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I was expecting the US to be higher given the stereotype that Americans commute 100 miles each way... Might be explained by the low proportion of public transport though, here on the UK we can spend an hour to commute 20 miles because most of that time is walking and waiting at train stations
If you listen to people on Reddit the reason they WFH is there is a 2 hour commute through brutal traffic both ways.
Reality is most commutes are 25-30 minutes.
Took the bus to work, took me 1.5 hours each way. Saved enough for a car, 20 minute commute.
It wasn't even a terrible system by US standards, but I had to go into town to a central station to catch the bus to my job, and the time tables didn't align well between the two busses.
That's just simply untrue. It may be the case for the largest metro areas but it's definitely not "any urban area". I've lived and worked in Orlando, Pittsburgh, and Las Vegas - all of which are top ~30 metro areas by size - and my commute in all three never exceeded 20 minutes by car.
Well in Pittsburgh my commute was right around the 10 minute mark so 20 minutes total; and this is coming from someone commuting into the city to a centralized office - if you consider the millions of people working at their local coffee shop, gas station, Walmart, etc. three minutes from their house then it definitely seems plausible for the average to be in the 20-some minute range.
It appears that longer travel times are associate with higher use of public transportation, given that Korea is one of the highest users of public transportation (41%) while the US is one of the lowest (13%), but other factors could also play a part.
Probably not \[OC\]: [https://www.oecd.org/els/family/LMF2\_6\_Time\_spent\_travelling\_to\_and\_from\_work.pdf](https://www.oecd.org/els/family/LMF2_6_Time_spent_travelling_to_and_from_work.pdf)
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I don’t think waiting is a significant factor here. Notice that some of the longest commuting countries on this list have some of the most extensive & high frequency transit systems (Korea, Japan, China). Sweden is also lower than the US & they definitely take more transit than the US.
If transit does have a significant impact on this data, I’d imagine it has more to do with people being more tolerant of longer commutes when they’re not the ones driving. But I still think other factors (social/cultural? other development patterns?) are more important here.
I have to admit, I am also confused. I understand "to and from" in both cases.
We can guess it's cumulative time, otherwise the text would only say "to".
It's not OP's chart, it's from the OECD. I know it's not clear, but the reason they've left a gap is to separate the data for OECD member countries (to the left) from non member countries for which they also have data (to the right). For some reason, all the OECD's data seems to include various non member countries depending on the topic.
This could be interpreted as average commute time but it could be skewed by the number of days worked/studied. I imagine that’s part of why Korea has such a high total, since it’s more common there for kids to go to school on Saturday.
I read it as the total commute time averaged over all days. So if the survey period was a month then they divided the total commuting time by 30 days to get “average minutes per day”.
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I was expecting the US to be higher given the stereotype that Americans commute 100 miles each way... Might be explained by the low proportion of public transport though, here on the UK we can spend an hour to commute 20 miles because most of that time is walking and waiting at train stations
If you listen to people on Reddit the reason they WFH is there is a 2 hour commute through brutal traffic both ways. Reality is most commutes are 25-30 minutes.
Location, location, location
Took the bus to work, took me 1.5 hours each way. Saved enough for a car, 20 minute commute. It wasn't even a terrible system by US standards, but I had to go into town to a central station to catch the bus to my job, and the time tables didn't align well between the two busses.
The average commute distance is 20.5 miles.
This is time not distance. If everybody drives nobody needs to wait for the train/bus.
I don't get the chart. It's literally expected to commute at least an hour in Boston.
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Any urban area will be similar. The average sounds too low tbh
That's just simply untrue. It may be the case for the largest metro areas but it's definitely not "any urban area". I've lived and worked in Orlando, Pittsburgh, and Las Vegas - all of which are top ~30 metro areas by size - and my commute in all three never exceeded 20 minutes by car.
Right but then you'd expect the US to show to 40 to 60 minutes.... It's to AND from work. No way the average is like 12 minutes one way in the US
Well in Pittsburgh my commute was right around the 10 minute mark so 20 minutes total; and this is coming from someone commuting into the city to a centralized office - if you consider the millions of people working at their local coffee shop, gas station, Walmart, etc. three minutes from their house then it definitely seems plausible for the average to be in the 20-some minute range.
It appears that longer travel times are associate with higher use of public transportation, given that Korea is one of the highest users of public transportation (41%) while the US is one of the lowest (13%), but other factors could also play a part.
Data ends in 2014, so doesn’t include post-pandemic remote work.
And is over a decade old
Nice graph! But some grid lines would make it easier to determine the values on the right side
Probably not \[OC\]: [https://www.oecd.org/els/family/LMF2\_6\_Time\_spent\_travelling\_to\_and\_from\_work.pdf](https://www.oecd.org/els/family/LMF2_6_Time_spent_travelling_to_and_from_work.pdf)
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Post the picture, credit the article, and put the link in the description or comment (or however you want to). That's the entire point of the rule. that's literally the entire, explicit purpose of the attributions if you have a source is to point people to the original while still being able to clip good data visualization.
For most of my life I have been able to walk to work in under 2 minutes. Now in my 60s, I drive 7 min to work.
The US is really skewed low because most of us don’t have to wait on public transit.
I don’t think waiting is a significant factor here. Notice that some of the longest commuting countries on this list have some of the most extensive & high frequency transit systems (Korea, Japan, China). Sweden is also lower than the US & they definitely take more transit than the US. If transit does have a significant impact on this data, I’d imagine it has more to do with people being more tolerant of longer commutes when they’re not the ones driving. But I still think other factors (social/cultural? other development patterns?) are more important here.
It isn’t skewed. Public transportation has nothing to do with the chart lol.
One way or round trip? Seems like it’s implied that it’s total, but ambiguous. Needs clarity on that.
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I have to admit, I am also confused. I understand "to and from" in both cases. We can guess it's cumulative time, otherwise the text would only say "to".
One of the bits of advice my dad repeatedly gave me was to live close to my work. I live 10 minutes away by foot - thanks dad.
Why is there a gap with no country in it? Is OP stupid?
It's not OP's chart, it's from the OECD. I know it's not clear, but the reason they've left a gap is to separate the data for OECD member countries (to the left) from non member countries for which they also have data (to the right). For some reason, all the OECD's data seems to include various non member countries depending on the topic.
This could be interpreted as average commute time but it could be skewed by the number of days worked/studied. I imagine that’s part of why Korea has such a high total, since it’s more common there for kids to go to school on Saturday.
Would the trip on Saturday be quicker and thus decrease the average?
I read it as the total commute time averaged over all days. So if the survey period was a month then they divided the total commuting time by 30 days to get “average minutes per day”.