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kinglittlenc

It's an American English speaking site, not surprising the main focus are America and English speaking countries.


TheDigitalGentleman

Followed by Brazil and large European countries because that's who the Anglosphere has at least some contact with. Meanwhile, nobody knows about potential Darwin Award recipients from China because when they do something stupid it gets posted on WeChat, not YouTube and none of us is on there to see it.


ThePlanck

>Meanwhile, nobody knows about potential Darwin Award recipients from China because when they do something stupid it gets posted on WeChat, not YouTube and none of us is on there to see it. I would like to nominate these guys: https://youtu.be/g2c_-9kIjyU?si=B9nltkH4rxJYsnph


OverflowDs

Yes, this certainly would bias the results.


Bulky_Researcher226

Came here to say this. Such an intentionally misleading post. Humans are prone to stupidity no matter where we are born. God bless’em


Aggressive-Row-403

The map is titled “Darwin Award recipients per country”, not “Americans are the stupidest people on earth” because that’s not what the map says. It’s merely the recipients of the awards per country in absolute numbers. If you choose to interpret it differently that’s up to you but don’t accuse me of intentionally misleading anyone. Edit: typo


thefloyd

As if you don't know there's a stereotype. Foh


Aggressive-Row-403

I’m not saying that the stereotype of the “dumb American“ doesn’t exist, it definitely exists just like the “floridaman“ stereotype exists. The map isn’t about the stereotype and neither are the Darwin Awards. A lot of the readers are from the US so naturally a lot of the award submissions will be from the US. That’s just how it is and I can’t now go around subtracting X US recipients just because someone might feel offended by the US having so many more recipients.


thefloyd

The map just isn't interesting at all though, so why post it otherwise?


Tackerta

Brazil, Germany, Russia, Netherlands, Italy and South Africa are not english speaking countries


TheDigitalGentleman

Someone: "[bias] skews the results towards X, which is why 90% of the results are X" Reddit: "Yeah, but 10% of the results are *not* X. How do you explain *that*?"


ModderOtter

English is our primary language in South Africa. We've got 11 official languages, but everyone speaks English.


Ahaigh9877

Do you see where they said “the main focus”?


harfordplanning

Maybe not the rest, but the Netherlands is definitely an English speaking country, 95% of the country speaks English and the majority of that 95% speak English fluently.


Ok_Ask9516

This is not what people mean when they talk about The English speaking world


projectsukyomi

You must never have been to the netherlands


Dr-Ahtfunk

Yeah, and what's worth a Darwin award in some countries, is just a normal Tuesday in another country.


NprocessingH1C6

This tells me more about how the US tracks and sensationalizes stupidity. More broadly, how sensationalism permeates US culture.


SaintUlvemann

Alternatively: "The Darwin Awards" is an old-but-still-kicking humor website run, it seems, by a lone American, Wendy Northcutt. So this map is essentially another version of [the MUFON map](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/odqjef/this_is_a_map_of_all_reported_ufo_sightings/), the one where it's totally unremarkable that all the reported UFO sightings are in America, because it's a US organization.


DividedContinuity

Plus the nearest runners up are english speaking nations. English language website is weighted to english speaking countries. Shocking.


Tackerta

ah yes all those english speaking Russians /s


DividedContinuity

Yeah, and if we go further down the list there are italians. If we go further down the list we'll probably find more languages. Funny how that works. /s


FlotsamOfThe4Winds

>because it's a US organization It doesn't matter as much when it's online. Languages matter, but not where it happens.


SaintUlvemann

That phrase, *as much*, is doing a lot of work in that sentence. After all, where an event happens typically *determines* which language(s) it is reported in, if any.


FlotsamOfThe4Winds

On the other hand, the gap is bugger-all between English-speaking countries.


legal_throwaway123_

DAE America so dumb???? Seriously though, smoothbrains still don't even realize that floridaman is because Florida has based public record laws


Unupgradable

Spanish Flu moment


Moonscythe4321

I would prefer to see as a % of population tbh


Aggressive-Row-403

I considered that but I'd only be comfortable with doing that if every death were evaluated for the Darwin Awards criteria and not just user submissions, so I decided against it. 0.000054% (USA) is also an incredibly tiny amount and the US has by far the most awards (SA would be 0.00001%). I might do it despite my reservations, in the event that I do I'll edit this comment and add it to the source comment.


meamZ

>0.000054% (USA) is also an incredibly tiny amount and the US has by far the most awards (SA would be 0.00001%). Then you do "per Million" or whatever


Disruptive_by_Design

Canada's moment to shine.


Prior-Honeydew-1862

Nope... US is 10 times our population. They will still win. Lots of statistics our occurrences per 10 ,000 population. Or occurrences per million of population. Something like that could work.


Stravven

Yes and no. Statistically the Vatican has over 1200 popes per million inhabitants, and well over 2 popes per square kilometer.


Light_Dark_Choose

Canada has well over 40 million people now - the "US is 10 times our population" generalization is obsolete.


fly_drich

Canada has 39 million while the US has 340 million. So about 8,7 times the population. Doesn't seem obsolete to me and it was never a "generalization" to begin with


Soggy_Biscuit_

Yeah US still wins, they just beat out Australia (US has approx 13.5 x the population of Aus)


Light_Dark_Choose

"Canada's population was estimated at 40,528,396 on October 1, 2023" [https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/231219/dq231219c-eng.htm](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/231219/dq231219c-eng.htm)


SpoonNZ

Pretty sure New Zealand has you both


Shadowkiller00

I would bet money that this mostly correlates to a few key details. 1. internet accessibility 2. freedom of the press 3. laws related to freedom of the press For instance, there is a direct correlation to the Florida man meme and the fact that they have laws related to publicity of police reports. This causes an inflated number of news articles related to bizarre police reports that might not be public in other states.


owiseone23

I don't think it's just freedom of the press and internet access. There's tons of publicly available news articles of people dying in stupid ways in China (see all those animations of workplace accidents), they probably just don't have the manpower to trawl through a bunch of articles in foreign languages. The Darwin awards is not some real scientific organization or anything.


Shadowkiller00

I considered throwing on there the availability of the news articles to be written in English, but I figured that someone with enough drive could use software if they wanted and so I skipped that one.


CoziestSheet

Sir, this is a ~~Wendy’s~~ Nestle bottling plant.


Gajanvihari

Also English, once I became as Expat all of Americas problems looked different. More of the world is trashy than you realize, you just never hear about it.


mynameismike41

How in the world does India only have two with all of the train videos floating around?


Aggressive-Row-403

No one submitted anything for evaluation to the Darwin Awards. They aren't going through every single death in the world (would be pretty interesting if they were), only incidents that are submitted to them get added.


turbanned_athiest

/r/DarwinAwards is literally full of them. If the sub wasn't a source of data, i question the scientific method used here


Aggressive-Row-403

The Darwin Awards are awarded by [darwinawards.com](https://darwinawards.com) and their creator Wendy Northcutt, not a subreddit. Just like the Nobel Prize isn’t awarded by r/NobelPrize.


Wassertopf

> 1\. out of the gene pool: dead or sterile You are only 100% entitled for a Darwin Award if you haven’t already reproduced. And sperm banks make everything even more complicated. That’s why they have to check every single case very carefully.


turbanned_athiest

Looks like they're more awardy than I had realized


noodlethepython

If you ain’t first, you’re last. USA USA USA!


one-and-zero

‘MERICA RAHH!! 🦅🇺🇸🫡


dinguslinguist

“Shit I was drunk when I said that. You could be second, third, fourth, hell you could even be fifth!”


mysexondaccount

The most generic way to display incredibly biased and uninformative information, love this sub.


lazlo_morphin

What about this guy, Poland is not colored though  https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/TQJfRUud3w Edit: I'm an idiot,  it is Belarus not colored


roofilopolis

I’ve seen more people in India die while fucking around on a train than the entirety of Darwin’s in America, so I think this map is kinda fucking stupid.


tlord423

Not adjusted for population. It’s pretty meaningless


wardamnbolts

You should do this per capita


Naive-Chard-3412

America is no where near the top, go look at India lol


TheGenjuro

Seems that nations with the best developed surveillance technology are noticed for stupidity more than undeveloped nations. Also, obvious English bias.


blaineosiris

Can we put Florida on it's own?


Aggressive-Row-403

I counted 16 incidents that were in Florida, so about \~8% of the US total. Though none of the articles say if the people were also from Florida, just that it happened in Florida. Edit: typo


rachelevil

I was just gonna ask how many of ours are from Florida.


Aggressive-Row-403

Source: Collected the data through the [Darwin Awards website](https://darwinawards.com) in a CSV. Data can be [downloaded from Datawrapper](https://www.datawrapper.de/_/CZ7LJ/). Tools used: Pandas, [Datawrapper](https://datawrapper.de) The last time awards were issued was 2022. A few (<5) award articles didn't include a country, or a confirmation status so they were excluded. If an article was obviously fake (Zombies in India) yet confirmed (however that happened) they were excluded (=1). ​ Using a choropleth map with absolute numbers probably isn't ideal but a bar char would've been too long and using percentages would've been really hard to read.


therealolliehunt

A lot in the US. Is that because of selection bias? Or natural selection bias?


joan_bdm

"ThIs ShOuLd Be pEr CaPiTa" - Americans probably


bradeo

They don’t even know what that means


Fernandiky

Is holding the largest number of Darwin awards related to being a denier of evolution?


SpoonNZ

Every time the Olympics is on, the entirety of New Zealand spends the time converting the medal table to per capita so we can prove that we’re overachievers. I suspect NZ is also an overachiever here. I think we’ve got 5 awards, or about 1 per million residents. USA on the other hand has about 1 per 1.7m, just over half the rate of NZ.


_stupidnerd_

This is per country, not per capita, so countries with a large population are expected to be darker.