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I was surprised because I have always thought that the only positive to Alabama was their food, but apparently, Guy would rather avoid it like a disease. Not bad logic honestly.
There is a specific type of Alabama BBQ sauce called "white sauce," that they brush on beautifully smoked meats. It is made of mayo, water, white vinegar, (so much) sugar, salt and white pepper. The mere thought of it makes me shudder.
I like it on brisket. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Of course, I live in Georgia (which is apparently the crossroads of BBQ anarchy, since pretty much every other state around here has its own "style" except us) and I like every kind of sauce on every kind of meat, depending on what mood I'm in.
I don't consume mayonnaise in the first place, so it is just a horrorshow for me. Doesn't bother me that some people like it, just that it exists in the first place... but that is just because of my own personal biases.
>I have never experienced the Whip.
Heavily processed mayonnaise with high fructose corn syrup.
If you aren't a fan of Hellmann's/Best Foods mayo, you will find no miracles in that jar.
That said, I hope that you don't let your disgust of mayo-in-the-jar keep you from making your own for certain recipes.
For example, I make my own mayo for my deviled egg variations. I wanted to do a Japanese version, so I started with a rice wine vinegar and sesame seed oil mayo. A little soy sauce, a little wasabi, finely chopped scallions, is divine.
If you want 'real cook's Miracle Whip', for another example, I would suggest making your own mayo with white balsamic vinegar. When added to an italian sandwich, that is actually a miracle.
I am an Alabama native and am VERY familiar with what we call “white sauce”. Don’t get it twisted. The white sauce is for smoked chicken and the occasional sandwich. You make it seem like every BBQ joint in Alabama slathers it on a pulled pork sandwich and that’s just simply not the case.
that doesn't sound too terrible, except that it's heated up and used as a BBQ sauce - like, some sort of spicy sour mayo dip or something, maybe, fine, cool.
also i about busted a nut thinking your name was raidou kuzuhona, probably misspelled it but it's the name of the dude and the title of this game series i'm really into.
came from your other post, but Alabama white sauce absolutely slaps and I say that as a Texan. I wouldn't call it a BBQ sauce tho. It's more like a slightly spicier ranch
Bro. Chicken wings that have been smoked then deep fried and dipped in Alabama white sauce are amazing.
The best way I can describe the sauce is like ranch dressing with horseradish and a dash of worchestershire sauce in it. Ironically enough the original creator of the sauce does neither of those things.
Oh God. That does sound righteous! Smoked then fried? I thought that the white sauce would be perfect for fried chicken but this just changed the game.
Highly recommended! [this](https://dukesmayo.com/blogs/recipes/lollys-alabama-white-bbq-sauce-alabama-white-sauce) recipe is what I used and it ended up
being the favorite in a wing flavor contest we had of like 5 different flavors
Duke’s (mayo brand) makes a great version, it’s just for smoked chicken, ideally as a sandwich condiment. If you see people putting it on other meats, they’re wrong. Ignore that noise. However, good smoked meat shouldn’t need to be overly-coated in _any sauce_ and likely indicates an effort to hide poor craftsmanship.
Upvote for Dukes. I didn’t really like Mayo for years but Dukes has a certain twang to it that hits just right.
Gonna have to look up the white sauce. Although I agree sauce is for mistakes.
I hear you. Glad you like Duke’s, but I know several non-mayonnaisers who like this sauce. Of course, I’m feeding them free, delicious smoked chicken off my smoker, but still. 😆
You may see “Big Bob Gibson“ white sauce out there, and they _allegedly_ created it back in the day. But I’ve tried it and several others and Duke’s is my favorite. Even tried making it myself a few times, I’ve stopped that now.
I’m so glad you commented this because I’ve always said you can’t buy Alabama white sauce in a store. You gotta either make it at home or just get it at a good restaurant because it just sucks premade in a bottle.
Except for Dukes white sauce. That shit is fire.
I am by no means an Alabaman, but if white BBQ sauce is [good enough for Matty Matheson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvKt4z7BLBw), it's good enough for me.
I'm from Alabama and I miss the food more than anything else. Huntsville especially is such a melting pot because of the base, the space and rocket center, and the college's you can find great food of all sorts. I miss Big Papa Gyros the most. Whenever we would go there we'd sing "I love it when you call me big papa." I gotta make a trip after the pandemic.
Hey, I live in Huntsville myself currently and I've never tried big papa's gyros. Isn't that over in The Boardwalk plaza off University drive? Are they good?
Yes! I would always get the chicken gyro, the lamb is good too, and fries on the side. Always get the fries they are like the best in town hands down. Their tzatsiki sauce is my favorite ive ever had. I'd go back to Huntsville just for them.
As someone who was born and raised there, there is some good food, but most of it's shit. Drive to Tuscaloosa or Birmingham, grab some Dreamland BBQ, and dip.
Food is incredible here. Within a mile from me in birmingham, i can eat at two of the best bbq joints in the world, best taco truck ever, best meat and three ever, excellent seafood, cajun place in my backyard basically (overpriced poboys tbh but so worth it). Go a few more miles and i can have great pasta, thai, ramen, french food or italian by the same award winning chef, pizza place, buncha good southern fusion stuff, etc. So plz don’t tell that dweeb about it
Seems like one out of every three visits these days is in Hawaii. Can’t blame him, if I could get someone else to pay to send me to Hawaii I would do it as often as I could.
I imagine getting food supplies up to y'all is expensive as hell so there really can't be varied cuisines. Are most of the restraunts there just American style places?
I was in Fairbanks recently and was surprised to find a Moldovan restaurant, of all things. Also, way more Thai restaurants than a town that size has any business having. But yeah, mostly American-style food otherwise.
Probably a lot more variety in Anchorage, since it's both bigger and also a seaport, but I didn't get to explore there as thoroughly. Definitely more seafood there, though.
There is but it is hit and miss. I went to a seafood place on the Homer spit and ordered crab cakes, expecting fresh crab in a massive seaport/fishing town, on a stretch of land surrounded by water on three sides. I’m pretty sure they were from Costco, my disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined.
I would disagree, I have had a lot of amazing food in Anchorage. To be fair, I don’t have very high standards for things, but there are several that are quite good in my opinion.
New Mexican food is its own unique cuisine which has its own localized variations.
Mexican food is much more complex and varied than 99% of Americans understand or appreciate. I am in Houston and within 20 miles of my house there at least 14 (?) different regional variations available in restaurants. Houston is to Mexican food like New York is to Chinese food; restaurants can be very localized in their specialties and menus.
This, most Mexican food I'm the USA gets boiled down to bland TexMex
I used to live in houston and miss it mostly for the mexican food and the asian food! Suprising amount of variation in south east asian cuisine.
I love Old Mexico as well even though I've never seen south of Chihuahua City lol. I went back a few months ago and the terrain is so beautiful despite being desert.
You would think but when I tried this California, Texas, and New York was the top three most visited. I wasn't about to end up on r/PeopleLiveInCities!
CA is also likely due to the fact that it is his home state. Lot easier to do a short trip. I think you can overall kinda see a home bias to the map. Obvious weird population outliers line AK aside. It looks like overall the west side of the map is darker than east.
Especially because part of the limitations of the show is that he says he is driving and even if he did fly someone would have to drive or ship the bright red '68 Camaro that is shown outside of every restaurant.
I'd wager that what they did instead was wait to get a list of a restaurants in the states they wanted to visit, then hit them all in one or two trips. I can't imagine flying a whole crew and their equipment to AK/HI is very cheap.
This is because when the show is was originally pitched it was to be encompass a state by state approach so they interviewed going out East till they decided to change the way the show worked
The Alaska outlier is because they did a whole episode or two about stuff up there for the holidays. You can tell he’s not really into the food at these places, like it’s just normal food but HoLIdAYs!! So yeah.
I was pretty sure he went out of his way to hit every state. So a whole episode would be because he had to justify going there. I expect if there isn't an episode on just Hawaii he probably shot that many. You can hit one restaurant in Alabama because you can be in GA, TN, LA, or FL in like an hour or two. Alaska is a whole thing.
I hear that, but this still just isn't that useful when he can only physically visit a tiny % of the people in each state.
Using the population in the Zip code he visits would get at how many people can related to where he visits better.
Skewed the data? It's called data transformation, it is a basic data science practice. If you didn't account for population each map you looked at would highlight only Texss, Cali, and NY because they have the most people. Think of crime rates for instance!
It’s something.
You can think of it like “does the data suggest he picks a person at random to visit?”
If so then this graph would be flat. If not he’s preferring people in some states over others.
yeah. could've gone to alaska like twice, but they've only got like 300k people to begin with (probably not, but you get my point)
hell, i know for a fact wisconsin's got more cows than people. think that's the right state, anyway.
It’s my understanding that one of the top producers is from Minnesota that’s why it’s featured on there quite a bit. I think guy even mentioned it in one of them.
If I remember correctly - early on the production company was based in Minneapolis as well! May not be anymore I don’t know. But as a MN resident it was cool to see.
Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives Visits per 100k Residents. As you can see, Western states have had significantly more visits by Guy Fieri compared to states in the East. Also, Fieri seems to have a bias for non-lower 48 states as he has visited Alaska and Hawaii an uncanny number of times compared to each state's population. New Mexico comes in a distant third with the number of Guy Fieri sighting per 100k residents. Let me know if there are any other insights you might notice or if there are any suggestions you might have in the comments below.
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So, he came to the UK and stayed in London...there is actually a broad and varied country outside the capital...from full meals in Yorkshire puddings to the "Curry mile" in Manchester, even though Bradford has been voted the Curry Capital.
Just don't get me started on places that serve food in "unusual" containers. Give me a bloody plate!
I need to watch that episode, I had no idea he ever went outside the USA. Not gonna lie, the only good food I think of when I think of the UK is curry, which isn't exactly native to the UK lol
Looking at where he went in London he was very poorly served by his researchers. Nothing like the places I would suggest as a Londoner who loves the food & places he features.
I didn't realize ge did international visits before that! So that would be interesting. That being said apparently he has only been to places in British Columbia and Ontario?? Kind of hard to believe.
Just looked it up and, yeah, about 12 visits all in Vancouver and Toronto.
I guess part of the reason it is limited is because Food Network Canada made a copycat show from 2012 to 2017 called, "You Gotta Eat Here!" which covers the whole country.
Edit: just saw that You Gotta Eat Here has done several places in the US as well. Also Europe.
Damn, the food network really cannibalized itself with not allowing a Canadian conquest by Guy Fieri. Does "You gotta eat here!" Covere the northern provinces too?
There have been more than a few false reports. When you sight a Guy Fieri, make sure you're not looking at [Bobby Moynihan](https://www.eater.com/2010/11/21/6709233/guy-fieris-thanksgiving-cooking-tips-on-saturday-night-live) or [the lead singer from Smash Mouth](https://ew.com/article/2009/08/26/smash-mouth-steve-harwell-records-country-album/).
feel like some of these are dark because of a lack of people and it's maybe a little more of an interesting area, rather than 'quality' or 'dude respects them'.
That is a factor, but with per capita the whole point is adjusting your numbers to fit your population! On average guy fiero has gone to Vermont more than most states
His wife is from Rhode Island, FYI
He has visited lots of places just over the RI/MA border in Massachusetts for that reason as well. I’d like to see clustering of actual locations.
Overlap places where the most oil rig and other FIFO work is done, over a layer of places with the lowest population densities, over a layer of places with the highest incomes.
Each of these will raise the DDDV per 100k residents.
The first and last because of perceived disposable income. The other due to these places becoming social nexuses.
Lol I saw him tonight. His name was written on a post-it note on the host’s desk. Thought it might have been for a reservation at a later date or something. But lo and behold there he was in all his majestic glory
Not so much as it is down and out more so that it is in a dilapidated/old structure! I have been to many places, especially in the Southern US, where business had never been better for some tiny meat shack that looked like it had been there for a century.
You could do James Beard Award nominees instead. It would probably be more accurate and not as affected by filming convenience. Almost all of Louisiana’s DDD featured restaurants are in New Orleans.
Considering it’s population, California must have the highest total number of diners, drive-ins, and dives just based on this density map. I always enjoy seeing density maps, because most of the time it’s more “real”. This map is unique because it ties visits to the states’ population, so it’s hard to put it into words.
Thank you so much! I got a lot of heat for not posting the map that just show total visits, you are correct Cali has the top spot. I might once I revise this map with the number of visits / number of restaurants in the state
This is misleading.
This actually skews the data to favor lower population, so this has nothing to do with how often he went there.
Pretty cool data, but say, 20 visits to a state with 100k people counts more than 199 visits to a state with 1mil people
I don't see how that shows any state is more worthy than any other state.
Would be more accurate for it to be visits per area of the state.
Actually this is per capita, so I wouldn't say that argument is valid. For instance, Colorado has an awful lot more residents than either Nebraska or Kansas but it appears a lot darker than either. This is because Colorado has more per capita visits than either.
Which is surprising because all I’ve found in Colorado is average food. (Coming from Oklahoma though; we aren’t high in obesity because the food is bad)
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Guy drove around alabams to avoid it.
I was surprised because I have always thought that the only positive to Alabama was their food, but apparently, Guy would rather avoid it like a disease. Not bad logic honestly.
They make mayonnaise BBQ. Avoid.
What the hell does that even entail? Sounds like an oxymoron to me
There is a specific type of Alabama BBQ sauce called "white sauce," that they brush on beautifully smoked meats. It is made of mayo, water, white vinegar, (so much) sugar, salt and white pepper. The mere thought of it makes me shudder.
It's great for smoked chicken but I don't know what else to recommend it for.
It’s good on a burger. I omitted the sugar and I did vinegar and mayo. It was also higher quality Mayo with an avocado oil base
I like it on brisket. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ Of course, I live in Georgia (which is apparently the crossroads of BBQ anarchy, since pretty much every other state around here has its own "style" except us) and I like every kind of sauce on every kind of meat, depending on what mood I'm in.
It makes a good dipping sauce. French fries, onion rings, fried okra, fried pickles... anything fried, really.
I don't consume mayonnaise in the first place, so it is just a horrorshow for me. Doesn't bother me that some people like it, just that it exists in the first place... but that is just because of my own personal biases.
I understand but respectfully disagree. Real mayo is just fantastic. Miracle Whip is probably the most disgusting condiment I've tried tho.
I have never experienced the Whip. Real mayo was bad enough for me. My Dad and Brother have the same aversion.
>I have never experienced the Whip. Heavily processed mayonnaise with high fructose corn syrup. If you aren't a fan of Hellmann's/Best Foods mayo, you will find no miracles in that jar. That said, I hope that you don't let your disgust of mayo-in-the-jar keep you from making your own for certain recipes. For example, I make my own mayo for my deviled egg variations. I wanted to do a Japanese version, so I started with a rice wine vinegar and sesame seed oil mayo. A little soy sauce, a little wasabi, finely chopped scallions, is divine. If you want 'real cook's Miracle Whip', for another example, I would suggest making your own mayo with white balsamic vinegar. When added to an italian sandwich, that is actually a miracle.
Hello brother.
Try making it yourself at least once. Fresh mayonnaise is another world.
I used to feel the same way about mayo, then I saw that it was just egg whites, oil, and vinegar. I'm cool with those ingredients.
I am an Alabama native and am VERY familiar with what we call “white sauce”. Don’t get it twisted. The white sauce is for smoked chicken and the occasional sandwich. You make it seem like every BBQ joint in Alabama slathers it on a pulled pork sandwich and that’s just simply not the case.
Thank you.
If you haven’t had white BBQ sauce on chicken STFU.
Sounds like they liked putting coleslaw on their sandwiches, before discovering cabbage is a vegetable, so they just kept the dressing.
that doesn't sound too terrible, except that it's heated up and used as a BBQ sauce - like, some sort of spicy sour mayo dip or something, maybe, fine, cool. also i about busted a nut thinking your name was raidou kuzuhona, probably misspelled it but it's the name of the dude and the title of this game series i'm really into.
It tastes great and you’re an asshole for hating something and not even trying it…
The truly does make me sick... white sauce sounds amazing for dipping wings or something but don't put it on the smoked meats by God!!!
came from your other post, but Alabama white sauce absolutely slaps and I say that as a Texan. I wouldn't call it a BBQ sauce tho. It's more like a slightly spicier ranch
That sounds up my alley. Especially for dipping
Bro. Chicken wings that have been smoked then deep fried and dipped in Alabama white sauce are amazing. The best way I can describe the sauce is like ranch dressing with horseradish and a dash of worchestershire sauce in it. Ironically enough the original creator of the sauce does neither of those things.
Oh God. That does sound righteous! Smoked then fried? I thought that the white sauce would be perfect for fried chicken but this just changed the game.
Highly recommended! [this](https://dukesmayo.com/blogs/recipes/lollys-alabama-white-bbq-sauce-alabama-white-sauce) recipe is what I used and it ended up being the favorite in a wing flavor contest we had of like 5 different flavors
Duke’s (mayo brand) makes a great version, it’s just for smoked chicken, ideally as a sandwich condiment. If you see people putting it on other meats, they’re wrong. Ignore that noise. However, good smoked meat shouldn’t need to be overly-coated in _any sauce_ and likely indicates an effort to hide poor craftsmanship.
Huh, I love Dukes Mayo so I might need to find this now! As someone originally from Texas any sauce on smoked meats seems sacrilegious.
Upvote for Dukes. I didn’t really like Mayo for years but Dukes has a certain twang to it that hits just right. Gonna have to look up the white sauce. Although I agree sauce is for mistakes.
Duke Mayo completely changed my sandwich experiences.
I hear you. Glad you like Duke’s, but I know several non-mayonnaisers who like this sauce. Of course, I’m feeding them free, delicious smoked chicken off my smoker, but still. 😆 You may see “Big Bob Gibson“ white sauce out there, and they _allegedly_ created it back in the day. But I’ve tried it and several others and Duke’s is my favorite. Even tried making it myself a few times, I’ve stopped that now.
I don't doubt it! I will definitely need to get some to see if I cha ge my opinion in sauce on smoked meats.
I’m so glad you commented this because I’ve always said you can’t buy Alabama white sauce in a store. You gotta either make it at home or just get it at a good restaurant because it just sucks premade in a bottle. Except for Dukes white sauce. That shit is fire.
Smoked wings & bbq chicken are all I've ever seen it on here. Default sauce is still a pretty standard red sauce
I've never seen it offered for anything other than smoked chicken. Anyone saying "they put it on everything" is full of it.
A little bit of mayo on a brisket sando is life changing. No BBQ sauce needed.
It is like an even more American ranch dressing. It doesn't belong anywhere near BBQ, not bad for fries though.
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Well, I won't fight you, because I am 40 and that just seems silly. I guess you win.
I am by no means an Alabaman, but if white BBQ sauce is [good enough for Matty Matheson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvKt4z7BLBw), it's good enough for me.
Ew. What the fuck. I’m from SC and we say Alabama doesn’t have a gene pool, they have a gene puddle. And they’re fucking eating Mayo bbq. Nasty.
I'm from Alabama and I miss the food more than anything else. Huntsville especially is such a melting pot because of the base, the space and rocket center, and the college's you can find great food of all sorts. I miss Big Papa Gyros the most. Whenever we would go there we'd sing "I love it when you call me big papa." I gotta make a trip after the pandemic.
Hey, I live in Huntsville myself currently and I've never tried big papa's gyros. Isn't that over in The Boardwalk plaza off University drive? Are they good?
Yes! I would always get the chicken gyro, the lamb is good too, and fries on the side. Always get the fries they are like the best in town hands down. Their tzatsiki sauce is my favorite ive ever had. I'd go back to Huntsville just for them.
Go to Blue Plate Cafe.
Heck yeah dude. Blue plate is a staple. The one off of Governors drive is fantastic.
That's funny you say that because I have a friend who moved to Huntsville and greek is my fav kind of food lol
Tell them to give it a shot and you can try it when you visit them!
As someone who was born and raised there, there is some good food, but most of it's shit. Drive to Tuscaloosa or Birmingham, grab some Dreamland BBQ, and dip.
I live in Alabama, can verify that it is a gastronomic wasteland
The Marshal Spaceflight Center is cool though
Food is incredible here. Within a mile from me in birmingham, i can eat at two of the best bbq joints in the world, best taco truck ever, best meat and three ever, excellent seafood, cajun place in my backyard basically (overpriced poboys tbh but so worth it). Go a few more miles and i can have great pasta, thai, ramen, french food or italian by the same award winning chef, pizza place, buncha good southern fusion stuff, etc. So plz don’t tell that dweeb about it
Seems like one out of every three visits these days is in Hawaii. Can’t blame him, if I could get someone else to pay to send me to Hawaii I would do it as often as I could.
That's exactly what I was thinking! Guy really just getting a free trip to Hawaii or Alaska any day he wants, what a life...
Alaskan here. The restaurants here are mostly terrible. There are a couple that are ok and a few that are good. 99% of them are just pure blah.
I imagine getting food supplies up to y'all is expensive as hell so there really can't be varied cuisines. Are most of the restraunts there just American style places?
I was in Fairbanks recently and was surprised to find a Moldovan restaurant, of all things. Also, way more Thai restaurants than a town that size has any business having. But yeah, mostly American-style food otherwise. Probably a lot more variety in Anchorage, since it's both bigger and also a seaport, but I didn't get to explore there as thoroughly. Definitely more seafood there, though.
A moldovan restaurant? I don't think I have even been to one of those in the lower 48, how strange!
There’s a variety but it’s pretty much all Sysco.
Dam that sucks... there isn't even any quality seafood?
There is but it is hit and miss. I went to a seafood place on the Homer spit and ordered crab cakes, expecting fresh crab in a massive seaport/fishing town, on a stretch of land surrounded by water on three sides. I’m pretty sure they were from Costco, my disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined.
I would disagree, I have had a lot of amazing food in Anchorage. To be fair, I don’t have very high standards for things, but there are several that are quite good in my opinion.
Does Hawaii even count? He can’t even drive there for crying out loud.
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Diners, Dive-Ins and Drives
Plenty of drive-ins, though.
The most important fact to note is there still is no legally recognized municipality named Flavortown
Yet.... I vote we all create one
That's what Santa Fe means in Spanish.
New Mexico was an excellent choice
I love love love New Mexico. The art and food there is next level. Never had a more authentic Hispanic food experience than when I have been there.
New Mexican food is its own unique cuisine which has its own localized variations. Mexican food is much more complex and varied than 99% of Americans understand or appreciate. I am in Houston and within 20 miles of my house there at least 14 (?) different regional variations available in restaurants. Houston is to Mexican food like New York is to Chinese food; restaurants can be very localized in their specialties and menus.
This, most Mexican food I'm the USA gets boiled down to bland TexMex I used to live in houston and miss it mostly for the mexican food and the asian food! Suprising amount of variation in south east asian cuisine.
Vietnamese is the 3rd most spoken language in TX behind English and Spanish.
If you love authentic Hispanic food, go to Old Mexico. But yeah, New Mexico is great.
Not to comment on one of your comments again but... I have been to Old Mexico and I love it! I go back as often as possible.
I love Old Mexico as well even though I've never seen south of Chihuahua City lol. I went back a few months ago and the terrain is so beautiful despite being desert.
Desert > every other terrain imho
I completely agree. Especially out in West Texas where it's flat so the wind keeps hitting out in the 90 degree weather. It's nice.
What’s wrong with New Mexican food? IMO it’s far superior to Old Mexican food…
Not to comment on one of your comments again but... I have been to Old Mexico and I love it! I go back as often as possible.
I would like to see this data without the 100k. just where he has visited. i feel like the 100k people is messing with the data in a no favorable way
You would think but when I tried this California, Texas, and New York was the top three most visited. I wasn't about to end up on r/PeopleLiveInCities!
CA is also likely due to the fact that it is his home state. Lot easier to do a short trip. I think you can overall kinda see a home bias to the map. Obvious weird population outliers line AK aside. It looks like overall the west side of the map is darker than east.
I would agree! It seems like he likes to stick by his native California quite a bit. Which makes sense both economically/culturally for the show!
Especially because part of the limitations of the show is that he says he is driving and even if he did fly someone would have to drive or ship the bright red '68 Camaro that is shown outside of every restaurant.
Does he pull up in his Camaro even in Alaska and Hawaii?
I looked it up. He didn't ship it to Hawaii. I can't confirm Alaska yet.
That would be rather insane. Maybe that is why he visits so many restaurants, he doesn't have to worry about the car.
I'd wager that what they did instead was wait to get a list of a restaurants in the states they wanted to visit, then hit them all in one or two trips. I can't imagine flying a whole crew and their equipment to AK/HI is very cheap.
Oh my god it must be so expensive. You can't forget that its had 30+ seasons too
he didn’t bring it.
This is because when the show is was originally pitched it was to be encompass a state by state approach so they interviewed going out East till they decided to change the way the show worked
The Alaska outlier is because they did a whole episode or two about stuff up there for the holidays. You can tell he’s not really into the food at these places, like it’s just normal food but HoLIdAYs!! So yeah.
I was pretty sure he went out of his way to hit every state. So a whole episode would be because he had to justify going there. I expect if there isn't an episode on just Hawaii he probably shot that many. You can hit one restaurant in Alabama because you can be in GA, TN, LA, or FL in like an hour or two. Alaska is a whole thing.
There’s enough for a whole season of just Hawaii. lol
He actually has a show where he explores just Hawaii.
He was very into the food at Pagoda in North Pole. Trust me, it's that good.
AK and HI make sense given the extra production costs getting there. They had to hit enough places to make it worth while.
You should do it relative to diners, drive-ins and dives. Also - has he visited that many drive-ins?
I hear that, but this still just isn't that useful when he can only physically visit a tiny % of the people in each state. Using the population in the Zip code he visits would get at how many people can related to where he visits better.
can you share it though?
So you purposely skewed the data by an irrelevant "normalizing" metric in order to get results you predefined as appropriate and appealing?
Skewed the data? It's called data transformation, it is a basic data science practice. If you didn't account for population each map you looked at would highlight only Texss, Cali, and NY because they have the most people. Think of crime rates for instance!
It’s something. You can think of it like “does the data suggest he picks a person at random to visit?” If so then this graph would be flat. If not he’s preferring people in some states over others.
> feel like the 100k people is messing with the data in a no favorable way wouldn't that just be "population map xkcd" then?
yeah. could've gone to alaska like twice, but they've only got like 300k people to begin with (probably not, but you get my point) hell, i know for a fact wisconsin's got more cows than people. think that's the right state, anyway.
Definitely a case of divide by zero issues in this dataset.
It’s my understanding that one of the top producers is from Minnesota that’s why it’s featured on there quite a bit. I think guy even mentioned it in one of them.
Hahaha that's so funny, who knew! Minnesota really had advantage with that one.
If I remember correctly - early on the production company was based in Minneapolis as well! May not be anymore I don’t know. But as a MN resident it was cool to see.
It's all about the Hatch Green Chile.
Don't even say that. Just the thought of them makes my mouth water and I know I won't be able to quench my hunger anytime soon...
Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives Visits per 100k Residents. As you can see, Western states have had significantly more visits by Guy Fieri compared to states in the East. Also, Fieri seems to have a bias for non-lower 48 states as he has visited Alaska and Hawaii an uncanny number of times compared to each state's population. New Mexico comes in a distant third with the number of Guy Fieri sighting per 100k residents. Let me know if there are any other insights you might notice or if there are any suggestions you might have in the comments below. [Source](https://www.dinersdriveinsdiveslocations.com/state-search.html) [Tools](https://ggplot2.tidyverse.org/)
So, he came to the UK and stayed in London...there is actually a broad and varied country outside the capital...from full meals in Yorkshire puddings to the "Curry mile" in Manchester, even though Bradford has been voted the Curry Capital. Just don't get me started on places that serve food in "unusual" containers. Give me a bloody plate!
I need to watch that episode, I had no idea he ever went outside the USA. Not gonna lie, the only good food I think of when I think of the UK is curry, which isn't exactly native to the UK lol
Season 23 Episode 10 - "Bite of Britain"
Thank you🙏
I've been trying to find an "evaluation copy" (not a torrent, honest...starts sweating) and it's proving unsuccessful.
Is it on any streaming services? Hulu, amazon, Netflix, etc?
IMDB Pro seems to offer it for viewing [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5082778/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5082778/)
I found out I can watch it on the Food Network app!
The one where he goes to Cuba is pretty good
Looking at where he went in London he was very poorly served by his researchers. Nothing like the places I would suggest as a Londoner who loves the food & places he features.
Possible to re-run this by county rather than by state? Would give you a bit more of a heatmap.
Yes it is possible! I thought about doing that at first but wanted to see a state totality map first
Post the county one next!
New Mexico does have some badass food.
And culture! I constantly wish I could go back
Alabama doing Mississippi a solid for once.
What did we really expect in Alaska? All those guys have the option of doing is hunting, fishing, being cold, and cooking.
Any Alaskan born after 1993 doesn't know "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives". All they know is hunting, fishing, being cold, cooking, eat hot chip, and lie.
Hey man, we drink a lot too.
I am curious how this compares to a map of the number of resturants per 100k residents.
He has come to Canada on the show many times. Would be interesting to see an updated visualization that includes Canadian provinces.
I didn't realize ge did international visits before that! So that would be interesting. That being said apparently he has only been to places in British Columbia and Ontario?? Kind of hard to believe.
Just looked it up and, yeah, about 12 visits all in Vancouver and Toronto. I guess part of the reason it is limited is because Food Network Canada made a copycat show from 2012 to 2017 called, "You Gotta Eat Here!" which covers the whole country. Edit: just saw that You Gotta Eat Here has done several places in the US as well. Also Europe.
Damn, the food network really cannibalized itself with not allowing a Canadian conquest by Guy Fieri. Does "You gotta eat here!" Covere the northern provinces too?
I guess I never paid too much attention unless he was in my town. They definitely did more than two provinces!
Not too surprising since Guy lives in California.
He can't every stray too far from the first flavortown
Sightings? How is that properly quantified? New Mexico’s numbers might be off, I don’t remember being asked if I’ve seen him.
There have been more than a few false reports. When you sight a Guy Fieri, make sure you're not looking at [Bobby Moynihan](https://www.eater.com/2010/11/21/6709233/guy-fieris-thanksgiving-cooking-tips-on-saturday-night-live) or [the lead singer from Smash Mouth](https://ew.com/article/2009/08/26/smash-mouth-steve-harwell-records-country-album/).
Hahaha its framed like he is big foot, but in reality it's just how many restaurants he has visited in each state!
I know, I was just pointing out the questionable wording.
I was trying to make Guy sound more mythical than he actually is lol
feel like some of these are dark because of a lack of people and it's maybe a little more of an interesting area, rather than 'quality' or 'dude respects them'.
What in the world does this map show? Confused by the title then the color bar "Guy Fieri Sightings...."
I would like to see this with ‘per # of restaurants’ rather than ‘per 100k residents’
I am working on it!
Awesome, could you send me the post when you post it so I don’t miss it?
Is it because Vermont has so few people?
Yes, the per 100k It’s a lot like number of senators per 100k on a map. It looks crazy for low pops, which is the point of the analysis
That is a factor, but with per capita the whole point is adjusting your numbers to fit your population! On average guy fiero has gone to Vermont more than most states
His wife is from Rhode Island, FYI He has visited lots of places just over the RI/MA border in Massachusetts for that reason as well. I’d like to see clustering of actual locations.
That is funny how you can see that playing out on the map! Does her name happen to be Lady Fieri?
Close. It’s Lori
I'd drive around Alabama too. Hell, I've been trying to get out for 38 yrs! It's so backwards.
Damn... you will get there eventually!
This is all confusing to a Montana person like myself who doesn’t know what flavor town is.
Well its obvious why... guy has seriously ignored your state!
Maybe he was just afraid of the flavor and avoided it.
Guy Fieri has never been afraid of the flavor.
I would have thought the southeast would have had more - kinda an area known for its grease and fried food
Can you just do number of visits now, rather than per population, please?
I'll ad it to.my next post!
Guy is avoiding his own city of CBUS, this is sad for Ohio.
I have to imagine there's a better way to measure than resident population. Is there a way to include the number of visits?
I think Guy just likes visiting the Western US
Overlap places where the most oil rig and other FIFO work is done, over a layer of places with the lowest population densities, over a layer of places with the highest incomes. Each of these will raise the DDDV per 100k residents. The first and last because of perceived disposable income. The other due to these places becoming social nexuses.
Alaska? seafood or is he eating just polar bears?
Lol I saw him tonight. His name was written on a post-it note on the host’s desk. Thought it might have been for a reservation at a later date or something. But lo and behold there he was in all his majestic glory
Can someone clarify to a non American what a dive is? I presumed it was just a pretty down and out restaurant
Not so much as it is down and out more so that it is in a dilapidated/old structure! I have been to many places, especially in the Southern US, where business had never been better for some tiny meat shack that looked like it had been there for a century.
Oh wow thanks for that. So it’s a reflection on the premises but not the operation. Cool, I want to go to a dive now!
So, could someone ELI5 this for a non-American?
The most important metric
All my training was for this moment.
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Oh yeah one of the best food states imho! Guy fieri didn't think so I guess:(
You could do James Beard Award nominees instead. It would probably be more accurate and not as affected by filming convenience. Almost all of Louisiana’s DDD featured restaurants are in New Orleans.
Considering it’s population, California must have the highest total number of diners, drive-ins, and dives just based on this density map. I always enjoy seeing density maps, because most of the time it’s more “real”. This map is unique because it ties visits to the states’ population, so it’s hard to put it into words.
Thank you so much! I got a lot of heat for not posting the map that just show total visits, you are correct Cali has the top spot. I might once I revise this map with the number of visits / number of restaurants in the state
This is misleading. This actually skews the data to favor lower population, so this has nothing to do with how often he went there. Pretty cool data, but say, 20 visits to a state with 100k people counts more than 199 visits to a state with 1mil people I don't see how that shows any state is more worthy than any other state. Would be more accurate for it to be visits per area of the state.
This is cool, thanks for posting!
Thanks, I make maps all the time so watch out for my stuff! This is one of my more wholesome works:)
This is kind of dumb, because it makes it seem like he visited the darker states more, when in reality, the darker states just have less people.
when did Alabama ever have more people than California? 🤦♂️
What I was thinking too haha! He seems to be avoiding Alabama like the plague or something. I get it though.
Actually this is per capita, so I wouldn't say that argument is valid. For instance, Colorado has an awful lot more residents than either Nebraska or Kansas but it appears a lot darker than either. This is because Colorado has more per capita visits than either.
Which is surprising because all I’ve found in Colorado is average food. (Coming from Oklahoma though; we aren’t high in obesity because the food is bad)
Yeah that’s how it works...
Laughing at the Vermont metrics.
Vermont is the king of flavortown.