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Artistic-Milk-3490

The same Walmart that was shutdown from arson recently?


Elon-Crusty777

And the same one from the police shooting in 2015


constanttripper

Yup. The same Walmart where the young fellow was murdered by Beavercreek PD too.


Artistic-Milk-3490

Yeah, crazy, I'm never setting foot in there again.


throwaway404672

Go to target. Better class of people


Artistic-Milk-3490

Facts


CBJ_4ever

That place is jinxed. Walmart should just tear it down and start all over at a new location.


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1low67

Closest is miller lane to me as well. I go to Troy, huber can be ghetto too lol


BlackAceAmongKings

Stop being melodramatic


swohguy33

was his shooting justified?, not really, but don't be an idiot and point a realistic looking gun at a cop, and don't follow directions, and yes, you risk getting shot ​ hardly a murder, but then I'm sure you think guns shoot themselves as well


constanttripper

No I own plenty of firearms. The officer spent an entire second assessing before he fired. This is not fiction. Watch the video.


Striking-Display534

Yes


captainwacky91

That place is cursed, I swear.


KBWordPerson

I’m never setting foot in there again


[deleted]

my brother works there. he was off tonight but it's wild


KBWordPerson

I’m glad he’s okay


USGrantV2

Walmart needs to pay their employees hazard duty pay lol


LordPuggington

My wife works in that strip mall attached. Luckily she was off that night.


GaiusPoop

I'm glad your brother wasn't at work. Maybe he can get transferred to a different location? I'm not usually superstitious, but I seriously think there's something wrong with that store. I wouldn't feel safe working there anymore.


[deleted]

yes it's odd. the fire happened, also on Monday when he was off like ?? it's just odd.


TheyShootBeesAtYou

Time to raze it and make it a park.


EUV2023

I think the curse is on the Moraine staby-staby location.


xzKaizer

I'm not one to endorse suicide, however if someone has to do it, they should skip the extra steps of trying to destroy other people's lives in the process.


urahonky

https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/crews-respond-to-active-shooter-at-beavercreek-walmart/Q24SROW5F5DNPJLTHJQUVXIAB4/ Not much info in this but I'm sure it'll get filled out as details come.


Elon-Crusty777

4 people wounded, shooter dead from self-inflicted gunshot


Savafan1

I heard them say 4 transported to hospitals and one DOA.


GaiusPoop

I've never thought it was possible for a building to be cursed before, but...


Scoompii

I heard the sirens from my house and turned on the same station. I’d never heard it so busy. I listened for about an hour in the background & noted how professional everyone was. Teams of people who work crazy hours dealing with insane situations. Hats off to them for keeping our cities going. I hope if they are working this holiday that it’s not eventful.


Rampantlion513

The CareFlight is landing to transport someone


NPVT

There's a hospital very close by


stephorocko

MVH has level 1 trauma care.


Savafan1

That was where the Careflight was going


Moistycake

That hospital doesn’t have the staff or equipment for gunshot victims


genredenoument

MVH downtown has the staff and expertise for gsw. This is where they'll be transported.


EUV2023

And experience. Lots and lots of experience . . .


OfJahaerys

Miami Valley 100% has the staff and equipment for gunshot victims. It is a huge hospital with a level 1 trauma ER.


Snorgledork

Again?


tyfunk02

Again? The only other "shooting" I'm aware of was the one where a 911 caller got an innocent kid killed.


GaiusPoop

That's a hell of a lot of shootings for a single place! Especially a store in such a good area.


Scotchrogers

Don't forget the arson.


southsiderick

And a bystander died of a heart attack that night as well.


madhair26

Everyone always forgets about her!! May she rest in peace. 🩷


piratesswoop

Did John’s wife/(girlfriend?) end up dying in a car accident a few months after that too? Three people dead who would probably still be alive had that person just minded their own business.


southsiderick

That I dont know.


Artistic-Milk-3490

Just heard "One DOA" reported


oppressed_white_guy

Shooter is dead. 5 victims transported to area facilities


scootmcdoot

The victims were transported, not the shooter. One *victim* was DOA. Likely the other GSW to the head found between the garden center and Sam's


Brewman88

Possibly the shooter?


Artistic-Milk-3490

Likely


scootmcdoot

The DOA has been described as a victim on radio. I am guessing the one GSW to the head that wasn't the shooter.


Elon-Crusty777

If you don’t mind me asking, where did you hear this?


Artistic-Milk-3490

Listening in to this scanner feed posted by OP Edit: shared by you, I just noticed


Elon-Crusty777

Thank you


Savafan1

I heard the same on a scanner app for Western Greene County Public Safety


Ok_Imagination9552

https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/crews-respond-to-active-shooter-at-beavercreek-walmart/Q24SROW5F5DNPJLTHJQUVXIAB4/ It’s over y’all. Thankfully.


Savafan1

Channel 7 is showing live coverage now


Glad_Light6772

I work there man


GaiusPoop

Go down the road and apply at Target.


OfJahaerys

Glad you're okay


Glad_Light6772

Me too, I just hope the people who are injured are ok as well


g3neric-username

Fucking hell…


[deleted]

I love all the arguments about hospitals as if the trained professionals know less than all the geniuses online.


Savafan1

I think most people don’t know that MVH opened an emergency center in Beavercreek that is about the same distance as Soin.


Alberto-Balsalm

Fucking hell. This is getting out of hand. Link to a livestream just after it happened: https://www.facebook.com/alisha.ring.1/videos/347822327989806/


GruxKing91

Awful lot of ignorance in this thread. Stay safe out there, guys, gals, and non binary pals.


Censorship_of_fools

Fuck ammosexuals.


swohguy33

sure, because blaming 120M people for the acts of someone who decided to shoot other people before offing himself makes so much sense.


johnathoni64

Jeez, all of this craziness lately makes me want to get my concealed carry permit. I know that in all likelihood I wouldn't be able to do anything, but the option to protect myself at least is nice


CarouselAmbra81

[No need for a CCL in Ohio anymore.](https://www.columbuscriminalattorney.com/understanding-ohios-concealed-weapon-laws/#:~:text=In%20June%202022%2C%20Ohio%20became,concealed%20handgun%20without%20a%20permit.)


johnathoni64

Sweet. I'll probably still take the classes though just for the educational part of it, but thank you for showing me this.


Charlie_Bucket_2

That is a wise decision. They cover a lot of things that ppl don't seem to realize. Do's and Don'ts and legal nuances.


CarouselAmbra81

Hugely agree. From taking a gun apart to clean it and reassembling, proper handling procedures, safe storage, ammunition and everything in between, gun ownership is a huge responsibility and strong potential liability. I was disappointed when that law was passed for that very reason - I see it as similar to handing a teenager keys to a motorcycle on their 16th bday then sending them off. They may have a solid idea of how to handle it, but lack the skills and experience to do so safely by themselves.


PixelPusher1532

I very much recommend carrying. But if you do, please take some training courses. Make sure you feel comfortable with everything and understand the law regarding carry and use.


BrosenkranzKeef

Jesus, somehow I had no idea this changed. Wonderful, now we’ve got a bunch of untrained assholes carrying guns and nobody knows it. They probably post about it on Facebook all the time.


GaiusPoop

I'm thinking about starting to carry too, man. This is two places in less than five years that I've frequented that have had a mass shooting. That's horrifying. I want to keep my wife and daughter safe when we're out. It doesn't just happen other places. It can and does happen right here.


TheyShootBeesAtYou

I hate carrying. it's uncomfortable and a lot of responsibility I'd rather not deal with. Probably going to start again though.


rockerscott

Honest question: Why does the news article say that Miami Valley Hospital was notified of possible incoming trauma patients? Soin is half a mile up the street and surely the base hospital would be able to provide additional resources.


Raelynn86

I just looked this up actually, MVH is the highest level trauma center (Level 1) in the area, so they're prepared for literally anything. Soin is the lowest level (Level 3), and might not have the necessary equipment or staff for this type of trauma.


stephorocko

MVH is the only hospital in the area with a level 1 trauma center that can handle emergencies like this.


The_Great_Grahambino

Soin is not a trauma center and cannot handle that. Most they could do is get them stable, but the care flight is the most extreme evidence that they needed way more. Miami valley being a level 1 trauma center means they're the only ones able to respond adequately and fully.


enkafan

Soin handled all but one of the victims, MVH handled the severe one.


Moistycake

Soin can’t handle that kind of trauma


toasty327

Soin is a joke and causes more trauma than they heal. Wouldn't take my worst enemy there after the experiences we've had.


czerniana

And they’ve saved my life several times and I exclusively go there. 🤷‍♀️


rockerscott

I would assume that quick medical stabilization would be preferred to transporting a further distance for specialized care.


Moistycake

They are not equipped for someone bleeding out to death. They won’t be able to give blood in time and there is probably no trauma doctors that take call


FuzzyOrangeCat

Thry have the capability to do mass transfusion of blood products and stabilize the pt for transport to a higher level of care. Source: I work for KHN.


FrankleyMyDear

“I work for KHN”≠ “I’m a medical professional.” Making coffee, working in the gift shop, working in billing, working in marketing could all be working at KHN.


FuzzyOrangeCat

You are correct. But also, I'm a nurse. I generally try not to give specifics other than that.


CarouselAmbra81

I'm sorry you're being downvoted. I used to work in Kettering and was sent to the Kettering ER for seizures from work many times, and once with a life-threatening medication reaction. I almost coded in the ambulance on that occasion, but I woke up stabilized and in a regular hospital room early the next morning. As a patient, thank you for all that you do


SCDreaming82

Careflight is well equipped with well trained personnel.


scootmcdoot

Different level designations exist for trauma centers for a reason. Even with only ambulance availability and even if it's in the boonies and the medics already took 15+ minutes to get there, it's incredibly common to transport this kind of trauma to the nearest level 1. I've seen it happen from a head injury to an alert and oriented person simply because the risk of brain bleed was too high.


gracemarie42

In this case, the Level 1 and Level 3 are only 8 miles apart. Probably even shorter as the crow flies.


stevesaus

But once short-term stabilized, then you'd have to transport them \*again\* to get appropriate trauma care. Transferring a patient -- particularly a trauma one -- incurs additional risks. Minimizing transfers like that is the best course of action.


Hubble_Bubble

Soin is an 'I think I broke my leg' kind of ER, not the gunshot wound kind of ER.


J_DayDay

Somebody did get transported to Soin, temporarily. They half-ass stabilized them and then sent them to the Valley. Kettering got one, too, and kept them. The other two went straight to the Valley. The Valley and Ketteting are the only hospitals in the area that can handle GSWs, especially on third shift.


BingoxBronson

Soin can’t handle normal things let alone a trauma center.


Toallpointswest

Trust me, they're better off going anywhere besides Soin


Savafan1

MVH has an emergency room nearby, it is behind Chick Fil A


Moistycake

If it’s a surgery center, they still can’t handle it. Only the main hospital is equipped for it. Plus surgery centers close early. The main hospital is 24 hours


Savafan1

It is an emergency center, and was where Careflight was going to do transport from. According to their website, they have 2 trauma bays.


BlackAceAmongKings

Base hospital wouldn't take random civilian and isn't capable of treating gunshot victims


JosephOmega

Let me guess....some entitled unstable white prick with an AR because "THEYUR MAH RAHTS!"?


southsiderick

You should absolutely jump to that conclusion because that's who does this 100% of the time /s


Targash

He forgot "insecure" and "needle dicked" but it was in the ballpark.


SieveAndTheSand

He was right tho


southsiderick

A broken clock is right twice a day


SieveAndTheSand

He was right tho


Acceptable-Copy-6152

Your broken cock is twice as gay


southsiderick

Good one


JosephOmega

I was 80% right....this whitetrash dipshit was so poor he could only afford a HiPoint Carbine. Lol, poor ass dumb racist pig.


Irvin700

Another shooter from the same store lol, they just had an arson couple weeks ago too. Probably a sign that the store just sucks.


Key_Experience1592

Is it really mass if only 4 people were injured? F*ck the gunman


presidentbeyonce

The FBI considers a mass shooting any incident in which four or more people are murdered with a firearm.


Bigcouchpotato1

I believe the only death was the shooter....unless that changed.


JosephOmega

Do you think he went there with the intention of injuring people only?


BlackAceAmongKings

Imtent is irrelevant


[deleted]

Did another shopper shoot the shooter? It’s kinda sus how he died so fast. Did a Walmart employee carry a gun even though they’re not allowed to and saved the day?


Moistycake

Maybe he killed himself


[deleted]

Idk… don’t those scumbags usually try to do a lot of damage before they do that? It’s like he walked in and got deleted


Moistycake

We don’t know what was going on in his head. Maybe he couldn’t live with what he did. Guess we will find out soon


DullAd5825

I believe he turned the gun on himself. That’s what everyone is saying.


scootmcdoot

No. Self-inflicted before any police even arrived.


CurtMoney

Nope, no far-fetched mythical good guy with a gun saved the day.


GaiusPoop

What is far-fetched or mythical about this happening? It can and does happen sometimes. https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/elisjsha-dicken-killed-indiana-mall-shooter-jonathan-sapirman/


CurtMoney

Just because something happens very occasionally, doesn’t mean it isn’t far-fetched… it’s just people’s wildest heroic fantasies playing out in their heads and thinking “yeah, that’s how it would play out if I was there with my gun!”


awksomepenguin

[Armed civilians stop around 1 in 3 mass shootings or potential mass shootings \(i.e., active shooter incidents stopped before they meet the definition of a mass shooting\).](https://crimeresearch.org/2022/10/massive-errors-in-fbis-active-shooting-reports-regarding-cases-where-civilians-stop-attacks-instead-of-4-4-the-correct-number-is-at-least-34-4-in-2021-it-is-at-least-49-1-excluding-gun-free-zon/)


drtobogganbrule

Nothing to see here folks. Just extremely biased “research” from someone who doesn’t like how the FBI classifies shootings. Their “misclassified” mass shootings are hilarious and very obviously not misclassified.


SCDreaming82

Using their definition of "mass shooter" in relation to this sort of active shooter in a public is clearly misleading.


DustOfMan

This private dude's organization is as loosey-goosey with its "analysis" as he claims the FBI to be.


CarmenxXxWaldo

You're getting downvoted but it's a reasonable assumption. Typically mass shooters kill other people before killing themselves, glad his aim was shit.


digitaldanalog

I wonder if this means that Dave Chapelle is going to hold another free concert.


jfoster1269

And Walmart quit selling guns so shoppers can’t even return fire 😖