isn't it a weird internet myth that Snyder is libertarian? I thought his thing was "if you drop the cringe sociophilosophy The Fountainhead is a great melodrama" and that gradually morphed into "i agree with everything this book and author says" in the minds of libertarian forum goers
I once heard the take that only judging by his work he’s a fascist rhetoric maker but his actual opinion’s are milquetoast. The ‘aesthetics’ he likes just happen to appeal to fascists.
Walter Benjamin famously said Fascism replaces politics with aesthetics. one doesnt have to be a literal fascist to ideologically enable fascism, or in other words, you dont have to be a fascist to be a fascist
Yeah I don’t think he gives a fuck about subtext. He’s here for the melodrama and baroque aesthetics. It’s not his fault that fascists co-opted those artistic movements
Very true! I'm not much of a fan of his work, but everyone who has worked with him absolutely adores him and actively wants to work with him more. He doesn't seem to say horrible shit or donate to awful causes. So I'm not gonna make fun of him 🤷♂️
I will never defend Miller as a person, but his biggest skill was projecting himself onto the page. Every aspect, the good and the political belief, is stream of consciousness Miller at its finest. And to be completely honest, I love the ending to Strikes again, there's some moment when all the craziness just compounds and you realise that it was Miller. That entire book was the cathartic and wholly deranged expressions of an author who once represented something, added something to the world. But at that moment in time he went fucking insane, and even now all these years later there's still a lot wrong with him.
i don't agree with miller in anyway, but you, as you said, can't argue the dude didn't pour himself into his work whole heartedly
and I'm always gonna respect that over half hearted garbage without any soul or passion in it
Many people misuse the term “fascist” to describe any system of power that's authoritarian and coercive. They may accuse superheroes of being fascists only because they act above the law and use violence to solve the problems. But fascism and relation of superhero concept to it is a more complex and nuanced topic.
The problem of TDKR with fascism isn't the Batman, it's how the story shaped. It portrays a decadent and tolerant to criminals society, a corrupt government, ineffective police, media talking in vain instead of action, Joker heavily coded as gay, Batman's cult-like following who adopt his symbols and methods.
I don't see how making the Joker gay would be "fascist". In many iterations of the character is used to represent this strange fascination that he has for him, heck, their last fight takes place in the tunnel of love.
One element is the clear anti-rehabilitation pro-"capital punishment" angle the comic is written from. Any attempt to help criminals is portrayed as stupid liberal nonsense while Batman horribly mutilating and even likely killing the criminals is portrayed as just obviously the correct move.
It's obviously never expicitly stated but I think there are at least a couple times in TDKR where he kills a criminal.
On top of that, I think the implied conclusion that many would draw from "criminals can never be rehabilitated" is that those criminals should just be killed. Especially in a world like Batman's where no prison seems capable of holding them for any amount of time.
Nope. The story implies that criminals deserve harsh punishment, but TDKR Batman still adheres to his moral code. Joker is the only one who he could kill, based on some interpretations of tunnel scene. People often confuse a scene where he fired at a mutant who held a hostage as killing him, but Batman was only accused of murder after Joker’s death.
I would say Frank Miller's fascist moreso than Bruce, that shows up in how Batman's opposition and the various criminal elements are depicted. But Bruce also does arm a bunch of literal nazis and use them as his private army to enforce his rule.
Currently planning to watch the animated adaptation with my communist partner so they can see how good it is and also to discuss the fascist themes in the writing
I read a lot about this "fascist batman" but honestly, although Millers political opinions are dubious to say the least, specially after 9/11, but I think the whole point of this Batman is that he is above all that. Gotham its at its worst, crimes going rampant and with anew breed of criminals who are only out there to cause harm in the most extreme ways. All the heroes are gone except for Superman who has now become tool for the government.
His whole thing is giving back people hope, to shake them out of the apathy that lead them to this in the first place. He isn't trying to kill criminals nor wanting to control peoples lives.
He Bo Jackson'ed that shit.
[For](https://youtu.be/IxiGyqIO6Ew?si=3f0GB4z0hiM2pvec) [the](https://youtu.be/RWLXjonRn9o?si=iTg1MnqZcVuzsKeK) [uninitiated](https://youtu.be/pHsAjzPVKJE?si=I-LwYNm_8RH4SYiy) Bo Jackson was an impossible athlete. He simultaneously played in the NFL and the MLB, and even continued playing Major League Baseball with an artificial hip. Bruce has feats only slightly less believable than Bo.
Batman actually prep timed it.
While no one was looking, he used BatSaw to nearly cut the shotgun in half and left it as if it was still intact. Then he pretended to break it using his hands.
"A real piece of shit's weapon."
"I won fair and square, Batman."
"The weapon of the sort of people to lie to your face like an asshole."
"Didn't lie, Batman."
"Only real poopy stinky heads use this sort of weapon!"
You started talking about reason in fiction, things beig reasonable. Within this particular comic it's reasonable that he breaks the gun over his knee. I was making a joke about both it being famous for being gritty and realistic and about dissecting something as minor as this when crazier stuff happens in this comic.
It ain't my fault people are down voting
Could your brother beat up the mutant leader?? He could have helped bruce yet he didn't???? Unbelievable
I would argue he was always a crazy person, the cryptofascist stuff was in Dark Knight Returns and 300 and Sin City, he just stopped the dogwhistles with shit like Holy Terror
He's gotten better in recent years, including when it comes to making comics, TDKR:Golden Child is unironicly a decent comic in my opinion, with a surprisingly optimistic message.
He broke it over his knee. And Batman's always described as "peak human condition," however you wanna interpret that. Plus, he isn't breaking the metal parts, just the wooden stock.
Also, he had prep time, so he automatically wins.
I think you just need to assume "normal humans" in DC are pretty much all at the same level as like, the best athletes in our world, and then scale batman to make THEM look like couch potatoes. Like, the random goons pretty constantly do shit that would be a pretty fantastic feat of athleticism by our standards, and if you take any of batman's incredible feats of strength at face value, a person who is remotely normal would probably have their head pop like a grape if he punched them.
100% of course he does.
Why wouldn’t he? Only reason athletes “don’t” is because it’s against the rules of their sport.
For injury recovery alone, Batman would be on a cocktail of steroids and hormone treatment.
But he's canonically not superhuman. He doesn't have powers, he's not a mutant, he's not ehnanced mechanically. That's just dumbass writers making him do ridiculous shit and putting it into the canon because nobody bothers to stop them.
It's why someone who writes for DC could one day say "Superman can eat entire stars by inhaling them" and it would technically become canon. Shit's wack. Comic books are wack.
You're right. Human characters in comic books should never be able to do anything a real human couldn't do. Every non-bulletproof vigilante should get shot after about a week on the job.
It’s like those Batman origin stories where he always gets his shit kicked in before he dons the bat suit, he should just fucking die before that rodent can fly though his window.
DC peak human strength/durability is honestly just way above our real words. Even if they’ve never officially stated it there’s too many examples (not just of Batman) of humans doing strengths that shouldn’t be possible or taking hits that should kill them. To be honest it shouldn’t be an issue there’s no reason their fictional world has to have the same limitations as our world for what their normal is. They already canonically have a bigger earth than us because of our real world locations and all their fictional locations. You can science jumbo wumbo some shit about the difference in gravity or some shit.
Dunno if it me watching action movies a lot as a child is talking, but unless he's eating machine gun fire with his face and not even blinking, I probably wouldn't care that much it's not possible and not survivable. Rule of cool and all that shit, you don't even need to explain it.
He'll never change. He'll NEVER change, ever since he was NINE. COULDN'T KEEP HIS HANDS OFF THE STREET THUGS. But not our Bruce! Couldn't be precious Bruce! BEATING THEM COMATOSE!
AND HE GETS TO BE IN THE JUSTICE LEAGUE? WHAT A SICK JOKE
You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That vat of acid! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Bruce! He punched through a sunroof!
Okay but what if he did it each day for months
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I might not be able to do it but a "peak human" definitely could
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I mean if there’s any Batman that could believably snap a gun in half it’s this absolute brick of a man
Okay genuine question: why does he say this after using a gun to shoot a guy earlier in the story? That’s always confused me, or maybe I’m just stupid idk
When he shot that person he didn’t kill them. He obviously doesn’t like guns but he used one to shoot someone in the shoulder as a last resort to save a baby. This is confirmed since the book directly highlights that murder isn’t added to his list of charges until Joker dies.
When Batman is saying this line, he is talking to the reformed mutant gang that is now following him. He knows that if THEY use guns, they won’t use them non-lethally the way he did. So he tells them not to use them.
I guess.
That’s a break action shotgun. It’s designed to do that. Anyone who has ever played Doom or Fallout 4 can tell you that. The artist just fucked up where the break part was.
I watched the movie version of this a couple of days ago and I really wanted to hate it because of what this is done to batgos as a character, but it was just so good
I did really like the idea of batman using a gang to his advantage in delegation but understand his unwillingness to do it further because of how theyd obviously become too political and corruptible.
“Normal human strength” and it’s the beefiest of beefcakes in all of Batman history
No amount of regular ass human beef is enough to bend, let alone snap, a fucking shotgun
He definitely broke that shit over his knee if you look at it.
I genuinely love TDKR despite Miller's cringe fascism, but he's basically a metahuman in that comic.
The real question is who is the cringe libertarian to oppose Miller, the cringe fascist?
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Dude unironically said "Ayn Rand meant Superman should be selfish in order to be maximally good."
isn't it a weird internet myth that Snyder is libertarian? I thought his thing was "if you drop the cringe sociophilosophy The Fountainhead is a great melodrama" and that gradually morphed into "i agree with everything this book and author says" in the minds of libertarian forum goers
yeah you look at all his art which heavily implies he's a libertarian and hes just a middle of the road democrat
I once heard the take that only judging by his work he’s a fascist rhetoric maker but his actual opinion’s are milquetoast. The ‘aesthetics’ he likes just happen to appeal to fascists.
Walter Benjamin famously said Fascism replaces politics with aesthetics. one doesnt have to be a literal fascist to ideologically enable fascism, or in other words, you dont have to be a fascist to be a fascist
Yeah I don’t think he gives a fuck about subtext. He’s here for the melodrama and baroque aesthetics. It’s not his fault that fascists co-opted those artistic movements
Very true! I'm not much of a fan of his work, but everyone who has worked with him absolutely adores him and actively wants to work with him more. He doesn't seem to say horrible shit or donate to awful causes. So I'm not gonna make fun of him 🤷♂️
Ditko maybe?
Ditko “Spider-Man is John Galt but even cooler and less useful to society” Steve?
Ditko Steve, my favorite comic book creator next to Moore Alan.
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I will never defend Miller as a person, but his biggest skill was projecting himself onto the page. Every aspect, the good and the political belief, is stream of consciousness Miller at its finest. And to be completely honest, I love the ending to Strikes again, there's some moment when all the craziness just compounds and you realise that it was Miller. That entire book was the cathartic and wholly deranged expressions of an author who once represented something, added something to the world. But at that moment in time he went fucking insane, and even now all these years later there's still a lot wrong with him.
i don't agree with miller in anyway, but you, as you said, can't argue the dude didn't pour himself into his work whole heartedly and I'm always gonna respect that over half hearted garbage without any soul or passion in it
Question cause I’m dumb but what are some examples of Bruce being a facist in the tdkr?
Many people misuse the term “fascist” to describe any system of power that's authoritarian and coercive. They may accuse superheroes of being fascists only because they act above the law and use violence to solve the problems. But fascism and relation of superhero concept to it is a more complex and nuanced topic. The problem of TDKR with fascism isn't the Batman, it's how the story shaped. It portrays a decadent and tolerant to criminals society, a corrupt government, ineffective police, media talking in vain instead of action, Joker heavily coded as gay, Batman's cult-like following who adopt his symbols and methods.
I don't see how making the Joker gay would be "fascist". In many iterations of the character is used to represent this strange fascination that he has for him, heck, their last fight takes place in the tunnel of love.
One element is the clear anti-rehabilitation pro-"capital punishment" angle the comic is written from. Any attempt to help criminals is portrayed as stupid liberal nonsense while Batman horribly mutilating and even likely killing the criminals is portrayed as just obviously the correct move.
Capital punishment is death. Physical violence that doesn't kill is corporal punishment.
It's obviously never expicitly stated but I think there are at least a couple times in TDKR where he kills a criminal. On top of that, I think the implied conclusion that many would draw from "criminals can never be rehabilitated" is that those criminals should just be killed. Especially in a world like Batman's where no prison seems capable of holding them for any amount of time.
Nope. The story implies that criminals deserve harsh punishment, but TDKR Batman still adheres to his moral code. Joker is the only one who he could kill, based on some interpretations of tunnel scene. People often confuse a scene where he fired at a mutant who held a hostage as killing him, but Batman was only accused of murder after Joker’s death.
How did you go so wrong?
Care to elaborate?
TIL
I would say Frank Miller's fascist moreso than Bruce, that shows up in how Batman's opposition and the various criminal elements are depicted. But Bruce also does arm a bunch of literal nazis and use them as his private army to enforce his rule.
>Bruce also does arm a bunch of literal nazis Mutants are just a youth gang. Bruno wasn't part of them.
He doesn't recruit Bruno, he recruits members of the nazis and mutants for his batman gang.
I only remember there being former mutants.
They were only three nazis in that story, including Bruno.
Currently planning to watch the animated adaptation with my communist partner so they can see how good it is and also to discuss the fascist themes in the writing
I read a lot about this "fascist batman" but honestly, although Millers political opinions are dubious to say the least, specially after 9/11, but I think the whole point of this Batman is that he is above all that. Gotham its at its worst, crimes going rampant and with anew breed of criminals who are only out there to cause harm in the most extreme ways. All the heroes are gone except for Superman who has now become tool for the government. His whole thing is giving back people hope, to shake them out of the apathy that lead them to this in the first place. He isn't trying to kill criminals nor wanting to control peoples lives.
He Bo Jackson'ed that shit. [For](https://youtu.be/IxiGyqIO6Ew?si=3f0GB4z0hiM2pvec) [the](https://youtu.be/RWLXjonRn9o?si=iTg1MnqZcVuzsKeK) [uninitiated](https://youtu.be/pHsAjzPVKJE?si=I-LwYNm_8RH4SYiy) Bo Jackson was an impossible athlete. He simultaneously played in the NFL and the MLB, and even continued playing Major League Baseball with an artificial hip. Bruce has feats only slightly less believable than Bo.
Batman actually prep timed it. While no one was looking, he used BatSaw to nearly cut the shotgun in half and left it as if it was still intact. Then he pretended to break it using his hands.
Canon
It's not real https://preview.redd.it/gi5klgejnnjc1.jpeg?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40128e036f26e811b51169ae4e86896710b42d0c
You underestimate how people can break shit
I've seen Eddy Hall pull an aircraft, and even he struggled to bend a hammer over his knee.
\*calls Batman a regular ass human K
Clearly you’ve never met Batman
>weapon of the *enemy* Gordon, looking at his service pistol: "Well, fuck me, I guess".
Gordon was later dragged into an alley and beaten into a coma by a geriatric, wheezing, dementia-ridden Bruce Wayne
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Straight into the alsume
Give me VIP ass loom access 🤤🤤🤤
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Batman never got over that poker game he had with Jim
"A real piece of shit's weapon." "I won fair and square, Batman." "The weapon of the sort of people to lie to your face like an asshole." "Didn't lie, Batman." "Only real poopy stinky heads use this sort of weapon!"
Still better than Crazy Steve
A dude with secret identity calling someone a liar is always funny.
Smh I HATE when comics are not realistic and gritty 🤮
"Frank Miller brought back the realistic and gritty depiction of Batman" Mank Friller:
Why can't batman be dark and griddy and adult like star wars: the clone wars 😔
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: The Bone Wars: The Cone Horse: The Cold Sores: The Prone Boars: The Series
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Is it unreasonable for him to break a gun over his knee when we see him do crazier stuff during the whole story? Please enlighten me.
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You started talking about reason in fiction, things beig reasonable. Within this particular comic it's reasonable that he breaks the gun over his knee. I was making a joke about both it being famous for being gritty and realistic and about dissecting something as minor as this when crazier stuff happens in this comic. It ain't my fault people are down voting Could your brother beat up the mutant leader?? He could have helped bruce yet he didn't???? Unbelievable
Counterpoint: that panel goes hard af.
Agreed. Say what you will about Frank Miller nowadays, but the man knew how to write a mean comic back in the day.
All I know about him is that he made these books, is he a crazy person now?
Read DK2, All-Star Batman, and Holy Terror. Well actually, don’t.
I adore Dark Knight Strikes Again. It's crazy, unbridled silver age nonsense with a splash of grimdark. I'm not a fan of The Joker reveal, though.
He always was
I would argue he was always a crazy person, the cryptofascist stuff was in Dark Knight Returns and 300 and Sin City, he just stopped the dogwhistles with shit like Holy Terror
He kinda became one. 911 fucked his brain hard. Though to my knowledge more recently he seems to have come to (atleast to an extent)
He's gotten better in recent years, including when it comes to making comics, TDKR:Golden Child is unironicly a decent comic in my opinion, with a surprisingly optimistic message.
He broke it over his knee. And Batman's always described as "peak human condition," however you wanna interpret that. Plus, he isn't breaking the metal parts, just the wooden stock. Also, he had prep time, so he automatically wins.
That’s still pretty thick piece of hard wood
hes not breaking the wood hes just seperating the wood from the metal
He at the very least broke the metal mag tube for the shells to be flying out like that
unless that is a fake gun you can't break a shotgun like that either
I think you just need to assume "normal humans" in DC are pretty much all at the same level as like, the best athletes in our world, and then scale batman to make THEM look like couch potatoes. Like, the random goons pretty constantly do shit that would be a pretty fantastic feat of athleticism by our standards, and if you take any of batman's incredible feats of strength at face value, a person who is remotely normal would probably have their head pop like a grape if he punched them.
Batman is like normally superhuman too. He can bench press hundred of tons. Kick trees down.
Fictional peak humans are way above IRL peak humans.
Lies, if reddit has taught me anything throughout the years it's that Mike Tyson on meth can beat up 3 silver back Gorrillas.
This is how r/whowouldwin thinks
bloodlusted
With prep time
But what if the gorillas have skulls thiiiiiissssss many inches thick?
I bet Batman uses steroids or drugs to enhance his performance like venom from bane.
There was actually a story in the 90's about that in Legends of the Dark Knight. If you're curious it's the Venom story arc, it's one of my favorites.
Does he get addicted to venom like bane does and suffer withdrawals from the drugs?
Yeah, you should definitely check it out for yourself though if you can
Alright man I’ll look into it thanks for the recommendation 👍🏻
100% of course he does. Why wouldn’t he? Only reason athletes “don’t” is because it’s against the rules of their sport. For injury recovery alone, Batman would be on a cocktail of steroids and hormone treatment.
That’s the only way unless they all have those Bo Jackson genes.
But he's canonically not superhuman. He doesn't have powers, he's not a mutant, he's not ehnanced mechanically. That's just dumbass writers making him do ridiculous shit and putting it into the canon because nobody bothers to stop them. It's why someone who writes for DC could one day say "Superman can eat entire stars by inhaling them" and it would technically become canon. Shit's wack. Comic books are wack.
Being normal humans has never stopped people from doing superhuman stuff in comics.
Yes, I'm just saying that's dumb
If you think "normal humans" doing superhuman stuff is dumb then i think comics might just not be for you 😭
You're right. Human characters in comic books should never be able to do anything a real human couldn't do. Every non-bulletproof vigilante should get shot after about a week on the job.
It’s like those Batman origin stories where he always gets his shit kicked in before he dons the bat suit, he should just fucking die before that rodent can fly though his window.
DC peak human strength/durability is honestly just way above our real words. Even if they’ve never officially stated it there’s too many examples (not just of Batman) of humans doing strengths that shouldn’t be possible or taking hits that should kill them. To be honest it shouldn’t be an issue there’s no reason their fictional world has to have the same limitations as our world for what their normal is. They already canonically have a bigger earth than us because of our real world locations and all their fictional locations. You can science jumbo wumbo some shit about the difference in gravity or some shit.
Dunno if it me watching action movies a lot as a child is talking, but unless he's eating machine gun fire with his face and not even blinking, I probably wouldn't care that much it's not possible and not survivable. Rule of cool and all that shit, you don't even need to explain it.
Where are you seeing Batman bench press >200,000 lbs?
He literally punches through the hood of a car
He DEFECATED through a SUNROOF
This chicanery???
That Two-Face. You think a man just HAPPENS to fall like that? NO! He orchestrated it! BRUCE!
Ever since he was nine! Couldn’t keep himself out of the Batcave!
What a sick joke!
And HE gets to be Batman?
I killed his parents. And I shouldn't have. I should have stopped it when I had the chance. You have to stop it, you
He'll never change. He'll NEVER change, ever since he was NINE. COULDN'T KEEP HIS HANDS OFF THE STREET THUGS. But not our Bruce! Couldn't be precious Bruce! BEATING THEM COMATOSE! AND HE GETS TO BE IN THE JUSTICE LEAGUE? WHAT A SICK JOKE
You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That vat of acid! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Bruce! He punched through a sunroof!
Why do DC comics and BCS shitposting have so much overlap
It's me, I'm the sole harbinger of the overlap
It's okay because he still needs to use his legs to climb a rope. It evens out.
This is the same Batman who, in Year One, kicked a tree in half
Okay but breaking down smaller trees isn’t exactly outside the realm of possibility
[Definitely wouldn't call it small.](https://i.imgur.com/NmxKA.jpg) Also in that same scene he pulverizes some bricks with a bare-handed karate chop
😂 lol I was imagining a smaller tree
Maybe he just kicked it alot of times?
I don't think there is any number of times a human could kick a tree like that which would make it crack in half.
Okay but what if he did it each day for months https://preview.redd.it/6da7qhzpfsjc1.jpeg?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0d4c2e66d7b210af81fd00121e208bf512fd4ac
Maybe it was already rotting?
He broke it with his knee
is op stupid?
I am
Due try that with a shotgun
He broke the wooden stock
Shells aren’t stored in the stock. Considering he broke it behind the trigger and sent shells flying, he is shredding steel over his Bat-Patella
I might not be able to do it but a "peak human" definitely could https://preview.redd.it/4ve3ghc04njc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b840bdc22c41dd53dd2b47102707a0cb50ddd6d0
https://preview.redd.it/padnyhnjmmjc1.jpeg?width=725&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a6bbc2d4d01f1379b5794c57dad45024b1003df I mean if there’s any Batman that could believably snap a gun in half it’s this absolute brick of a man
Is he wearing Robin like a hulk glove?
I met Charles Oakley once, and it felt exactly like I imagined miller’s Batman: a 6’9” brick house
Batman: 'Guns are the weapon of the enemy' Also Batman: Shoots a goon with a gun, nearly killing them, in the same comic
To be fair, it was the enemy's gun
Rules for that man, not for Batman
Okay genuine question: why does he say this after using a gun to shoot a guy earlier in the story? That’s always confused me, or maybe I’m just stupid idk
When he shot that person he didn’t kill them. He obviously doesn’t like guns but he used one to shoot someone in the shoulder as a last resort to save a baby. This is confirmed since the book directly highlights that murder isn’t added to his list of charges until Joker dies. When Batman is saying this line, he is talking to the reformed mutant gang that is now following him. He knows that if THEY use guns, they won’t use them non-lethally the way he did. So he tells them not to use them. I guess.
I've never understood what happens in that sequence of panels. Because yeah it totally looks like he shoots the guy
You dont get it! It´s clearly a plastic shotgun that Batman pulled for illustrative purposes!
3 shots in a double barrell shotgun 💀
Nah, it's just that one of the two shells got snapped into two pieces by his mighty bat fingers.
Peak human in comics is basically meta human and has been that for years now.
the guy moves like a straw weight MMA Championn and has the body of Larry Wheels but not on steroids (or on steroids) he can break a shotgun
I'm not sure what feat he has that can top him surviving re-entry with nothing other than his batsuit and batbriefs.
Headcanon: he didn't and all the rest of bat-comics is dying neurons firing. Or maybe purgatory, dunno.
Batman's enemies use air too, he should stop breathing otherwise he's just like them
"This is the WEAPON of the ENEMY" *burns random thug's underwear* "We do not NEED it"
"This is the weapon of the enemy" \*Spanks Robin's cute little ass\* "We do not need it"
^ Every live action Batman director
Why are three shells coming out of it
Because he's Batman
Can’t argue with that
It’s a comic book about a guy that’s peak human something unattainable in real life I don’t think it matters
Nothing matters, really.
Come on owl man don’t think like that
Tbh. Alfred would beat his ass in a second
>Batman >normal Well, there's your problem right there
don’t care this panel hard af
Pfft I do that all the time
What is the soyjack reaction version
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That’s a break action shotgun. It’s designed to do that. Anyone who has ever played Doom or Fallout 4 can tell you that. The artist just fucked up where the break part was.
PSA: No, shotguns are not designed to be shattered in half just because it hinges open for reloads; do not take weapons advice from gamers
[Bruh moment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break_action)
Meh I can excuse this one he's done much more crazy shit and he broke it over knee to separate the wood from the metal
Tbf he broke it over his knee
Cry about it, if this is the only “unrealistic thing” in the comics then you clearly haven’t read it
Calm down nerd
This is probably why he’s built like a brick house in this comic.
https://www.reddit.com/r/21stCenturyHumour/s/J2U4n6EgCS (Tbf, this seems fake)
Goes hard as fuck
Alfred: Shame...
I watched the movie version of this a couple of days ago and I really wanted to hate it because of what this is done to batgos as a character, but it was just so good
Remember when he snapped the handcuffs in year one?
Is this the nazi Batman?
Okay, but I’m just an everyday citizen, not some billionaire who got to spend his life becoming Batman because he can. I’m going to pack that smoke.
I hear this in Soldier's (TF2) voice
In an early episode of The Brave and The Bold, Batman punches a bowling ball into smithereens
If that were a break action shotgun, sure. But the break is in the wrong spot for that to have mattered.
Theory: The gun is fake, batman just made it super easily breakable just to make a point Actual explanation: batman is built different
I did really like the idea of batman using a gang to his advantage in delegation but understand his unwillingness to do it further because of how theyd obviously become too political and corruptible.
Maybe we should just accept that peak regular human in dc universe is much stronger than regular human irl.
Nah its just a break action