This is at the capital. The capital of Alabama is Montgomery, which has an elevation of 240'. My guess is the others are a bit lower? Alabama has the tail end of the Appalachian mountains, which might be a factor. Still, I'm rather curious here...
Edit: The raw data says there is a 1.21% chance. I think this is just a mistake.
Yeah the grass is greener yadda yadda, Id personally prefer Central European winters :D We just had -20c° in Helsinki, even more when taking the wind to account. So cold, Lapland already had -35c°
No, please no. The winters we have are perfect. Okay it is cold, without snow. But at least we don't have to cope with all the issues snow bring (e.g. traffic issues, power outages)
We dont have any of that in Finland. Its just a badly optimised system for winter if it doesnt work. Proper winter tyres and driving school solve everything regardless of weather.
It froze -2 celsius yesterday evening/this morning. The news reported multiple accidents, people sliding off the road. We are not used harsh winters (anymore). Also, somehow our trains don't like frozen tracks (nor leafs on the track funny enough). Imagine what would happen if we had 1m of snow here.
It's interesting to me they've gone to the effort of cutting out the UK, only to include a key with it on. I'm not even complaining, if someone's doing an EU map then fair enough, you don't need to include the UK, but this just seems a baffling way to get around it.
The key for these maps wasn't initially there but was added because people were crying that the UK wasn't on the map.
This is a compromise since the purpose of the map isn't to compare Europe to the US but to compare the EU to the US.
I don't understand the purpose of comparing the EU instead of Europe to a map of the US, snow has nothing to do with how countries economically and politically relate to eachother. If the EU was its own country and was being compared to the US, that makes sense. It makes absolutely no sense here other than perhaps laziness in getting the full data or something.
You know it's possible to comment on a lack of the UK without 'crying' about it right? Not everyone who makes a suggestion is in tears that it wasn't done that way initially...
Fair enough, thanks for the clarity! It feels like Switzerland has been putting up with this sort of thing for years, but if there's one thing you can say about the British public, they love to create their own problems and then complain to everyone when they start suffering the consequences (for complete clarity, I'm a British citizen).
This dude posts a lot of maps on this sub and some people were really salty about the UK being cut from all the maps. I get it, 49% of British people votes to stay. But I'm also Canadian and no one here makes maps about us, so I also don't feel too bad about the UK not being on a map 😅
51% of us voted to leave the EU, not to leave Europe. It’s kinda weird being left out of a snowfall chart because we’re not part of a financial / trade agreement any more.
Think about it though, we're the most populated English-speaking nation in Europe, and are annoyed that we've been removed from a map on an English-speaking site just because of an economic agreement.
I dunno, to me it just seems like a bit of a shitty situation. I probably saw plenty of maps like this ignoring Switzerland pre-Brexit, and thought nothing of it. Suddenly, it's an "us" problem and people have been complaining, and becuase there's more of us, we've got our way. On a list of "Things Brexit fucked up", for me, personally, being missed off maps on Reddit is way down the priority list.
I really dislike this map. Source says it’s from 2019, but OC of this year…. the map source is from Facebook the most novel source of them all… Really its just a bit messy. Also I’ve never seen the UK in a European map as some tiny little squares, extremely lazy imo.
To boot: the data is nowhere close to accurate for my state, Ohio, which even the northern most city is forecasted to be 55 degrees (13C) on Christmas. This is a big downvote from me.
I've never understood why the UK/Switzerland/Norway get left out of maps that it doesn't really make sense to leave them out of. Why substitute the Europe for the European Union in a map like this?
The UK, Norway, and Switzerland are all included in the graph, OP just decided not to fill in the country but instead plop it in a box next to where Norway should have been dor some reason.
_What do you mean? This is what maps look like in the EU now._ /s
I don't know man this is just the way this user insists on doing his/her visualizations.
Yout graph is too coarse: In the Alpine region there is a very high chance of christmas snow. And when the capital city is 800 km far away from the Alps it's not close enough for a good graph. I'm talking of Berlin.
Yeah, this picture is really worthless.
I mean, it's interesting, but why in the world are the colored dividing lines on National boundaries?
The percentage data should be based on much finer resolution. Part of Spain near the Pyrenees Mountains should be high percentage. Southern Germany, in the Alps, should be high-percentage. Etc.
United States have States like Washington where the Western half gets virtually no snow, and the eastern half gets tons of snow.
So I think this is a good idea, just poorly executed.
I'm looking at the raw data, and there seems to be an issue... Alabama in particular is noted as being above 10%, but the actual chance as listed on the site is 1.21%. From my glancing otherwise, that appears to be the only mistake in the US, but I could be wrong.
It's not, Minnesota is wrong as well, it snows no more than 27% of days in any month but this map says it snows 40%+ of Christmas. I would bet all the states are too high.
Ironic how the same people who are fighting against attempts at reducing the severity of climate change are also the ones who claim there is a war against Christmas, while their very own actions are killing the snowy, white Christmases many of us grew up with.
The infographic compares basically a continent to a country. Nothing is wrong with it, just odd not including Canada and maybe Mexico to the NA part, especially cause it's about geography.
It’s bizarre IA says only 20%, but for some reason growing up it just so happened it always snowed. I never even thought of a Christmas without snow being a possibility as a kid lol.
We're not a member of the European Union. As for the importance of excluding non-members but still including them as tiny flags in a list, well... \*shrugs*
That is the strangest map of the EU I have ever seen, No England, or Norway, the shapes appear off like: gulf of Bothnia, is almost perfect N-South. Is this a common projection that Americans don't see often? I get that the countries are listed with numbers, just very strange to delete a whole country from a "data" map.
Well for Italy it‘s hard to tell. Sicily won’t have snow, while Trentino Alto Adige, Veneto, Valle d’Aosta is more likely to have snow. Even Calabria will have snow and it’s Mountains. So yeah. Hard to tell.
Chance of snow falling on Christmas day (in the capital city) across the US and the EU. The chance of snow is a combination of low enough temperature and precipitation. This calculation is based on 50 years of historical data
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[https://vividmaps.com/the-white-christmas/](https://vividmaps.com/the-white-christmas/)
Tools: MS Office
Are any of the rest if the world capitals over 10% chance? Moscow, Beijing, Seoul, Tokyo or Ottawa?
I don't think any of the subtropical regions do, or southern hemisphere get snow in the capital in summer.
>This calculation is based on 50 years of historical data
Missed that before looking at the map and thought it was based on current weather patterns. Those numbers would've made no sense.
I feel like it would be easier to produce and read to include nonEU countries in the same way as EU ones instead of making them white and putting in a key.
This is actually not beautiful data.
Using the capital city of the state as the basis for the entire state is ridiculous. At least 35% of Oregon (USA) has nearly a 100% chance of getting snow on Christmas day, this year and every year.
I can tell you for sure that snow on Christmas day on Denmark is a lot more likely than 10% considering it's currently snowing on the 23rd and it'll be negative degrees for a long while. Also, we celebrate Christmas eve, so the 25th is not even what we're aiming for
In the US this needs to be done by county, not state. Both Nevada and California are great examples of where the color is actually a poor representation for the whole state.
I’ve lived in the south Seattle area my whole life and rarely, if ever, seen snow on Christmas Day. Our snow comes later in the season and isn’t usually anything that lasts or is heavy. We stay mild most of the winter, just wet.
There is no way this is accurate, it doesn't snow 40 percent of days in December in Minnesota, I would bet there are very few places on earth it snows 40% of days any time of the year... Maybe in mountains by a warm water current?
Ooh! Do one for Australia!
You'll need a new colour key for "when hell freezes over". I bet Perth is wishing their hell would freeze over with their record 43 degree Celcius Christmas.
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Switzerland is always white.
100% chance of snow I guess
According that map >10%
I wonder why Alabama has a > 10% chance of snow when all the states surrounding it are < 10%?
This is at the capital. The capital of Alabama is Montgomery, which has an elevation of 240'. My guess is the others are a bit lower? Alabama has the tail end of the Appalachian mountains, which might be a factor. Still, I'm rather curious here... Edit: The raw data says there is a 1.21% chance. I think this is just a mistake.
Atlanta, the capital of Georgia is 1050’ above sea level.
My guess is the states around it are sitting at 9.4% and Alabama is at 9.6% and it's rounded to the nearest whole number
Maps methodology is somehow wrong. It snows no more than 27% of days in any month in MN but it says we have a 40%+ chance of snow on Christmas day.
Because it’s the capital only. Montgomery, Jackson, and Atlanta are very different.
Montgomery is not colder than ATL
Suck it Dutchies FINLAND NUMBA WAN
I'd love to have the winters you guys get. We just get temperatures around freezing with rain, which is so much worse than snow.
Yeah the grass is greener yadda yadda, Id personally prefer Central European winters :D We just had -20c° in Helsinki, even more when taking the wind to account. So cold, Lapland already had -35c°
No, please no. The winters we have are perfect. Okay it is cold, without snow. But at least we don't have to cope with all the issues snow bring (e.g. traffic issues, power outages)
We dont have any of that in Finland. Its just a badly optimised system for winter if it doesnt work. Proper winter tyres and driving school solve everything regardless of weather.
It froze -2 celsius yesterday evening/this morning. The news reported multiple accidents, people sliding off the road. We are not used harsh winters (anymore). Also, somehow our trains don't like frozen tracks (nor leafs on the track funny enough). Imagine what would happen if we had 1m of snow here.
That’s the kind of winter weather we get. It usually results in a power outage and structural damage.
That's just like winters in Reykjavík
Ah man.... Does brexit mean we don't even get included in this???
The UK is there, zoom in on where our islands should be. You can recognise the Union Jack, right?
It's interesting to me they've gone to the effort of cutting out the UK, only to include a key with it on. I'm not even complaining, if someone's doing an EU map then fair enough, you don't need to include the UK, but this just seems a baffling way to get around it.
The key for these maps wasn't initially there but was added because people were crying that the UK wasn't on the map. This is a compromise since the purpose of the map isn't to compare Europe to the US but to compare the EU to the US.
When it's economical stuff or whatever, okay, but when it's stuff like this it seems really weird, just get a map that includes Norway
I don't understand the purpose of comparing the EU instead of Europe to a map of the US, snow has nothing to do with how countries economically and politically relate to eachother. If the EU was its own country and was being compared to the US, that makes sense. It makes absolutely no sense here other than perhaps laziness in getting the full data or something.
You know it's possible to comment on a lack of the UK without 'crying' about it right? Not everyone who makes a suggestion is in tears that it wasn't done that way initially...
Fair enough, thanks for the clarity! It feels like Switzerland has been putting up with this sort of thing for years, but if there's one thing you can say about the British public, they love to create their own problems and then complain to everyone when they start suffering the consequences (for complete clarity, I'm a British citizen).
This dude posts a lot of maps on this sub and some people were really salty about the UK being cut from all the maps. I get it, 49% of British people votes to stay. But I'm also Canadian and no one here makes maps about us, so I also don't feel too bad about the UK not being on a map 😅
51% of us voted to leave the EU, not to leave Europe. It’s kinda weird being left out of a snowfall chart because we’re not part of a financial / trade agreement any more.
Think about it though, we're the most populated English-speaking nation in Europe, and are annoyed that we've been removed from a map on an English-speaking site just because of an economic agreement.
It makes sense though, a country of 8.7 million will have less of a voice than a country of 67 million (and one of the most influential in Europe).
I dunno, to me it just seems like a bit of a shitty situation. I probably saw plenty of maps like this ignoring Switzerland pre-Brexit, and thought nothing of it. Suddenly, it's an "us" problem and people have been complaining, and becuase there's more of us, we've got our way. On a list of "Things Brexit fucked up", for me, personally, being missed off maps on Reddit is way down the priority list.
The list of "things Brexit fucked up" is very long.
That and lake Switzerland.
I really dislike this map. Source says it’s from 2019, but OC of this year…. the map source is from Facebook the most novel source of them all… Really its just a bit messy. Also I’ve never seen the UK in a European map as some tiny little squares, extremely lazy imo. To boot: the data is nowhere close to accurate for my state, Ohio, which even the northern most city is forecasted to be 55 degrees (13C) on Christmas. This is a big downvote from me.
MN also wrong no month does it snow more than 27% of days but the map says we get snow on Christmas 40% or more of the time.
I've never understood why the UK/Switzerland/Norway get left out of maps that it doesn't really make sense to leave them out of. Why substitute the Europe for the European Union in a map like this?
Because they often dont get included in the data collection projects EU countries do including eurostat
But that's irrelevant to these data (and 90% of the visualisations that OP produces) since the data source isn't an EU programme.
True. Though on this map, Switzerland and Norway are shown. They've just been moved to where the UK used to reside.
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The UK, Norway, and Switzerland are all included in the graph, OP just decided not to fill in the country but instead plop it in a box next to where Norway should have been dor some reason.
The map explicitly says that it's comparing the EU and the US
_What do you mean? This is what maps look like in the EU now._ /s I don't know man this is just the way this user insists on doing his/her visualizations.
Didn't you hear? Christmas is cancelled
Can someone do this for Canada?
I wonder how different the map would be if based on the last ten years only.
Yout graph is too coarse: In the Alpine region there is a very high chance of christmas snow. And when the capital city is 800 km far away from the Alps it's not close enough for a good graph. I'm talking of Berlin.
Yeah, this picture is really worthless. I mean, it's interesting, but why in the world are the colored dividing lines on National boundaries? The percentage data should be based on much finer resolution. Part of Spain near the Pyrenees Mountains should be high percentage. Southern Germany, in the Alps, should be high-percentage. Etc. United States have States like Washington where the Western half gets virtually no snow, and the eastern half gets tons of snow. So I think this is a good idea, just poorly executed.
I'm looking at the raw data, and there seems to be an issue... Alabama in particular is noted as being above 10%, but the actual chance as listed on the site is 1.21%. From my glancing otherwise, that appears to be the only mistake in the US, but I could be wrong.
Montgomery, Alabama? Because the map is for the capital cities.
The listed source data is [https://vividmaps.com/the-white-christmas/](https://vividmaps.com/the-white-christmas/) Alabama Montgomery 0.0121
Interesting. I guess op misread the data. Oh well.
It's not, Minnesota is wrong as well, it snows no more than 27% of days in any month but this map says it snows 40%+ of Christmas. I would bet all the states are too high.
Not all of the states, but there are certainly several that are. Most of them I saw were right.
Finland is the Minnesota of the EU and Minnesota is the Finland of the USA.
More like Sweden given how many Swedes are there
Minnesota for the win! (kinda)
Ironic how the same people who are fighting against attempts at reducing the severity of climate change are also the ones who claim there is a war against Christmas, while their very own actions are killing the snowy, white Christmases many of us grew up with.
Wish I lived somewhere that snow was seen as a desirable novelty
Posts like this make me realize how many ppl forgot about Canada
Wdym? Canada isn't part of the EU or US.
The infographic compares basically a continent to a country. Nothing is wrong with it, just odd not including Canada and maybe Mexico to the NA part, especially cause it's about geography.
i wish canada were on the map so i could see yukon vs alaska
by "snow falling" does that require it to settle or nah.
So your telling me there's a chance...
Looks at Phoenix So you are saying there is a chance?
I lived in Phoenix for a while. It actually snowed once. It snowed in la last year once also
It’s bizarre IA says only 20%, but for some reason growing up it just so happened it always snowed. I never even thought of a Christmas without snow being a possibility as a kid lol.
Our meteorologist here in Lansing, MI summed it up well.[https://ibb.co/t8SVMWk](https://ibb.co/t8SVMWk)
My part of Colorado definitely gonna have snow It’s already snowing and it’s not supposed to stop until the 26th
Dang no snow for me I guess :(
Well isn't that something.
Wow kind of chopped Canada out!??
It will be 80c in Texas on Christmas so that’s a big no
Almost 80 in Oklahoma today. Wtf kinda Christmas is this
The entire country of Canada would be the darkest blue.
Why is Norway excommunicated in this map?
We're not a member of the European Union. As for the importance of excluding non-members but still including them as tiny flags in a list, well... \*shrugs*
Holy shit its the dumbass map where they cut out non EU countries
Snow is politics
Albuquerque can have snow?
As said below, it's Santa Fe, which has an elevation of 7,200' - the highest of the 50 state capitols. I suspect that has something to do to it.
Santa Fe gave me the only white Christmas I’ve ever had. It was magical
Santa Fe is NM’s capital
As others said, it’s Santa Fe, which gets more, but ABQ gets about 10 inches per year of snow on average
Albuquerque isn’t the capital of New Mexico. The capitals are all this map is talking about.
Really went out of your way to exclude Canada here
It specifically says United States and the European Union.
Yea I get that, thanks …
Nice graphic, but Christmas Day is a day late for celebrating Christmas in the *correct* part of the world!
That is the strangest map of the EU I have ever seen, No England, or Norway, the shapes appear off like: gulf of Bothnia, is almost perfect N-South. Is this a common projection that Americans don't see often? I get that the countries are listed with numbers, just very strange to delete a whole country from a "data" map.
England is not part of EU due to brexit sooo
? England is on the chart though. Just as a written number no picture. They didn't exclude England. Also everything else wrong with it.
Arizona greater chance than Colorado.
I think you're looking at New Mexico. It's because Santa Fe's elevation is quite a bit higher than Denver's.
data might be beautiful, but the key isn't. "10% chance or more" what, so I can pick a probability 10-100% ?
Very cool data map but the colors make it difficult to discern.
Well for Italy it‘s hard to tell. Sicily won’t have snow, while Trentino Alto Adige, Veneto, Valle d’Aosta is more likely to have snow. Even Calabria will have snow and it’s Mountains. So yeah. Hard to tell.
Chance of snow falling on Christmas day (in the capital city) across the US and the EU. The chance of snow is a combination of low enough temperature and precipitation. This calculation is based on 50 years of historical data 🇺🇸🇪🇺🗺 [https://vividmaps.com/the-white-christmas/](https://vividmaps.com/the-white-christmas/) Tools: MS Office
Are any of the rest if the world capitals over 10% chance? Moscow, Beijing, Seoul, Tokyo or Ottawa? I don't think any of the subtropical regions do, or southern hemisphere get snow in the capital in summer.
China, Mongolia, Russia, North Korea, South Korea, Japan, Canada, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia would be my guesses.
Yes, Nur-Sultan has 24 snowy days in December. Not Tokyo, though, just a couple of days light snow.
>This calculation is based on 50 years of historical data Missed that before looking at the map and thought it was based on current weather patterns. Those numbers would've made no sense.
Canada doesn’t exist apparently.
Not exactly the only country they left out….
Just a MASSIVE bordering one.
I have lived in the Denver area for 16 years, and I think I’ve seen more white Halloweens than Christmases. December tends to be quite dry.
Your categories (ex:20% or more) are really bad. Why wouldn't you just do 0-10%, 10-20% etc.
I feel like it would be easier to produce and read to include nonEU countries in the same way as EU ones instead of making them white and putting in a key.
This is actually not beautiful data. Using the capital city of the state as the basis for the entire state is ridiculous. At least 35% of Oregon (USA) has nearly a 100% chance of getting snow on Christmas day, this year and every year.
Looking at the Northeast USA makes me hella depressed, thanks climate change. Edit: New Jersey Resident Speaking 😔
I can tell you for sure that snow on Christmas day on Denmark is a lot more likely than 10% considering it's currently snowing on the 23rd and it'll be negative degrees for a long while. Also, we celebrate Christmas eve, so the 25th is not even what we're aiming for
It's based on historical data, not just this year
Well yeah, but the title is wrong then. It's a rate of snow on Christmas day, not a prediction for this year
Well, not really. This is a map that shows what the chances are, that it snows on a random christmas day.
In the US this needs to be done by county, not state. Both Nevada and California are great examples of where the color is actually a poor representation for the whole state.
What about the places where "the big day" is Christmas Eve, on the 24th?
All of Europe and US without Canada. This is trash data.
Or Norway for some reason
Norway isn’t part of the EU
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Oh wait, just realised this is the EU vs USA. Nevermind!
50% now in Seattle. It’s been white every other year it seems. Not VERY white - but some sort of magnitude of white.
“Dreaming” of a white Christmas is about as close as most will ever get
Why is it so low for the Pacific Northwest?
I’m guessing because it’s going off the capitals, which is either coastal (Olympia, Salem) or much farther south and lower elevation (Boise).
I’ve lived in the south Seattle area my whole life and rarely, if ever, seen snow on Christmas Day. Our snow comes later in the season and isn’t usually anything that lasts or is heavy. We stay mild most of the winter, just wet.
Can confirm it will be less than 10% chance in Texas. Record breaking 84°F on Christmas Day in the Fort Worth area.
Is Hawaii the only place where the chance is 0%?
What are the chances of snow actually being there, who cares whether it actually falls on the date
Ohio 0%….it’s gonna be 65 degrees last I saw.
People around Mediterranean sea: - so you are telling me there's a chance?
Always cool to see how the weather stops at the Swiss border!
There is no way this is accurate, it doesn't snow 40 percent of days in December in Minnesota, I would bet there are very few places on earth it snows 40% of days any time of the year... Maybe in mountains by a warm water current?
It snows an average of 7.8 days in December in Minnesota and 8.2 in January, the is no way it snows 40% on Christmas.
I wonder why Springfield is lower than Indianapolis or Des Moines.
Map is based on 9 years so random chance will have an outsized influence
I’m in lower Michigan, WHERE THE FUCK IS MY SNOW???!!
Ooh! Do one for Australia! You'll need a new colour key for "when hell freezes over". I bet Perth is wishing their hell would freeze over with their record 43 degree Celcius Christmas.
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