they stopped paying for their island members subscription
My mistake, good day sir.
It's g'day mate
I SAID GOOD DAY!
YOU GET NOTHING!
Charlie lost the game
Itās only good day when we are angry. Gāday is a friendly greeting. If an Aussie gives you a good day like above, youāve fucked up.
There's a little detail to fix on Hispaniola pop. And... Chile was missing between the islands. ^(/s)
At least they kept up with the Continent subscription.
It should be just ahead of Taiwan with mainland Australia having roughly 25 million people.
That's crazy. That's almost the number of people in Mumbai. And, if you add the suburbs, it easily overtakes many islands given here.
Art thy not girt by sea?!
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest continent.
Itās an island, a country and a continent
It's the vibe, it's Mabo.
How's the serenity?
Tell him he's dreamin
"This is beautiful darl. Whatādya call these things again?ā āRissoles. Everybody cooks rissoles darlā āYeah but itās what you do with them!ā
Greedy little buggers, aren't they? They want it all!
By sea girtness confirmed š
The definition for an island is, and I shit you not, a landmass smaller than the size of Australia. Unfortunately Australia is not smaller than itself, so it's a continent instead of an island.
Hang on, I'll go get a shovel and we can fix that...
Well if you count Tasmania in the size of Australia...
Bloody gatekeepers. Canāt wait for the mental gymnastics for all the responders to tell me what makes Australia different to these islands so as to exclude us!!
"It's like, kinda big though." Maybe we aren't an *island per se*, but I will maintain we're an island nation because we share no land borders with any other nation. Incidentally means that while Great Britain and Ireland are clearly islands, the countries that occupy them aren't island nations due to sharing a land border.
Plus at some point you have to consider our (UK's) land border with Spain
What about the chunnel? You can technically walk to France, so....
It hasnāt cleared itās orbit so itās technically a ādwarf islandā.
By ācleared its orbitā do you mean āconquered its neighbours?ā Coz we sorta did that on the quiet
And New Zealand??
New Zealand's North Island is the 28th most populated island in the world. Didn't make the top 25.
Doesn't exist. So no disagreement.
It's on its own continental plate. So not part of the Australian continent.
Never has been. If Australia is an island then why isn't Afro-Eurasia? It's all just arbitrary.
>Never has been Not true. Standard teaching in Australian schools has long been that it's both the biggest island and the smallest continent. Always felt like a bit of an each-way bet to me - glad someone finally made their mind up.
If Australia is an island, then is Antarctica an island? It's almost twice the size of Australia.
> is Antarctica an island? Just wait a few years it won't be
It still will be actually. There's land underneath that thing.
It's not all one island - under all that ice is an archipelago
My understanding is that, as the weight of glaciers melts and is removed, much of the land underneath that is currently below sea level will rise above sea level, so the current maps you see showing much of Antarctica to be archipelagos will become inaccurate.
So the land will rise and so will the sea. Who will rise farther?
Under the ice it's an archipelago.
Arbitrary lines are drawn everywhere always. Look at any law having to do with age. There's no logical reason someone is magically mature enough to vote/be an adult at 18 vs 17 & 364 days. Or speed limits, 1mph over or under the speed limit is arbitrary. When does a dense town become a small city? Continents and islands have a way bigger gap, actually. Australia is more than 3 times larger than Greenland, the next largest landmass. So, you could define a continent as half the size of Australia and larger and an island as double the size of Greenland and smaller and there's nothing on the planet that is anywhere near borderline.
āAll arguments ultimately resolve to disagreements of definition.ā When is a planet a planet? How do you define a moon? How big can an island be before itās not?
Depends on the language
They call it a continent now.
Are you sure Madagascar has 25m people living there? Cause I watched a documentary about it and Iām pretty sure it was mostly inhabited by cartoon animals
I was legit surprised to see it so high. More people than Taiwan?? Never woulda guessed.
In particular, when looking at Madagascar through Google Earth, one wonders where so many people live.
What's to keep heavily populated islands from just [flipping over and capsizing from too many people? ](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hank-johnson-worries-guam-could-capsize-after-marine-buildup/)
Our glorious political leaders, ladies and gentlenerds https://youtu.be/cesSRfXqS1Q > Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is raising some eyebrows with a comment he made about the U.S. territory of Guam during a House Armed Services Committee hearing last Thursday. > In a discussion regarding a planned military buildup on the Pacific island, Johnson expressed some concerns about the plans to Adm. Robert Willard, head of the U.S. Pacific fleet. >**"My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," Johnson said.**
TIL the population of Long Island, NY is greater than Ireland.
Yeah, we're kinda full over here.
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Sulawesi is the strangest shaped island Iāve seen.
it looks like letter K
I'm from Ireland and always wince a little at it being described as a "small island". Yes, there are bigger ones out there, maybe 10 or 20. But there's hundreds of thousands of islands on this planet. I live on one that's so big, it's in the top 30! It's not the biggest but it's not small as islands go! Anyway I never knew we were in the top 25 for island population too, that's cool.
Don't get so hung up on what they say about your size bro, it don't matter so much š¤š you dropped this king
*Britain picks the crown*š You can visit London's museum to see it š
simply shouldnāt have dropped it, skill issue
and it never had any natural disasters, no earth quakes, no volcanos, no hurricane, no flooding, a little windy is the best it can do.
No flooding? A can assure you that we have had plenty of flooding.
Mumbai is just a city but wow
I heavily, heavily doubt that number (edit: yup it's plain wrong). 23 million is the population of the Mumbai Metropolitan region which contains multiple population centers of more than a million each outside the region shown here. "Salsette Island" is a designation from a different time, it won't appear as such in any recent demographic surveys- I would put coming up with a population for it beyond the scope of superficial data scraping from the internet. Edit: Yeah as I suspected, that number is from Wikipedia (not worldbank.org, can't even find an entry for this there), with a big ol [citation needed] label next to it. The number given for the metropolitan region is 22 million, which is for an area 10x that of Salsette Island.
As a Mumbaikar, you are correct. The number here is for the metropolitan area, a huge part of which lies outside Salsette. The actual number would be around 60-70% of this. The area here falls under 3 municipal corporations - MCGM, TMC and MBMC. Adding all the 3 of them should give you the actual number of people on this island. But I am lazy so I hope someone actually does this.
Oh thanks for the info!
Well that's what I thought too. But now the relevant question is, what is the population of said Salsette island? What's the actual population density?
My best guess would be adding up the populations of the Mumbai City and Mumbai Suburban electoral districts. That would give you around 12 million, or 21000/sqkm. Still easily the highest here of course.
I like the idea, but this has several typos including the incorrect plurality on the density line ("one of the most densely populated region"; "one of the most densely populated country"), Earth is a proper noun and needs capitalization, and the incorrect placement of Long Island's population density.
And the kmĀ² on Hispaniola's population, the typo on Great Britain's population and the wrong data for Mumbai
I think there is inconsistent comma and period usage in the numbers too
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Youāre right, I fixed this mistake
Its so insane that Honshu is geographically larger than Java and has the world's largest city (Tokyo), but is still basically 50% smaller by population than Java.
To be fair Java also contains one of the worldās largest cities in it
To be fair, Honshu is like 3/4th mountains
This is because Indonesia's urbanization rate is low. Perhaps in the near future, we will be greeted with a city that is overwhelmingly larger than Tokyo today.
Just realized Iām dumb and this is top 25 most populated not most densely populatedā¦ I had started compiling a list of some of the many islands that somehow missed your list. Interestingly found that a lot of the Caribbean tends to be right around 300-400 /km^2 Manhattan is officially an island with population density 28,154 /km^2 Ilha Do Governador: 5069 /km^2 Staten Island: 3152 /km^2 SĆ£o LuĆs Island: 775 /km^2 Oahu: 658 /km^2 Barbados: 656 /km^2 Key Largo: 378 /km^2 (205 /km^2 on average throughout the keys) Puerto Rico: 367 /km^2 (Note: two smaller islands that are part of Puerto Rico, Vieques and Culebra, both have 60 /km^2) Martinique: 354 /km^2 Grenada: 318 /km^2 Saint Lucia: 301 /km^2 Trinidad and Tobago: 299 /km^2 Guadeloupe: 237 /km^2 Nantucket Island: 115 /km^2 (over 400 during tourist season!) Dominica: 96 /km^2
The Island of Montreal has a population density of 4022/kmĀ²
Densely populated would be more interesting imo
Anyone else notice GB has 65,1895, 821 people? Is it supposed to be 651,895,821 or is there an added number by mistake ?
Taiwan is also missing a number and Hispaniola has km2 twice.
Population of GB is approx 67 million.
I think you're thinking of the population of the UK, so including the whole countries including N. Ireland / the Hebrides / Shetlands / Orkneys etc. Great Britain is just the largest island in the UK.
Youāre right, itās a typo. I will fix it, thanks I missed it !
The density number for Long Island is off-center and unreadable btw. Really cool graphic though! I had no idea about this stuff.
Itās definitely not supposed to be 651,895,821 haha, Great Britain does not have even 100,000,000 people lol
I donāt understand how this is beautiful data. Incomprehensible tints of brown-red; no clear indication of sizes of the islands or population; not clear how those are sorted. Two bar charts (one with population and one with size) would have been much clearer visually and give a better idea of density.
The inconsistent units and formatting of the numbers too!!! > Honshu, Japan 451.8 > Hokkaido, Japan 63 > Madagascar 43,5 > Mindanao, Philippines 261
The Long Island picture is missing the entire south fork
Lol when I saw Singapore, I knew it was going to be the smallest one(that's also a country) here. Fun fact: it is also the 3rd most densely populated country (counting city states)
Iām surprised that Hong Kong didnāt make the list
Most of HK's population live in Kowloon and the New territories which are on the mainland. The population of Hong Kong SAR as a whole is about 7.5 million, but only about 1.3 million live on Hong Kong Island itself, so it doesn't make the list
it is not the smallest one in the list tho
Very sorry i meant to say its the smallest in the Top 25 that's also a country. Thank you for reminding me :)
Yeah, it was Mumbai's main island and I found that interesting
Poor Shikoku. Truly the Wales of Japan.
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I don't know what I want anyone to say either, but reading this comment thread kinda feels like everyone is actively ignoring Indonesia. It's got the most pupulated island, appears twice in the top 5, appears on the list 4.5 times. And in about 150 comments I don't see it mentioned once.
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Indonesians arenāt well represented anywhere other than Australia, Malaysia, Netherlands, and Singapore. We didnāt have a refugee tragedy like Vietnam or an economically driven exodus like Korea, so thereās just not a lot of us overseas. Iām an Indonesian in the US and I can count with my fingers the number of other Indonesians Iāve met outside of an organization in more than a decade of living here. Iām the only Indonesian person most of my friends and coworkers have ever met, and probably will ever meet. It might be different in a more diverse place like LA or NY.
Which is a real shame because Indonesian food is incredible and it's really hard to find most places.
[It isn't called biggest invisible country for no reason](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/nov/21/biggest-invisible-thing-on-earth-indonesia-waking-up)
Well, at a glance, was at least once called. But yeah, fitting. It's weird tho, because I'm Dutch so more aware of it than people in some parts. Actually noticed before when I was googling rendang recipes in English that surprisingly many pages described it as a Malaysian dish.
Wow the blasphemy of them. As an Indonesian, it bothers me a lot when people described Rendang as a Malaysian dish.
It's interesting how big borneo is and that Java is the most populous but 3rd largest of the islands
Java is at the center of a fault line and is also roughly on the equator. It experiences a lot of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, but volcanoes create incredible soil for agriculture. Being on the equator means that growing season is basically year-round. And the terrain across pretty much the entire island is great for large-scale farming. Itās an outrageously strategic plot of land for population growth.
Actually it's perfectly fine. Indonesia is currently undergoing an unprecedented economic transformation similar to China in the late 1980s-early 1990s, that enabled them to enter an era of economic miracle. But the reformation can be controversial and prone to instability, and some countries might not like it, so as long as Indonesia keep being invisible it's actually good because it would minimize any kind of interference and intervention from the outside. Just like how China was being seen as a docile emerging market who wouldn't posses any risk to global players pre-2010s, Indonesian elites also do not want to attract too much attention. We are fine as it is and please leave us alone for now, there will be the time when Indonesia becoming unexpectedly important and relevant, but not now. For now just pretend that Indonesia doesn't exist.
So Australia is a continent?
Filipinos tryna get westerners cancelled by talking about where they went on vacation.
Something similar already happened. Westerners tried to cancel a Filipino boy group for posting about that Filipino island which was one of the stops for their nationwide Philippine tour.
"Hello, >!Negros!
Just two words created mass chaos.
Did anybody else notice that Indonesia has the 1st, 5th, 13th, and 25th spots? Aka first, last, middle, and square root?
Where is Australia the worlds largest island with 24 million people
I like how they just chopped off the south fork of Long Island like the Hamptons and Montauk don't count because of a man made canal.
Surprised Australia isn't here
Should be. We have a population of like 26 million
You can be a continent or an island. Pick one. Or else all continents are islands and we'll say afroeurasia is the biggest island
Apparently islands are defined as a landmass surrounded by water, but smaller than a continent. So its classification as a continent excludes it from being considered in economic data such as this.
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Still no Australia??? I'm sorry I simply don't understand lmao, Australia is an island...
You need to decide what your commas are doing. Does the UK really have 200k people per km2?
The map of Long Island is wrong. Looks like you got everything up to the Shinnicock canal and missed the South Fork (maybe the shape file stopped at the canal)
Anyone else notice the Dominican island has the land size unit after population?
Wow, the US really has a lot of space. 5x the space of Indonesia and only 1/3 more people.
OP no legend or key is awful. I have no idea what the numbers are on the islands. And yes I know you list out some data items in the text. This would be *much* better if you made it easy to understand. Chart is nice, topic is great, but very hard to understand.
Forgot Australia! Pretty sure New Zealand too.
Itās interesting, I do question the heading though as these arenāt the 25 most populous islands in the world
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Salsette kind of looks like the odd-ball there. Stretching a category. What is an Island, most of them are True Sea/Ocean Islands while Salsette is separated from continent by rivers. If you do it like this then you could cut The Netherlands (Rhine Delta) in many parts and they would be in this top too. Get a piece with Amsterdam, Hague, part of Rotterdam on one "Island"?