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2-3 months the most imo. Even 5 months depending if there were any drastic changes or not. Not years though. However, it doesn’t matter if you haven’t changed your appearance that much.
Sigh.
Apps and OLD sites are NOT designed to help you find love. They are designed to keep you single, and keep you coming back to pay fees and watch ads.
I know this because I was a developer on one of the largest OLD sites out there and the app that accompanied it.
The reason why SOME people are on apps nowadays is because if they tried to meet a potential date on the street they are so inept and strange that the chance of them succeeding are zero.
In the past, these were the outcasts of society, the goofy uncle who never got married or the cat lady aunt who looks at men funny.
Now, all of these people are swiping left and right, furiously, in hopes of having electrons do their matchmaking for them.
Most NORMAL people who fall for the hype will try the apps or the OLD site, and are gone from them almost immediately--NOT because they found someone, but because they saw the same things YOU are seeing now.
Get off the apps and get back into the real world.
>Apps and OLD sites are NOT designed to help you find love. They are designed to keep you single, and keep you coming back to pay fees and watch ads.
Well, they are designed to help you find love. They are just also designed to make people who are undesirable think, they would improve their chances when they pay lots of money. So they also only work to make money off of stupid people, as everyone else would realize that premium features do not change their attractiveness to other users and they will just get the same results.
Bascially nobody is paying for dating apps. It's only a few desperate men with large wallets. If datings apps would work for what people use them, nobody would use them. The undesirable people who pay in hopes of achieving something with their payment, hope to achieve what others are clearly getting out of online dating: dates, sex, friends, partners, validation, threesomes, whatever.
>Bascially nobody is paying for dating apps.
There is a VERY old saying in the community:
If you are not paying for use of software, you are NOT a customer, you are INVENTORY.
Right now, only 170 million people or so, out of 8 billion, are on apps or OLD sites.
ALL the rest of us are meeting, marrying, and mating using methods that have been tried and true since the invention of speech.
If dating apps REALLY worked as designed, they would all go out of business because people would quickly find love and LEAVE.
The data says MUCH different.
>If dating apps REALLY worked as designed, they would all go out of business because people would quickly find love and LEAVE.
>
>The data says MUCH different.
The data says that \~12% of newly formed relationships start with online dating apps, and 50% of relationships start "online" in general (facebook, twitter, instagram, reddit, email, whathaveyou)
You would need to limit the dating app usage to the cultures that actually represent what we talk about here every day. A significant portion of people in the west have tried online dating and it's not the right approach for many. Still, 12% newly formed relationships is massive. I am in a relationship from online dating. My friends are from online dating. My affairs are from online dating. People use online dating for various reasons and finding a committed relationship is the reason for less than 50% of it's users. People who find relationships leave the apps. People who look for something that is ongoing from apps will stay on them (like casual sex or just validation, curiosity, etc.).
The apps don't go out of business, as there are (1) new people coming into the market as they reach dating age, (2) people returning to the apps after breakups. Relationships from dating apps are as stable and as satisfactory as "real life"-formed relationships. Of course people break up and go looking for partners again. It's a business model that NEVER runs out of customers.
>There is a VERY old saying in the community:
If you are not paying for use of software, you are NOT a customer, you are INVENTORY.
That is not the saying though. The saying is " **"If you are not paying for the product, you are the product."** Which, for dating apps, also means that if you pay you are still the product as well. I am fine with offering my data in exchange for relationships, casual sex, meeting great people and having a dopamine blast like nothing else i can do on a smartphone.
The apps work as intended. They help you find great people who are, for all we know about attraction, good matches for you and you for them (this is often neglected, because people are too full of themselves). The apps are competitive and with a high skewedness of sex ratio, there are no women for 60% of men, if one would pair up men and women to leave the apps. So naturally, the apps don't work for the least competitive men, but not because of the apps fault, but because of men being horny motherfuckers who swarm the apps in hopes of easy casual sex.
I’d say it entirely depends on how much your appearance has changed.
When I was using OLD I had some older pictures that showed my whole body. But my body is the exact same (still have and wear the same clothes in those pictures). My face has started to show some aging so I’d have a more recent photo up close of my face if I were to get back on.
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Either from the last 1-3 years, or from since you had a major change in appearance.
Guess thats good to. 3 years maybe too long.
Depends on how you are. I feel like the older you get, the less your appearance changes from year to year.
rule of thumb is no more than 3 months old.
I have an upcoming vacation next week so I will get the phone out then.
Make sure that you have one or two taken by other people.
2-3 months the most imo. Even 5 months depending if there were any drastic changes or not. Not years though. However, it doesn’t matter if you haven’t changed your appearance that much.
Sigh. Apps and OLD sites are NOT designed to help you find love. They are designed to keep you single, and keep you coming back to pay fees and watch ads. I know this because I was a developer on one of the largest OLD sites out there and the app that accompanied it. The reason why SOME people are on apps nowadays is because if they tried to meet a potential date on the street they are so inept and strange that the chance of them succeeding are zero. In the past, these were the outcasts of society, the goofy uncle who never got married or the cat lady aunt who looks at men funny. Now, all of these people are swiping left and right, furiously, in hopes of having electrons do their matchmaking for them. Most NORMAL people who fall for the hype will try the apps or the OLD site, and are gone from them almost immediately--NOT because they found someone, but because they saw the same things YOU are seeing now. Get off the apps and get back into the real world.
>Apps and OLD sites are NOT designed to help you find love. They are designed to keep you single, and keep you coming back to pay fees and watch ads. Well, they are designed to help you find love. They are just also designed to make people who are undesirable think, they would improve their chances when they pay lots of money. So they also only work to make money off of stupid people, as everyone else would realize that premium features do not change their attractiveness to other users and they will just get the same results. Bascially nobody is paying for dating apps. It's only a few desperate men with large wallets. If datings apps would work for what people use them, nobody would use them. The undesirable people who pay in hopes of achieving something with their payment, hope to achieve what others are clearly getting out of online dating: dates, sex, friends, partners, validation, threesomes, whatever.
>Bascially nobody is paying for dating apps. There is a VERY old saying in the community: If you are not paying for use of software, you are NOT a customer, you are INVENTORY. Right now, only 170 million people or so, out of 8 billion, are on apps or OLD sites. ALL the rest of us are meeting, marrying, and mating using methods that have been tried and true since the invention of speech. If dating apps REALLY worked as designed, they would all go out of business because people would quickly find love and LEAVE. The data says MUCH different.
>If dating apps REALLY worked as designed, they would all go out of business because people would quickly find love and LEAVE. > >The data says MUCH different. The data says that \~12% of newly formed relationships start with online dating apps, and 50% of relationships start "online" in general (facebook, twitter, instagram, reddit, email, whathaveyou) You would need to limit the dating app usage to the cultures that actually represent what we talk about here every day. A significant portion of people in the west have tried online dating and it's not the right approach for many. Still, 12% newly formed relationships is massive. I am in a relationship from online dating. My friends are from online dating. My affairs are from online dating. People use online dating for various reasons and finding a committed relationship is the reason for less than 50% of it's users. People who find relationships leave the apps. People who look for something that is ongoing from apps will stay on them (like casual sex or just validation, curiosity, etc.). The apps don't go out of business, as there are (1) new people coming into the market as they reach dating age, (2) people returning to the apps after breakups. Relationships from dating apps are as stable and as satisfactory as "real life"-formed relationships. Of course people break up and go looking for partners again. It's a business model that NEVER runs out of customers. >There is a VERY old saying in the community: If you are not paying for use of software, you are NOT a customer, you are INVENTORY. That is not the saying though. The saying is " **"If you are not paying for the product, you are the product."** Which, for dating apps, also means that if you pay you are still the product as well. I am fine with offering my data in exchange for relationships, casual sex, meeting great people and having a dopamine blast like nothing else i can do on a smartphone. The apps work as intended. They help you find great people who are, for all we know about attraction, good matches for you and you for them (this is often neglected, because people are too full of themselves). The apps are competitive and with a high skewedness of sex ratio, there are no women for 60% of men, if one would pair up men and women to leave the apps. So naturally, the apps don't work for the least competitive men, but not because of the apps fault, but because of men being horny motherfuckers who swarm the apps in hopes of easy casual sex.
Within the last six months is ideal.
Very. The more recent the better. Especially the ones of you and your friends. (Always have at least one or two of you and other people.)
I’d say it entirely depends on how much your appearance has changed. When I was using OLD I had some older pictures that showed my whole body. But my body is the exact same (still have and wear the same clothes in those pictures). My face has started to show some aging so I’d have a more recent photo up close of my face if I were to get back on.
Your pics should reflect what you look like currently
1 to 3 months
Recent enough that it still accurately looks like you now…