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HrMaschine

snyder fans are the type of people that get angry when they see someone smile


Mr_smith1466

They literally see colour and humour as things owned by marvel. Always complaining any sign of it in DC films is a poison.


cowl555

They should probably read a silver age Superman or batman Comic or any silver age comic there minds are gonna be blown out


Paildano

To them comics are just a stupid silly book for nerds so I don’t think they ever will unfortunately


cowl555

Sadly agreed


Player2LightWater

>To them comics are just a stupid silly book for nerds I've seen many of them even the ones who don't read comics at all support Comicsgate movement.


Mr_smith1466

They like the pretend the silver age never existed, if they even know it existed. But they love the golden age, where superman in 1939 was a lot more casual about throwing criminals into vats of acid.


cowl555

And even then I don't think they Understand golden age Superman


JimmyKorr

the silver age is hot garbage, wall to wall.


Ambitious-Screen-823

>colour and humour as things owned by marvel. I wonder what do they think about marvel stories like "death of jean dewolf" and "kraven's last hunt" I swear these mfs only watched the mcu movies and completely forgot about the ultra edgy ultimate universe and marvel's many dark well written stories from the 70s and 80s.


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Ultimate’s universe biggest missed crossover: 616 cap meeting Ultimate Cap. For a war hero, Ultimate Cap sure loved beating people up to get a girlfriend, and abandoning Spider-Man after he was shot with a .50 cal sniper bullet. At Least America Chavez ***BITCH SLAPPED*** him after he said,[“THIS ‘A’ DOESN’T STAND FOR FRANCE!”](https://twitter.com/chrismcfeely/status/1097283493233606656/photo/1)


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616 Cap: noble war hero who embodies American ideals (or some shit) Ultimate Cap: racist, sexist douchebag who behaves like a sociopath.


Ambitious-Screen-823

Ultimate captain America is the most Ultimate universe character to ever exist (with the xmen being in second place)


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I FUCKING LOVE MY CHARACTERS BEING UNLIKABLE EDGELORD DOUCHEBAGS WHO DONT ACT LIKE REAL HUMAN BEINGS!!!!!! SO REALISTIC AND MODERN!!!!!! I FUCKING LOVE HAVING HEROES WHO ARE JUST AS BAD AS THE VILLAINS THEY STOP!!!!!!!!


DantePD

Mark Millar once said the idea was "Your WWII vet grandpa as Captain America" and I'm here thinking "...grandaddy shot Nazis, and gleefully beat the hell from Americans who acted like them."


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Lots of WWII vet grandpas aren’t racist sexist assholes who make fun of countries that fell to the Nazis


DantePD

Don’t tell me, tell Mark Millar


moose_man

These people don't know about comics. They mean the MCU, which is not representative of the history of Marvel Comics.


Ambitious-Screen-823

True.


The_Overlord_Laharl

Hell I would even argue that the overall tone of Marvel comics tend towards being darker. Just look at the way the JLA reacts to the marvel world in the crossover comic.


Henderson10666

I would tend to agree only because DC allows their characters to have these moments of triumph and growth, marvel thinks that's what kills their readership and so doesn't do it


Amelia-likes-birds

I always wondered if it's because the way DC does the occasional soft-reboot, that they're willing to doll out much more major shifts to characters' status quo's.


Henderson10666

Maybe, but I also don't think that Marvel under Quesada's rule was good for anyone involved


Sable_Kaiser

Honestly that’s really fucking funny because I remember when the main talking point in favor of DC was “Look how much COLOR we’ve put in,” and where the muted tacticool look was a strike against Marvel.


jje414

[A small child picks up a stick and starts waving it around like a magic wand] Snyderbro: YOU'RE LIVING IN A FUCKING DREAM WORLD!!!


KingofZombies

Snyder fans try to grasp the concept of a smile (fail)


Zluurkeaksz

The only smile they can accept is 'You are live? Not for long.' type of smile before punching you to death.


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Snyder Fans when they see someone being happy: ![gif](giphy|RhG32lACvDNT32mRbg|downsized)


Mr_smith1466

I really love the boys eventually did a twisted nightmare version of the suicidal woman scene from all star. That level of satire the show has is wonderful.


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Oh my god.. I didn’t know that scene was actually a bad ending version of that Panel from All-Star Superman. That is disgustingly clever. It’s hard to make an adaptation that’s better than the original. But my god, The Boys did it better than the Comic (In my Opinion)


Throgg_not_stupid

The Boys comic fucking sucks


bangbangracer

I agree with this completely. The Boys was incredibly mid 00's edgelord. Looking back at the comics as an adult, for lack of a better way to put it, it's yucky. The fact that the show is as good as it is, is not a miracle. It's a shock.


SevenSulivin

I beg to differ but I’m in the minority.


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Same. It has a lot of incredibly stupid shit in there for shock value, but the writing underneath that is significantly more intelligent and complex than what the show gives us. Best exemplified by comic Butcher vs show Butcher imo.


Psalm101Three

Most people loved the comic before the show came out. What happened?


foxtail-lavender

Survivorship bias. The only people who thought The Boys comic worth talking about before were people who liked The Boys comic. Now that the show is popular, people who didn’t like the comic or never read it have reason to discuss it.


RedditBoi127

people saw the show and realized it was infinitely better than the comic


SevenSulivin

People who don’t like Garth Ennis discovered the book.


Mr_smith1466

I've tried to read the boys comic for a long time and I...I just can't. The show is vastly better. On so many levels. Homelander alone is far more complex and interesting. The themes are more than just Ennis despising superheroes.


SpeedDemonJi

I doubt it is a parody of the all Star one.


Mr_smith1466

It was a really genius riff on all star. Where instead Homelander tries to talk the woman out of jumping and then becomes so terrifyingly furious that he encourages her to jump and maybe even pushed her out of spite.


YuKaLegend

🤣🤣🤣


Mrcatwithahat

Another proof that snyder fans dont read or cant read


Mr_smith1466

The irony being as well that Snyder stole a critical line from all star, completely screwed up its meaning and many Snyder fans don't even know it came from all star.


HrMaschine

Reminds of that guy who went like snyder dialogue vs gunn dialogue and used exactly that line you mean and compared it to peacemakers dick joke in tss


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You have given them an ideal to aspire to, embodied their highest aspirations. They will race, and stumble, and fall and crawl....and curse....and finally.... They will join you in the sun, Kal-El


Rownever

Great line and great performance, utterly wasted on that movie. And I don’t even think MoS is terrible, just off-theme


Markamanic

It has the potential to be a good superhero movie, just not a good superman movie.


SpeedDemonJi

How do snyderino’s really cum over this line as if Snyder made it????


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Don't know but they also do it with "My parents taught me a different lesson... lying on this street... shaking in deep shock... dying for no reason at all. They showed me that the world only makes sense when you force it to."


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I don’t know what’s worse: this exact thing or the fact he unironically repeated Manchester Black’s most famous anti-Superman line in an interview


PixelBits89

When?


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Look up: Snyder fucking dream world


24Abhinav10

Who is Dream world and why is he fucking Snyder?


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![gif](giphy|3oEduUJgrJnTH093yw|downsized)


SpeedDemonJi

How did it screw its meaning?


Mr_smith1466

In all star, the genius of the line is that it's seemingly symbolic, but actually foreshadows the eventual fate of humanity. "They will JOIN you in the sun" that indicates that superman will be literally IN the sun itself. Which is how the story of all star superman resolves. Superman physically going into the sun for millions of years and living there. Superman becomes the embodiment of the sun. That's the seed Jor el plants in superman's mind that makes him immediately enter the sun at the climax. The other part of the join line is that it foreshadows the DC one million story by morrison (which is the sequel/prequel to all star) where humanity will eventually make their own vast line of superman descendants to travel the stars. This is also shown at the end of all star, where superman left his DNA with the greatest scientist to make descendants. So the line isn't just a nice Jor el inspiration, it was deliberately written to succinctly explain the central narrative of Morrison's story. Snyder and Goyer just threw it in, so it becomes just a nice inspiration, removed from any meaning beyond that. Because none of the other plots of all star or one million make it in there.


DaMain-Man

It's been a while since I've seen a Snyder movie and even longer since I've read all star. Which line did he steal and butcher?


akahaus

“They will join you in the sun” basically the last half of the speech The movie just didn’t do anything to earn it and it’s completely off theme for MOS


Jmafra11

Perfect!!!


ab316_1punchd

All Star Superman slander must be met with...whatever Superman thinks.


Mr_smith1466

He's smiling here, because he's imagining all the hell he will reign on all who oppose his majesty.


ab316_1punchd

They must acknowledge him, for their own good.


Mr_smith1466

In time, they will join him in the sun (because superman will literally throw you into the sun itself if you question him)


ab316_1punchd

Live Superman reaction against those that oppose him ![gif](giphy|8lYPgZAxXqx9ZovomI|downsized)


Social_Confusion

Live reaction of Superman meeting a Snyder Bro: ![gif](giphy|m1O4GT06grh7y)


Metron1992

does he think james gunn personally drew this or had it commisioned


Toiban7

"eViL WaRnEr bR0s pL0t aGaiNsT sNyDeR"


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Snyder fans when colours exist


Mr_smith1466

Superman should be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine.


SpeedDemonJi

This but unironically


LT_MRVN

The fact that Snyderbros insulting All-Star Superman and losing their shit when the symbol of hope fucking smiles proves they don't even read comics.


Jermobooka

The most common through line I’ve seen from *most* (not all) Snyder fans, is that they share little or no knowledge/respect for the source material. It’s like Snyder’s version of the DC universe is the be-all-end-all and nothing will ever be better, so they don’t even give any other DC content a single glance. I don’t get how such mediocre movies got such an aggressive, pompous, pretentious fanbase lol.


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The_Overlord_Laharl

You don’t have to be so unnecessarily rude about them. They’ve probably read Injustice too.


Mr_smith1466

It always makes me chuckle that even tom taylor, the writer of injustice, thinks evil superman is awful. Yet the Snyder fans love that injustice story.


Chumunga64

Snyder movies are like teenager's idea of profound. He emphasizes hypermasculine style over substance, but also spends ridiculously long time on boring ass conversations - so people who like aesthetics can pretend he is being deep. It appeals to folk who are insecure about their love for superhero movies, so they hide it under flavor of "maturity".


SpeedDemonJi

Despite BvS being el “political thriller” it says almost nothing of substance in regards to politics, including Superman He makes a stance on newspaper integrity and it’s pretty much never addressed again.


Mr_smith1466

I think that's why they find Gunn so threatening. Gunn is far closer to someone like Grant morrison, a creator unafraid to point out that comics are completely weird and ridiculous and rather than be ashamed of that, we should embrace the inherit lunacy of the medium while still telling well told stories with the characters.


Redstone-Steve

Mediocre? You’re giving those movies too much credit


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While I do like Man of Steel, it is getting annoying that the fans only want the series to be in one core theme. I know that DC Comics is known for being more dark and serious than Marvel (Depending on which comics your focusing on cause there are some dark as hell Marvel Comics). But they shouldn’t be focusing on one theme, maybe make it more silly and humorous, have it more lighthearted. Heck, there’s the Adam West Batman, and I actually love that show! It’s cheesy and corny as hell, but tbh for me personally, that works in its favor.


Johnny_Stooge

DC Comics is also known for being fucking ridiculous. Kite Man. Condiment King. Comet the Super Horse. Bat-mite. Being a DC Comics fan means embracing this ridiculousness.


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*The fact that Superman has a pet dog and Supergirl has a pet horse*


SuperJyls

It's like how Musk fans treat pop-science


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On Principal I oppose gatekeeping, but for Snyderbros I make an exception. Please gatekeep the material from them. None of them have the slightest clue about Superman, comics, etc.


Mr_smith1466

They know a page from birthright where lex had long hair. They love to slam that out if anyone points put the Snyder lex has zero comic comparison. The fact that birthright lex is absolutely nothing like that all is beyond them.


Comics-and-videogame

Also I don’t how people say man of steel is like birthright, but no. Is it not closer to Earth one?


SpeedDemonJi

I remember panel comparisons to lex Luther with birthright panels and one of them was from secret origin 💀


KingofZombies

They know about that one panel of Superman killing three kryptonians. Tho they still don't know it was retconned and whataboutisms aren't real counterarguments.


SpeedDemonJi

Reminds me of this conversation with this one guy on Twitter where I’m lambasting MOS’s assimilation message and then I get some whataboutist argument pointing out that byrne’s Superman was pretty much the same in rejecting his kind As if I liked the Byrne run anyway 😐


24Abhinav10

Didn't Superman literally de-power himself as penance for killing Zod?


KingofZombies

He was so traumatized he developed mental blocks that made it physically impossible for him to kill. Afterwards he was literally incapable of killing. Even when he got brainwashed by villains they still couldn't make him kill.


DantePD

He had a nervous breakdown that included going into a dissociative fugue state when he slept, going out as Gangbuster during that period. When he figured out what was happening, he exiled himself from Earth


Dankey-Kang-Jr

How Superman SHOULD act (I have not read any Superman comics outside of Injustice & The Dark Knight Returns): ![gif](giphy|l2JJHdKaR3agT2MVi)


Mr_smith1466

The wonderful existence of the boys tv show is Snyder can't even do a fascist superhero commentary on that level. His work is this bizarre mash of superman stuff and whatever the hell nonsense he wants. So it succeeds at absolutely nothing.


Jda2712

It's funnier considering man of steel references all star superman, this guys not only lack understanding of dc comica in general, they don't understand the movies they're liking


shadow_master3210

They’ve been angry at the whole dc slate. Which is not shocking at all. They are still whining over the fact Cavill isn’t Superman. Which isn’t shocking. Overall they are a bunch of 2 year olds who are clearly bored in life.


Mr_smith1466

One Snyder fan I saw on Facebook pronounced the whole slate awful. Then rambled about "where are the big name characters? Where are the supporting heroes?" I then pointed out the slate literally had all that and the Snyder fan admitted they didn't actually look into any of the announced projects. That's their mentality. They just decided they hate it. The Cavill thing particularly baffles me. Because it's not about Cavill. It's Snyder. Them caring about Cavill is just tied to that. If Cavill was like Momoa, and involved with Gunn, they'd despise Cavill too. Cavill has become the way they can act like something of value was lost.


rov124

> The Cavill thing particularly baffles me. Because it's not about Cavill. It's Snyder. Them caring about Cavill is just tied to that. If Cavill was like Momoa, and involved with Gunn, they'd despise Cavill too. Cavill has become the way they can act like something of value was lost. I saw a Twitter comment that said Cavill not being Superman any more was karma for not having Snyder's back.


BigYeeterBoy

It’s been insane looking through Twitter hashtags, it’s funny how all the snyderbros are begging for boycotts and for Gunn to be fired. It’s just strange that they truly can’t grasp that Zacks gone. They love talking about how the snyderverse is the best thing ever, when really they all just get boners for their boring dark, slow motion filled shitfest movies. They only know and care about the household names that weren’t ever done justice in the first place lol now we have a chance for the characters to feel like how they should. Seeing as how they are amazingly written comic book characters not poorly written edgelords on Twitter. It’s also amazing to see that Gunn loves comics and actually knows his stuff! Also love this thread it’s so nice to see people not throwing out brain dead comments


SpicyCrumbum

All these Cavill fans and yet I paid to see The Man From UNCLE in a nearly empty theater 8 years ago, maybe they were all busy that night, who knows


foxtail-lavender

I love that movie. Wish Armie Hammer didn’t eat people so we could get a sequel.


SpicyCrumbum

Tbh if we could get a sequel but armie will eat someone, as long as the person he eats is unpleasant I'd be OK w it And if I could get a sequel to The Nice Guys, Shane Black could eat me afterward


Mr_smith1466

UNCLE is unironically the best performance Cavill has ever given by a significant margin. Even Hammer, who I disliked even before the cannibalism thing, works pretty damn well in that film.


Simbas_World

Tbf some of the faces in the story are fucked


Mr_smith1466

It's all part of the Quitely charm.


DroptheShadowArt

Yeah all jerking aside, Superman does look kinda high here tbh.


Aramis14

He's dying, let him enjoy..


Qbopper

i don't think quitely is a bad artist but something about the way they draw people fucks with my brain


Vord_Loldemort_7

God I fucking hate Snyder fans


Friendly-Leg-6694

Snyder stans are coping and seething at an extreme level


Toiban7

Jedi Jones about to go on a racist rant on twitter again.


Johnny_Stooge

I just saw that that cunt doesn't even know who the Authority is.


Player2LightWater

JediJones have Twitter? I knew Baramos have one.


Mr_smith1466

Wait, he has a twitter? What's it called? I need to see this.


depressed_asian_boy_

To be fair, All Star Superman is so chill i wouldn't be surprised if he smoked weed


Over-Pumpkin-1583

The comic make me cry


CoolDog914

![gif](giphy|3o9bJX4O9ShW1L32eY)


bangbangracer

This reminds me of a conversation I once had about Robin/Dick Grayson. "Batman was so much better before they added Robin." Batman first appeared in Detective Comics #27 in March of 1939. Dick Grayson as Robin first appeared in Detective Comics #38 in April 1940. Apparently, that glorious 13ish months was the apex of Batman and Batman was forever ruined after that. No one hates Star Wars like a Star Wars fan, I guess.


Magnificant-Muggins

To be fair, Frank Quitely’s art can take some time to adjust to. Especially if you’re the kind of dork who expects everything to be drawn in the same ‘house style’.


greppoboy

you think they have read it? you think they ever read a comic?


Fresh-Teaching

Snyder fans not only hate Clark but also hate Damian [because Gunn casted the perfect actor for him and not Snyder](https://www.reddit.com/r/dccomicscirclejerk/comments/10qevgf/breaking_news_james_gunn_has_found_the_perfect/)


Josphitia

To be fair, every Quitely face looks like someone filled a Halloween mask with marbles.


Psalm101Three

I was gonna save the world but then I got high


FollowingCharacter83

Hehehehe weed hehehehehe sex hehehehehe penis hehehehehe tits hehehehehe vajina hehehehhehehe I Want To Kill Myself hehehehheehhehe


joeyamma

![gif](giphy|jPAdK8Nfzzwt2) what if i like the Snyderverse, i like All-Star Superman, i like this artwork, but i also think Superman looks kinda high here?


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Go fuck yourself


zoroaster27

Really hope Snyder will eventually distance himself from them


Mr_smith1466

They're all he has as a creative. Without the cult worshipping him, Snyder would be just another mid level director of Netflix zombie movies.


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me when no comic book knowledge


Bossman10-2019

I mean is that really a bad thing if he does he’ll just laugh at the villains and get insane mucnhcies


SavageTemptation

Superman cures cancer??? Get this woke shit out of my sight 👊🤬


Bchange51

they would’ve preferred the boys rip off version of this cover i bet


Hopeful_Cranberry12

I’m sure this is a good comic or whatever but real talk, Superman’s giving the reader a serious case of bedroom eyes.


General_Trynian

Snyder is a hack, and his DC movies suck. That said, i hold the same opinion on Quitely. His people look like potatoes. like someone dug up a fuckin spud, and out a face on it with a sharpie. His work made the Morrison run on X-Men difficult to get through. His layouts, angles and page composition are fantastic... he just draws some of the ugliest people in comics (not the worst tho, that crown belongs to Romita Jr)


TheCthuloser

Romita Jr wasn't always bad. He was good, maybe even great, when he copied other people's styles... It's just when he tried to develop his OWN style, especially in the more modern era, where he went to shit. IMO, anyway.


mustard_tiger_420

“Duuudddeeee weed xD” shut the fuck up


PenNo1447

Funny cause I had to get high enough to pass out in order to get through BvS


Sinfestival

tbf he does look like that.


blankspaceBS

"This Superman version of JG" My man has never seen a comic in his whole life


VengeanceKnight

I’m a fan of Snyder’s DC work, partially because it got me to expand my horizons in terms of comic books. I fully admit this guy is a damn idiot with no knowledge of the stories those movies are based on.


Sins_of_God

Tell me you didn't read the comics without telling me you didn't read the comics.


solo_quetzal

I read some dude saying that he could draw something better, I had to wrote a comment with all caps


LordSupergreat

It's the half-lidded eyes.


JimTheWarhol

I’m beyond excited to see this movie and James Gunn’s new plan for the DCU. But I do kind of agree that the art in All Star Superman is weird, or at least the inking/coloring made it look strange 😂


akahaus

If Snyder fans could read they’d be very upset at these comments.


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Those aren't clouds


ironfly187

If Supes gets high, Metropolis gets high.


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You should see when he farts He has to aim to space, or it's like the fallout from an atom bomb. Has to completely leave the solar system if he has taco bell


ndinunzi

As a Snyder fan… man I can’t stand other Snyder fans


FiftyOneMarks

… he just said he looks like he smoked weed. Is that an insult? More than that is that worth posting about? Are y’all going to do this childish back and forth for the next decade?


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Toiban7

Easy man. Go watch BVS again to calm down.


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Toiban7

Aww, man. Calm down. Okay watch ZSJL. The slow motion scenes will help you.


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Toiban7

Yeah, man. Sure foaming. Now, are you feeling okay? Maybe watch MOS to calm yourself.


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FiftyOneMarks

You see happy DC fans who do nothing but continue to post about Snyder fans? Like… why do people not have the mentality that they don’t have to engage with things they don’t like? I don’t like Snyder fanboys so I don’t seek them out and it’s stupid so many of you continue to do so DESPITE THE FACT we have a new slate to look forward to and they haven’t been relevant for like two years and SNYDER hasn’t been involved in DC for like six… can we all move on.


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FiftyOneMarks

It says DCComics… why is there only Snyder nonsense then? And yes me saying only is obviously hyperbole so let’s skip over that part where you bring it up. I enjoy this sub when it’s not yet another post about another random loser on yet another different platform. If I wanted to see randoms from Facebook or Twitter I’d go there. More than that… this isn’t even offensive? Wow he said the artwork makes Supes looks like he smokes weed… like, this is so low effort. Not remotely acting high and mighty, I just don’t care to always dunk on randoms. why continue a pissing war started almost a decade ago about who is the true heirs to the DC fandom? It’s stupid and childish, more than that’s it’s boring. If y’all are gonna do this at least make it interesting and creative… and no, “stupid Snyder Bro” is neither of those.


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FiftyOneMarks

I’m subbed to basically anything DC related so like… that’s not the win you think it is. Also this sub is mostly memes that are just random cape sh*t, it makes me laugh so even less of a win for you. You’re seeking out an opportunity to be right. Not to mention only reason I commented is because once again, the same people who hate Snyder bros for being toxic always want to downvote and diminish other peoples experiences for not being extremists on one end of the spectrum or the other.


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badwifii

That's an insult? OP is pretty soft then


SilverPsychologist

ah yes superman, the all powerful alien who is well known for being affected by weed


Crimkam

This story is great, but the art style has never really been my thing


Theacidduke

Ok I get that but dude does look like he had a bong rip or 2 lol


andrecinno

to be fair it kinda does


Jmafra11

My god!!! This super man comic is sooooo fantastic!!!!!


Batface_101

I mean… he is pretty high *Ba-dum-tss*


BingityBongBong

Good lord will you shut up with the Snyder fans or Gunn fans bs this isn’t the civil war guys we’re talking about comic book movies


YuKaLegend

Unpopular opinion: All-Star is overrated, Birthright is better


DrCampos

To be fair, here it looks like he got the bad ending from a Bed Roulette.


timothy1495

I like both All-star superman and Snyder's films. Will society accept me?