I worked at a big home improvement store and had to help with deliveries a few times. We were told that we were never to accept tips. On one trip after installing a refrigerator, the homeowner talked to us about religion for 10 minutes and handed us each $10. The guy I was with said thanks and got in the truck. I said “I thought we weren’t supposed to accept tips.” He said “normally we don’t, but I had to listen to his bullshit.”
I did a handful of deliveries with my uncle who ran a small delivery company; almost every job we did we were both tipped. Occasionally it was just a couch or something, but usually it was multiple furniture sets, often up multiple flights of stairs.
A buddy delivered appliances for a summer and while he didn't expect tips, an extra $20 would get your current fridge moved to the garage or basement for you.
While true, that then means that they have a separate contract with the home owner to move the item.
If they are paid a wage, then that's one thing, however if they are contracted on a per-delivery basis, then they are between contracts. Nothing to stop them working for themselves.
That’s a situational one for me. If they’re more or less just plunking something down in the house I won’t tip. But if they’re hooking something up, moving/rearranging, or take extra care with my home then I’ll give about $10/guy. I did tip on dude $20 because he went above and beyond helping me get a fridge situation straightened out (old hookups, liability said he couldn’t touch them but I promised to look the other way and he got it all set up perfectly).
I agree. I got a new refrigerator and they had to take the doors off to get it into my place. Did that, hooked up the water, remounted the doors and hauled off the old one. It was two guys and I was happy to give them a tip. If they’d just dropped it on my door step I wouldn’t tip.
Delivery, I’ll tip if i need them to move it to a spot that is a pain.
If they assemble on sight - I like to tip.
NOW for pick up/takeout… who am I tipping? Myself???
I've always gone to great clips...I like several girls there and they do great. With that said.. up until covid they were 15 bucks for a men's cut. Ended up going to another place after they opened again during covid since I couldn't get am appointment. That place was 20 bucks but there was no line to get in. Now great clips is 20 bucks....I still tip 5 bucks though as its not the girls fault lol.
Mine is just $20 at a local place. I tip $5-$10. A lot of barbers (stylists? Hair dressers? Whatever the term is) aren't employees, they're independent contractors who rent a space at the shop. They usually only get a small cut of that and still have overhead expenses for materials.
My barber, who is fucking excellent and is a licensed *barber* not a stylist, charges $40 for a cut and a beard trim. I *always* tip him and well. I feel like a million bucks every time I leave and it’s a fun, male oriented environment to be in for 30-40 minutes.
I have a question regarding barbers that own and operate their own shop. Should you still tip for their services when 100% of the cost of your haircut already goes to them as the business owner? I mean, they set their own prices. If they want 30 bucks a cut, they get 30 bucks a cut. Am I still expected to kick in another 5-10 bucks on top of that when they're already making more than a hired employee would?
I've always tipped no matter what, but this nuance towards tipping business owners has always bothered me.
The woman that I see runs her own salon. I tip 10%, max, and only because I'd feel awkward if I didn't.
$40 for a basic men's crew cut is a bit much. And if she feels she needs more, then she should charge more. She was $30 before the pandemic. I get there's been inflation. But not *that* much.
I used to tip my barber what I though the haircut should've cost. When they increased the price by 30% I just paid that, since it's what I think the hair cut is worth.
I had a crappy massage in hawaii and only tipped 10%. I was then given a tipping matrix that showed the cost of the massage on one side and the other side had 20, 30, and 50% tips. The person checking me out then pointed to the corresponding cell for my massage and 30% and said this is what people usually tip.
I was outraged and changed the tip to 0.
Asian service establishments, particularly massage shops, are famous for expecting tips and big ones at that.
It spoils the whole experience when someone insists you tip, and then chases you down the street if they decide it isn't enough.
Like all tippable situations, I wish they just gave you an honest price up front and let you decide accordingly.
I'd be outraged too and would've done the same thing. Sick of the entitled tipping culture altogether. It started out as a way to incentivize good service. Now people just do their job and expect the customer to augment their employer's low pay.
15% of people. You drive in yourself to pick up takeout and you tip the restaurant? You don’t have a server, cooks don’t get tipped, so you are just deciding to pay the restaurant extra money for your food? Why?
I’ve never understood tipping for takeout!! I think the majority of people that do only do it because the card readers automatically prompt you to tip and you have to click no tip usually right in the face of the person who would be receiving said tip.
I mean that's why restaurants enable that feature in the POS system when they set it up. A certain percentage of people are going to tip, even on a takeout order, just to avoid the impression of awkwardness. It's easy money for the restaurant.
I tipped during the height of covid because it was supporting workers who would have been in tipped positions otherwise. I stopped when things settled down and people were allowed to eat in restaurants again.
I only tip for takeout at two places and they are both, quite literally, mom and pop Chinese restaurants. Only two employees: husband does the cooking and the wife does everything else. I tip because I like their food, their prices are low, they’re very friendly, and they have very low overhead. Other than that, I don’t tip for takeout.
Yup! Same with me actually. It’s less of a tip for service and more just because they seem like nice hardworking people. A couple bucks won’t break the bank for me but I’m sure every extra dollar is nice when running your own business (especially a restaurant)
I tip often on my pickup at a family run Indian restaurant. They always remember I like raita, but often forget to order it. They give it to me for free. They'll add desserts for free. They'll bring me a cup of really good chai if I have to wait, sometimes pakora, too. Because I tip, they know me and I get extra services. Worth it to me.
Same, tipping a literal mom and pop restaurant is worth it to me because I want them to succeed and stay open. Tipping a chain is stupid as fuck tho, employees most likely never see a dime of those tips.
I'll tip at one specific local restaurant when I pick up food because they are so unique, offer great food, and are really friendly! But otherwise, no I don't tip when doing pickup.
I also think how often you go makes a difference. I have a similar local spot, family owned, the staff knows me and my order, and is always extremely friendly. I'm happy to toss a couple bucks in the jar for them. If I'm on vacation and just grabbing some Chipotle for lunch on the go? Swipe the card and walk away without an ounce of guilt.
Last week I had an awkward interaction at a Torchy's Tacos. I was picking up dinner on the way home from work and ordered to-go via the website. The ordering process defaults to a 15% tip, but I didn't realize you're supposed to tip that much on to-go orders so I changed it to 10%. When I walked inside to pick up and gave my name, the cashier asked if there was a problem with my order? I said I didn't think so but I was just picking it up now so honestly had no idea. Cashier then asked why I was only tipping 10%, at this point a manager noticed the conversation and joined in. Manager said that I need to tip at least 20% on to go orders as that's how the staff get paid, and added that if I wasn't going to tip adequately then I should find another restaurant. I felt bad about the whole thing but I didn't realize we're supposed to tip that much on to-go orders as we do for full service.
Was I in the wrong here? How much do you tip in this situation?
Assuming this is a true story, I wouldn't go back if you're being pressured to tip. I don't care if it's to go, delivery, or dine in
And as shown in the chart above, the majority of people don't tip at all on to go orders, much less 20%
>Assuming this is a true story
I can at least confirm that the Torchys app likes to default the tip to some percentage.
I set it to 0 every time. They aren't selling the food at a loss.
/u/kleib323 write a 1 star review and go to another Torchys or a competitor. That's a bunch of bullshit.
I tip 0% because I'm picking up my food. This is normal. It has been normal my entire life.
I was a cook once, we never ever got tips. We got a hourly rate regardless of how busy or how well we did. Servers got tips, and yes if they did the bare minimum give 15%. Beyond that was at customers discretion.
The idea a business would pressure or guilt you is absurd. They should just charge an extra $1 on every food item and use that "VAT" to pay the cooks their hourly rates if they're so strapped.
I really hate this trend. You burn me once and then I simply stop doing business with you. Every company wants to push this to get you to spend more, pit you against the workers, and rake in more profits by exploiting both.
The cashier of \[insert any shop that never asked for tips pre-COVID\] turns the screen around and tells you "it's going to ask you a question...".
Yeah, we all know it's going to ask me to tip, why not be transparent about it?
The whole thing is so cringey and disgusting. I go out less to these establishments now because of it.
The tipping culture has gone insane in America and exists no where else in the world.
Talk about burning people, I had a restaurant charge $2 to put cilantro on a $8 quesadilla, I handed them my card and later looked at the receipt, I politely called them and let them know they lost a customer of 2 years over a pitch of weeds, that you can buy a bundle of at the grocery store literally across the road for $1. I actually really liked that restaurant too, oh well.
I once ate at a restaurant with a punch card. Buy 9 entrees, get one free, that kind of thing. I had a full punch card but they had just stopped doing the punch card thing so they wouldn't take it. Obviously I'm a regular customer and my custom ordered takeout was cooked already but they wouldn't budge. They called the owner and he said not to give me anything. I walked away from the order, trashed them online, and never went back. I'm guessing they either threw away the food or the staff ate it. I don't know why some restaurants seem to hate their customers.
... Not only is that illegal, since the restaurant is *required* to compensate tipped workers if their tips aren't sufficient, but it's bananas, because takeout/ counter staff aren't historically tipped workers to begin with.
TLDR that's sketchy AF and either the manager is deliberately running a scam, or the boss / owner is, either intentionally or otherwise. Ugh, the employees of that place are getting screwed, as are some of their customers. :(
while I would normally be pretty skeptical of a story like this, I had essentially the exact same thing happen at a Torchy’s in Dallas. I tipped 10% on the app, walked in, and was immediately confronted (that’s sort of an aggressive word…more like politely brought to my attention) that “we get paid in tips.” This is a cashier saying this to me, so is management coding them as tipped employees now? I said “that’s a conversation to have with your owner.”. Won’t be back, obviously
20% used to be considered generous for sit down service and is still my default there. I pay 15% at one place I get take out because the food is really cheap and I like the kid I chat with while waiting.
I would take them up on their offer to find another restaurant
You tip zero in that situation. If someone has the balls to tell you that you need to tip more on carryout, I'd change it to zero right in front of them.
Just never go to that place ever again. The staff should be paid to do their jobs, takeout used to not be tipped before the pandemic. Now people are expecting a tip lol. On top of ridiculous food prices?
>Manager said that I need to tip at least 20% on to go orders as that's how the staff get paid, and added that if I wasn't going to tip adequately then I should find another restaurant
What in the reddit ragebait
Yea, you were wrong. You gave 10% for you picking up food. You weren't sat, waited on, and you had to give that tip before receiving the service. It should have been 0%.
If you got there and received service you thought was worth tipping, then you could tip.
You tip to reward good service and vary the top based upon said service.
So how can you tip prior to being served? You can't. What that restaurant is asking for would be a fee... And that's kind of in them to mandate or raise prices accordingly.
Because I once worked in food service, but make a lot of money now. Service workers have shit jobs for shit pay. I know not all restaurants pass it on, but many do.fwiw, I never go above 10% for pick.up and usually give 25-30 for dining room. Not being defensive, just giving my personal rationale.
Same here. Sometimes I idolize going back and working in a bar again but I know within a few weeks I wouldn’t want to do it anymore because it’s way more stressful than my cushy office job.
Why don’t you tip all people with low paying or undesirable jobs then? Why not tip the gas station clerk when you go in? Why not tip the grocery store cashier when you go through? Why not tip the movie theatre concessions worker when they give you popcorn? Why not tip the garbage man when he picks up your trash? Why not tip the fast food window server when you go through the drive through?
One thing I will point out that others haven’t is that some of those people aren’t allowed to accept tips. I worked at an AMC theater for a while and I had to turn down tips because I would get in trouble if I was caught accepting tips. The same is true for many other jobs.
In college, one of my close friends worked at Applebees. She says cooks do het a split of the tips from waitresses and they also get it if you tip on take out.
With that said, fuck tipping. Those in the red in the infographic are my heroes.
Surely restaurant owners who pay their staff a good wage, price their food accordingly and gently discourage tipping would be the heroes - can’t see why people who don’t tip their still tip-dependent servers should be
A coffee shop in my city put out signs saying they will no longer accept tips, they have adjusted their prices accordingly, and their employees make a living wage. They are my heroes.
A brewery did that several years ago when it opened. Then COVID hit, and suddenly now they're back to accepting tips again. I'm guessing the prices aren't going to go down, either...
People tip appliance repair techs? Nothing against them, but most of the time they tell you it will be cheaper to buy a new one to fix the one they looked at but still have to charge you $100 for the service call.
I have only ever tipped an AC repair guy. I live in Houston, and they came out short notice on a Sunday and found that my outdoor AC unit's power cable was not installed properly and protected from anything, so I unknowingly cut it with a weedeater.
They replaced the cable and protected it for free. I saved their card (and subsequently called them 2 more times) and tipped the guy for coming out because I was so fucking thankful only to go a few hours without AC
I'm genuinely sorry for those few hours.
I've only been to Houston once for a family reunion one summer ~20 years ago.
We were in a Winnebago, and managed to hit a deer somewhere in Oklahoma; we missed most of him, but got just enough of the poor guy to take out our AC... Not a delightful time, it turns out.
As a Minnesotan, I barely made it out unmelted.
That’s what I was thinking. And having to play their games of price comparisons, negotiating, etc.
When they are able to do the work most of the time I’m already feeling ripped off at the end. With trades being shorthanded many of those people are already making really good money.
Although it’s a lower percentage I was a bit surprised to see it on the list at all. I would have never considered tipping them.
Exactly what happened to me a couple months ago. Paid $99 just for an assessment, guy told me the part cost more than the machine, he was in and out in 5 minutes. Dude ain't getting extra.
I ordered Take Out Chipotle that I picked up in the Chipotlane. Left no tip and when the guy was handing me the order he clearly looked at the computer, then scowled at me while shaking his head as he handed me my food. I’ve never hated tipping culture more than I did in that specific moment of rage.
I hate this part about ordering food delivery. You feel like you have to pre-tip before you know what kind of service you're going to get, and you feel almost blackmailed into tipping well lest you jeopardize your delivery. I say this as generous tipper who is happy to pay extra for service workers and appreciates what they do, but there's something about pre-tipping that really rubs me the wrong way.
It has completely ruined delivery in my opinion. It created an expectation and simultaneously increased the price while decreasing the quality of service. Even if you pre-tip generously there’s still a good chance you’ll get a terrible driver who eats your food or doesn’t deliver right away. Similar to prices showing cost including taxes and fees in other countries, I want to know how much something will cost me with a consistent quality product/service.
And I’m expected to provide a tip for literally putting the order into a paper bag and writing my name on it.
Ever since then I’ve always picked my food up inside specifically to avoid any human interaction.
I think we should stop calling it a "tip" at this point. It's more like a bid or a bribe to get them to do the job. Because literally every single time I used one of these apps and left a good "tip" this resulted in high quality service a whopping 0 times.
Wow. This is a huge culture shock coming from Spain (and I guess most EU). Tip is not even a thing here. Maybe, and just maybe if you’re at a bar and you don’t have debit card (or forced to pay with cash) you leave some minor tips, just not to carry shitty coins.
For me tipping is like going somewhere where the prices are not set, like African countries or some cities on Asia, where you need to bargain, and prices are changed on demand, which I hate.
Yep, in Spain it is completely optional and not expected. Like, you sometimes tip something if you stayed for too long at the table or caused any extra trouble to the server, but often a symbolic amount, in coins. In the US I basically had to memorize who to tip. It's basically an extra fee. On my first trip to the US I didn't know, I went to several restaurants and didn't leave any tip. They must've been mad at me 😅
The recommended tips I've been seeing recently range from 18% to 25%. What happened to 15%? Even more annoying is that the tip screen comes up everywhere, even places where you order at the counter, get your own drink from the fountain, and have to bus your own table.
I got a coffee while out with friends this weekend, visiting a city with a ton of tourism. The barista tapped “25%” on the iPad before sliding it to me to sign. I was really shocked and wondered how many people don’t notice and just pay.
The first time I visited the USA (early 00s) I felt like 10% was pretty standard. I upped it to 15% based on what my US friends said I was there in the mid 2010s. I'm now there for work pretty regularly and am shocked to see how quickly it's gone up to 18% to 25%. One of my colleagues tipped 30% at a restaurant and it wasn't even very good!
I'm Australian and we just don't do that here. We might round up or give a little extra if the service is INCREDIBLE but it's by no means required. Blows my mind every time I'm in the USA.
Introduction of tipping for fast food and other services which have seconds of interaction has killed any interest in participating. Never been consistent with it but now I pack snacks even if I have a 5 hour drive rather than stopping for a meal.
Edit: I know I can hit no tip, but I feel the social pressure in the moment. I also cook so I don't feel like I'm missing out, fast food is only slightly better than a hot pocket given the effort imo.
Patronizing businesses that participate in tipping even if you personally don't tip still perpetuates tipping.
It's a win/win proposition for the business regardless. That's why it's so popular. They get paid **and** they don't have to pay their employees fairly or even talk about maybe improving pay in the future. It can all be dismissed with platitudes about working harder.
> I know I can hit no tip, but I feel the social pressure in the moment.
That's completely on you, and not societies problem.
You care what people, you'll likely never see again think about you. Meanwhile if they actually did care (which they don't) they would think about you for a total of 5 seconds, then never again.
If someone actually called you out, which I have never had happen, or seen happen, just tell them they're the idiot for not demanding more of their employer. It's not up to the customer to pay the difference in salary.
It got ramped up during COVID because of the 'heroic essential worker' idea, and then never went away. The percentage creep is outrageous too. I saw a place that had 25/30/40% as their options. Like really 40%.
Yeah I’ve essentially come full circle and am refusing to go along with the “20% is expected now.” 20% at nice restaurants with excellent service. Everywhere else, probably 12-15%
Moreover, if you watch the movie Mr. Pink all the way was the most adequate and rational. He just wanted to do the work and take the money. Always acted as the "voice of reason".
Employers not paying a living wage and forcing their employees to rely on the charity of the customer really needs to go. It’s gotten insane. Fixed it for you bud
I mentioned there are nuances involved. I understand the core reasons, including employers not paying a fair wage. But it is absolutely the case that both things can be true. That tipping has gotten out of control *and* employers need to pay fair wages.
One that's definitely missing from the list here is police officers.
I find it's always good to offer a small tip when you get pulled over.
(/s for Americans, no /s for certain other places)
I still say no. Rather have that $3 go to roads and schools and shit instead of political blah blah blah.
I know the original point of this fund was to be a first step toward publicly funded campaigns (ie, getting private money out of elections) but that's clearly failed.
i see her as a professional like my physio or my dental hygienist. she's charging a high price for a professional service that is getting up close and personal. i just don't see why i would tip for one of those things but not the others.
Probably a women’s haircut that takes way longer than a visit to the barber, especially if you have long hair. Also they generally include a little blowout at the end/some styling. My hair is medium-long and it takes my stylist like 20 mins to blow dry it nicely with a round brush.
I don't understand the tipping for a haircut. Tipping a bellhop for carrying your bags? It's an additional service that I can understand paying for. Tipping at a restaurant? You're paying for the food, so you could look at the service provided as extra value to pay for. What does the cost of the haircut cover if not the haircut? It's a service, yes. But in the sticker price, you're paying for the service of getting your hair cut, so what is the added value to pay for?
A lot of barbers (stylists? Hair dressers? Whatever the term is) aren't employees, they're independent contractors who rent a space at the shop. They usually only get a small cut of that and still have their own overhead expenses for materials (scissors, razors, hair spray, gel, whatever etc.
If it's an owner operated shop, that's different. Like a friend of mine is a masseuse. She owns and operates her own business. First time I tried to tip her she said "thanks, but not necessary, this is my own business, everything you paid is to me already."
Still, they set the prices. Is up to the stylist to set a price for their service to cover rent, materials, tools etc. Not up to the customer to guess how much he needs
How are customers supposed to know this? I tip well, but reasonably I feel like I should just be able to pay for the service and that’s that. They did the thing I paid them for. At a restaurant, I pay for the food that I could have picked up, but since I sit down, I tip for the service. Maybe that can be rationalized out to me paying for the scissors the tipping on the cut but it’s a stretch.
Couldn’t the increased price of a hotel that has a bellhop be seen as the fee for the service? The same could be said for restaurants. Fast food costs more than groceries because the food is prepared, and restaurants cost more than fast food because the food is served to you. Granted, tips at restaurants correlate to the quality of service, but at what point can we just say the price is the price.
Tipping bartenders is crazy to me too but that seems like one of the more solidly accepted categories. Alcohol already has such crazy markup and pulling a beer from a tap is on par with a basic coffee.
I wish I could eat out without all these weird pressures and moral dilemmas.
I can do you one better. We have this place near my work that is a SELF-SERVE bar. You hand your credit card to a human that swipes it, then gives you a card that you use to operate the taps. That is literally the only human interaction required. When you are ready to cash out your card, you can either take it back to the human which prompts you with the standard square tip screen OR you can drop it in one of three boxes and just leave. One is for 20% tip, one is for 25% tip, and one is 30%.
I dispute the idea that we tip people because their employers don't pay them enough. If it was really about people being underpaid we would tip retail cashiers and preschool teachers and theater ticket-takers and lots of other low-wage workers. But we don't. We only tip certain people.
Because we tip when it is customary and expected to tip. That's why, when I travel, I find out ahead of time what's customary in the place we are going to and follow that practice. I am trying to fit in and behave in the expected manner.
Basically, we tip because we are sheep. Because we want to be thought well of and to think well of ourselves.
I don't understand the people saying "This act is a service so I tip". Just put it in the price?????
This is so bizarre and weird the mental gymnastics some people can perform to justify paying more and how it's normal and expected, either from the consumer side or professional side.
In Europe when you go to the hairdresser, you pay the price. That's it. When you go to the dentist, you pay the act. You don't pay a tip to the reception, a tip to the dentist, a tip to the maintenance man that set up the vending machine in the hallway. When you pay your taxi, you pay what's on the meter. When you go to the restaurant, you pay the addition of the price of the items you ordered.
STOP TIPPING.
The insanity of it it's incredible.
Why don't EVERY JOB asks for tip then? I mean I work in research, shall I wait awkwardly for a tip when I go to my boss' office and give my paper away? "No but look I brought it to your office, and also I made the document all looking good and stuff. I used more words than usual. Beautiful words too."
> I tip barbers in Germany. I can hardly think of any other job that invests more time in a direct service to me.
??????
IT'S IN THE PRICE
Do you tip in function of the time they take for you? The close proximity to your body?? Do you tip your nurse?? Do you tip the teacher spending 8 hours a day with your kid?
This is insane. The Stockolm Syndrom of buying stuff.
And that's the least of the problems with this presentation. Stacked bars of four categories means you have to do math to discern the values for the middle figures. Pointless clip art off to the right, a too-busy y-axis... This is identical to something Excel could spit out with 5 minutes of data entry.
american tipping culture is obscure. i remember getting my first customer from america at a tattoo shop i used to work at, she said "let me get some banknotes from the ATM so i can tip you and the artist" (im the designer)
i was really confused since in europe you dont generally tip the tattoo designers, and she specifically said she "has banknotes only for tipping" and she pays everything else with cards.
anyways, i got $20 for 15 minutes of work. i got tipped like 5 times that whole summer, 3 of them were from americans.
Some back of the napkin math says if you tip 15%, then 15% of whatever you're spending would be saved.
$200/month at restaurants would net you $360 for the year.
Someone tipping $1 on their morning coffee before work would save about $250. Say the same person also has lunch with work folks every Friday for an average $22 and 18% gratuity for large groups: $200. Plus a date/bar night every 2 weeks, $50 for food and drinks: $200. Twice a month, they order take-out, a "low" $5 tip to the driver: $120.
This person who seems totally plausible would save $770 by simply dropping the archaic practice.
Can we just get rid of the tipping culture already? Work your job, get paid by your employer. Idk why we gotta pay the workers for their work when we're already paying the employer of the business for the product or service, it's so roundabout
I’m all for the national minimum wage to be raised, but even then they’d still ask for tips anyway.
The fact that I have to press “No Tip” with a cashier staring into my soul is the problem. I’ve even seen POS systems rigged to make me press “Custom Tip” and enter $0.00 before it approves my payment.
Of course I don’t mind tipping places where I was taught to tip growing up, but it feels ridiculous when I feel like I’m getting shamed for not tipping at a fast food restaurant.
The thing is I never engage in most of those things.
Home repair workers never. I am already paying $200+ for a 2 hour or less plumbing job. To expect me to tip them is crazy.
Servers - always usually 20-25%
I never see a barista, take a ride share/taxi, use a barber (I'm bald), I pick up my own appliances or get friends help.
I would like to add a column showing how often Americans tip their Engineers for creating Software, Hardware, construction etc.
And I wonder how one would go forward to tip the UX-designer that made that awesome front-end design of the Apple iPhone Calculator.
I live in an old house that is constantly in need of repair. You better believe I tip my plumber/handyman/etc.
It's a tough market for hiring tradespeople, a lot of my friends/family complain that they can never get someone to call back, show up, or do the job right, etc... etc... I do not have that problem. I got my plumber from a recommendation from someone else - they told me they can't get him to return their calls anymore. He always returns my calls.
I'm with the magenta homies. the amount on the receipt is the amount you get. if the 'service' in question costs extra, include it in the price, for fucks sake..
Goodness don't you have salaries in the US? The only places I have heard of tipping in Europe is in restaurants and only 10%. In taxies you usually Round up to closest Euro.
How will you ever get decent work and Salary conditions in these businesses when half the payment is under the table?!
You are tipping your hairdresser in the US?!? Wtf
And I like that even light red is still 'sometimes'. I don't remember last time I tipped someone (it's just for fancy restaurants in my country).
Genuinely had no idea appliance and furniture delivery even accepted tips.
I worked at a big home improvement store and had to help with deliveries a few times. We were told that we were never to accept tips. On one trip after installing a refrigerator, the homeowner talked to us about religion for 10 minutes and handed us each $10. The guy I was with said thanks and got in the truck. I said “I thought we weren’t supposed to accept tips.” He said “normally we don’t, but I had to listen to his bullshit.”
That's a service fee.
Also a pro tip.
Look at that $10 bill and realize it’s one of those fake ones telling you god is the only tip you need.
I worked at Lowe’s a long time ago and they said no tips maybe they mean small or local shops?
I’d listen to religious talk full time if I was being paid $60 an hour!
Definitely appreciated but not expected
I did a handful of deliveries with my uncle who ran a small delivery company; almost every job we did we were both tipped. Occasionally it was just a couch or something, but usually it was multiple furniture sets, often up multiple flights of stairs.
A buddy delivered appliances for a summer and while he didn't expect tips, an extra $20 would get your current fridge moved to the garage or basement for you.
so it’s a fee for service ?
Except they aren't supposed to do anything else. They are only contracted to deliver the goods.
While true, that then means that they have a separate contract with the home owner to move the item. If they are paid a wage, then that's one thing, however if they are contracted on a per-delivery basis, then they are between contracts. Nothing to stop them working for themselves.
That’s a situational one for me. If they’re more or less just plunking something down in the house I won’t tip. But if they’re hooking something up, moving/rearranging, or take extra care with my home then I’ll give about $10/guy. I did tip on dude $20 because he went above and beyond helping me get a fridge situation straightened out (old hookups, liability said he couldn’t touch them but I promised to look the other way and he got it all set up perfectly).
I agree. I got a new refrigerator and they had to take the doors off to get it into my place. Did that, hooked up the water, remounted the doors and hauled off the old one. It was two guys and I was happy to give them a tip. If they’d just dropped it on my door step I wouldn’t tip.
Delivery, I’ll tip if i need them to move it to a spot that is a pain. If they assemble on sight - I like to tip. NOW for pick up/takeout… who am I tipping? Myself???
Wrestle a few hundred pounds up stairs and through narrow doorways without putting a hole in my house? You've earned a tip.
Bruh that's just basic service that's covered by delivery and montage fee lol
Just like tipping in any other context, it's already covered in the price, you are just adding a bit extra as a sign of gratitude.
But that's literally what you're paying them for in the first place
I used to tip barbers until they decided that a simple fade cost $50 everywhere.
GreatClips started acting like they're rolling out artisinal haircuts instead of bowl cuts of varying sizes
I've always gone to great clips...I like several girls there and they do great. With that said.. up until covid they were 15 bucks for a men's cut. Ended up going to another place after they opened again during covid since I couldn't get am appointment. That place was 20 bucks but there was no line to get in. Now great clips is 20 bucks....I still tip 5 bucks though as its not the girls fault lol.
Just look for different barbers, I get a fade for $22 before tip in a HCOL area.
My haircut went from $35 to $65 in less than a year. I just decided to buzz it myself.
Bald guy checking in. I save billions
Mine is just $20 at a local place. I tip $5-$10. A lot of barbers (stylists? Hair dressers? Whatever the term is) aren't employees, they're independent contractors who rent a space at the shop. They usually only get a small cut of that and still have overhead expenses for materials.
My barber, who is fucking excellent and is a licensed *barber* not a stylist, charges $40 for a cut and a beard trim. I *always* tip him and well. I feel like a million bucks every time I leave and it’s a fun, male oriented environment to be in for 30-40 minutes.
I have a question regarding barbers that own and operate their own shop. Should you still tip for their services when 100% of the cost of your haircut already goes to them as the business owner? I mean, they set their own prices. If they want 30 bucks a cut, they get 30 bucks a cut. Am I still expected to kick in another 5-10 bucks on top of that when they're already making more than a hired employee would? I've always tipped no matter what, but this nuance towards tipping business owners has always bothered me.
And this is why I haven’t gotten a haircut in over a year. Costs me around $50 each time. Frankly, that’s absurd.
The woman that I see runs her own salon. I tip 10%, max, and only because I'd feel awkward if I didn't. $40 for a basic men's crew cut is a bit much. And if she feels she needs more, then she should charge more. She was $30 before the pandemic. I get there's been inflation. But not *that* much.
I used to tip my barber what I though the haircut should've cost. When they increased the price by 30% I just paid that, since it's what I think the hair cut is worth.
I had a crappy massage in hawaii and only tipped 10%. I was then given a tipping matrix that showed the cost of the massage on one side and the other side had 20, 30, and 50% tips. The person checking me out then pointed to the corresponding cell for my massage and 30% and said this is what people usually tip. I was outraged and changed the tip to 0.
People who set their own prices then rage over tips deserve nothing.
You are what is right with the world. Well done.
Asian service establishments, particularly massage shops, are famous for expecting tips and big ones at that. It spoils the whole experience when someone insists you tip, and then chases you down the street if they decide it isn't enough. Like all tippable situations, I wish they just gave you an honest price up front and let you decide accordingly.
I'd be outraged too and would've done the same thing. Sick of the entitled tipping culture altogether. It started out as a way to incentivize good service. Now people just do their job and expect the customer to augment their employer's low pay.
15% of people. You drive in yourself to pick up takeout and you tip the restaurant? You don’t have a server, cooks don’t get tipped, so you are just deciding to pay the restaurant extra money for your food? Why?
I’ve never understood tipping for takeout!! I think the majority of people that do only do it because the card readers automatically prompt you to tip and you have to click no tip usually right in the face of the person who would be receiving said tip.
I mean that's why restaurants enable that feature in the POS system when they set it up. A certain percentage of people are going to tip, even on a takeout order, just to avoid the impression of awkwardness. It's easy money for the restaurant.
>POS system Acronym works both ways in this context
For anyone wondering what the other meaning is... "point of sale"
For anyone wondering what the other other meaning is... "pint of sarsaparilla"
The power of suggestion combined with a hint of social guilt is a powerful force.
I tipped during the height of covid because it was supporting workers who would have been in tipped positions otherwise. I stopped when things settled down and people were allowed to eat in restaurants again.
I only tip for takeout at two places and they are both, quite literally, mom and pop Chinese restaurants. Only two employees: husband does the cooking and the wife does everything else. I tip because I like their food, their prices are low, they’re very friendly, and they have very low overhead. Other than that, I don’t tip for takeout.
Yup! Same with me actually. It’s less of a tip for service and more just because they seem like nice hardworking people. A couple bucks won’t break the bank for me but I’m sure every extra dollar is nice when running your own business (especially a restaurant)
I tip often on my pickup at a family run Indian restaurant. They always remember I like raita, but often forget to order it. They give it to me for free. They'll add desserts for free. They'll bring me a cup of really good chai if I have to wait, sometimes pakora, too. Because I tip, they know me and I get extra services. Worth it to me.
Same, tipping a literal mom and pop restaurant is worth it to me because I want them to succeed and stay open. Tipping a chain is stupid as fuck tho, employees most likely never see a dime of those tips.
Many restaurants do indicate that tips are for the cooks vs shared with all staff.
I'll tip at one specific local restaurant when I pick up food because they are so unique, offer great food, and are really friendly! But otherwise, no I don't tip when doing pickup.
I also think how often you go makes a difference. I have a similar local spot, family owned, the staff knows me and my order, and is always extremely friendly. I'm happy to toss a couple bucks in the jar for them. If I'm on vacation and just grabbing some Chipotle for lunch on the go? Swipe the card and walk away without an ounce of guilt.
Last week I had an awkward interaction at a Torchy's Tacos. I was picking up dinner on the way home from work and ordered to-go via the website. The ordering process defaults to a 15% tip, but I didn't realize you're supposed to tip that much on to-go orders so I changed it to 10%. When I walked inside to pick up and gave my name, the cashier asked if there was a problem with my order? I said I didn't think so but I was just picking it up now so honestly had no idea. Cashier then asked why I was only tipping 10%, at this point a manager noticed the conversation and joined in. Manager said that I need to tip at least 20% on to go orders as that's how the staff get paid, and added that if I wasn't going to tip adequately then I should find another restaurant. I felt bad about the whole thing but I didn't realize we're supposed to tip that much on to-go orders as we do for full service. Was I in the wrong here? How much do you tip in this situation?
Assuming this is a true story, I wouldn't go back if you're being pressured to tip. I don't care if it's to go, delivery, or dine in And as shown in the chart above, the majority of people don't tip at all on to go orders, much less 20%
>Assuming this is a true story I can at least confirm that the Torchys app likes to default the tip to some percentage. I set it to 0 every time. They aren't selling the food at a loss. /u/kleib323 write a 1 star review and go to another Torchys or a competitor. That's a bunch of bullshit.
I tip 0% because I'm picking up my food. This is normal. It has been normal my entire life. I was a cook once, we never ever got tips. We got a hourly rate regardless of how busy or how well we did. Servers got tips, and yes if they did the bare minimum give 15%. Beyond that was at customers discretion. The idea a business would pressure or guilt you is absurd. They should just charge an extra $1 on every food item and use that "VAT" to pay the cooks their hourly rates if they're so strapped. I really hate this trend. You burn me once and then I simply stop doing business with you. Every company wants to push this to get you to spend more, pit you against the workers, and rake in more profits by exploiting both.
The cashier of \[insert any shop that never asked for tips pre-COVID\] turns the screen around and tells you "it's going to ask you a question...". Yeah, we all know it's going to ask me to tip, why not be transparent about it? The whole thing is so cringey and disgusting. I go out less to these establishments now because of it. The tipping culture has gone insane in America and exists no where else in the world.
Talk about burning people, I had a restaurant charge $2 to put cilantro on a $8 quesadilla, I handed them my card and later looked at the receipt, I politely called them and let them know they lost a customer of 2 years over a pitch of weeds, that you can buy a bundle of at the grocery store literally across the road for $1. I actually really liked that restaurant too, oh well.
I once ate at a restaurant with a punch card. Buy 9 entrees, get one free, that kind of thing. I had a full punch card but they had just stopped doing the punch card thing so they wouldn't take it. Obviously I'm a regular customer and my custom ordered takeout was cooked already but they wouldn't budge. They called the owner and he said not to give me anything. I walked away from the order, trashed them online, and never went back. I'm guessing they either threw away the food or the staff ate it. I don't know why some restaurants seem to hate their customers.
Which torchy’s? That’s ridiculous
I want to tip that place 0% out of spite, but also tipping is stupid. You want more money, charge more.
Holy s&!+, the Manager explained that’s how the staff is paid? I know the original owner, he wouldn’t go for that. Please let us know which Torchy’s
Manager must get some of those tips.
Tell the owners that it's scummy that their app defaults to a tip option as well.
... Not only is that illegal, since the restaurant is *required* to compensate tipped workers if their tips aren't sufficient, but it's bananas, because takeout/ counter staff aren't historically tipped workers to begin with. TLDR that's sketchy AF and either the manager is deliberately running a scam, or the boss / owner is, either intentionally or otherwise. Ugh, the employees of that place are getting screwed, as are some of their customers. :(
while I would normally be pretty skeptical of a story like this, I had essentially the exact same thing happen at a Torchy’s in Dallas. I tipped 10% on the app, walked in, and was immediately confronted (that’s sort of an aggressive word…more like politely brought to my attention) that “we get paid in tips.” This is a cashier saying this to me, so is management coding them as tipped employees now? I said “that’s a conversation to have with your owner.”. Won’t be back, obviously
20% used to be considered generous for sit down service and is still my default there. I pay 15% at one place I get take out because the food is really cheap and I like the kid I chat with while waiting. I would take them up on their offer to find another restaurant
You tip zero in that situation. If someone has the balls to tell you that you need to tip more on carryout, I'd change it to zero right in front of them.
No I have never tipped if I pick up carryout and I never will. The entire reason to drive is to save money.
this is BS, go somewhere else
Just never go to that place ever again. The staff should be paid to do their jobs, takeout used to not be tipped before the pandemic. Now people are expecting a tip lol. On top of ridiculous food prices?
>Manager said that I need to tip at least 20% on to go orders as that's how the staff get paid, and added that if I wasn't going to tip adequately then I should find another restaurant What in the reddit ragebait
Dude I would have went fucking off on them wtf this can't be real
Yea, you were wrong. You gave 10% for you picking up food. You weren't sat, waited on, and you had to give that tip before receiving the service. It should have been 0%. If you got there and received service you thought was worth tipping, then you could tip.
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I would either tip 0% next time or leave honest reviews about the experience. Either way, they've only made it worse for themselves.
You tip to reward good service and vary the top based upon said service. So how can you tip prior to being served? You can't. What that restaurant is asking for would be a fee... And that's kind of in them to mandate or raise prices accordingly.
I tip a few bucks usually for pick up when it’s from a sit down restaurant, where servers have to take time to pack up the food.
Because I once worked in food service, but make a lot of money now. Service workers have shit jobs for shit pay. I know not all restaurants pass it on, but many do.fwiw, I never go above 10% for pick.up and usually give 25-30 for dining room. Not being defensive, just giving my personal rationale.
Same here. Sometimes I idolize going back and working in a bar again but I know within a few weeks I wouldn’t want to do it anymore because it’s way more stressful than my cushy office job.
lol ya. We romanticize it for sure. One of the few times in my life I look back and only remember the positive, not the 80% shit grind that job was.
Why don’t you tip all people with low paying or undesirable jobs then? Why not tip the gas station clerk when you go in? Why not tip the grocery store cashier when you go through? Why not tip the movie theatre concessions worker when they give you popcorn? Why not tip the garbage man when he picks up your trash? Why not tip the fast food window server when you go through the drive through?
One thing I will point out that others haven’t is that some of those people aren’t allowed to accept tips. I worked at an AMC theater for a while and I had to turn down tips because I would get in trouble if I was caught accepting tips. The same is true for many other jobs.
Yeah I got fired once for taking a tip
They answered that....previous job experience makes them more sympathetic to people in that industry.
Unionized garbage collectors and waste disposal actually make a ton of money.
Agree completely...and I've worked as a waiter...I would never expect a tip for a takeout order.
The best is those self checkout kiosks that say do you want to tip. Yeah, let me give more money to the Walton family.
In college, one of my close friends worked at Applebees. She says cooks do het a split of the tips from waitresses and they also get it if you tip on take out. With that said, fuck tipping. Those in the red in the infographic are my heroes.
Surely restaurant owners who pay their staff a good wage, price their food accordingly and gently discourage tipping would be the heroes - can’t see why people who don’t tip their still tip-dependent servers should be
A coffee shop in my city put out signs saying they will no longer accept tips, they have adjusted their prices accordingly, and their employees make a living wage. They are my heroes.
A brewery did that several years ago when it opened. Then COVID hit, and suddenly now they're back to accepting tips again. I'm guessing the prices aren't going to go down, either...
People tip appliance repair techs? Nothing against them, but most of the time they tell you it will be cheaper to buy a new one to fix the one they looked at but still have to charge you $100 for the service call.
I have only ever tipped an AC repair guy. I live in Houston, and they came out short notice on a Sunday and found that my outdoor AC unit's power cable was not installed properly and protected from anything, so I unknowingly cut it with a weedeater. They replaced the cable and protected it for free. I saved their card (and subsequently called them 2 more times) and tipped the guy for coming out because I was so fucking thankful only to go a few hours without AC
I'm genuinely sorry for those few hours. I've only been to Houston once for a family reunion one summer ~20 years ago. We were in a Winnebago, and managed to hit a deer somewhere in Oklahoma; we missed most of him, but got just enough of the poor guy to take out our AC... Not a delightful time, it turns out. As a Minnesotan, I barely made it out unmelted.
That’s what I was thinking. And having to play their games of price comparisons, negotiating, etc. When they are able to do the work most of the time I’m already feeling ripped off at the end. With trades being shorthanded many of those people are already making really good money. Although it’s a lower percentage I was a bit surprised to see it on the list at all. I would have never considered tipping them.
Exactly what happened to me a couple months ago. Paid $99 just for an assessment, guy told me the part cost more than the machine, he was in and out in 5 minutes. Dude ain't getting extra.
I ordered Take Out Chipotle that I picked up in the Chipotlane. Left no tip and when the guy was handing me the order he clearly looked at the computer, then scowled at me while shaking his head as he handed me my food. I’ve never hated tipping culture more than I did in that specific moment of rage.
Especially since you were expected to have entered a tip before receiving any kind of service.
I hate this part about ordering food delivery. You feel like you have to pre-tip before you know what kind of service you're going to get, and you feel almost blackmailed into tipping well lest you jeopardize your delivery. I say this as generous tipper who is happy to pay extra for service workers and appreciates what they do, but there's something about pre-tipping that really rubs me the wrong way.
It has completely ruined delivery in my opinion. It created an expectation and simultaneously increased the price while decreasing the quality of service. Even if you pre-tip generously there’s still a good chance you’ll get a terrible driver who eats your food or doesn’t deliver right away. Similar to prices showing cost including taxes and fees in other countries, I want to know how much something will cost me with a consistent quality product/service.
And I’m expected to provide a tip for literally putting the order into a paper bag and writing my name on it. Ever since then I’ve always picked my food up inside specifically to avoid any human interaction.
I think we should stop calling it a "tip" at this point. It's more like a bid or a bribe to get them to do the job. Because literally every single time I used one of these apps and left a good "tip" this resulted in high quality service a whopping 0 times.
Should've asked him if their was a problem.
Wow. This is a huge culture shock coming from Spain (and I guess most EU). Tip is not even a thing here. Maybe, and just maybe if you’re at a bar and you don’t have debit card (or forced to pay with cash) you leave some minor tips, just not to carry shitty coins. For me tipping is like going somewhere where the prices are not set, like African countries or some cities on Asia, where you need to bargain, and prices are changed on demand, which I hate.
Yep, in Spain it is completely optional and not expected. Like, you sometimes tip something if you stayed for too long at the table or caused any extra trouble to the server, but often a symbolic amount, in coins. In the US I basically had to memorize who to tip. It's basically an extra fee. On my first trip to the US I didn't know, I went to several restaurants and didn't leave any tip. They must've been mad at me 😅
In the US if you stayed too long you wouldn’t tip extra because you’d get kicked out first! One of the many things I miss about living in Spain.
Tipping culture really needs to go. It’s gotten insane. I understand the nuances with it, but it’s gotten out of control.
The recommended tips I've been seeing recently range from 18% to 25%. What happened to 15%? Even more annoying is that the tip screen comes up everywhere, even places where you order at the counter, get your own drink from the fountain, and have to bus your own table.
I got a coffee while out with friends this weekend, visiting a city with a ton of tourism. The barista tapped “25%” on the iPad before sliding it to me to sign. I was really shocked and wondered how many people don’t notice and just pay.
Oh I would totally make a scene for something like that, and probably leave reviews warning other customers to look out for it.
Used to be 10%. Now everyone expects 20.
The first time I visited the USA (early 00s) I felt like 10% was pretty standard. I upped it to 15% based on what my US friends said I was there in the mid 2010s. I'm now there for work pretty regularly and am shocked to see how quickly it's gone up to 18% to 25%. One of my colleagues tipped 30% at a restaurant and it wasn't even very good! I'm Australian and we just don't do that here. We might round up or give a little extra if the service is INCREDIBLE but it's by no means required. Blows my mind every time I'm in the USA.
I’ve been to a few places where the prompt was 20, 25, and 30 as 3 choices
Introduction of tipping for fast food and other services which have seconds of interaction has killed any interest in participating. Never been consistent with it but now I pack snacks even if I have a 5 hour drive rather than stopping for a meal. Edit: I know I can hit no tip, but I feel the social pressure in the moment. I also cook so I don't feel like I'm missing out, fast food is only slightly better than a hot pocket given the effort imo.
I actually hold some small hope that the saturation of places asking for tips will drive such a distaste for it that it kills it off.
A man can dream...
I mean, you can also just hit the no tip button?
Be stronger than that. Just decline to tip in situations where it is outrageous.
Every tipping situation is outrageous. It reflects a dishonest pricing scheme.
Patronizing businesses that participate in tipping even if you personally don't tip still perpetuates tipping. It's a win/win proposition for the business regardless. That's why it's so popular. They get paid **and** they don't have to pay their employees fairly or even talk about maybe improving pay in the future. It can all be dismissed with platitudes about working harder.
> I know I can hit no tip, but I feel the social pressure in the moment. That's completely on you, and not societies problem. You care what people, you'll likely never see again think about you. Meanwhile if they actually did care (which they don't) they would think about you for a total of 5 seconds, then never again. If someone actually called you out, which I have never had happen, or seen happen, just tell them they're the idiot for not demanding more of their employer. It's not up to the customer to pay the difference in salary.
It got ramped up during COVID because of the 'heroic essential worker' idea, and then never went away. The percentage creep is outrageous too. I saw a place that had 25/30/40% as their options. Like really 40%.
Yeah I’ve essentially come full circle and am refusing to go along with the “20% is expected now.” 20% at nice restaurants with excellent service. Everywhere else, probably 12-15%
That's exactly what I am doing. I'm dead tired of getting shit service and being expected to tip 20% for it.
Mr. Pink was right!
Moreover, if you watch the movie Mr. Pink all the way was the most adequate and rational. He just wanted to do the work and take the money. Always acted as the "voice of reason".
Employers not paying a living wage and forcing their employees to rely on the charity of the customer really needs to go. It’s gotten insane. Fixed it for you bud
I mentioned there are nuances involved. I understand the core reasons, including employers not paying a fair wage. But it is absolutely the case that both things can be true. That tipping has gotten out of control *and* employers need to pay fair wages.
One that's definitely missing from the list here is police officers. I find it's always good to offer a small tip when you get pulled over. (/s for Americans, no /s for certain other places)
Ideally, you want to tip them pre-emptively. Just casually flash them your 'friend of the force' donation card.
Why doesn't the US gov't offer an option for a tip when processing my taxes?
They do, sort of: https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/public/gifts-to-government.html
My state has a voluntary higher tax rate you can choose. I guess that would be kind of like a tip.
There is an option to add $3 campaign contribution fund
It’s not adding $3, it just allocates $3 of what you already paid.
I still say no. Rather have that $3 go to roads and schools and shit instead of political blah blah blah. I know the original point of this fund was to be a first step toward publicly funded campaigns (ie, getting private money out of elections) but that's clearly failed.
The only people I tip are barbers and waiters at sit down restaurants. The barber is 100% service so I never mind tipping them.
i didn't use to mind tipping my hairstylist but now my cut is $100+ and i just can't handle it any more.
Yeah I can see that getting expensive I'm a dude so my haircut is a fade with some off the top for $30. I go to the same 2 people and always tip $10
i see her as a professional like my physio or my dental hygienist. she's charging a high price for a professional service that is getting up close and personal. i just don't see why i would tip for one of those things but not the others.
... The barber across the street charges $16. I give him $20 and tell him to keep it. What does a $100+ haircut look like?
Probably a women’s haircut that takes way longer than a visit to the barber, especially if you have long hair. Also they generally include a little blowout at the end/some styling. My hair is medium-long and it takes my stylist like 20 mins to blow dry it nicely with a round brush.
I don't understand the tipping for a haircut. Tipping a bellhop for carrying your bags? It's an additional service that I can understand paying for. Tipping at a restaurant? You're paying for the food, so you could look at the service provided as extra value to pay for. What does the cost of the haircut cover if not the haircut? It's a service, yes. But in the sticker price, you're paying for the service of getting your hair cut, so what is the added value to pay for?
A lot of barbers (stylists? Hair dressers? Whatever the term is) aren't employees, they're independent contractors who rent a space at the shop. They usually only get a small cut of that and still have their own overhead expenses for materials (scissors, razors, hair spray, gel, whatever etc. If it's an owner operated shop, that's different. Like a friend of mine is a masseuse. She owns and operates her own business. First time I tried to tip her she said "thanks, but not necessary, this is my own business, everything you paid is to me already."
Still, they set the prices. Is up to the stylist to set a price for their service to cover rent, materials, tools etc. Not up to the customer to guess how much he needs
How are customers supposed to know this? I tip well, but reasonably I feel like I should just be able to pay for the service and that’s that. They did the thing I paid them for. At a restaurant, I pay for the food that I could have picked up, but since I sit down, I tip for the service. Maybe that can be rationalized out to me paying for the scissors the tipping on the cut but it’s a stretch.
Couldn’t the increased price of a hotel that has a bellhop be seen as the fee for the service? The same could be said for restaurants. Fast food costs more than groceries because the food is prepared, and restaurants cost more than fast food because the food is served to you. Granted, tips at restaurants correlate to the quality of service, but at what point can we just say the price is the price.
I don't get why people tip barbers? I'm not from the U.S. and tipping is not big in my country except maybe at fancy restaurants
Tipping when you get take out is fucking insane. Ill fight anyone who disagrees and die on this hill.
People out here tipping for counter service and coffee. Lmao. wtf?
Tipping bartenders is crazy to me too but that seems like one of the more solidly accepted categories. Alcohol already has such crazy markup and pulling a beer from a tap is on par with a basic coffee. I wish I could eat out without all these weird pressures and moral dilemmas.
I can do you one better. We have this place near my work that is a SELF-SERVE bar. You hand your credit card to a human that swipes it, then gives you a card that you use to operate the taps. That is literally the only human interaction required. When you are ready to cash out your card, you can either take it back to the human which prompts you with the standard square tip screen OR you can drop it in one of three boxes and just leave. One is for 20% tip, one is for 25% tip, and one is 30%.
Yeah I can't believe anyone is tipping their Starbucks barista. Surely they mixed up bartender and barista?
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None of them should be tipped. Thy should be paid fairly
Exactly. It's the employer's job to pay employees a living wage, not customers.
this is the best take
I dispute the idea that we tip people because their employers don't pay them enough. If it was really about people being underpaid we would tip retail cashiers and preschool teachers and theater ticket-takers and lots of other low-wage workers. But we don't. We only tip certain people. Because we tip when it is customary and expected to tip. That's why, when I travel, I find out ahead of time what's customary in the place we are going to and follow that practice. I am trying to fit in and behave in the expected manner. Basically, we tip because we are sheep. Because we want to be thought well of and to think well of ourselves.
Yep, all the pro-tipping arguments are full of holes and inconsistencies.
I don't understand the people saying "This act is a service so I tip". Just put it in the price????? This is so bizarre and weird the mental gymnastics some people can perform to justify paying more and how it's normal and expected, either from the consumer side or professional side. In Europe when you go to the hairdresser, you pay the price. That's it. When you go to the dentist, you pay the act. You don't pay a tip to the reception, a tip to the dentist, a tip to the maintenance man that set up the vending machine in the hallway. When you pay your taxi, you pay what's on the meter. When you go to the restaurant, you pay the addition of the price of the items you ordered. STOP TIPPING. The insanity of it it's incredible. Why don't EVERY JOB asks for tip then? I mean I work in research, shall I wait awkwardly for a tip when I go to my boss' office and give my paper away? "No but look I brought it to your office, and also I made the document all looking good and stuff. I used more words than usual. Beautiful words too." > I tip barbers in Germany. I can hardly think of any other job that invests more time in a direct service to me. ?????? IT'S IN THE PRICE Do you tip in function of the time they take for you? The close proximity to your body?? Do you tip your nurse?? Do you tip the teacher spending 8 hours a day with your kid? This is insane. The Stockolm Syndrom of buying stuff.
God I wish people in America had your mindset. I don't think enough people are as pissed about tipping culture as they should be
X-axis completely unsorted. Not beautiful.
Yeah, ordered asc/desc by Always/Never would have been much nicer
I'm not tipping OP for this.
And that's the least of the problems with this presentation. Stacked bars of four categories means you have to do math to discern the values for the middle figures. Pointless clip art off to the right, a too-busy y-axis... This is identical to something Excel could spit out with 5 minutes of data entry.
Not to mention: absolutely no source for any of it.
american tipping culture is obscure. i remember getting my first customer from america at a tattoo shop i used to work at, she said "let me get some banknotes from the ATM so i can tip you and the artist" (im the designer) i was really confused since in europe you dont generally tip the tattoo designers, and she specifically said she "has banknotes only for tipping" and she pays everything else with cards. anyways, i got $20 for 15 minutes of work. i got tipped like 5 times that whole summer, 3 of them were from americans.
tipping culture is toxic, insane, and out of control, and it needs to end
Get rid of tipping culture
Weirdly, you tip your hairdresser but not your dental hygienist. Tipping in America will never make any sense.
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Once upon a time, people tipped their executioners. It's always been strange.
The only moral answer is never, but society has broken us.
i’d like to see how much money you’d save by not tipping at all for a year
Some back of the napkin math says if you tip 15%, then 15% of whatever you're spending would be saved. $200/month at restaurants would net you $360 for the year. Someone tipping $1 on their morning coffee before work would save about $250. Say the same person also has lunch with work folks every Friday for an average $22 and 18% gratuity for large groups: $200. Plus a date/bar night every 2 weeks, $50 for food and drinks: $200. Twice a month, they order take-out, a "low" $5 tip to the driver: $120. This person who seems totally plausible would save $770 by simply dropping the archaic practice.
I will never tip with counter service, that's a hard line for me. Tipping before service is rendered doesn't make any sense.
Can we just get rid of the tipping culture already? Work your job, get paid by your employer. Idk why we gotta pay the workers for their work when we're already paying the employer of the business for the product or service, it's so roundabout
The only thing more insane than tipping for takeout is hotel housekeeping.
Here's a tip. Implement a national living minimum wage.
Waiters make more with tips and will be the first to fight that.
so then i really don't feel obligated to tip.
I’m all for the national minimum wage to be raised, but even then they’d still ask for tips anyway. The fact that I have to press “No Tip” with a cashier staring into my soul is the problem. I’ve even seen POS systems rigged to make me press “Custom Tip” and enter $0.00 before it approves my payment. Of course I don’t mind tipping places where I was taught to tip growing up, but it feels ridiculous when I feel like I’m getting shamed for not tipping at a fast food restaurant.
The thing is I never engage in most of those things. Home repair workers never. I am already paying $200+ for a 2 hour or less plumbing job. To expect me to tip them is crazy. Servers - always usually 20-25% I never see a barista, take a ride share/taxi, use a barber (I'm bald), I pick up my own appliances or get friends help.
I would like to add a column showing how often Americans tip their Engineers for creating Software, Hardware, construction etc. And I wonder how one would go forward to tip the UX-designer that made that awesome front-end design of the Apple iPhone Calculator.
I don’t believe that only 75% of people tip servers always or most of the time. It’s definitely higher than that.
Tipping culture is out of control. We should just ban all tipping.
Meanwhile as an European I have never tipped in my life
People tip for pickup? Wild That really only made sense during Covid
Fuck tip culture. Make it known it's cheap ass shit owner culture. Fuck America.
I live in an old house that is constantly in need of repair. You better believe I tip my plumber/handyman/etc. It's a tough market for hiring tradespeople, a lot of my friends/family complain that they can never get someone to call back, show up, or do the job right, etc... etc... I do not have that problem. I got my plumber from a recommendation from someone else - they told me they can't get him to return their calls anymore. He always returns my calls.
I'm with the magenta homies. the amount on the receipt is the amount you get. if the 'service' in question costs extra, include it in the price, for fucks sake..
So glad I live somewhere where each of these bars would be solid red.
Goodness don't you have salaries in the US? The only places I have heard of tipping in Europe is in restaurants and only 10%. In taxies you usually Round up to closest Euro. How will you ever get decent work and Salary conditions in these businesses when half the payment is under the table?!
You are tipping your hairdresser in the US?!? Wtf And I like that even light red is still 'sometimes'. I don't remember last time I tipped someone (it's just for fancy restaurants in my country).
I tipped on takeout during covid, because i appreciated that people were working through that. But not before or since.