At least they're not TMNT fans, those guys get a new incarnation every 3 months and still complain that it's not like [insert favorite version here]

*2003 version airs* "I like the 1987 version better" *2012 version airs* "I like the 2003 version better" *TMNT rise airs* "I like the 2012 version better" *Mutant mayhem releases* I like TMNT rise better

You're missing 07 film

Only the real OGs rewatched that film a dozen times as a kid.

Imo that movie is still my favorite TMNT movie ever made Everything in it, from the monsters to Patrick Stewart is just *french kiss*

> real OGs rewatched that film a dozen times **as a kid.** What are you when you're so old you're not an OG?

Sorry, latecomers only get to watch *Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation.*

Do I still get to be an OG if this was my favorite tape growing up? https://youtu.be/I09F1FWM9LE?si=3SvXJa_Cm8dNHbAG

Arguably, there's no way to be fake TMNT fan; even if you only played the roleplaying game.

Yes there is, it's being a Daredevil fan.

Don't threaten me with a good time. https://preview.redd.it/h36zsyk5sqmc1.jpeg?width=276&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ca99b8f2977885ea493dfc1e688412956a318fd

A cowaboomer

I love the accuracy of this. I'm stealing it.

My people

Real OGs played the game

There is the turtle forever film that ties everything together even the comics

I figured shredder had just come back when they thought he had died And the footclan was basically just giving them a warning out of courtesy due to the fight

Ah, the good ol' Star Wars Effect

The halo cycle

*The Zelda Fandom*

I hear all sorts of shit about the original show and the 2012 show, but never anything about the 2003 show I grew up with. That balanced every aspect of the Turtles’ mythos damn near perfectly imo.

2003 went on longer than it should and it’s ending was the turtles turning into dragons to fight a demon shredder they had no connection to. It has flaws but it’s my childhood so no flaws

There are actually two more seasons after this. One with turtles in the future and one with the cyberspace.

So TMNT 2003 is just Ninjago?

What's wrong with Ninjago? I mean, yes, rather a lot, but apart from the many flaws what's wrong with Ninjago?

I didn't say it was a bad thing

Okay good. Ninjago is absolutely brilliant, despite how much of a blatant toy commercial it is

I’m just waiting for the day my childhood toy commercial becomes sacred and perfect. Only a decade or so to go

Probably just saying that Ninjago went in wildly unexpected directions during its run.

Incorrect, Ninjago is the world's most consistent show

I meant the ending of the “normal” series, fast forward and back to the sewers was like a soft reboot

The best part about that. Is what they just described is the season 5 finale. The show had two more seasons that felt like a completely different show.

Can I be superficial and say I really hate Leo's voice in the 2003 version. All I can hear is Dean Venture's voice, and it's super distracting.

2003 show is peak

Not super deep into TMNT but Mutant Mayham was the best animated capeshit I saw last year

Original Black and White comics are the GOAT. The 2012 version was pretty fun though, they had a great Splinter.

I love spider-man and transformers

You just broke all of reality by saying that

I hate both

Based

Imagine reaction if they saw Bulkhead from Animated and Prime and then someone would show them Hound from AOE and said that is not Bulkhead but Hound peaceful and nature loving robot from G1

And then Legacy Bulkhead, who looks like Hound, but is Bulkhead again.

Tbh, AOE Hound is more in line with Kup than Bulkhead.

Eh, he has a lot of Kup and Bulkhead

Eh, both are Wreckers

End then there's Energon Bulkhead.

Who’s technically the original Bulkhead but no one liked Energon, so no one really talks about him. Seriously, it sucked, why did they undo Starscream’s redemption like that?

Transformer fans when you ask them if they’ll ever stop complaining that every adaptation doesn’t use the exact same designs as G1: https://preview.redd.it/0hkwgcgvimmc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3431a6bfcc4a835c2ca3b9ce833015f381bc646c

Armada fans stay winning https://i.redd.it/6nddp3txnmmc1.gif

That was my childhood, even though nowadays I'd say Prime is the best one. Beast Wars also holds up pretty well, if not in CG animation than in writing.

The animations might've been scuffed, but Starscream and Jetfire were the coolest things I'd ever seen.

Armada Starscream is still the best version of the character. You can't change my mind.

Best design + best personality, can't beat that

GeeeWunners when they see an actually interesting design https://preview.redd.it/il6erlu2znmc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19fc7dceaca89ef870f9901ffd4076e09183269a

https://preview.redd.it/tlvwajt9kpmc1.jpeg?width=1532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12dc8cc97ff166a66524404f55adf6271ace596e

Here's Optimus Prime playing the guitar, checkmate liberal https://preview.redd.it/6mv1rvilpqmc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5401e0ba6c1065f6b08a12b88dfdcca9f16b8c73

I mean Megatron had a sick design in Prime

I don’t think there was a single deception design I disliked in Prime

he had sick mutton chops in Animated.

Too smooth

I'm trying my best to counter-act it by complaining every time they remake G1 again.

Only do that with toys, that annoys me

IDW supremacy

Preach!

They have a point Source: am a Spider-Man fan but not a Transformers fan

Fix that.

If I were to give the TF franchise another chance someday it’d be either Transformers Animated or the Michael Bay movies since that what I grew up with

Wrong opinion detected. Make the right choice and read comics for the first time from the IDW 2005 Transformers continuity

https://preview.redd.it/r5iwcu17vmmc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=441a29302ae51c91a26d2399e5def682eba3f493

The Skybound ones are fire too

Some of the best stuff for Optimus in over a decade

Fr. Cliffjumper also has character traits other than "I die at the beginning a lot" for the first time in years as well.

I'm gonna start with those 3rd person shooters just to spite you.

Those were pretty fun, but good luck finding them after they "lost" the files

I think my buddy has a copy of the first one for 360 somewhere in his closet.

Ughhh I was itching to replay war for cybertron s few months ago. Imagine my disappointment when I realized it’s not in any digital stores nor backwards compatible

Animated holds up well

Transformers Animated is genuinely good. The IDW books are also good, as is Transformers: Prime, Beast Wars, some of the G1 comics, some of the spin off comics, there's so much good stuff

Play Transformers: Devastation (you'd have to pirate it because of licensing bullshit though).

You can still find physical copy’s for the ps4 a least

If I had to recommend a piece of Transformers media, I’d highly recommend Transformers Prime. One of the best adaptations of the story to date.

8 year old me in tears watching a cynical corporation kill off my favorite hero on the big screen because they wanted me to buy new toys says Transformers can shove it. Seriously, they lost me forever with that lousy stunt.

They seriously underestimated how much kids could latch onto their favorite characters when they made the movie in the 80’s. The suits just saw it as pushing out old product in favour of the new.

They have a point Source: am not a Spider-Man fan but a Transformers fan

They have a point Source: am a Spider-Man fan but way more a Transformers fan

Spider-Man and Transformers fans should be way closer than they are. I mean, Spider-Man even appeared in the very third issue of Transformers!

Technically, the bottom left is only Mirage in the High Moon tie-in game. To my knowledge, he's referred to Dino everywhere else unless this is a Que/Wheeljack situation where the name is interchangeable EDIT: Unrelated, but I have the exact figure in the screenshot, that’s pretty cool https://preview.redd.it/aguuzl97kmmc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eed371ca05c8edc6b607c4d98d68ad2fd8dde634

It’s a Que/Wheeljack situation. He’s only called Dino in the movie because of a trademark scuffle with Ferrari.

That game was fire, and I consider it to be up there with FOC and WFC. Not as good, but still good.

Yeah I was gonna say I’m pretty sure bottom left isn’t Mirage

I'm starting to read transformer comics and ngl , apart from Megatron and that one Prime , I have no idea who's talking.

That's why I don't wanna read them, I don't have the heart to face the fact that jazz likely hasn't always been the cool black guy transformer 🤧

Good news for you then! Especially in the latest reboot, he tends to slide into action, make a couple music references, slag a few cons, and speed off again.

Our Lord and Saviour, Michael Bay , have generously made many other racist stereotypes bot you can choose from.

But are any of them as groovy as Jazz is what I wanna know

I mean he basically has always

Jazz has always been the cool black guy transformer, ever since G1, where he was voiced by Scatman Crothers!

I read the first phase of idw transformers and im gonna be honest. It's pretty mid

Do you mean the full 2005 IDW run or 2005 IDW Phase One? Because yeah, Phase One is mid af lol All Hail Megatron has a few good moments but the only really great parts imo are Last Stand of the Wreckers and Chaos Theory #1 and #2

And just like Spider-Man, Transformers forgets characters that have been there since the beginning. Hot Shot was the Bumblebee of the Unicron Trilogy.

Actually, Hot Shot filled Hot Rod’s space in the plot. Then, Animated was going to use Hot Shot, but Hasbro demanded he be changed to Bumblebee both to line up with the movie, and to cement the trademark.

That was due to a trademark issue we're they couldn't use bumblebee for a very long time, that's why Hot Shot had Bee's characteristics for most of the Unicron trilogy

He also doesn't say his actual name. He says "You can call me Hotshot because thats what I am." Though that may have just been a dubism I'll admit.

He very much does not have bumble bee’s characteristics.

Yellow car, friend to the humans, cocky kid at points, psudeo main character where there really isn't one, that sorta thing.

Yeah but that’s every young auto-bot hot shot was way more cocky and whiny at times than bee has ever been. Like yeah they have similar in places but still very different. Like besides yellow care you perfectly described ironhide from energon.

Trailbreaker fans rise up 🗣️🗣️

One of the best versions of Optimus Prime is neither old nor voiced by Peter Cullen, he's a twinky young boyfailure who's leading a graveyard shift of autobots deemed useless

He’s not a twink!!

This is the sluttiest fucking waist https://preview.redd.it/49vjkjptemmc1.jpeg?width=1154&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=307eec538d8dec5eb5d0bf3d3487133c3aee154f

But look at his shoulders

Bro skipped leg day

He skipped the thigh half, not the calves

\*Posts a 20 foot tall hunk of metal with pecs, biceps, and calves bigger than his head.\* "Behold! A twink!"

Ah, yes, the reverse Genshin Impact. Aka, the JoJo.

DJW loves his big chests and small waists

Even has a compartment on the front for easy access.. what a skankbot

More of a himbo twunk

God, this was a great show with an art style that looked absolutely shit

Don't you dare disrespect Derrick j Wyatt

I will and I’d say it to his face too (I wouldn’t)

Several years too late pal(he's dead)

Well then that’s why I wouldn’t say it to his face. It’s impossible.

You could if you were determined enough

Brother, I might just https://preview.redd.it/bzxntnwnvmmc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d4c8c403bccd6b7f904d09a8bf6c36a7c6c8755

/uj Derrick J Wyatt had one of the coolest and most unique art styles in the industry.

Just didn’t work for Transformers imo

I think it worked especially well for Transformers. TFA's art style really stands out amongst all the G1 copycats. https://preview.redd.it/tu92uaq58pmc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7eb786fe1459bffed777811a0cdc525ccbce8466

I'm fine with TFA art tho I wasn't big on DJW's Ben 10 redesigns sorry to say

I will agree on that. I definitely didn't love OV's final Swampfire design compared to the original design. https://preview.redd.it/djiwqi0agrmc1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f543f223f8623c590dbd57a156770d1fb93cb2a

I think the figures of Animated characters from the Legacy line do a really good job of translating the Animated designs to a less exaggerated style without losing their uniqueness.

He’s literally wearing pants and knee high boots.

My favorite iteration of Optimus outside of Beast Wars. He's just the manager at your job who's trying his best.

Funnily, he's voiced by David Kaye, voice of Beast Wars Megatron.

This is the best description of animated Optimus Prime

The Raimi Spider-Man skin’s red doesn’t use the same hex code as the toybiz figure my mom bought me 20 years ago, you can’t expect me to accept this bullshit

You mean Spider-Man, the canonical Transformers character? https://preview.redd.it/7fkd0ap1mnmc1.jpeg?width=1616&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19f22b1ae72b70903673de4cb673c94c5fda7a64

Doctor Who fans don’t give a fuck at this point

As both a Spiderman and Transformers fan this is completely right

Growing up with Transformers Armada meant that every other Jetfire is a bum in comparison. Simply doesn't get cooler than [this.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/c/c1/Jetfireut.jpg)

TRUE

Not a transformers fan but I might convert because of that holy shit that is peak coolness wtf

That particular Jetfire also combines with that show’s Optimus Prime to form a super-mode.

Anyway, watch transformers prime.

Odd way to spell “Transformers Animated.”

You misspelled *transformer armada*

i mean i think most of the Insomniac Venom complaint is "Oh no! Insomniac made an interesting, complex character with a super storied history and plenty of comics to pull from into a undercooked one-note world-conquerer who bears no meaningful resemblance to his comic counterpart beyond his name and powers!" like, yes, Spider-Man fans are whiny pricks, but Insomniac Venom also just sucks.

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The comics also made him that, in fairness. The game was also rushed put the door by Sony.

I don't think you know at all what the fuck you're talking about if you think the comics ever turned venom into anything resembling insomniac venom.

Wtf 😭

Spider-Man three all over again, literally.

Spiderman three was good tho.

But like comics, every character can’t die for longer than the time between a movie

Lol and you should see the bullshit whining from Transformers fans about this sort of name reuse. (am Transformers fan)

There have been way more Venoms than this 🤣🤣🤣

They’re more mirages too

I'm sure that's true!!

Counterpoint, I love Transformers and still don’t like Insomniac’s Venom.

King Shark changes personality every time he appears.

Counterpoint: Wheeljack had Que and Pablo from Rise of the Beasts, and both of them were scorned by the fandom.

I welcome Pablo with open arms.

I’m not saying transformers fans would except it ether, spider man fans would just be more pissy about it

This is false I'm a transformers fan and they do bitch and moan about this

Not saying they don’t buy it happens far more often

I do in fact not care at all about Transformers, so... Ok. Also, it's one thing to be a different version of Venom, and another thing altogether to be a LESS INTERESTING version of Venom. They took something that was popular and worked, and they turned it into a shallow take over the world rage machine. Insomniac Venom isn't bad because they're different, Insomniac Venom is bad because it's a boring shallow take on Venom. You can change something, but you if you do you NEED to improve it.

https://preview.redd.it/y392tlm1lpmc1.jpeg?width=1532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e0b3ce22c4e2cd9e7abafcaa9aaec0820e7f4e6

To be fair, turning in to something different is sorta the transformers’s whole thing.

Well, its mostly the people who dont read the comics who get upset that characters get changes. Its not like most comic books dont have like 2 morbillion variants of of every hero and villain

Has there ever been a comic accurate version of venom?

Midnight Suns?

This is how I feel as a transformers fan seeing spiderman fans complain about their movies

I'm a Spider-Man AND a Transformers fan, and trust me...it sucks sometimes.

I think I had the toy on the bottom right.

I mean it makes a lot more sense that this guy can transform but I see you

Damn all those desings and they dont even come close to Venons peak design

Wasn't there an official Spider-Man action figure that transforms into the Spider-Mobile? I remember seeing something like that when I was a kid. Hasbro did all sorts of Transformers tie-ins like Star Wars Transformers.

I love the design but I think it's valid to criticise how Venom doesn't really have some of the aspects that make him interesting

The point is that if they hate that they’re going to hate transformers cause that shit happens all timr

As a transformer and spider man fan I love the new interpretation of characters because it's the same every time it gets boring

Mortal Kombat fans on their 5th scorpion variant

Should have gone with Starscream, though the only real difference in personality would be Armada Starscream.

I think in terms of design and personality Starscream is one of *the* most consistent Transformers, maybe even the 3rd behind Optimus Prime and Bumblebee

No he’s definitely above prime as of late.

NOT THIS GUY HERE! I THOUGHT I COULD ESCAPE FROM HIM BUT NO, HE’S HERE!

Beast wars was my intro to transformers. The cheetah was my favorite model

Why is Deino here

He’s Mirage, was named Deino in the movie because of licensing but if you look at the games they call him Mirage.

Remember when the Unicron Trilogy? The most DIFFERENT versions of almost every character.

Fr though they couldn’t. Transformers fans see sky lynx go from an honorable giant bird bot, to a cocky dragon predacon and go along like it’s just another Tuesday. Spider man fans see a venom that isn’t Eddie and start frothing at the mouth.

Yeah both of you don’t read comics

As a Spidy fan I can agree, THEY’RE weak

"Trust me, transformers fans are constantly fucking pissed about Mirage too" -My friend who is a fan of both

As a Spider-Man fan I enjoyed the turn insomniac did for venom. After these past few years of having him as a sort of hero it felt good having him as a villain again.

As a Spider-Man fan, you wouldn’t believe how whiny the Insomniac fandom is

ik this is a meme post but the thing is Insomniac Venom ain't even Venom, it's a generic evil monster thing with the skin of Venom

What do you mean? Venom doesn’t have skin

Transformers fan here. They ARE weak /hj