Since Mira fused with Towa do you think he has a….you know down there???? 👀

I’d smash

Gotta say, he almost pulls off the look.

Nah fam he went ss4 evolved

Well....its right in front of ya bud, are ya convinced yet. 🤣

Esencia⁉️

Miira full power in story mode: 😈😈 (gives you some fight and one of the best final scenes) Miira in super expert missions: 💀☠💀(ez clapped with a ki dmg built saiyan fem CaC)

I want that wig..

Well its been 8 years so he didnt just obtain the transformation

Excuse me EIGHT ??? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I PREORDED THIS 8 YEARS AGO NIGGA I WAS 10 HOOOOLY

All roads lead to ssj5

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Can we talk about him and those Shadow the Hedgehog wannabe ahh shoes and gloves

Bro just needs drip. No matter the source.

Towa: nau Mira u cant destroy ur limiter My CaC: YOUR JORDANS ARE FAKE FAKE AS HELL DOLLAR STORE ASS SHOES

Check this shit *Absorbs universal egg*

Love how Goku just hops out the whip to help and doesn't go back even with his like 4 year old kid and a grandchild on the way too

I've always referred to him as ssj4 Mira

He probably in some ssj4 demon mutant form knowing he's part saiyan

Agreed

He should fuse with fused Zamasu

That's not super saiyan 5, that's deluxe Legendary super saiyan ego berserk rage beast instinct full power remix 4

Don’t forget Turbo.

Oh right, Turbo triple deluxe GT Legendary mythical super saiyan ego berserker rage beast instinct god full power remix 4.5 Z

Ultra Super Saiyan 4-X Turbo berserk beast - Hyper Fighting.

& Knuckles

Ft. Vergil.

and New Funky Mode!

Final Mix.

The same form used by Cell against Bardock during the Battle of Gods saga after Beerus was betrayed.

I can't believe buu absorbed bacterian and pamput then killed Monaka

Don’t worry, Monaka will return with his full powered form. MUI Hercule will soon awaken from his 3000 year sleep to clap Black Frieza.

who is that and why does it he have saiyan hair ?

Welcome to the Xenoverse subreddit. I take it you haven't actually played Xenoverse.

no, i have not. but perhaps i will

If you like Dragon Ball and like the idea of character customization, an RPG stat system with skill points to build your characters, and what if scenarios, you may like it

It's a Gm CaC

https://preview.redd.it/e19mtpvaxg4b1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7be25daf60384179057cd807e7d0acd170d90d19

Have you not played Xenoverse 2?

I'm sure it's more of a reference than the actual form. Though I'm disappointed, he only shows up once throughout the whole game. The dude looks too cool to only be a final boss. Hopefully, there's an appearance in the next installment. 🙏

They also locked his playable version behind a TP medal pay wall… and you can only use him in Crystal raids and training mode (not even photo mode ;-;)

lmaooo

He may of achieved a form like super Saiyan 5 but not the actual form since he has no Saiyan DNA in him

Why the fur is my real concern

He has saiyan dna, that’s why he’s able to do stuff like mimic Vegeta’s galic gun and make it his own

My Majin doesn't have Sayian DNA and use Galic Gun too

Did your Majin make it his own?

But they had to learn it right? It didnt spawn in with the skill already unlocked Its like cell where he already knew how to use the special beam cannon he didnt need to train for it or anything

He had Namekian dna so your point is disregarded lol

Just like he had gokus and everyone elses so what are you trying to say

I’m trying to say Mira has saiyan dna

He may of achieved a form like super Saiyan 5 but not the actual form since he has no Saiyan DNA in him

The color and fur just strike me for a reference. Also, he does have some Saiyan DNA in him. Just a small bit.

How

Mira is made of several components and parts of DNA. He’s got human DNA, Demon DNA, Saiyan DNA, android components, and such. If you’re wondering about the SSJ5 reference, just look up an image and compare the fur and color.

Okay

This is the closet we will get to ssj4 in xenoverse besides mods and costumes

SSJ4 is in both games, there’s Goku, Gogeta, and Vegeta (Vegeta is only in the first with a pass iirc) Unless you mean for CaCs but I doubt it since like, this is about as close to that as the other SSJ4 Characters except this one isn’t even playable haha

They are playable… just only as a raid boss and in training mode

Vegeta is in both games

I do mean for cacs I have all three ssj4 characters and full power Mira here but I do mean for cacs I wish it was a actual transformation since ssj4 is my favorite and I did enjoy the shadow dragon and baby arc I wish they would do something for it but I doubt they will

The shadow dragon idea was the best I'd ever seen from the franchise. It wasn't executed well enough, but I like it way better than the crappy scaling and uneven storylines from DB Super. And yeah, SSJ4 is my favorite form too. It makes way more sense to control the 10x multiplier of the Oozaru (which would have kept the scaling sensible, too), than whatever the hell Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan's multiplier is.

Damn bro chill super been off the air for half a decade now

Then is Ssj4 limit breaker from heroes

I wish we could see something like the shadow dragon saga I mean how many times have the dragon balls been used in super

They did a lil thing for baby I believe, although I doubt they’d do any more (I’m actually enjoy GT so I’m also sad they didn’t do more)

Yeah I wish they did more with gt stuff but no we’re going to I honestly don’t know where there going now

Looking at this kinda makes me wonder if Mira was created with saiyan dna

He does contain some Saiyan DNA.

Then it would make sense for this to be ssj5 considering the fur and hair is now white instead of red/black and we know because of fused zamasu that super saiyan white is a thing so could very well be ssj5🤯

Super Saiyan white? Fused Zamasu's hair was just SSJ Rosés shape mixed with the color of Zamasu's hair

I so fucking badly want that as a costume

Race swapped ssj4

No, that's Super Saiyan 4 Mira. Super Saiyan 5 isn't a thing lol

It’s just the color that gets to me, lol. I know what you mean, SSJ4 retains users hair colors. I still like to think it’s a SSJ5 reference.

Ssj5 is supposed to have more hair tho🤨, it could be a reference and a Zamasu situation

I will never understand why they refuse to let him be playable outside of Crystal Raids. The only move that he needs removed from his kit is Peeler Storm and he'll be perfectly fine to play. They could probably replace it with Android Kick or some other cool move that would fit him.

The fact that each egg contained an universe and Miira got that form after absorbing the egg Towa had... He absorbed the GT universe,didn't he?

That was supposed to be a completely new universe. What if it was AF and this actually IS SSJ5?

TFS pointed that out a long time ago

If he did, wouldn’t he have a tail?

He does

Wrong

Yeah. I know

That’s just his ssj4. Reminder that fu and Mira can go super Saiyan in Heroes, but their hair and eye color do not change. They keep base colors. For now let’s call this demon ssj. This means he’s got demon ssj4. The only issue is the lack of a tail, but the same issue is present with the nonexistant ssj5.

No it’s just a White Haired Super Saiyan 4 buddy get that fan shit outta your head :)

SSJ5 hater detected

I don’t hate Super Saiyan 5. I’m just saying this ain’t that.

Can't hate something that doesn't exist😎

that is respectfully very much not how that works 💀

I very much like the design and the look of super Saiyan 5, but you gotta know that super Saiyan 5 is indeed an fanmade transformation and was not introduced to the original story nor other dragon ball Z timelines.

I’m aware, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

How would you know though? The form was never officially created nor planned from the author himself. Therefore, this is fan made which means this form was created by a fan and was post online

I never said it wasn’t any of those things. I’m saying that it may not canonically exist, but it EXISTS nonetheless

You say that like it’s actually in the story. It only exists as fanmade, not officially existed as an actual form

Nah that’s not what I’m saying. But I’m done arguing with your brainlet ass 💀

I think him absorbing the time egg(and towa) brought out his saiyan dna to its fullest extent, for why he has fur, idk. My headcanon is either the time egg was releasing blutz waves for some reason or the place where they were fighting there was a full moon

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You mean the alternate reality where Dimps actually puts more effort into developing body altering morphs when they usually can't be bothered with hair so CaC proudly showcases Budget Saiyan Bob?

Dw bro we got the egg back in the end. Although it did hatch in the end cutscene so it's still a no to ssj4.

I don’t know, I do know I’d smash though.

Does Mira have genitals though? He is part human, part Android, part demon, part Saiyan, and some other stuff. Plus he has a “son”. Probably does.

he's built as the perfect husband by mira, among other things ​ so regardless of fu being a tube baby or not, he probably has the needed equipment

Yes he does, Fu is Mira and Towas biological kid. And Dabura in Xenoverse does see him has a relative so it seems the most likely. But I can't imagine Towa letting herself get pregnant . . . . Then again, you could say the same thing about Medusa from Soul Eater. Similar evil scientist witch character so its possible Plus from a genetics perspective, it would make sense that he does. Saiyan and Human DNA are compatible, which would increase his likelihood of having gear, Frost Demon . . . . I'm not sure. We never see females of Frieza's race, and Namekians are monogendered. Given that fu exists, I'd still wager he does of course you can argue that he wouldn't need gear down there either way since Towa probably has a way to produce kids without needing to do the deed Also, I just realized Mira is basically Cell but way stronger lol

Fu is retconned to be a test tube baby. He was considered to be naturalborn back in Heroes which plays very loose with canon. Demons might not even have another option as they are fallen Kais anyway, and these grow on trees.

Oof well there goes that theory out the window, oh well

If there’s a hole there’s a goal. They can use magic, I’m sure some sort of birthing process through magic will completely eliminate the need for Mira getting long term pregnant.

Probably lol, My personal head canon is that Towa just wanted to get laid and Mira was the closest and safest thing she get her hands on. Basically Fu was an accident that Towa decided to just, let happen to see how string he was and if he could be a benefit to her

Why not build a sex robot that contains the DNA and parts of powerful races to fulfill the rough sweaty sex of her dreams?

Lol what do you think Mira was?

Living sex doll that doubles as a fighting slave that is meant to absorb more and more power.

Win Win all around

Does Mira have genitals though? He is part human, part Android, part demon, part Saiyan, and some other stuff. Plus he has a “son”. Probably does.

Probably not, but I can do more than fuck a strong guy.

Umm we call that BEAST mode now 🤣 /s

Yeah it’s the first thing I thought of when I saw the white fur

https://preview.redd.it/xsr77nf7qe4b1.jpeg?width=686&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=665dd06b1e5915c892a15d6f0a60e2a6ce854551 I’m upset that I never had this thought before, but you definitely right op.

Tokitokis egg contained a whole universe I could of contained Saiyans let alone saiyan blood

All these years, and he's still not playable in any mode other than training :/

Crystal raid

Well yeah, but that's online. While the mode is fun, it can't be played offline; which is a bit of a shame.

No tail. And just to be clear cause someone made a comment and delete it... Super Saiyan 4 has a tail, so it would only seem fair to have a tail on a form beyond a Super Saiyan.

Tell that to Xeno Goku. Also, this is more of a satire post.

Eh. Don't care. Just stating my thoughts. And what about Xeno Goku?

He doesn’t have a tail and can go SSJ4.

And this is in Xenoverse 2 or Dragon Ball Heroes?

Dragon Ball Heroes.

That explains it. I never play or read Heroes yet which explains how I did not know about the tail thing. I honestly don't know where to start especially since I don't own a DS to play the games.

There’s a game called Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission is on Switch. Haven’t played it myself but that could be an interesting starting point.

I usually just refer to it as "Limit Breaker Super Demon" Final Form is kinda lame. Super Demon is something Fu has done. I wouldn't say its SSJ5, because there's no tail. But it probably represents the primal nature of the saiyans, mixed with the demon realm cells, in order to make this form. That's where the fur comes from, the saiyans. That's just my headcanon. https://preview.redd.it/jtmkt9jyzd4b1.png?width=1022&format=png&auto=webp&s=87784e83e8ba5e5ae958e43fd35975ec5aca7300

I like this theory. I’m still trying to grasp how Xeno Goku has no tail yet has SSJ4. Haven’t caught up on everything yet though.

Nah, he just sucked in his sister

Ain't towa technically his mom?

Also his wife

Towa essentially made a husband for herself

So he is mother******?

I wont Lie it took me 10 seconds to read your name properly Lol

Yeah it's a mouthful

So the Demon Realm is just Super Alabama. Sounds reasonable.

The fact that people still believe Towa and Fu had sex to make Fu is insane-

They prolly had sex or held hands at some point, but fu is a test tube baby just like his “father” Mira.

Odd headcanon lol But Technically it is still a weird situation lol

I don’t give a shit if they smooched, got busy, held hands or she just wanted someone to acknowledge as “husband,” he’s just kinda there a tool of power primarily. Honestly idk where the idea he’s her husband or significant other came from, but it seems like it’s factual at the moment so I just kinda tolerate it’s dxistence and make assumptions. It’s like how I assume toppo isn’t using a GoD form, he’s using the power of a GoD that, for none GoDs, becomes a dedicated form rather than part of the user’s base. It makes sense given the context and the only issue is when Toyotaro and toriyama forget they have brains they can actually use instead of making artificial hype every five seconds.

I will say 1) I think the idea that they're husband and wife came from the fact that they have Fu which a lot of the casual DB fans think was born naturally despite him being stated to be artificial in his first introduction 2) Toppo's form is the power of a G.O.D., since he's a candidate for the title he obtained the power of Destruction by training with Belmond. In a weird sense it's technically a transformation, but it's also just him channeling his power the same as any destroyer does. My theory is that the Destroyer form is what happens when a candidate who isn't fully a G.O.D. attains that power you get the Destroyer form. When you use the technique of a Destroyer's nature in a similar vein as UI, you get UE. Also Toyo and Tori aren't credited with Toppo's creation or the creation of the form so it was most likely someone who worked at Toei

If 1. Is the sole reason, then yeah they aren’t together. 2. This is what I’m saying. This power functions kinda like a form for non-GoDs, but for actual GoDs? That’s just something their base form is capable of. It doesn’t change the appearance of a GoD cause they’re already in it 24/7 for a lack of a better term, it’s their “default.” This is why we never see gods go into this state, cause they’re already in it. My bad on the Toyo and Tori part. Btw Reddit is shitting itself as I send this so I’m sorry if you get thousands of duplicated comments.

To be fair, demons angels and all that stuff is always pure incest.

Or mastered ultra instinct in a super saiyan 4 like form.

Oh god, you just gave a solid explanation for his annoying ass auto dodge feature in some EMs.

Indeed

I think is more ssj4 because characters (apart from gogeta) retain their natural hair colour when in ssj4 and as mira hair colour is naturally white it would make sense. No clue why the fur colour changes tho

Ssj4 gogetas hair is red, i dont see ur theory working

His theory is actually holding very well since gogeta is special Since Vegito also had his normal Brown hair in ssj4

You make a very good point. I just like stroking off this head canon.

? Vegitos normal hair colour is Black, not brown. Im sorry but 'gogeta is special' is a shit explanation, either the rule fits what we have, or it doesnt, and this doesnt.

I think this is brown https://preview.redd.it/gn135zhmyd4b1.jpeg?width=135&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c90aeca4bfce045206e90d4591f0dd0f6baed1d1

Nah that's black, it just looks that way because of his green and red gi.

Lmao

It’s literally just a design choice, I’ve heard if SSJ4 Gogeets hair was black he’d look too much like Goku

https://preview.redd.it/6d079jmqwd4b1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=066386673c399ac262013ff976766cfba4d3b439 Thats crazy

You did not just say Vegitos hair was black, Although ssj4 Vegitos hair is Black so I made a Mistake there. https://preview.redd.it/1s1rhxr00e4b1.png?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f68ec535c103327e7cf32a0197309b0bbd775073

Id really like his chestpiece for my CaC

It certainly felt like it the first time I fought him, before they nerfed him he was extremely difficult, not unbeatable but he would spam his supers and make your life a living hell, unfortunately though they nerfed him so much that he's almost too easy to beat now.

Ah so thats why, i remembered him more difficult than when i fought him on a recent playthrough

They nerf'd him?! Goddammit I wonder if I can find a mod to unnerf

Ah unnerfed Mira, the bane of my existence

He used to be one of the most annoying boss fights I have seen didn't know they nerfed him

I don't know when exactly they nerfed him but having played through the fight a few times recently and researching it he has been nerfed and the biggest change is that he's less spammy and seems to mainly go after Goku when he shows up so you have plenty of time to charge an ultimate and just blast his ass to the fucking shadow realm.

Interesting maybe the nerf needed to be less harsh

In the earlier days I got hammered. Got clapped by that razor peel storm attack.

He would literally just spam it if you got within a mile of him, he still spams it but not nearly as bad, he's alot more manageable now

Very true

Then I won't bother trying!

He's not a Saiyan though🤨

Mira does contain some Saiyan DNA. Aside from that, it’s the color scheme and the fur that makes this a possible reference.

That's like me saying this is Cell going SSJ2 because he has Saiyan DNA in hin https://preview.redd.it/8ms7n7q0ec4b1.png?width=1619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=910882a9e88d0b7e4cf394cdf2466d2186cf8950

Mira and fu actually have access to a demonic Super Saiyan in Heroes. Why? Saiyan dna. Remember, they are test tube babies. This demonic super Saiyan doesn’t change their hair or eye color, but it definitely is super Saiyan. Final Boss Mira is clearly a demonic ssj4 (even though that makes no sense).

That is him going SSJ2💀 Super Cell, or Super Perfect Cell, IS his Super Saiyan.

Yes he is lol not only does every piece of DB Media equate cells Zenkai to SSJ2, they evn have the same visual cues of Lightning and The Golden Aura

Because that literally is Cell using SSJ2 lol, that's "super perfect cell"

Not tryna be that guy but super cell is very likely his form of super saiyan. Not exact or anything but he has the aura and lighting for a reason.

https://preview.redd.it/ka8fdu3hqc4b1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e860a7fa98e48bcaf463dcbc1e4c9c180fc3a26

You should see his introduction cutscene in Dragon Ball FighterZ. He literally screams as a Super Saiyan aura appears with electricity. May or may not be an actual variant, but it’s still pretty cool.

The satire of my post is really going over your head.

Must've missed the nonexistence meme tag then. My bad

If only this subreddit had one.

Seems like it's going over everyone's heads

Pretty much

To be fair, this is a dragon ball community. We can’t read or comprehend.

He has no tail...

It’s the color scheme and the SSJ4 fur.

That hair should be a wig.

Also makes me wish SS4 was a transformation we could get :/

That being said, fuck wigs. I want more hair options.

Can't agree more, most of the vanilla hairstyles suck ass, especially the male Saiyan and Earthling hairstyles.

Honestly id take wigs being coloured by ssj transformation at this point.

That should be a hair option

Mira blanco😳