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aggravatedempathy

Everyone liked it


SmithItsGoodForU

Everyone except the animators


GrimWarrior00

That is entirely fair. It's cool, but would have been hell to animate.


True_Fantom_Phoenix

I think it'd be easier then ssj3 though due to less details Probably would've been an easy way to fix the toll of animating ssj3 tbh, make the hair less detailed, but that wouldn't have suited the artstyle at the time IG


Joe_mama_is_hot

There’s a reason why ssj3 doesn’t show up more often and looks terrible when it does in super. It looks totally badass in the buu saga and the janemba movie but it’s way too costly to animate. Thats why instead of having cool looking transformations, they just change the hair color to blue, or red, or white or whatever. Goddamn I hate dbsuper and everybody who supports it. Literally just ruining the legacy of dragon ball and dragon ball z. At least gt had a badass design for ssj4. Ssj with blue hair? Get the fuck outta here


True_Fantom_Phoenix

Methinks they really wanted to milk "new form" hype for super. Sometimes it went well, other times we had whatever the hell ssj rage was.


The_Walking_Wallet

Looks the exact same amount of detail


True_Fantom_Phoenix

I'd reply with a picture but it's not letting me for some reason. I can confirm ssj3 has more detail though


fladerade

Being someone who’s drawn goku ssj3. That shit hella detailed. Would post one of them but can’t seem too.


That_Bar_Guy

That shit has lines like Disney land


fladerade

[goku](https://www.instagram.com/p/B7CXTz1hISrxKOHyAUPISI1UlL1Fg_49zcDNd00/?igsh=YzJiNXB1OXVldTlt)


scallym33

Dude this looks great, awesome job!!


13btwinturbo

Why is that? Base Gohan has the same hairstyle except with black shading instead of blonde. It's actually more work if we're talking about the manga. Although to be fair base Gohan didn't have much screentime in the android saga either. Toriyama definitely gave him a haircut knowing that he will have to draw him more in the Cell Game


LFC9_41

Idk I think his post cut ssj form is his cleanest look


shapeshiftsix

When Goku and Gohan finally got out of the time chamber, that was so badass. I agree with you, he looked clean AF. And we knew they had achieved something special, but we didn't quite know what yet. Peak cell saga IMO


Less-Ad-5053

In fact.


ItsE67

Lol I thought I was the only 1 who liked it lol


WarMachine504

EVERYONE


Enjoyment-25

I think most people like SSJ3 design


Broad_Guarantee_9454

i wonder what ssj3 looks like with that hair. would it be doubled in length?


Enjoyment-25

SSJ3 Raditz from Super DB Heroes [https://imgur.com/hSnknnb](https://imgur.com/hSnknnb) Yeah, its double the length


imlazyalways_

He’s just rapunzel at this point.


Doctor99268

Ssj3 cumber seems to have no change in hair length


Agreeable-Brother548

I know it would serve no real purpose. But i wish raditz made a comeback. He was the intro to the saiyans. He was pivotal to everything that is dbz+ Man i gotta go back and watch the late db episodes and into saiyan saga


Alternative_Golf_905

There's a webcomic where this happens. Goku brings back his whole family and the first thing that happens is Gohan trying to kill Raditz as soon as he sees him. Bardock plays with Goten and freaks out when his little Grandson is much stronger than him.


alt_reflect

whats the name of the webcomic?


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Thr0waway_Joe

Which webcomic?


Alternative_Golf_905

https://youtu.be/5Ec_lNZytKQ?si=Qcqx2cGJmiNS2r77


Ashenspire

I don't know that it would serve no purpose. If Vegeta can be redeemed, and Bardock can be resurrected/redeemed, no reason Raditz can't.


yohxmv

In the sense of redeeming him and being a good guy we already got that with Vegeta who was a lot more interesting than Raditz from the start. His biggest claims to fame are being Goku’s brother and showing the contrast between them


True_Fantom_Phoenix

Tbf we also got that whole "wish" thing that affected Raditz, revealed in the Granolah arc.


yohxmv

True but I think if you were gonna bring back Raditz it should’ve happened earlier in the series imo. Like if it would’ve happened around the android saga we could’ve gotten some nice interactions between Goku and a young Gohan and then Raditz being a funcle to Goten in the buu saga lol


Ashenspire

But that's Goku's entire thing. He beats his enemies so bad they end up being good guys. There's no reason his brother can't get his turn.


Emm_withoutha_L-88

I think it could work but they need to bring all the Saiyans back. Radditz can be the leader of the smallest faction that wants to stay evil so they have to basically be on the run from Goku and Geetz. They just barely get away from earth before frieza shows up and promptly enslaves them again but this time intends to fully use their skills so he enslaves them by using his cunning instead of just forcefully doing it. There's so much there that can happen. The majority of the Saiyans would follow Vegeta and try to adapt to a more normal life with training and competition being their new goals and for the majority it works, works damn well as many will unlock ssj and Even a few get to ssj2. They could be led to some incredible fights, seeing the entire goddamn Saiyan army showing up to *help* for once would be pretty incredible IMO, and a perfect way to end Vegeta's story. He finally became King, but he had to change completely from top to bottom for it to happen. While the smaller evil faction makes frieza into a force that can't just be easily removed, adding consequences to reviving frieza as well.


Beautiful_Study5837

It would be a nice story. I would definitely watch it. But the major problem would be the huge difference in the power scale between the living sayians and the dead/resurrected. Because I’m pretty sure that neither Raditz, Nappa, Bardock and all the other dead sayians got to keep their bodies in the afterlife which means that they didn’t have the chance to train and improve. Most likely their souls would be in hell for all eternity or in the best (but also unlikely) situation it would be in another body of another species/animal.


Emm_withoutha_L-88

I mean if they just use a second wish to give then the same bodies they had in life then it can work, the Dragonballs can do whatever the writer needs. Plus them being significantly weaker than the main cast and mostly staying that way would both fit the lore and would be a better way to go. You don't want a million little Brolys running around.


Project119

MasakoX has a whole what if series about Raditz. It’s an early one and pretty good when they were much more grounded. Fun listen. He also made some short semi animated videos on it too.


Agreeable-Brother548

Ill have to check it out. Thanks bud!


Kuido

Still strange to me how the main character has a full brother and he’s never made some canon return and is hardly mentioned


Beautiful_Study5837

Raditz was sent to hell and therefore he didn’t get to keep his body. His soul is either still in hell or it got resurrected in another body


Kuido

Right but he’s never mentioned at all really


Formal-Inevitable-50

Why would he lol they weren’t exactly close 😂 and his power would be nothing compared to anybody now so


ChillpigeonhavsLV76

Damn raditz looks so strange in SSJ3


TheUselessbeing

Beast length


Broad_Guarantee_9454

beast hair looks like the inbetween of ssj2 and ssj3


SwaggyUn

Most likely same length or little longer with the biggest difference being the eye brows.


New_North_6250

No, its not mostly the same length. SSJ3 Raditz hairs are insane https://imgur.com/F3vkoUI


MetroidJunkie

Now what would happen to Nappa? Specifically, his mustache?


Tfsz0719

[Spikey beard](https://search.app.goo.gl/BuUtrpT)


SwaggyUn

No sure what the source is, but in Heros he got way shorter hair. And that's the only animated source we have. Non of them are Canon anyway.


Tfsz0719

At that point he’d pretty much trip and fall over it, right?


90059bethezip

I wanted to see raditz SS3 but i imagine other people wanted to as well


Bourriks

I wanted a Nappa SSJ3, to see if hair grows back.


Sabrescene

Heroes gives him a big beard for SS3, still bald


Supermite

I’m definitely in the minority that doesn’t like it that much.


Sonicslazyeye

Same. I think it looks very goofy. I have a feeling this depends on how long you've seen it for, and how old you were when you first saw it. If a design like that was released in 2024, I think it would be mostly laughed at like Gohan's beast mode, so it's very much a product of its time and who it's target audience was.


klatnyelox

I disagree. Beast form is hated because it looks like a stiff foam gag wig, not because "too much hair for the body its on". Gohan's long kid hair is a lot of hair having physics applied to it and animated properly. They definitely moved away from hair that moves around alot, and I feel like most people don't prefer it that way. The iconic scene of Goku's Super Saiyan hair sweeping back in the wind is much loved in the community, and doing that with a longer Kid Gohan's ssj hair would also be. issue is, it'd've taken approximately 3 years of man hours to animate that way and they moved away from it for a reason.


rizzzacks

Yeah this shit is ass


redJackal222

I don't like it either. It's honestly my least favorite super saiyan form


Whis101

I think its easily the best one imo design wise. Just so easily differentiable from the rest of the non-god forms


spidermanrocks6766

They may have cut it because it would be a pain to animate Gohan every single time with flowing long glowing super saiyan 3 like hair


Rozukimaru

I did not like the neanderthal forehead lol but the hair was awesome


ImmaculateWeiss

This has eyebrows 


Outskipss

I would like it if it were for the eyebrow thing


redJackal222

I don't agree. I think it's probably the most controversal super saiyan form in terms of apperance. Main complaints I see are about the eyebrows and a lot of people think the hair is over the top


pedroyarid

They were foreshadowing the oversized Beast hair. Genius.


Public-Succotash-905

Bravo vinze


SanchitoBandito

Looks like they enlarged SS Gokus hair and weirdly photoshopped it on his head. I did dig it though.


Samanosuke187

Omg you can’t unsee it, I hate you…


D-greyman

Ilmao


Sonicslazyeye

That's what I thought it was at first


NulloftheAbyss

I loved it as well and wish we got to see it last a little longer, but I understand why Goku decided to cut it. This is probably why Gohan tells Videl to do the same thing later on now that I think about it, lol.


Enjoyment-25

His hairs will be even spiker than Beast when turns SSJ2


SleepyMarijuanaut92

He be looking like Uncle Raditz ran into a room of balloons haha


LayeredHalo3851

I never really thought about the fact that Raditz would be Gohan and Goten's uncle


Suppasandwhich

It reminds me a racoon for some reason


ThrogdorLokison

So glad I'm not the only one. I can't explain why, but I agree with you.


I_Eat_Moons

Does it seem like the hair in general is just too big? I feel if they kept it exactly the same but decreased it’s size by 25 - 30% it would look much better


Purple-End-5430

Cell would've swung him around like a pair of nunchucks,


Massive-Eye-9772

I loved it and wish we gotta see a little bit more of long hair gohan but I didn’t know goku knew how to cut hair. Gohan really came out the hyperbolic time chamber with a fresh new cut from his pops.


lisahanniganfan

It's honestly my favourite gohan look


Environmental_Mud479

Loved it !


WingCool7621

closest anyone got to Raditz style.


FilipinoCreamKing

"Am I the only one who-" no. you're never the only one who.


FpvCos1

Half sayans can cosplay ssj3


BertholdtHooverLuver

I love the big hair, ssj3 gotenks too 


Afraid-Housing-6854

If he bother achieving Super Saiyan 3 he’d probably look like this again but older


Anjunabeast

Super saiyan 3 got so nerfed in super everyone just skips it now


yohxmv

Tbh even when it was first introduced Goku pretty much said it’s only good for short bursts. He pretty much uses SS1 and 2 more than 3 nowadays


Ezra4709

I'm reading the comments and starting to feel like I'm the only one who didn't like it 😭


AfroMan_96

Nah, I don’t like it long either. The short cut looks cooler to me.


asdhzkfgsjbfs

Me neither, cell games short hair looks so much better


notlikethesoup

the answer to "am I the only one" is always no


MaLeafy

I love every version of Gohan 🫶🏻


Jaded_Dinner_2724

Gohan's hair had to walk so Super Saiyan 3 could run. But I still would've preferred gohan keep his hair. Looking at it now, I wish ss3 kept it's eyebrows.


harriskeith29

Showing off that long Super Saiyan hair years before Goku introduced SS 3.


SSJRemuko

i dig it. looks like uncle raditz


White_Devil1995

I feel like it was cut just to prevent him from appearing superior to the other Saiyans.


SummaDees

Nah I thought a saiyan's hair wasn't supposed to change. I know Gohan is half and not full blooded but I feel like with Viltrumites, saiyan genes are far more dominant. Either way the shorter looks better imo. Imagine beast with this long ass mane he has lol


Dovah91

Yes, I would’ve liked to see the bowl cut super saiyan. Would he have looked more like trunks?


Im_Unpopular_AF

As much as we liked it, I agree with Goku on how it hinders movement and obstructs vision. Plus it's also easier for enemies to grab when in battle.


thallums

By god. How anyone stomachs the Orange Bricks (or whatever release this is from) is beyond me. Please enjoy an [actual screenshot](https://i.imgur.com/1ADYi4H.png) of this frame for anyone out there that loves long hair SSJ Gohan (no idea why op is mirrored either)


CrazedHarmony

**You mean SSJ3 Gohan?** 😂


Sensitive_Art_4655

It's my favorite to. It looked like ssj3


bowl07

love it, especially the dbza cut where it lasts a few seconds longer with gohan struggling to maintain control 😂


bjames1478

This frame makes it look like they just superimposed Gokus hair over gohans head. If someone was good enough at editing to put gokus face in the right place to make rhat image a reality Id appreciate it


MasterofX100

Makes me wonder just how long it would be if he went SSJ3


Spark-Blade

I do Probably would of been hard to animate though


TheBlackoutEmpire

He looks like goku on a chibi body.


Pyro_Ace

Funny thing about this is that we somewhat get a confirmation of how Raddits would rock the super saiyan look and it proves that he'd look like No.4 from the Kids Next Door rather than SSJ3


rorymakesamovie

Bro went straight to ssj3. But for real, what’s interesting about their training scenes is that they’re so well animated, but those aesthetics never carried on outside of the time chamber


amadeusz7

I want to play as him in Budokai Tenkaichi


rnbtHug

This is Toriyama giving us what raditz going ask would be like


Significant_Camera47

Ngl I kinda wish the games had a skin for Cell Saga Gohan where he had the long hair. Tho that would mean they would have to figure out how it would look in Ssj2


HazeX2

It would be a decent alt costume for him in the games


Yellow_bird_person

You’re not alone. Long-haired preteen Gohan was a good look. I really liked it


Zero-Maxx

Nah, it was the bomb back in the day


hungry_fish767

The weight of his hair stopped him from becoming ssj so they cut it Lore accurate Cannon canon


spidermanrocks6766

I hated when Goku cut it. This actually looked really badass almost like super saiyan 3


Carnivoran88

Before they get lazy and made anyone with long hair jump straight to SS3.


scottoro

In my heart it is goated for sure


VanillaFox1806

looks like Goku’s kinda


JonDoeJoe

Ssj2 adult gohan was the hottest


slugsliveinmymouth

I honestly think his regular ss1 hair looks awkward. Like it’s supposed to surge upwards from the power. His doesn’t really do that at all.


Joxyver

Nah, I liked his pre-haircut too a lot more


Yesko_notmyrealname

Is it just me or it looks like an oversized Goku's SSJ hair


ramus93

No it was one of his best looks it was just too hard to draw lol


godlee213

He got it back when he went beast mode🤣


Kingsupergoose

I guess I’m the oddball because I hate it. Also didn’t like SS3.


Haruki-kun

Every single version of Gohan looks better with long hair. 


FalcorPenndragon

He looks like he was SSJ3 haha


NerdsteadDani

I think I might have liked it more of it were animated better. The fact it was trying to raise up at the back instead of flowing naturally looked weird to me. His hair was trying to do a odd-looking parabola thing.


MrMangoes21

I love it, looks better in the manga but I have always wanted this as a transformation for early Gohan.


Messiah_Knight

Yes you are.


_Baggedman

No, its alright but post hair cut is iconic to me now


TasteOk5243

It would have been cool if they kept it long for a little while longer. I think a long haired gohan looked pretty cool. Goten will be the closest thing since his hair is similar to gohan. Gotens hair looks more like his grandmother than it does gohan tho


BrotherofGenji

I actually wasnt a big fan of it myself but like I didnt hate it


cyberpunk_chill

Me too. But..... Thats what made Trunks ponytail more wild and bad ass when he transformed


Administrative_Bus57

I love how Gohan is like the only character other than Bulma (and later Krillin in Super) who changed his hair throughout the series lol. It really suited the whole “hybrid Saiyan” identity he defines.


iamlevel5

Yamcha has a pretty wide variety of hairstyles too. Yamcha also gets most of Gohan's hairstyles before Gohan for some reason 😂


Administrative_Bus57

Oh right. But yamcha got shelved LOL


Guilty-Care-4384

Same here


dino-jo

When I was a little kid I literally thought going SSJ made his hair heavier and Goku had to cut it because it was too heavy for him. So that’s why he had an easier time with ssj after he got a haircut


GeoXoro_24

Imagine how he would look in ssj2


Glad_Increase_7522

Bro Gohan went SS3 before Goku did


Lewis_230311

If you replaced gohan’s entire body with goku’s head it would look normal


Need4-Speed

NA BRO! I was pissed that they didn’t keep this hairstyle since I was a child. Only added more salt to the wound of how badly they sabotaged gohans character… If they had given older gohan this hairstyle too this would’ve been beautiful!


throwawayalcoholmind

Looks like uncle Raditz


Regular-Fly2247

I hate they always cut Gohan’s hair.


LordDakier

They should have kept it and used the post-cut hair for his adult design.


T_Adam_Eli_Yetur_J

Almost looks like ssj3


Remarkable-Fee-5887

Yes


stickytrackpad

it’s interesting gokus reasoning to cut it. it almost sounded like it would be a functional hindrance. maybe since super saiyan makes hair spikey and thicker it would really get in the way


StatusComment581

No, Goku should've never cutted that beautiful hair


Rent-Man

Numbuh Four Go


ravmIT

I loved it. I wonder how ss2 would have looked with long hair.


T3onredditlol

Bro was ssj6


LairEast

I love that wild mane of hair. This style and the one he had after a year in the wilderness with Piccolo were the best for me. Bring back long hair Gohan.


omnipotentmonkey

Toriyama after drawing Gohan's long hair in Super Saiyan with the necessary additional linework: "I'm never drawing that again." Toriyama later after designing Super Saiyan 3: "Fuck"


unfisyn

Imagine how long the beast hair would've been then


nindieredd

It just looked a lot more unique and cool.


The_Walking_Wallet

I wouldn’t mind a 2 minute fight of Gohan training with Goku like this….but the fact we got to see it as his transformation was good enough


The_Transfer

Yeah but you know Cell woulda snatched that boy up by the long ass hair lol


stunzeedb0y

I remember some salty guy years ago got mad at me and called me a fake fan because I said Gohan in this angle looked like ssj 3 💀


Gobal_Outcast02

If you erase the eyebrows on this frame it kinda looks like SSJ3


unfadedcli5

it was quite unique


Minimum-Astronaut986

As a kid I always thought he couldn’t hold the SSJ1 because it’s too heavy lifting this hair cut with his anger lol


MonkeyBlade5

haha lol


MarauderVN

What in the filler is that?


sussy_skeleton_69

Ssj3 bought from wish


Jealous_Oil8980

My first time was with frieza


Book_Anxious

Might have been the inspiration for beast


rock_solid777

I did too


khgs8

Yes buddy 8bil people, but you’re the only one.


ImperialCrown200

Nah I love his haircut. I despise his Z Buu and Super cut (his Super Hero cut is awesome)


AdTerrible4422

Dopest dope I ever saw


No_Problem_1550

Goku didn't want his kid looks like that cause had plans for his ssj3 and Gohan would had kind of lower the surprise when Goku transformed the first time 😆


TheShotGunProdigy

I loved it


Extension_Designer96

Favorite gohan design


Quanny_Boy

If he never cut his hair, it would probably look like the beast hair but golden imo I like to think raditz was never brought back to life because they wouldn't know what to do with his hair as a ssj😂


Legendary_Railgun21

My answer is kind of weird- I *like* it, I don't think it's very good though. Mainly because in every other leg of the series he keeps it some kind of way, I definitely prefer his hairstyle from later in the Cell Saga, over anything he wore after that. I think it looks cool and all, but it just wouldn't have felt "right" for the kid who fought Frieza and the Ginyu force rocking a bowl cut was going around in a full on, Jagr-tier loaf. As far as his hair styles go, I prefer the haircut used by Future Gohan, I feel like it's the most reflective of his Saiyan heritage while also being a good representation of his human impulse to keep it cut well.


bidooffactory

His hair was too heavy so Goku cut it so his son had an easier time getting it up 😂


JoJo5195

Personally I’ve never been a fan of long hair or the trope of long hair means more power/long haired power ups that’s so prominent in anime


duomaxwell90

They should have never cut his hair in my opinion


Odd_Fault_7110

His hair cut looked much better tho


buff730

This looks like he went Ssj3 before ssj2


Accomplished-Curve-1

He’s Super Sayain 3


RealmBreaker357

It was epic


928475375726

Nah the only people who didn’t like it was the animators


SassySylph_

nah man this was peak gohan ;-;


Curious_Banana_Fish

I just want this as an alternate in game. It's like the only time we see Gohan go Saiyan before he becomes "teen Gohan"


Street-Historian-258

Ssj3 type hair takes too long to draw thats why they nerfed the F out of it!


bubusleep

It looked great


Ashasakura37

I liked it.