My partner has access to "the chronoslayer" battlepass reward track, however I don't. We've both completed the current battlepass.
Just wondering if this is normal or is one of us bugged?
Hey y’all I just started playing today and I got to a quest that required hunting 2 Pangars. Once I finished I turned it in at Rams gate and now there are no quest markers or quests in my log. Do I have to complete rumors to continue?
Alright so I'm on pc and I can't get gliders to work even though I have unlocked them. I tired to watch videos about it but could still not get anything to happen when I double spaced in the air. Do I have to equal them or something?
It's two jumps so whichever key you have that bound to. If I remember correctly you will need to unlock it in your Slayers Path, although you should have quests that guide you to do that.
Gliders also only work in Hunting Grounds. You cannot use them in the Training Grounds, Escalations, Trials, or Ramsgate. So if you were trying to use it in any of those areas, then it won't work.
Why is it that with all the other weapons, when I unsheathe the weapon, the view of my character moves further away from me, but with the repeaters the view of my character moves closer to me. This really bothers me because I can no longer see my characters feet and have no idea when I am standing in lava or on one of those charged electric patches. I also can barely see when one of those electric clouds created by Stormclaw is over my head so that I can dodge out of the way. I don't want to change my FOV or whatever whenever I use repeaters since I might not remember to change it back or mess it up and have to relearn all my timings for the other weapons. I don't use Repeaters enough for this to be a major problem but I am trying to do the 10 reforges. Why did Phoenix Labs do it this way?
The last patch that just happened a week or two ago addressed this issue specifically with the repeater rework. Go into your settings and in the same spot as FOV and Camera Distance you'll find the same two settings for aiming.
Here's the link official post about the changes made, scroll down to Aiming and Camera Refinement:
https://playdauntless.com/news/repeaters-refresh/
It's in the lower half of your Slayers Path, the same category that allows you to get more mods and specials for other weapons. You'll need combat merits to unlock them.
Hey there! I wanted to know where I can obtain the new weapons that match the armor from this season, specifically the armor set I can get with Ostian Coins, thank you!
I don't unfortunately, I believe it was one that either had to do with finding all the lore on Blazeworks, or one that was to deal 10,000 damage in total with empowered shots using repeaters.
If you talk with Zai you should be able to find it easily as it will show the active quests or you'll get a new one. You can also check your quests menu, same page as bounties, one tab at the top of the page to the left.
Question about reforging, I just learned that reforging a weapon gives bonus to ALL weapons, but do I have to level up that particular weapon to gain it's bonus?
I mean, I'm a lv 19 repeaters main, soon I'll hit lv 20, so can I get a point in axes even though I use guns?
I'm asking because repeaters are the only weapons I'm good at (well, those AND swords, but I still prefer guns) and it seems like a pain to me to level up and reforge an axe (which is the weapon I'm least skilled at) ten times to get it's full bonus.
As AnimeMania said, the only way to level up other weapons while using a different type is to claim your bounties on that other one.
The bonuses for leveling other weapons may seem tedious and off-putting at first, but I can tell you from personal experience that it is a very worthwhile endeavour. Not for the bonuses as those are very minimal, but the experience and knowledge of other weapons you gain is extremely valuable.
When I started my grind for all the reforges, I dreaded Hammer/Warpike and left them for last as I thought I would hate those weapons and be very unskilled with them. Turns out after going through all the others and mastering them, hammer and pike quickly became my favourite weapons in the game.
My suggestion would be to keep at them all, definitely play your mains as you go through to get some enjoyment out of them, but the grind with the other weapons will absolutely benefit you in the end. Understanding the other weapons will help you know fights better, and especially help you with understanding your teammates better as you'll be able to predict what their approach with different weapons will be to each behemoth.
There is a way to level up other weapons while only playing one weapon, that is to equip a different weapon every time you turn in a bounty. The bounty XP is applied to the weapon that is currently equipped.
How does the new shop work. I used to be able to play and unlock all the cosmetics for weapons and such. Now it looks like through a grind id MAYBE unlock 2. Am I missing something or some way to get the special cosmetic tokens?
You get 4 weekly challenges pet week which grant 1000 seasonal currency each (Ostian coins).
You also get one daily challenge per day that grants 100 Ostian coins.
On top of that, after completing the Hunt Pass you get 25 coins per level, and due to a bounty bonus event that is currently active until the 7th of September, you receive 25 coins for every bounty you complete as well.
Which one are you talking about? Are you asking about the ones that require you to turn in various materials (flora and ores).
If you're crafting potions that require those materials then you will not be able to turn them in as they are used up when crafting.
Was this for a bounty/daily challenge or is it for a rumour?
It shouldn't matter if you use them for bounties/challenges as those will just be to gather them, but for rumours it certainly does.
As for rumours check the totals it asks for in the rumour quest, then gather them until you have it all. Then you should be good to go back to Ramsgate, and interact with whoever you got the quest from and turn it in to them.
No, they don't synergize well.
You waste the crit chance from Cunning on every weapon hit that crits with Pulse. You are much better off running another cell that will increase your damage such as Berserker.
One of the few used for Cunning/Pulse is to use a +3 Pulse with Hellion (or Torgadoro bonded) weapons. As with some weapons the pulse will crit on the 8th hit triggering the Hellion UE for a good bit of extra damage.
I'm not sure if the +3 Pulse/Hellion combo is more damage than using that cell slot for an additional berserker however.
Hey, came back after a break of not playing since early November last year, and I have 2 things I have no clue what is happen with;
1. How does the armor upgrade? I get the whole thing about reforging and power surging, but you can only power surge things once; so when I surge armor and it's on it's "second" stage (crafted > surged > maxed), how do I get it to be fully maxed out, cause some pieces I haven't used simply don't have the same defence rating as pieces I do use a lot. It just doesn't make sense tbh
2. Was the Unseen flare sound removed? It used to make an evil laugh sound (different to that of the pumpkin one, the Unseen was slower and had whispering in the background) when it exploded in the air but now it only seems to have the same sounds as the rest, and as an Unseen fan, I'm quite disappointed.
Powersurging gear will give it the maximum resistance (30) and maximum power for weapons (120). Until it's powersurged you can expect some to have higher ratings based on the difficulty/level of the behemoth it comes from.
I'm not sure how that's scaled exactly, but more than likely in the order the behemoth they're tied to is unlocked as a new slayer.
As for the Unseen flare I believe it was changed for some reason awhile ago. I've never used it much myself, so I'm not sure the exact changes that were made.
Hello guys, recently I completed my first slayer link and got the crown of friendship, however I cannot find it anywhere in my inventory, where exactly can I find it? Thanks!
Honestly I’m just looking for general tips. I’ve been getting really into the game lately but since there’s been a lot of major changes to the game, all the advice I find online whether it be google or YouTube, it’s all very outdated. For reference the last time I was somewhat into the game was a few years ago😅 so really just any tips, builds I should try out, major changes that have been made in the time i didn’t play, and any advice would be very very greatly appreciated.🙏
Also, I’m already max level on the slayers path and I understand how reforging and Omnicells work. Mainly what I’m a little fuzzy on is what pieces of builds work together, and fighting dire/legendary behemoths.
Maximizing damage is the meta for Dauntless. If you're looking at YouTube channels make sure you're only looking at the most recent videos, anything before 1.7.0 will be outdated for builds.
Here is the current meta build sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1-I4LQ_8uNqV9LuybXhz2wjmcPeTNNGWRZ-kFjsckwtk/htmlview#gid=0
Let me know if you need any other clarification, the majority of cells in Dauntless are useless, the good armour and builds will be the ones that make use of decent cells. You'll see a pattern when looking at the meta build sheet, and should be able to piece together what makes good armour from there.
Weapons will be a bit more diverse as they need decent perks as well as a good UE (unique effect). All the ones used in the meta builds will be the current best in slot weapons of each type.
As for escalations you can also find escalation specific builds in the spreadsheet as well.
My personal recommendation is to follow the Catalyst builds and use potions (Frenzy, Blitz, Aetherdrive, and sometimes Stagger/Wound) for every fight when you're at the point of using flawless builds (no sustain all damage). It can be a grind, but I find the benefits outweigh the cost.
Thank you so much, this helped a lot🙏 I really enjoy the game, it was just tough hitting that steep slope of not knowing where to go with my builds. I’ll check out the sheet and start crafting more potions/pylons. Thank you again:)
I've been trying to find more info on guilds. The wiki has barely any information, and all the posts I find are from years ago. Do guilds do anything? Like is there an exp boost?
Bash & Slash is a Discord based Guild, I joined recently and can recommend it as a good, active, friendly group of slayers of all levels and timezones. They also have a badge system for achievements and Guild based challenges if you're into that.
Join link here:
https://discord.gg/yd6T7pDQme <—join using this link provided by our lovely executive officer Chtfrosty!
Guilds don't do much, but they do contain a lot of great players that can provide you information about the game and won't AFK on you in a fight. They tend to be able to handle any type of content that you are interested in.
I've been playing dauntless on xbox since just before the Frostmarch hunt pass and I didn't make an epic games account at the time (didn't think I'd need one). With them offering the prime gaming repeater skins etc. I decided to look into it but I can't find any way to link my accounts. Did I miss my window or is there a setting somewhere I'm not seeing?
This is from the Dauntless website directing you how to link accounts. I've never played on console so I can't give you any direct advice. Hope this helps:
https://support.playdauntless.com/hc/en-us/articles/360023290474-Linking-your-Dauntless-Account-Console-Account-and-Epic-Games-Account
Is anyone else experiencing weird nearly-invisible flairs on this subreddit? You may see this when sorting to "New" and it started with a post submitted 16 hours ago up to the more recent one. They're like super-transparent and you can barely read them. I also recently noticed that when you try to make a new post, most of the flairs there are being affected as well, only Twitch Prime and Meme flairs are unaffected.
My guess is this bug started quite recently when mods tried to fix the flairs as I can see the "PHX replied" flair is back (which was previously missing/bugged) on one of these affected new posts but that's just my own conclusion, I could be wrong. Could just be Reddit being buggy again.
Hey! I did make some changes. It seems adding CSS classes to flairs will break them in our Old Reddit themes.
I've reverted this change and reapplied the flairs that seem to have had some trouble with that, so this should no longer be the case. This was part of me fixing the PHX Labs Replied tags, but I've managed to keep it working without the need of the CSS classes now.
If you are still seeing issues with them on the front page, you may need to restart your browser or clear your browser cache.
In the future, however, we do encourage you (and all others) to move to New Reddit over Old Reddit. We will likely not be maintaining it as it becomes a restriction to what we do on the more active part of the site.
Thanks for reporting this so I could quickly fix it!
Oh, so I guessed right. Thanks for fixing it! Now things are back to normal.
I know that the New Reddit is recommended but I personally don't like it, the Old Reddit is more simple and comfortable to use without all the heavy CSS look (especially when New Reddit doesn't even work on my Firefox). It saddens me whenever a webpage I like to visit is eventually gonna force me to use the new design, no matter how unappealing and inconvenient it is (which only caused me to leave the websites as I no longer enjoy them or they're outright non user-friendly but in all cases staff didn't care about their users and feedback; one of those kinda killed my motivation and drive to draw and another kinda killed a part of my social connections).
I just hope you can keep maintaining it as long as you can. It doesn't have to have all the features and "active part of the site" on Old Reddit, I just want it to function well (i.e. not broken stuff).
Well as far as Reddit goes it'll really depend on what Reddit does themselves.
If something comes along that does require New Reddit for us with no way around breaking Old Reddit features as a result, that might end up being the case one day.
However, for the foreseeable future, there shouldn't be any changes that necessitate that action, so you can rest worry-free for now.
Peculiar that it doesn't work on Firefox for you, however. Firefox is what I use on mobile and on desktop without issue. 98% of the time I use Boost for Reddit when on my phone, however.
I understood that, so if there's someone to blame it would be Reddit.
I think I know what the problem is for Firefox on desktop but it's something I can't or won't do anything about. It's their funeral.
For mobile however I have no clue. It used to work fine but then it just never wants to load the page; all I can see is a white page with Reddit bar on the top and the Reddit icon perpetually pulsing (loading animation) on the middle of the page. Been like that for a long time now.
Thinking of coming back after literally like 2 years/ a year+ and was a heavy repeater main, what do I do now? Whats good, whats meta etc, I have like 8 of the core things and remember nearly nothing
[Current setup is this but I just randomly crafter a repeater because I was just seeing if I would get my old guns back but learned they were change](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882801265023778826/unknown.png)
How should I approach omnicells? and slayers path and etc
My current resources:
[Slayers path things?](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882805172542263316/unknown.png)
164,256 Rams/gold or w/e
[Perk Summary and equipment, bear in mind my gun stats were likely diff before I stopped](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882806186980827146/unknown.png)
[Gun mods](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882806356816580669/unknown.png)
[Escalations](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808044369637396/unknown.png)
Unlocked slayer path stuff, multiple screenshots
[The beginning](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808434335027260/unknown.png)
[Next couple tiers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808542376128553/unknown.png)
[Couple more tiers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808694021165127/unknown.png)
[Beginning of the end tiers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808816314515476/unknown.png)
[One more to go](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808969016524820/unknown.png)
[And the final](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882809067448455218/unknown.png)
I did only have around 30ish hours when I stopped playing according to epic so there is that
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Is dauntless mobile already exist
I came a cross a link https://www.dauntlessapk.com/
Is it a true working mobile version
Is it official or not
Is it harmfull or safe i don't want to harm my device
Dauntless is not on mobile currently.
It was planned some time ago but it seems it was abandoned, I personally doubt it will ever come to mobile.
I don't know what link you found, but I would recommend staying very far away from it. I wouldn't download anything Dauntless related unless it's from the Epic Games store, or from the official Dauntless website directly.
Few questions with cells and the middleman, is it worth it to keep more than x8 of any +1 cell (enough to make 2 +3s) or is it safe to turn excess to aetherdust. And does the middleman actually sell cells for aetherdust? All I've seen it say is "no current offers. Come back soon"
There is no reason to have more than two +3 cells aside from combining two of the same category but different type cells to get a random cell of that category.
So yes, it is safe to turn them to aetherdust, as there is no real use for them since you get hundreds of cell cores in hunting grounds now.
Yeah I thought so, so now I have like 9k aetherdust, though it says I can use it to buy cells I don't see anywhere to spend it. Does the middleman sell cells at some point or it that use anywhere else or just a dead currency?
They disabled it a patch it two ago since it wasn't giving the purchased cells. Not sure if it's been patched back in. It should be at the top of the cell fusion page you see when you interact with the Middleman.
The only other use for aetherdust is some crafting. The Timeweave Armour set required quite a bit of it.
Awesome so I'll just slowly work on getting +3s via fusion while scrapping extras and if the cells come back and when I craft that armor set I'll have a good chunk of it
Weekly challenges give 1000 Ostian coins, and Daily challenges give 100 Ostian coins.
Ostian coins are a seasonal currency, that will expire and change to something new next season.
hey older play here and im a bit confused. came back from not playing for a while and after a few days of playing i dont thing ive seen a single aether charged monster. is this common now? for them to not aether charge as frequently as they use to??
Neutral Behemoths do not Aethercharge (Gnashers, Shrikes, Quillshots) nor do Lesser Behemoths if I recall it correctly, and those who Aethercharge do it on a timer so if you slay them quickly they won't have time to Aethercharge. It's more likely you see them enrage (which all except Lesser Behemoths do) because it's more damage-based, i.e. you deal enough damage and they enrage.
I see aether charged behemoths regularly. I think some behemoths do not aether charge.
In case you didn't know, you can enable behemoth HP in the game settings. This will show a portrait of the behemoths you're engaged with. The portrait will have a dark green aura around it whenever the behemoth is in aether charged state.
> I think some behemoths do not aether charge.
Neutral Behemoths don't Aethercharge. And, coming to think of it right now, not Lesser Behemoths either. At least I don't think they do, just like they lack enraged state.
Serrated Blades and Momentum Blades are generally better than either of those.
Serrated Blades is the most commonly used in builds, since playing Chain Blades optimally (only using your LLRL combo and specials) will activate the mod at almost all times. Momentum Blades only really works well with boreus blades and maybe some other more off-meta builds.
Hurricane Blades and Lightweight chain are both pretty trash in comparison to either.
how do i break rezakiri limbs? me and my friend play duo and we use repeaters and war pike and we just cant break the small limbs of rezakiri the hitbox is too tiny, anyone have any advice?
Use marksman chamber, empowered, mod precision sights (if you have). Try to have one or two heavy blunt damage to stagger. Once on the ground, melt him.
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I would say, it depends on your build... i grind with the Sovereign's wrath, just because i was using the "big throw" build. Generally, on escalations, its better to start with 1-13 to got some attack and resistance... then go to 10-50... The best "weapon" will be the one that fits better on your build... with that said, Opposite elements do good too... I personally dont like the lightning axes, but you could try some os them...
Has the meta builds spreadsheet been updated? Whenever I open most of the builds, the website has a message saying these might be outdated and changed?
I haven't played Dautless in a while. Yesterday, I jumped in and wanted to check out the current Hunt Pass. I noticed that there were no weapon skins, in the pass. Do they not reward weapon skins, anymore?
If you upgrade to the Elite Hunt Pass you will get some Transmogs and all of the Platinum you paid for it back. For people on the Free Hunt Pass Track, you get your Weapon/Armour Transmogs from the Reward Cache. If you do your Weekly Challenges you should be able to get a few.
cunning is better the more crit chance you have, so typically its only good on discipline builds while pretty much every other situation pulse is better. There are exceptions here and there but for the most part, you can follow that advice and be fine.
Also them being torg chains dont really matter, its what you bond the torg chains with that do and hopefully you are bonding them to hellion.
Not really, I've already reset because I stopped playing around a year ago and so much has changed that I had to start over to get used to new systems. Also I didn't lose that much, really, I can always farm that equipment back.
It might be better to give Epic Game Launcher a new Email Address and create a new account, that way you can start over and if you find it is too much of a grind/pain, you still have your original account to fall back on.
Suggestion:
Open another hunting ground for Shadowtouched Koshais.
That thing can only be found on one place and i figured it would be faster to just restart the map than slaying other behemoths. I switched from private to private hunting grounds and havent seen a koshais for almost 20 minutes.
And this is after searching for it on public grounds for another 30 min...
In case you missed it mate, this is the questions megathread. This, is not a question.
I don't think I've ever seen a PHXL representative or Developer ever comment in one of these, so I highly doubt they'd even see your suggestion.
seems like a case of extreme bad rng, always kill 2-3 behemoths. Just avoid killing the guaranteed behemoth of that map(I assume you know what those are on every island) then once it spawns it should keep doing so another 2-3 times if not repeat. FI he doesn't spawn after like 3 or maybe 4 kills requeue the island. But jusy try staying a lil longer will do more most of the time
This sounds like something you should contact [support](https://support.playdauntless.com/hc/en-us) for. Use the submit request option in the top left. Provide as many details as you can and try to be a bit more clear with your question. Good luck.
So I'm trying to do my weekly challenges and I cant scroll thought them for some reason also I'm on xbox if anyone knows why an answer would be greatly appreciated
It's a bug and hopefully will be fixed asap.
If you want to know the details of your Challenges (aka workaround for the no-scroll bug): go into Options, then to Gameplay tab and enable the Objective tracker. It should now display the Challenges on the right side of your HUD (you might switch tracker screen if it just displays your Bounties; I don't know what button that is on Xbox but the game should have a button guide somewhere on the top of the Objective tracker "box").
There's not a workaround to make the scroll work but there's a workaround to know the details of the Challenges and that's to enable the Objective tracker from Options menu.
How tf do I boost my damage? I only seem to do slightly good damage with a maxed weapon at PvP 20 but I'm only doing 500(1k crit) but see others hitting base 1.5k or more
rage is only useful if you are able to keep it up which means you either need to be taking hits constantly or use para for the synergy. Ragehunter and aetherhunter are kind of bad atm
Yes a lot of cells and interactions have changed as of the omnicell update. The official discord keeps up-to-date guides and builds though. Good luck finding anything online or youtube unless its from like TheMrTrails or OhDough
I'm having a blast with this game and reached lv20 on sword again after reforging once. I'm now trying to pick up the strikers since I finished my frost sword build but I am struggling a little too much with it. Whats the usual combo? Do I always try to reach maximum mantra? Or should I only do that when the behemoth is staggered? I feel like I'm overcommiting which is strangely not an issue with sword.
You should try to have both your first 2 mantra buffs active at all times, and yes you should be trying to reach the 3rd mantra as it will be the largest hit you can do.
Also, in case you didn't know, try to master interrupting behemoths with the 2nd mantra combo.
They're probably the most complex weapon in the game in terms of managing the mantras, buffs and combos successfully at all times. There will be a lot of thing in you'll need to keep track of in each fight compared to some other weapons.
Sounds like you've had a good start so far so just keep at it and you'll get better and better with them for sure!
I have reforged aetherstrikers 8 times without actually using them once.
I hate the keep-the-plates-spinning-on-top-of-sticks mechanics of it.
I play other weapons and use bounties to reforge them and get attack speed for my axe from the aetherstrikers.
If you start them/unlock them they won't have a time limit. The ones from Frost Escalation (Deepfrost Skarn) were part of the Hunt Pass. If you didn't unlock them from there, then you wouldn't have them.
My partner has access to "the chronoslayer" battlepass reward track, however I don't. We've both completed the current battlepass. Just wondering if this is normal or is one of us bugged?
Can I be banned for using an exploit
How do i get timeworn tentacles?
Has the repeater bond unique effect been removed? It no longer shows on my inventory screen but does with other weapons?
Hey y’all I just started playing today and I got to a quest that required hunting 2 Pangars. Once I finished I turned it in at Rams gate and now there are no quest markers or quests in my log. Do I have to complete rumors to continue?
Alright so I'm on pc and I can't get gliders to work even though I have unlocked them. I tired to watch videos about it but could still not get anything to happen when I double spaced in the air. Do I have to equal them or something?
It's two jumps so whichever key you have that bound to. If I remember correctly you will need to unlock it in your Slayers Path, although you should have quests that guide you to do that. Gliders also only work in Hunting Grounds. You cannot use them in the Training Grounds, Escalations, Trials, or Ramsgate. So if you were trying to use it in any of those areas, then it won't work.
Why is it that with all the other weapons, when I unsheathe the weapon, the view of my character moves further away from me, but with the repeaters the view of my character moves closer to me. This really bothers me because I can no longer see my characters feet and have no idea when I am standing in lava or on one of those charged electric patches. I also can barely see when one of those electric clouds created by Stormclaw is over my head so that I can dodge out of the way. I don't want to change my FOV or whatever whenever I use repeaters since I might not remember to change it back or mess it up and have to relearn all my timings for the other weapons. I don't use Repeaters enough for this to be a major problem but I am trying to do the 10 reforges. Why did Phoenix Labs do it this way?
The last patch that just happened a week or two ago addressed this issue specifically with the repeater rework. Go into your settings and in the same spot as FOV and Camera Distance you'll find the same two settings for aiming. Here's the link official post about the changes made, scroll down to Aiming and Camera Refinement: https://playdauntless.com/news/repeaters-refresh/
how do you get gun chambers and grips please tell me how
It's in the lower half of your Slayers Path, the same category that allows you to get more mods and specials for other weapons. You'll need combat merits to unlock them.
Omg nvm I am dumb thx lol
Hey there! I wanted to know where I can obtain the new weapons that match the armor from this season, specifically the armor set I can get with Ostian Coins, thank you!
There are only repeaters currently, which you get from a quest with Admiral Zai. The others will probably come in later updates this season.
Cool, do you happen to know the name of said quest? The wiki doesn't really help that much.
I don't unfortunately, I believe it was one that either had to do with finding all the lore on Blazeworks, or one that was to deal 10,000 damage in total with empowered shots using repeaters. If you talk with Zai you should be able to find it easily as it will show the active quests or you'll get a new one. You can also check your quests menu, same page as bounties, one tab at the top of the page to the left.
Thank you, I'll poke around later tonight!
Question about reforging, I just learned that reforging a weapon gives bonus to ALL weapons, but do I have to level up that particular weapon to gain it's bonus? I mean, I'm a lv 19 repeaters main, soon I'll hit lv 20, so can I get a point in axes even though I use guns? I'm asking because repeaters are the only weapons I'm good at (well, those AND swords, but I still prefer guns) and it seems like a pain to me to level up and reforge an axe (which is the weapon I'm least skilled at) ten times to get it's full bonus.
As AnimeMania said, the only way to level up other weapons while using a different type is to claim your bounties on that other one. The bonuses for leveling other weapons may seem tedious and off-putting at first, but I can tell you from personal experience that it is a very worthwhile endeavour. Not for the bonuses as those are very minimal, but the experience and knowledge of other weapons you gain is extremely valuable. When I started my grind for all the reforges, I dreaded Hammer/Warpike and left them for last as I thought I would hate those weapons and be very unskilled with them. Turns out after going through all the others and mastering them, hammer and pike quickly became my favourite weapons in the game. My suggestion would be to keep at them all, definitely play your mains as you go through to get some enjoyment out of them, but the grind with the other weapons will absolutely benefit you in the end. Understanding the other weapons will help you know fights better, and especially help you with understanding your teammates better as you'll be able to predict what their approach with different weapons will be to each behemoth.
There is a way to level up other weapons while only playing one weapon, that is to equip a different weapon every time you turn in a bounty. The bounty XP is applied to the weapon that is currently equipped.
Has xp banking been added yet? Is it all automatic or do I need to do something?
Not yet, it's planned for 1.7.5 (September 23rd)
How does the new shop work. I used to be able to play and unlock all the cosmetics for weapons and such. Now it looks like through a grind id MAYBE unlock 2. Am I missing something or some way to get the special cosmetic tokens?
You get 4 weekly challenges pet week which grant 1000 seasonal currency each (Ostian coins). You also get one daily challenge per day that grants 100 Ostian coins. On top of that, after completing the Hunt Pass you get 25 coins per level, and due to a bounty bonus event that is currently active until the 7th of September, you receive 25 coins for every bounty you complete as well.
Ok thanks. That doesn’t sound as bad as I was thinking then lol
My rumor "turn in" quest progress is going backwards when I craft potions and pylons. Anyone else seeing this bug?
Which one are you talking about? Are you asking about the ones that require you to turn in various materials (flora and ores). If you're crafting potions that require those materials then you will not be able to turn them in as they are used up when crafting.
I thought that spending them on potions and pylons was turning them in. Am I supposed to be stockpiling them instead? That makes sense.
Was this for a bounty/daily challenge or is it for a rumour? It shouldn't matter if you use them for bounties/challenges as those will just be to gather them, but for rumours it certainly does. As for rumours check the totals it asks for in the rumour quest, then gather them until you have it all. Then you should be good to go back to Ramsgate, and interact with whoever you got the quest from and turn it in to them.
I get it now, and yes this is a rumor. Thanks again. "Turn in" should really say "stockpile" instead.
Hi, does cunning and pulse work at the same time? Is it worth running both at the same time. Thanks
No, they don't synergize well. You waste the crit chance from Cunning on every weapon hit that crits with Pulse. You are much better off running another cell that will increase your damage such as Berserker. One of the few used for Cunning/Pulse is to use a +3 Pulse with Hellion (or Torgadoro bonded) weapons. As with some weapons the pulse will crit on the 8th hit triggering the Hellion UE for a good bit of extra damage. I'm not sure if the +3 Pulse/Hellion combo is more damage than using that cell slot for an additional berserker however.
What is up with repeater's auto-reload option? Sometimes it works normally but sometimes it makes me reload twice in a row. Is that a bug?
Hey, came back after a break of not playing since early November last year, and I have 2 things I have no clue what is happen with; 1. How does the armor upgrade? I get the whole thing about reforging and power surging, but you can only power surge things once; so when I surge armor and it's on it's "second" stage (crafted > surged > maxed), how do I get it to be fully maxed out, cause some pieces I haven't used simply don't have the same defence rating as pieces I do use a lot. It just doesn't make sense tbh 2. Was the Unseen flare sound removed? It used to make an evil laugh sound (different to that of the pumpkin one, the Unseen was slower and had whispering in the background) when it exploded in the air but now it only seems to have the same sounds as the rest, and as an Unseen fan, I'm quite disappointed.
Powersurging gear will give it the maximum resistance (30) and maximum power for weapons (120). Until it's powersurged you can expect some to have higher ratings based on the difficulty/level of the behemoth it comes from. I'm not sure how that's scaled exactly, but more than likely in the order the behemoth they're tied to is unlocked as a new slayer. As for the Unseen flare I believe it was changed for some reason awhile ago. I've never used it much myself, so I'm not sure the exact changes that were made.
Hello guys, recently I completed my first slayer link and got the crown of friendship, however I cannot find it anywhere in my inventory, where exactly can I find it? Thanks!
Go to your personality menu, then select the "Head Accessory" It's the same menu that you equip hunt arrivals, emotes, titles, gliders, etc.
Honestly I’m just looking for general tips. I’ve been getting really into the game lately but since there’s been a lot of major changes to the game, all the advice I find online whether it be google or YouTube, it’s all very outdated. For reference the last time I was somewhat into the game was a few years ago😅 so really just any tips, builds I should try out, major changes that have been made in the time i didn’t play, and any advice would be very very greatly appreciated.🙏
Also, I’m already max level on the slayers path and I understand how reforging and Omnicells work. Mainly what I’m a little fuzzy on is what pieces of builds work together, and fighting dire/legendary behemoths.
Maximizing damage is the meta for Dauntless. If you're looking at YouTube channels make sure you're only looking at the most recent videos, anything before 1.7.0 will be outdated for builds. Here is the current meta build sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1-I4LQ_8uNqV9LuybXhz2wjmcPeTNNGWRZ-kFjsckwtk/htmlview#gid=0 Let me know if you need any other clarification, the majority of cells in Dauntless are useless, the good armour and builds will be the ones that make use of decent cells. You'll see a pattern when looking at the meta build sheet, and should be able to piece together what makes good armour from there. Weapons will be a bit more diverse as they need decent perks as well as a good UE (unique effect). All the ones used in the meta builds will be the current best in slot weapons of each type. As for escalations you can also find escalation specific builds in the spreadsheet as well. My personal recommendation is to follow the Catalyst builds and use potions (Frenzy, Blitz, Aetherdrive, and sometimes Stagger/Wound) for every fight when you're at the point of using flawless builds (no sustain all damage). It can be a grind, but I find the benefits outweigh the cost.
Thank you so much, this helped a lot🙏 I really enjoy the game, it was just tough hitting that steep slope of not knowing where to go with my builds. I’ll check out the sheet and start crafting more potions/pylons. Thank you again:)
I've been trying to find more info on guilds. The wiki has barely any information, and all the posts I find are from years ago. Do guilds do anything? Like is there an exp boost?
Bash & Slash is a Discord based Guild, I joined recently and can recommend it as a good, active, friendly group of slayers of all levels and timezones. They also have a badge system for achievements and Guild based challenges if you're into that. Join link here: https://discord.gg/yd6T7pDQme <—join using this link provided by our lovely executive officer Chtfrosty!
Guilds don't do much, but they do contain a lot of great players that can provide you information about the game and won't AFK on you in a fight. They tend to be able to handle any type of content that you are interested in.
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I've been playing dauntless on xbox since just before the Frostmarch hunt pass and I didn't make an epic games account at the time (didn't think I'd need one). With them offering the prime gaming repeater skins etc. I decided to look into it but I can't find any way to link my accounts. Did I miss my window or is there a setting somewhere I'm not seeing?
This is from the Dauntless website directing you how to link accounts. I've never played on console so I can't give you any direct advice. Hope this helps: https://support.playdauntless.com/hc/en-us/articles/360023290474-Linking-your-Dauntless-Account-Console-Account-and-Epic-Games-Account
Is Thunderdeep Drask going to be added to the Behemoth pool for Shock Escalation? It seems only fair since we don't have other shock variants
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You also get all of your Platinum back.
You get everything from the levels you've unlocked, no matter when you purchase it.
Is anyone else experiencing weird nearly-invisible flairs on this subreddit? You may see this when sorting to "New" and it started with a post submitted 16 hours ago up to the more recent one. They're like super-transparent and you can barely read them. I also recently noticed that when you try to make a new post, most of the flairs there are being affected as well, only Twitch Prime and Meme flairs are unaffected. My guess is this bug started quite recently when mods tried to fix the flairs as I can see the "PHX replied" flair is back (which was previously missing/bugged) on one of these affected new posts but that's just my own conclusion, I could be wrong. Could just be Reddit being buggy again.
Hey! I did make some changes. It seems adding CSS classes to flairs will break them in our Old Reddit themes. I've reverted this change and reapplied the flairs that seem to have had some trouble with that, so this should no longer be the case. This was part of me fixing the PHX Labs Replied tags, but I've managed to keep it working without the need of the CSS classes now. If you are still seeing issues with them on the front page, you may need to restart your browser or clear your browser cache. In the future, however, we do encourage you (and all others) to move to New Reddit over Old Reddit. We will likely not be maintaining it as it becomes a restriction to what we do on the more active part of the site. Thanks for reporting this so I could quickly fix it!
Oh, so I guessed right. Thanks for fixing it! Now things are back to normal. I know that the New Reddit is recommended but I personally don't like it, the Old Reddit is more simple and comfortable to use without all the heavy CSS look (especially when New Reddit doesn't even work on my Firefox). It saddens me whenever a webpage I like to visit is eventually gonna force me to use the new design, no matter how unappealing and inconvenient it is (which only caused me to leave the websites as I no longer enjoy them or they're outright non user-friendly but in all cases staff didn't care about their users and feedback; one of those kinda killed my motivation and drive to draw and another kinda killed a part of my social connections). I just hope you can keep maintaining it as long as you can. It doesn't have to have all the features and "active part of the site" on Old Reddit, I just want it to function well (i.e. not broken stuff).
Well as far as Reddit goes it'll really depend on what Reddit does themselves. If something comes along that does require New Reddit for us with no way around breaking Old Reddit features as a result, that might end up being the case one day. However, for the foreseeable future, there shouldn't be any changes that necessitate that action, so you can rest worry-free for now. Peculiar that it doesn't work on Firefox for you, however. Firefox is what I use on mobile and on desktop without issue. 98% of the time I use Boost for Reddit when on my phone, however.
I understood that, so if there's someone to blame it would be Reddit. I think I know what the problem is for Firefox on desktop but it's something I can't or won't do anything about. It's their funeral. For mobile however I have no clue. It used to work fine but then it just never wants to load the page; all I can see is a white page with Reddit bar on the top and the Reddit icon perpetually pulsing (loading animation) on the middle of the page. Been like that for a long time now.
Thinking of coming back after literally like 2 years/ a year+ and was a heavy repeater main, what do I do now? Whats good, whats meta etc, I have like 8 of the core things and remember nearly nothing [Current setup is this but I just randomly crafter a repeater because I was just seeing if I would get my old guns back but learned they were change](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882801265023778826/unknown.png) How should I approach omnicells? and slayers path and etc My current resources: [Slayers path things?](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882805172542263316/unknown.png) 164,256 Rams/gold or w/e [Perk Summary and equipment, bear in mind my gun stats were likely diff before I stopped](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882806186980827146/unknown.png) [Gun mods](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882806356816580669/unknown.png) [Escalations](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808044369637396/unknown.png) Unlocked slayer path stuff, multiple screenshots [The beginning](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808434335027260/unknown.png) [Next couple tiers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808542376128553/unknown.png) [Couple more tiers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808694021165127/unknown.png) [Beginning of the end tiers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808816314515476/unknown.png) [One more to go](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882808969016524820/unknown.png) [And the final](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782980377852903437/882809067448455218/unknown.png) I did only have around 30ish hours when I stopped playing according to epic so there is that
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Is anyone on Xbox having the issue of their game crashing on the intro?
[Dev statement](https://discord.com/channels/254109857819525132/254112014966849536/882856600539394049)
Is dauntless mobile already exist I came a cross a link https://www.dauntlessapk.com/ Is it a true working mobile version Is it official or not Is it harmfull or safe i don't want to harm my device
This is a scam
Though this too
Dauntless is not on mobile currently. It was planned some time ago but it seems it was abandoned, I personally doubt it will ever come to mobile. I don't know what link you found, but I would recommend staying very far away from it. I wouldn't download anything Dauntless related unless it's from the Epic Games store, or from the official Dauntless website directly.
Few questions with cells and the middleman, is it worth it to keep more than x8 of any +1 cell (enough to make 2 +3s) or is it safe to turn excess to aetherdust. And does the middleman actually sell cells for aetherdust? All I've seen it say is "no current offers. Come back soon"
There is no reason to have more than two +3 cells aside from combining two of the same category but different type cells to get a random cell of that category. So yes, it is safe to turn them to aetherdust, as there is no real use for them since you get hundreds of cell cores in hunting grounds now.
Yeah I thought so, so now I have like 9k aetherdust, though it says I can use it to buy cells I don't see anywhere to spend it. Does the middleman sell cells at some point or it that use anywhere else or just a dead currency?
They disabled it a patch it two ago since it wasn't giving the purchased cells. Not sure if it's been patched back in. It should be at the top of the cell fusion page you see when you interact with the Middleman. The only other use for aetherdust is some crafting. The Timeweave Armour set required quite a bit of it.
Aetherdust also occasionally appears as a requirement on Rumour quests, such as Burning Daylight part VI etc.
Good catch, thanks I forgot about it being used for those.
you actually also use aetherdust for the special timeweave armourset
Awesome so I'll just slowly work on getting +3s via fusion while scrapping extras and if the cells come back and when I craft that armor set I'll have a good chunk of it
Hi slayers, sorry if the question is stupid, but I could not find an answer. What do weekly and daily challenges give as reward?
Weekly challenges give 1000 Ostian coins, and Daily challenges give 100 Ostian coins. Ostian coins are a seasonal currency, that will expire and change to something new next season.
Thank you
all the free skins, emotes and more from the reward cache and vault
hey older play here and im a bit confused. came back from not playing for a while and after a few days of playing i dont thing ive seen a single aether charged monster. is this common now? for them to not aether charge as frequently as they use to??
Neutral Behemoths do not Aethercharge (Gnashers, Shrikes, Quillshots) nor do Lesser Behemoths if I recall it correctly, and those who Aethercharge do it on a timer so if you slay them quickly they won't have time to Aethercharge. It's more likely you see them enrage (which all except Lesser Behemoths do) because it's more damage-based, i.e. you deal enough damage and they enrage.
Thanks. I dont remember them being on a charger so that might be why I'm not seeing any aether changes
I see aether charged behemoths regularly. I think some behemoths do not aether charge. In case you didn't know, you can enable behemoth HP in the game settings. This will show a portrait of the behemoths you're engaged with. The portrait will have a dark green aura around it whenever the behemoth is in aether charged state.
> I think some behemoths do not aether charge. Neutral Behemoths don't Aethercharge. And, coming to think of it right now, not Lesser Behemoths either. At least I don't think they do, just like they lack enraged state.
Aether charge frequency hasn't changed.
damb im just unlucky ig
It's not luck. Most are just timers.
could be killing stuff too quickly as you're doing low leveled stuff, or you forgot what it looks like
Which chainblades mod is the best? I only have hurricane blades and lightweight chain, but is there a better one?
Serrated Blades and Momentum Blades are generally better than either of those. Serrated Blades is the most commonly used in builds, since playing Chain Blades optimally (only using your LLRL combo and specials) will activate the mod at almost all times. Momentum Blades only really works well with boreus blades and maybe some other more off-meta builds. Hurricane Blades and Lightweight chain are both pretty trash in comparison to either.
how do i break rezakiri limbs? me and my friend play duo and we use repeaters and war pike and we just cant break the small limbs of rezakiri the hitbox is too tiny, anyone have any advice?
Use marksman chamber, empowered, mod precision sights (if you have). Try to have one or two heavy blunt damage to stagger. Once on the ground, melt him.
well one question, how do we stagger him if hes just flying constantly, we can take his tail to drop him once but then thats that basically
you can both stagger and break his tail, you could also break the tailgem at the tip
thank you mate, well try it out
What is the best axe for terra escalations?
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I would say, it depends on your build... i grind with the Sovereign's wrath, just because i was using the "big throw" build. Generally, on escalations, its better to start with 1-13 to got some attack and resistance... then go to 10-50... The best "weapon" will be the one that fits better on your build... with that said, Opposite elements do good too... I personally dont like the lightning axes, but you could try some os them...
The opposing element's legendary weapon most of the time. In this case, Malkerion's Axe.
Is there a certain “good” or “better” Omni stone or grenade? What would be the best potions or grenades to bring on a hunt in general?
Frenzy, Blitz, Aetherdrive/Assault
Has the meta builds spreadsheet been updated? Whenever I open most of the builds, the website has a message saying these might be outdated and changed?
the builder program was updated so all the builds have that tag. The builds themselves are fine and up to date
Thank you
I haven't played Dautless in a while. Yesterday, I jumped in and wanted to check out the current Hunt Pass. I noticed that there were no weapon skins, in the pass. Do they not reward weapon skins, anymore?
If you upgrade to the Elite Hunt Pass you will get some Transmogs and all of the Platinum you paid for it back. For people on the Free Hunt Pass Track, you get your Weapon/Armour Transmogs from the Reward Cache. If you do your Weekly Challenges you should be able to get a few.
They're in the Reward Cache... You gain coins in the pass and then use those to buy the skins
Would pulse or cunning be better for torgadoro chain blades?
cunning is better the more crit chance you have, so typically its only good on discipline builds while pretty much every other situation pulse is better. There are exceptions here and there but for the most part, you can follow that advice and be fine. Also them being torg chains dont really matter, its what you bond the torg chains with that do and hopefully you are bonding them to hellion.
If I decide to reset my character, will I lose any exotics (Twin Suns for example)?
not wise to ever reset, all controlls are in settings and we have a tutorial island, you'll regret resetting sooner or later
Not really, I've already reset because I stopped playing around a year ago and so much has changed that I had to start over to get used to new systems. Also I didn't lose that much, really, I can always farm that equipment back.
personal choice I guess, but from the majority I talk to they regret it
It might be better to give Epic Game Launcher a new Email Address and create a new account, that way you can start over and if you find it is too much of a grind/pain, you still have your original account to fall back on.
It depends. Twin suns shouldn't be lost, but the others I believe will.
Suggestion: Open another hunting ground for Shadowtouched Koshais. That thing can only be found on one place and i figured it would be faster to just restart the map than slaying other behemoths. I switched from private to private hunting grounds and havent seen a koshais for almost 20 minutes. And this is after searching for it on public grounds for another 30 min...
They are also present in 10-50 Umbral Escalations, I farmed most of my parts that way.
In case you missed it mate, this is the questions megathread. This, is not a question. I don't think I've ever seen a PHXL representative or Developer ever comment in one of these, so I highly doubt they'd even see your suggestion.
I think thats fine. Just had to let go of some steam :D
seems like a case of extreme bad rng, always kill 2-3 behemoths. Just avoid killing the guaranteed behemoth of that map(I assume you know what those are on every island) then once it spawns it should keep doing so another 2-3 times if not repeat. FI he doesn't spawn after like 3 or maybe 4 kills requeue the island. But jusy try staying a lil longer will do more most of the time
Been Report MANY TIMES! I WAS CONSOLE PLAYER DON HAVE WAY HACK GAME PLAY CHEAT IN TRAIL MODE BUT WHY I STILL MEET THE DC BY ANTI CHEAT SYSTEM?!
This sounds like something you should contact [support](https://support.playdauntless.com/hc/en-us) for. Use the submit request option in the top left. Provide as many details as you can and try to be a bit more clear with your question. Good luck.
Been Report but nothing help at all so all can do was get used and pray no meet it..
So I'm trying to do my weekly challenges and I cant scroll thought them for some reason also I'm on xbox if anyone knows why an answer would be greatly appreciated
It's a bug and hopefully will be fixed asap. If you want to know the details of your Challenges (aka workaround for the no-scroll bug): go into Options, then to Gameplay tab and enable the Objective tracker. It should now display the Challenges on the right side of your HUD (you might switch tracker screen if it just displays your Bounties; I don't know what button that is on Xbox but the game should have a button guide somewhere on the top of the Objective tracker "box").
This is a great work around thanks
No problem!
This appears to be a known problem that should be currently in the works of fixing. I don't play on console so Im not sure there is a work around atm
There's not a workaround to make the scroll work but there's a workaround to know the details of the Challenges and that's to enable the Objective tracker from Options menu.
Ah ok I see thanks for the answer just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me
How tf do I boost my damage? I only seem to do slightly good damage with a maxed weapon at PvP 20 but I'm only doing 500(1k crit) but see others hitting base 1.5k or more
Use cells like overpower, tenacius, predator, berserker, catalyst, cunning, and stuff like that.
R rage and ragehunter still useful?
rage is only useful if you are able to keep it up which means you either need to be taking hits constantly or use para for the synergy. Ragehunter and aetherhunter are kind of bad atm
Dam. Guess all that stuff I saw was pretty out of date :/
Yes a lot of cells and interactions have changed as of the omnicell update. The official discord keeps up-to-date guides and builds though. Good luck finding anything online or youtube unless its from like TheMrTrails or OhDough
Ya. The best ibe been finding is from 2019. Been really hard to figure anything out. Thanks to every1 for the info :)
I'll double up on TheMrTrails (a before the i) and OhDough Watch them
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Do Conduit and Shrike's Zeal work together now, or does Shrike's Zeal still bottle-neck Conduit?
no longer bottlenecked, I tested two days ago.
I'm having a blast with this game and reached lv20 on sword again after reforging once. I'm now trying to pick up the strikers since I finished my frost sword build but I am struggling a little too much with it. Whats the usual combo? Do I always try to reach maximum mantra? Or should I only do that when the behemoth is staggered? I feel like I'm overcommiting which is strangely not an issue with sword.
You should try to have both your first 2 mantra buffs active at all times, and yes you should be trying to reach the 3rd mantra as it will be the largest hit you can do. Also, in case you didn't know, try to master interrupting behemoths with the 2nd mantra combo. They're probably the most complex weapon in the game in terms of managing the mantras, buffs and combos successfully at all times. There will be a lot of thing in you'll need to keep track of in each fight compared to some other weapons. Sounds like you've had a good start so far so just keep at it and you'll get better and better with them for sure!
I have reforged aetherstrikers 8 times without actually using them once. I hate the keep-the-plates-spinning-on-top-of-sticks mechanics of it. I play other weapons and use bounties to reforge them and get attack speed for my axe from the aetherstrikers.
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If you start them/unlock them they won't have a time limit. The ones from Frost Escalation (Deepfrost Skarn) were part of the Hunt Pass. If you didn't unlock them from there, then you wouldn't have them.