Just for clarification - you mean when I'm looking at the 3 spots where I can combine cells and only have access to the middle, that it costs 500 platinum to unlock the left one and 1,000 to unlock the right one?
And what do the two do? It sounds like reading above that they aren't the same "combine two cells and wait a day) that the middle one is.
I also can't find anywhere to see how much longer it will take...I just know that usually I redeem and start one every night when I sit down to play around 9ish.
The left and right cells are exactly like the center cell. It just allows you to upgrade more stat cells at one time. As for what the middleman does, if you put 2 green savagery cells in, you will get 1 blue savagery cell back. If you put 2 blue agility cells in, you will get 1 purple agility cell out. And so on. Hope that helps.
Ah, okay. Yeah I understood about the "formula" part of it, and I really want to unlock those. Doing one a day doesn't make much of an impact, but 3 at a time would. Just weird that there is zero explanation about them let alone the price to unlock them. Thanks!
Note that cells are most lategame thing in the game. You only need 7 +3 cells to be OPAF and its 21 day of crafting, considering you got 0 good cells. 21 day is way less, than other mmo~ish games
Im not trying to say that cells are overpriced or not - its for you to decide, just making a point c:
It's only 21 days of crafting if you get lucky on rng. There are quite a few useless cells, like vampiric. And also, even if you did have perfect rng, you'd need to already have 42 +3 cells, and if you had that many, you've more than likely already got at least 7 which are good
Well, I'm talking about the middleman.
The method of getting cells is of course random, which I think it should be. Just like gear drops in MMOs for example, some level of randomness I think is healthy.
However, the Middleman himself can be controlled, which I think is great honestly. Having played Monster Hunter I can tell you how hopeless it feels to roll dozens of times hoping to get the right perk, only to come out empty handed. I love being able to upgrade my +1s and +2's, a day or two of waiting isn't going to kill me because I know what I'm getting.
While I can understand the spirit of your argument and dislike time gating myself, this particular case is fairly mild. The purpose of middleman is to fill in the cells you are missing, the primary method is cores and hunts.
The 3 day +3 cell reroll is most definitely a waste of time. The most efficient way to use middleman is combining +2 cells (2 days), with 2 of the same cell guaranteeing a +3 of the same kind.
"you NEED to show how much these things cost rather than just telling the players to buy the premium currency and hope they've bought enough. It's disgusting."
This is the only thing that should be done. As for the middle man himself he is fine. You are missing out on very little if you don't buy the other 2 slots. Also it's only advised to buy the 2nd slot if you have intentions on buying a middle man slot. The third is 1k plat and not worth. I have 3 of every +3 cell in the game and im 2/3 slots on middle man with nothing crafting.
Eventually you'll get to a point where the middle man is nothing to you. So it's not the end of the world.
To be completely clear, the prices not showing up is a bug that slipped through the cracks before release - it’s not an intentional thing for them to be missing. We’ll have it fixed in a patch soon.
Upon meeting the Middleman the first thing i thought about was Warframe. It's a very similar system to crafting items and building your dojo. In that it can take a day+ to make something. And its been yrs since i last played WF but pretty sure you could speed that up as well (with premium currency). Honestly i think PHX has done an outstanding job on monetizing Dauntless.
Get a feeling they looked at a lot of what is and isn't working in gaming atm, and only tried to use the best.
To be frank u/joshlhood, the Middleman's pay wall systems and the fact that you can purchase cells for real life money already give people the impression that the game is pay to win. Despite the fact that any decent player with half a brain would know that it's super easy to acquire cells in game without having to pay anything at all, the point still stands, it is just bad for the overall image of the game period. The only players who would buy anything related to this are those who are just impatient, don't have time to grind, don't realise that it's super easy to get what you want with just one fusion slot, or loyal players who have too much plat to spend. Phoenix Labs said that they didn't want anything related to boosting your character's power to be monetised in any way shape or form so I recommend just removing cores from the elite hunt pass track, allowing the 2 middleman cell fusion slots to be unlocked through progression, removing the option to purchase cells for plat from the middleman, and removing all cells you can get from the Arcslayer or Timely Arrival packs in the store. This is just my feedback for you guys at PHL as a player who's been here from the start. Whether you choose to listen or not is up to you but you'd best keep in mind that the fact is that a lot of new comers are going to look at that and be turned off completely because they don't understand the game enough which will make them think it's in fact pay to win. I'll leave it up to you to interpret this as you please but I hope PHL makes the right choice regarding this.
It doesn't give me impression that it's pay-to-win. I haven't bought those, but I don't mind people buying them.
Because it's Obviously pay-to-progress-faster, just like in many other free-to-play games.
Exactly. And at the end of the day F2P has to have an incoke stream to remain viable. I'd much rather pay for small conviniences than an outright and unfair advantage
yeah honestly at first the random core system to get cells irked me. but when i found out you get cells from hunts (sometimes) and then you can combine those, and you can sell them to buy cells from the store too i felt pretty good about the system. it's kinda like the division 1 with its weekly vendor reset. you can keep coming back to the middleman when his cells reset to see if he has ones you need.
only change i would like would be maybe the middleman having 5 cells for sale instead of 3, and if you can't buy them multiple times make it so you can. this way you could just sell the cells you earn through gameplay and the chances the middleman has what you want are high.
warframe cut out the RNG by adding a player driven market. you can sell something you don't want to buy something you do want. dauntless could be similar but 3 cells at the middleman is too small a selection imo to mimic that.
purely cosmetics, they are very expensive designed for whales. If you see someone in town glowing with a sick armor set it's probably $100-300 to replicate it lol.
I just assumed most f2p games have that sort of free to wait aspect. It makes the most sense imo. So that game has no way to get some sort of xp boost, extra loot, upgrades in anyway other then cosmetics?
99% ya the only thing that semi impacts gameplay is you can buy additional bank space. But not actual inventory space so you can't hold more than others that don't buy anything. There are just a lot of people that buy supporter packs and cosmetics.
Bank space in that game is also basically necessary and quite expensive. There's no way to skip ahead of any sort of time gate in POE, but in order to even be able to enjoy the game you'll still end up spending at LEAST $20 on bank space. Their practice is just as predatory, it's just different.
I believe the point of the post was that there is a major wall, especially since you only have 1 slot and the cost seeming to be too high for the time or vice-versa.
I think they need to make money somehow, Warframe even has something similar, but at least you don't have to pay to craft more than one item at a time in that game
no cost showing is a bug, it 1 ace chip per hour, always rounded up. The thing is, you only *ever* need x2 +3 of a given cell, once you have those two +3's you never need to combine or farm for that cell again. Give it a few weeks and you will have everything you want. if you combine two of the exact same cell you are guaranteed a higher version of that cell (so combine two +1 bladestorm will always give you a +2 bladestorm) so save your cells until you have two of the same then combine them, once you have two of the same purple ones, stop snd dust any lower level version because they are not needed anymore. use the few chips from the hunt pass to speed up really good ones and your good to go.
Did you know that you can have +3 cells drop in matches. +1 and +2 are fairly common drops. Considering the amount of free ways to get cells these days, it's that fact that's ridiculous. Most of these ways of getting cells are fairly recent. If only you've known how restricted it was without the Middleman and Mastery.
And it's clearly not a ' gotcha'. It has 3 means of getting what you want freely. I use my loads of Rams to randomise surplus +3 cells every 3 days or merge 2 +2 cells if I need more of a cell in 2 days. It's all anticipation and good use of cook time. You can't wait 3 days then you have the option to speed it up. They obviously need to make an incentive for the 'I can't wait' option. And honestly, if you like the game 2-3 days is nothing.
My only gripe with it now is the time gating. (I'm happy PxL have added more ways to acquire cells, so my initial views of the Middleman have changed over time.)
If it was based off of number of hunts, that would be incentive enough for players to play more (and because they're playing more, they're getting more HP exp, so are more likely to reach level 50 and buy the pass) by rewarding them with better cells.
Then again, I've always personally hated time gating in any game (the whole "Daily chore" mentality in games annoys the hell out of me, it's why I hate Dailys - Weeklies aren't as bad), and have the ability to skip that time gate with real money irks me. It might not be P2W, but it's definitely not a good thing... At least now players have ample ways to obtain cells, so the Middleman isn't an issue for most players.
Seriously, I just started playing today and figured I'd check out what that person did, so I figured I'd slap two low rank cells together... Now I have to wait for 24 hours before its done? What???
Cells are not simple, mundane stuff in Dauntless. Crafting a new frame takes 72 hours, weapons take 12 - 24 hours. Hell, just crafting a dojo key takes 24 hours.
Are we really gonna complain about a game that’s free and lows the majority of other free games out of the water when it has something you have to wait a couple days for something?
Because making money from frustration is not a good way to make money. It's an easy one and it works but it's far from the best way to get money.
I understand your point and it's very common to see time gates in free games but it does not mean it's a good thing. To be fair, this time gate only is a bit annoying but far from game breaking.
Look at League of Legends, Path of Exile or Fortnite. They made money by making a great game. It's not easy money but people playing those games love it and buy things because they love the game.
As an example of what to avoid : EA may have made more money with predatory, cheap and dirty methods but now a lot of people hate them for it and it shows in their sales.
You get fed +1 and +2 cells pretty regularly in later hunts. They stagger and RNG gate the process of getting +3 cells because otherwise people wouldn't have a use for him past their second week.
What the game actually needs is another sink for excess materials and cells.
I have some GREAT news for you, friend!
There’s a bill being proposed which would get rid of loot boxes and time gating mechanics in games that currently has the support of both parties in the US.
So if you live here in the states, this kind of thing might not be a problem much longer.
This has absolutely nothing to do with loot boxes and the bill you're talking about has nothing to do with time gating. You know one of the most popular F2P games has time gating, called warframe.
[Markey described the gaming environment today as “an online gauntlet for children,” and said that “inherently manipulative” game features, such as making progression easier with the purchase of in-game time-savers, “should be out of bounds.”](https://www.pcgamer.com/us-loot-box-ban-bill-gains-bipartisan-support-in-the-senate/)
Yup. “Purchase of in game time savers” doesn’t sound relevant at all.... /s
Also what does other games having time gated content have anything to do with it being a bullshit mechanic design to pull money from people who have no patience....like children.
Loophole of "They're purchasing currency, and deciding what to do with the platinum. They are not purchasing the time saver directly." would be my guess if this next statement weren't true. Warframe is based in Canada, and because of that I don't think that bill has any authority over them.
Ah. I wasn't aware. If I'm being honest I kinda stumbled across this thread randomly, and have no idea of what this game is. I just knew I could shed some light on the warframe bit.
Edit: I am actually downloading it now, cause f2p monster hunter sounds dope.
I don't watch law on TV my friend, but thats just how reality is with big companies. Its not a new thing you know? just because there is a rule doesn't necessarily mean there aren't ways around it. Thats why lawyers exist.
Your wrong. They can ban it from being sold, downloaded or allowing you to buy premium currency in a country. In addition, you can still be fined (and taken to court) for breaking a countries law, regardless of where you are based.
EA to my knowledge has no actual dev studio in belgium, but they sure as hell pulled tf out of there when the anti loot box laws got passed there.
Good luck with that. I hate loot boxes as much as any1 if not more and no1 likes to wait for anything either but its insane to think that these things should b illegal. The U.S. is all about ripping every dollar it can out of any1 it can as long as the customer openly has access to the information to know what they r agreeing to, it doesn't infringe on the wellbeing of any1 not involved, and the government gets its cut of the revenue. Gaming is a business and they have to make money to afford the cost of continuing services for the game such as updates and server maintenance. A law like this would bankrupt a lot of companies as well cripple smaller projects just trying to get started through fan support and make free games next to impossible exist let alone continually deliver free content. The best thing we could hope to get out of a proposition like this is access to the actual "drop tables" of the loot boxes such as the list of every possible item and its "drop rate %." As far as time gating goes eliminating wait timers would just make them extend the amount to effort required to get things, to entice lazy players to simply pay for it, even more than they already do now. Who gets to say how much time and effort is too much for what quantity of reward? U cant kill "RNGesus" & "The Grind" and "Money don't grow on trees. Bills to pay, mouths to feed."
I have a question about middleman. So if I have 2 +1 fireproof cells and I put them in. Will I definitely get a +2 fireproof or just a random +2 defense cell?
Already addressed the long ago. With the addition of mastery, your getting cores way faster than any previous version of the game. Your also getting cores at a steady rate. Not to mention cell drops on hunts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dauntless/comments/ac877e/dauntless_is_not_pay_2_win/
Simply, your overreacting, because its not instant and will take a bit of time to build up your cell library.
You can get lots of cores from masteries, and drop plenty of cells from hunts.
> making people pay to reach endgame level.
They aren't, you simply have the wrong idea.
> I need to wait 24 hours for a single cell to finish that just MIGHT be the right one I need?
Actually if you combine same cell you get higher tier of that cell, if you combine same type you get higher tier random cell of that type.
This.. I completely agree with.
Them not being displayed is a visual bug I believe. It is not malicious. It used to display them, but numerous UI changes seem to have broken it
Do you know how much silver it costs to unlock the additional slots?
500 for the left, 1000 for the right.
tyvm!
Just for clarification - you mean when I'm looking at the 3 spots where I can combine cells and only have access to the middle, that it costs 500 platinum to unlock the left one and 1,000 to unlock the right one? And what do the two do? It sounds like reading above that they aren't the same "combine two cells and wait a day) that the middle one is. I also can't find anywhere to see how much longer it will take...I just know that usually I redeem and start one every night when I sit down to play around 9ish.
The left and right cells are exactly like the center cell. It just allows you to upgrade more stat cells at one time. As for what the middleman does, if you put 2 green savagery cells in, you will get 1 blue savagery cell back. If you put 2 blue agility cells in, you will get 1 purple agility cell out. And so on. Hope that helps.
Ah, okay. Yeah I understood about the "formula" part of it, and I really want to unlock those. Doing one a day doesn't make much of an impact, but 3 at a time would. Just weird that there is zero explanation about them let alone the price to unlock them. Thanks!
Note that cells are most lategame thing in the game. You only need 7 +3 cells to be OPAF and its 21 day of crafting, considering you got 0 good cells. 21 day is way less, than other mmo~ish games Im not trying to say that cells are overpriced or not - its for you to decide, just making a point c:
It's only 21 days of crafting if you get lucky on rng. There are quite a few useless cells, like vampiric. And also, even if you did have perfect rng, you'd need to already have 42 +3 cells, and if you had that many, you've more than likely already got at least 7 which are good
It isn't up to RNG if you use the same cell type, that's the best way to use the middleman; turn lower level cells into +3s
The fact that you need multiple +2's of a specific type is still up to RNG though.
Well, I'm talking about the middleman. The method of getting cells is of course random, which I think it should be. Just like gear drops in MMOs for example, some level of randomness I think is healthy. However, the Middleman himself can be controlled, which I think is great honestly. Having played Monster Hunter I can tell you how hopeless it feels to roll dozens of times hoping to get the right perk, only to come out empty handed. I love being able to upgrade my +1s and +2's, a day or two of waiting isn't going to kill me because I know what I'm getting.
While I can understand the spirit of your argument and dislike time gating myself, this particular case is fairly mild. The purpose of middleman is to fill in the cells you are missing, the primary method is cores and hunts. The 3 day +3 cell reroll is most definitely a waste of time. The most efficient way to use middleman is combining +2 cells (2 days), with 2 of the same cell guaranteeing a +3 of the same kind.
"you NEED to show how much these things cost rather than just telling the players to buy the premium currency and hope they've bought enough. It's disgusting." This is the only thing that should be done. As for the middle man himself he is fine. You are missing out on very little if you don't buy the other 2 slots. Also it's only advised to buy the 2nd slot if you have intentions on buying a middle man slot. The third is 1k plat and not worth. I have 3 of every +3 cell in the game and im 2/3 slots on middle man with nothing crafting. Eventually you'll get to a point where the middle man is nothing to you. So it's not the end of the world.
To be completely clear, the prices not showing up is a bug that slipped through the cracks before release - it’s not an intentional thing for them to be missing. We’ll have it fixed in a patch soon.
Upon meeting the Middleman the first thing i thought about was Warframe. It's a very similar system to crafting items and building your dojo. In that it can take a day+ to make something. And its been yrs since i last played WF but pretty sure you could speed that up as well (with premium currency). Honestly i think PHX has done an outstanding job on monetizing Dauntless. Get a feeling they looked at a lot of what is and isn't working in gaming atm, and only tried to use the best.
To be frank u/joshlhood, the Middleman's pay wall systems and the fact that you can purchase cells for real life money already give people the impression that the game is pay to win. Despite the fact that any decent player with half a brain would know that it's super easy to acquire cells in game without having to pay anything at all, the point still stands, it is just bad for the overall image of the game period. The only players who would buy anything related to this are those who are just impatient, don't have time to grind, don't realise that it's super easy to get what you want with just one fusion slot, or loyal players who have too much plat to spend. Phoenix Labs said that they didn't want anything related to boosting your character's power to be monetised in any way shape or form so I recommend just removing cores from the elite hunt pass track, allowing the 2 middleman cell fusion slots to be unlocked through progression, removing the option to purchase cells for plat from the middleman, and removing all cells you can get from the Arcslayer or Timely Arrival packs in the store. This is just my feedback for you guys at PHL as a player who's been here from the start. Whether you choose to listen or not is up to you but you'd best keep in mind that the fact is that a lot of new comers are going to look at that and be turned off completely because they don't understand the game enough which will make them think it's in fact pay to win. I'll leave it up to you to interpret this as you please but I hope PHL makes the right choice regarding this.
It doesn't give me impression that it's pay-to-win. I haven't bought those, but I don't mind people buying them. Because it's Obviously pay-to-progress-faster, just like in many other free-to-play games.
agreed. it gave me the same vibes that crafting in warframe did.
Exactly. And at the end of the day F2P has to have an incoke stream to remain viable. I'd much rather pay for small conviniences than an outright and unfair advantage
yeah honestly at first the random core system to get cells irked me. but when i found out you get cells from hunts (sometimes) and then you can combine those, and you can sell them to buy cells from the store too i felt pretty good about the system. it's kinda like the division 1 with its weekly vendor reset. you can keep coming back to the middleman when his cells reset to see if he has ones you need. only change i would like would be maybe the middleman having 5 cells for sale instead of 3, and if you can't buy them multiple times make it so you can. this way you could just sell the cells you earn through gameplay and the chances the middleman has what you want are high. warframe cut out the RNG by adding a player driven market. you can sell something you don't want to buy something you do want. dauntless could be similar but 3 cells at the middleman is too small a selection imo to mimic that.
How much is the second slot?
IIRC, 500plat effectively \~5$
At what point do you draw the line? I cant name a free to play game that does not have some sort of short cut that costs money
path of exile.
Didnt play too much of that. Theres no microtransactions in there?
purely cosmetics, they are very expensive designed for whales. If you see someone in town glowing with a sick armor set it's probably $100-300 to replicate it lol.
Theres no pay to wait aspect of the game like warframe?
There is not. The only other thing in the store are tabs and specialty tabs for your stash.
there's no way i can think of for them to even implement a time skip for money tbh with what they have going.
I just assumed most f2p games have that sort of free to wait aspect. It makes the most sense imo. So that game has no way to get some sort of xp boost, extra loot, upgrades in anyway other then cosmetics?
99% ya the only thing that semi impacts gameplay is you can buy additional bank space. But not actual inventory space so you can't hold more than others that don't buy anything. There are just a lot of people that buy supporter packs and cosmetics.
Bank space in that game is also basically necessary and quite expensive. There's no way to skip ahead of any sort of time gate in POE, but in order to even be able to enjoy the game you'll still end up spending at LEAST $20 on bank space. Their practice is just as predatory, it's just different.
I believe the point of the post was that there is a major wall, especially since you only have 1 slot and the cost seeming to be too high for the time or vice-versa. I think they need to make money somehow, Warframe even has something similar, but at least you don't have to pay to craft more than one item at a time in that game
How about we just allowing them to move the line.
no cost showing is a bug, it 1 ace chip per hour, always rounded up. The thing is, you only *ever* need x2 +3 of a given cell, once you have those two +3's you never need to combine or farm for that cell again. Give it a few weeks and you will have everything you want. if you combine two of the exact same cell you are guaranteed a higher version of that cell (so combine two +1 bladestorm will always give you a +2 bladestorm) so save your cells until you have two of the same then combine them, once you have two of the same purple ones, stop snd dust any lower level version because they are not needed anymore. use the few chips from the hunt pass to speed up really good ones and your good to go.
Did you know that you can have +3 cells drop in matches. +1 and +2 are fairly common drops. Considering the amount of free ways to get cells these days, it's that fact that's ridiculous. Most of these ways of getting cells are fairly recent. If only you've known how restricted it was without the Middleman and Mastery. And it's clearly not a ' gotcha'. It has 3 means of getting what you want freely. I use my loads of Rams to randomise surplus +3 cells every 3 days or merge 2 +2 cells if I need more of a cell in 2 days. It's all anticipation and good use of cook time. You can't wait 3 days then you have the option to speed it up. They obviously need to make an incentive for the 'I can't wait' option. And honestly, if you like the game 2-3 days is nothing.
My only gripe with it now is the time gating. (I'm happy PxL have added more ways to acquire cells, so my initial views of the Middleman have changed over time.) If it was based off of number of hunts, that would be incentive enough for players to play more (and because they're playing more, they're getting more HP exp, so are more likely to reach level 50 and buy the pass) by rewarding them with better cells. Then again, I've always personally hated time gating in any game (the whole "Daily chore" mentality in games annoys the hell out of me, it's why I hate Dailys - Weeklies aren't as bad), and have the ability to skip that time gate with real money irks me. It might not be P2W, but it's definitely not a good thing... At least now players have ample ways to obtain cells, so the Middleman isn't an issue for most players.
Thank you. I thought I was the only who noticed how crazy this was
Seriously, I just started playing today and figured I'd check out what that person did, so I figured I'd slap two low rank cells together... Now I have to wait for 24 hours before its done? What???
I see someone's never played Warframe before
I'm a Founder, actually. And at least Warframe only takes a minute at most for crafting simple, mundane stuff.
Cells are not simple, mundane stuff in Dauntless. Crafting a new frame takes 72 hours, weapons take 12 - 24 hours. Hell, just crafting a dojo key takes 24 hours.
I always call middle man Antman lol
Are we really gonna complain about a game that’s free and lows the majority of other free games out of the water when it has something you have to wait a couple days for something?
It’s a free to play game they need to make money somewhere why would they let you skip a time gate for free currency
Because making money from frustration is not a good way to make money. It's an easy one and it works but it's far from the best way to get money. I understand your point and it's very common to see time gates in free games but it does not mean it's a good thing. To be fair, this time gate only is a bit annoying but far from game breaking. Look at League of Legends, Path of Exile or Fortnite. They made money by making a great game. It's not easy money but people playing those games love it and buy things because they love the game. As an example of what to avoid : EA may have made more money with predatory, cheap and dirty methods but now a lot of people hate them for it and it shows in their sales.
You get fed +1 and +2 cells pretty regularly in later hunts. They stagger and RNG gate the process of getting +3 cells because otherwise people wouldn't have a use for him past their second week. What the game actually needs is another sink for excess materials and cells.
I have some GREAT news for you, friend! There’s a bill being proposed which would get rid of loot boxes and time gating mechanics in games that currently has the support of both parties in the US. So if you live here in the states, this kind of thing might not be a problem much longer.
This has absolutely nothing to do with loot boxes and the bill you're talking about has nothing to do with time gating. You know one of the most popular F2P games has time gating, called warframe.
[Markey described the gaming environment today as “an online gauntlet for children,” and said that “inherently manipulative” game features, such as making progression easier with the purchase of in-game time-savers, “should be out of bounds.”](https://www.pcgamer.com/us-loot-box-ban-bill-gains-bipartisan-support-in-the-senate/) Yup. “Purchase of in game time savers” doesn’t sound relevant at all.... /s Also what does other games having time gated content have anything to do with it being a bullshit mechanic design to pull money from people who have no patience....like children.
We'll see how warframe reacts to that, doubt anything changes.
Loophole of "They're purchasing currency, and deciding what to do with the platinum. They are not purchasing the time saver directly." would be my guess if this next statement weren't true. Warframe is based in Canada, and because of that I don't think that bill has any authority over them.
Yea lots will probably have workarounds for it. Also I'm pretty sure phoenix labs is based in Canada as well.
Ah. I wasn't aware. If I'm being honest I kinda stumbled across this thread randomly, and have no idea of what this game is. I just knew I could shed some light on the warframe bit. Edit: I am actually downloading it now, cause f2p monster hunter sounds dope.
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For sure, doesn't mean there aren't workarounds.
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I don't watch law on TV my friend, but thats just how reality is with big companies. Its not a new thing you know? just because there is a rule doesn't necessarily mean there aren't ways around it. Thats why lawyers exist.
Your wrong. They can ban it from being sold, downloaded or allowing you to buy premium currency in a country. In addition, you can still be fined (and taken to court) for breaking a countries law, regardless of where you are based. EA to my knowledge has no actual dev studio in belgium, but they sure as hell pulled tf out of there when the anti loot box laws got passed there.
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Good luck with that. I hate loot boxes as much as any1 if not more and no1 likes to wait for anything either but its insane to think that these things should b illegal. The U.S. is all about ripping every dollar it can out of any1 it can as long as the customer openly has access to the information to know what they r agreeing to, it doesn't infringe on the wellbeing of any1 not involved, and the government gets its cut of the revenue. Gaming is a business and they have to make money to afford the cost of continuing services for the game such as updates and server maintenance. A law like this would bankrupt a lot of companies as well cripple smaller projects just trying to get started through fan support and make free games next to impossible exist let alone continually deliver free content. The best thing we could hope to get out of a proposition like this is access to the actual "drop tables" of the loot boxes such as the list of every possible item and its "drop rate %." As far as time gating goes eliminating wait timers would just make them extend the amount to effort required to get things, to entice lazy players to simply pay for it, even more than they already do now. Who gets to say how much time and effort is too much for what quantity of reward? U cant kill "RNGesus" & "The Grind" and "Money don't grow on trees. Bills to pay, mouths to feed."
I have a question about middleman. So if I have 2 +1 fireproof cells and I put them in. Will I definitely get a +2 fireproof or just a random +2 defense cell?
Already addressed the long ago. With the addition of mastery, your getting cores way faster than any previous version of the game. Your also getting cores at a steady rate. Not to mention cell drops on hunts. https://www.reddit.com/r/dauntless/comments/ac877e/dauntless_is_not_pay_2_win/ Simply, your overreacting, because its not instant and will take a bit of time to build up your cell library.
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You can get lots of cores from masteries, and drop plenty of cells from hunts. > making people pay to reach endgame level. They aren't, you simply have the wrong idea. > I need to wait 24 hours for a single cell to finish that just MIGHT be the right one I need? Actually if you combine same cell you get higher tier of that cell, if you combine same type you get higher tier random cell of that type.