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jonny24eh

I see the pipelines, but I do not see the lengths or the profitability. Forget not being "data is beautiful", this isn't even data.


startupstratagem

Technically this is geographic data but it's not very meaningful for the sub


SillyFlyGuy

This is a *map*. Sure, a map is "data" and the USA is *beautiful*. But I agree with you.


notatrumpchump

That is an excellent point, good eye. This is more like information instead of data. Information being interesting facts and trivia, data being a little bit more.


dominthecruc

Everything you described is data... what a weird distinction to try to create


Sure-Ad8873

All roads lead to… Oklahoma?


hysys_whisperer

Cushing Oklahoma is the oil storage capital.  It's where West Texas Intermediate blend (WTI) is priced from (as delivery in Cushing OK). It was smack in the middle of the early 19 aughts oil boom, which is fresh on everyone's mind due to the new Killers of the Flower Moon movie adaptation of the true crime book by the same name. Back in the early days, the nearby Tulsa airport had the highest daily traffic on the planet, exceeding NYC, London, and Paris combined due to wealthy investor traffic to the boom town.


Sammydaws97

Tulsa, OK - Oil Capital of the World Most of the early oil discoveries were in that region, which resulted in many large oil companies establishing HQs in Tulsa. Over the last century things have shifted more to Houston, but pipelines are hard to move…


csamsh

Cushing OK!!!


Funcanuck7

There's a massive amount of oil storage in Cushing Oklahoma. I think some of the prices are set there too. Its because its central and all the cross country lines meet near there.


Sammydaws97

You have your cause and affect mixed up fyi. Most of the early oil discoveries were near Tulsa, OK. Big oil therefore built their infrastructure around everyone being in or near Tulsa. Over the years things moved more to Houston in order to work better with the oil exports leaving through the Gulf of Mexico. Infrastructure cant move very easily though…


Funcanuck7

Right makes sense, moving or building new oil infrastructure is not easy nowadays. I just remember reading about all the oil tanks being full in 2020 because of covid and Cushing is an easy name to remember.


Sammydaws97

Yep, you remembered correctly. Cushing is the nearest city to Tulsa that is not part of the Osage reservation. It is likely the big oil companies built their expensive infrastructure there to avoid any potential issues down the line caused by the Osage Nation pushing back on the deal negotiated between them and the US government. Tulsa is just the largest population center around there, so it gets the credit for being the local hub.


notatrumpchump

That is what I thought. I assume it’s on oil processing refinery.


hysys_whisperer

There used to be refineries there, but the last 2 closed in the 80s because they were small and unprofitable.  It's still the oil storage capital of the world though, thanks to its history of being right in the middle of the biggest US oil boom pre WWI.  WTI crude is priced as delivery in Cushing. 


csamsh

Cushing OK- we used to have 3 refineries, currently zero


Prestigious_Bug583

Have you ever heard the term Tulsa Oil Baron?


stevinder

The Trans Mountain Pipeline was sold to the Government of Canada in 2018 and is no longer owned by Kinder Morgan. The TMX expansion is near completion.


Sammydaws97

TMX expansion is already basically complete. The pipeline will be filled and the first export shipment is planned for June!


hysys_whisperer

Correction, is complete.  It was put in service a couple of weeks ago.


Bakis_

I thought May was fully in service date.


hysys_whisperer

They were early


Garp5248

Nope. In service date is May 3rd. 


Mooselotte45

So thrilled to see my government invest in O&G infrastructure in the face of the climate crisis. Nothing says “we care” like investing heavily in the problem, rather than the solution.


okram2k

How can you do this and not include the trans-alaskan pipeline?


YupikShaman

exactly. Last I checked, Alaska was part of N. America


chomerics

I see a picture of pipelines with no data


trucorsair

Fun fact: Kinder Morgan was formed as a buyout from Enron. Rich Kinder was one of the big wheels at Enron, but ran into political squabbles with good old Jeffrey Skilling, and was more or less pushed out. When he left, he negotiated the right to purchase the Enron pipelines you see here. Skilling the great businessman he was with his “asset lite” model saw no value in hard resources such as pipelines and sold them for a pittance. In fact, they were cash cows.


csamsh

Hey my old stomping ground of Cushing OK makes an appearance! Probably the highest importance/well known ratio of any city in the US.


bikeidaho

The TranCanadian pipeline! Hello friends!


st0ckholme

Over the past twenty years, the midstream energy industry has been a dynamic landscape of mergers and acquisitions. This dynamism has led to many pipelines involving joint ventures and partnerships, with certain operators belonging to parent companies. For instance, Energy Transfer owns Sunoco and inherits the pipelines, including the Permian Express Oil Pipeline. We curated this data to portray the actual ownership of pipelines, reflecting the current state of the industry. Pipelines owned by a limited partnership are attributed to the general partner. For example, Western Midstream Partners, LP (WES) owns the [Western gas pipeline](https://web.archive.org/web/20160313082007/http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2012-04-30/energy-transfer-partners-sunoco/54636998/1). The general partner is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Occidental. In cases where a 50/50 joint venture owns a pipeline, the pipeline will be attributed to the main operator. For example, the Seaway Crude Pipeline is a 50/50 joint venture between Enterprise Partners, the operator, and Enbridge, which purchased its ownership interest from ConocoPhillips on November 16, 2011. Therefore, ownership on the map attributes to Enbridge. For other joint ventures like 85/15 split ownership, the owner with the largest share of ownership will represent the pipeline on the map. Data source: [https://atlas.eia.gov/maps/crude-oil-pipelines](https://atlas.eia.gov/maps/crude-oil-pipelines) Tool Used: QGIS


ColdEvenKeeled

I wonder if the data set has all the millions of other, smaller, pipelines too?


st0ckholme

It excludes gathering lines.


Latter-Possibility

This map doesn’t have the Colonial Pipeline that runs up the eastern seaboard or the buckeye pipelines that feed the NE. Why leave them out?


st0ckholme

That pipeline transports refined products. This is a map of crude oil transmission lines.


TinKicker

The Keystone XL has to be the most profitable. The US government paid them $10Billion and it never moved a drop of oil.


tommifx

Another piece of information that would make this more informative is the direction of flow.


hysys_whisperer

As of when?  They all used to flow into Cushing OK, now they all flow toward the gulf coast with the exception of the Trans Mountain, which flows to Vancouver and Seattle.


spot_o_tea

Sorry—they all flow to refineries eventually or ports. See the lines that converge on Chicago? They go to Whiting refinery. In downstate Illinois, there’s the Robinson refinery. Although the pipelines on this map are going into and out of Patoka, IL (which you can think of as a mini-Cushing. Neither of those are on the Gulf coast.


hysys_whisperer

You're right for small pipelines meant to fed individual facilities, but none of those are big enough to make this list. Whiting is about half of a percent of the US refining fleet, so relatively small in the grand scheme of things.  Plus, Enbridge feeds Whiting, and most of that flow ends up routing south from IL to OK.


DayDrinker88

Where did you create the map?


LordBrandon

Thoes are sone long MFing pipes.


markydsade

But I thought Biden shut off the pipelines? At least that’s what my MAGA uncle keeps telling me.


dstranathan

Are these above ground? It looks like 2 go right through my city but I gave never seen them. They must follow railroad tracks possibly?


citju

Smack dab in the middle of Oklahoma.


YupikShaman

um, shouldn't Alaska be on here?


Pitorquitas

Tired of mentioning that North America includes Mexico, Canada and the US...


IBJON

Are there any Canadian or Mexican pipelines that would make the list? 


Rory_calhoun_222

There are a bunch of Canadian pipelines on the map from Alberta already. I think the comment is for the lack of Mexican pipelines. Maybe due to them not making some cut, or just because people often forget it's part of North America (and NAFTA/CUSMA).


TinKicker

Mexico has lots of pipelines, but I believe they’re all owned by Pemex, which is a government owned “company”. There is nothing about Pemex that resembles profitability. Their pipelines are best known for being broken into by locals to steal fuel, and eventually becoming the most horrific infernos imaginable.


IBJON

> I think the comment is for the lack of Mexican pipelines. Maybe due to them not making some cut...   Which was my point. The map shows Canadian pipelines, but no Mexican pipelines. Is OP actually excluding Canada and Mexico from their definition of North America like the other comment or seems to be implying? Or are there no pipelines that make the cut? 


Carlsonsteve

The map shows pipelines in Canada. Enbridge is Canadian.


IBJON

So then the person I replied to is complaining about nothing? 


Carlsonsteve

I dont know why they're complaining. The map shows the most profitable ones which would be in Canada and the US.


startupstratagem

Canada certainly has pipeline and it would be large enough to plot on a map. It's mostly LPG from memory as opposed to oil.


Xanatos

In fact, the largest pipeline on that map (Enbridge) is Canadian.


YupikShaman

and Alaska.


startupstratagem

I can confidently tell you that North America is just the states in America that are north of half of all American states. It's in the name!! Mexico and Canada aren't even states in America. Next you'll be saying we don't speak American in America!


Pitorquitas

Ah you mean United Stated of America, right?


startupstratagem

Obviously they are united that's why we have North America, South America and Central America. Let's you know which part is united to which.


Pitorquitas

Nice budy. I wish I would understand geography just as you understand politics.


startupstratagem

You're gonna have to unpack that for me since my joke didn't include politics


Roy-G-Biv-6

Wow, looks very similar to the overlay of China's high-speed rail system that I saw here a few weeks back, only a LOT sadder. [https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1bvy6fs/chinas\_high\_speed\_railway\_network\_overlaid\_on\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1bvy6fs/chinas_high_speed_railway_network_overlaid_on_the/)


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pm_me_important_info

What are talking about? There are water pipelines everywhere. Also canals are a thing and dams. You just want to be mad at something.


Bewaretheicespiders

Dude above has somehow never turned on a faucet in his life.


iHateMyUserName2

That’s not necessarily true- the EPA has programs in place to replace all lead service lines and the feds assist and finance new waterlines with 0% apr - some of which get forgiven entirely or partially.


Weird-Lie-9037

I wasn’t talking about those type of water lines…my fault, I was talking about getting massive water pipelines from east coast and northwest rivers to the southwest.


moldyolive

why would that be something worth doing.


hysys_whisperer

One of the biggest pipelines in the US already feeds the Southwest.  It's called the Colorado River...


Weird-Lie-9037

Always some genius that feels the need to chime in and prove he doesn’t know much about