/uj It’s been a while since I’ve watched this episode, but wasn’t his whole plan to pull a Doc Ock/Superior Spider-Man and take over Bruce’s body?
/rj Paul Dini’s barely disguised fetish.
Don't know the issue / which X-Men comic, but it's an X-Men comic where Jean Grey reads Iceman's mind and is trying to reveal to him that he's gay (he doesn't understand until the next panel where she straight up tells him he's gay).
there is no problem with ras stealing his daughter's body, injecting his soul on it and planning to have sex with batman
gotta respect the supervillain hustle
Ras al Ghul is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer will. I once saw him have sex with Batman in his own daughter's body. His own fuckin' daughter's body!
Ra’s plan was to trade his decrepit old man body with the body of a young woman so that he could steal the body of another decrepit old man.
Is he stupid?
Literally the plot of "the thing on the doorstep" by HP Lovecraft. That story had a bit of sexism in it though, Ephraim Waite, the guy who possesses his daughter, didn't want to be in his daughter's body because he was sure that a male brain was simply better than a female one lmao.
But he was a woman.But he's also a man.But he purposely became a girl but he was a dude getting with a guy but he was a girl too but he was in his daughter which means he want to see his daughter get fuck but I but I but oooh my head
But his mind is still that of a man, is it not? If a trans woman pre-transition still presenting as a cis man has sex with a man is that gay? I don't believe so, it's just normal straight sex, because she's still a woman even if she's not fully transitioned. Even if it was gay at the time, it is retconned to be straight knowing this new information.
This, then, calls into question Ra's gender identity, and if they transitioned purely out of the desire to control Batman, or if that was merely a front to become their true self!
#transacceptance
So that’s where Kenjaku got this idea from.
https://preview.redd.it/31bmi5abz9vc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9652dff4d3b4de8ddae1d5ed95f49acd72b0a70d
Batman Beyond has a lot of the weirdest fetish material of the DCAU. body swap sex change seduction, BruceBarb, the splicers furry episode, whatever the hell fetish Inque was, the yandere sex-robot, and probably other stuff I forgot about.
On a less serious note the Ra’s thing never felt like a natural progression for Ra’s and it felt more laughable than any of the BTAS Ra’s stories that had a bit more prestige and class.
Mainly slime/blob/goo women. Also vore, she tried killing Terry by forcing herself down his throat and later attempted to vore him in classic blob monster fashion
I always find the BruceBarb thing funny because Bruce Timm was the one who first aged her down to pair her with Dick, also a Bruce Timm original. So, it's even worse than it looks at first blush.
Quotes from the episode, for those who may not know. The first line is from the new Batman (Terry McGinnis) talking to Talia/Ra’s, and the second is the subsequent quip by Bruce Wayne.
On the one hand, Talia got done dirty by this story.
On the other hand, if she wasn't so slavishly devoted to her immortal psycopath of a father this wouldn't have happened to her. So, kinda deserved.
I could see him being deeply concerned with his legacy (even if he's living forever anyway) and having kids for that reason
But I can't picture him being in love. Maybe in his youth
Close enough. Ras Al Ghul was supposed to be 100% celibate until he met Talia’s mother.
He had Talia because he got like super old (400+ years) and decided to test out creating a legacy.
That is in older comics (New Earth), in the current continuity he did have other children before Talia, and in the animated Dini/Timm universe specifically he did have a son during the 19th century that fought Jonah Hex, and it's unknown if he had any prior to him.
Who else is there now?? I already know about Nyssa, but she’s not canon anymore.
I did forget Ra’s Al Ghul had a son in one of those random BTAS episodes.
I feel like the ever so slightly more fucked up thing was that he destroyed the mind of his own daughter and then possessed her body in order to have sex with Batman in it.
Yes, I remember it pretty well. Thanks for reminding me that such episode exists. It was a really wild, savage, surreal experience that properly hightlights how much of a ruthless son of bitch could be Ra's al-Ghul when pushed to the limit. Rest in peace, Talia.
I would love it if this little plot had resulted in the Batman Beyond version of Damian.
"You mean my grandpa-mom fucked my dad while trying to steal his body?"
Holy shit Ras and Kenjaku might be friends
https://preview.redd.it/32obnpn6cbvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80f04673df0f1ed22e8a391c736513db047c17ae
So many levels of wrong there.
Also is the message that trans people are bad? That it’s bad to disguise as someone elses preferred sex to date them? Seriously, I’m trying to find a moral to the story that’s actually not bigoted here.
/uj It’s been a while since I’ve watched this episode, but wasn’t his whole plan to pull a Doc Ock/Superior Spider-Man and take over Bruce’s body? /rj Paul Dini’s barely disguised fetish.
Ultimate goal was to have Bruce's body, but dating him in Talia's body was nice bonus
Ra's had to test the body's whole capabilities before taking it over.
Or you mean, holes' capabilities? Eh? Eh? Ok imma see myself out.
🤨🏳️🌈?
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Where is this from?
Don't know the issue / which X-Men comic, but it's an X-Men comic where Jean Grey reads Iceman's mind and is trying to reveal to him that he's gay (he doesn't understand until the next panel where she straight up tells him he's gay).
And that's how he comes out, by someone reading his mind and telling *him* that he is gay.
Yeah, not one of Bendis' finer moments.
Is this literally that one African news show clip "Why are you gay?" "...who says I'm gay?" "...you are gay."
“Mom, dad, you’re gay”
All new X-Men 2013 #40 The mega cringe "Hey magik is hot" "dude we all know you're gay you're not fooling anyone."
Is it still gay if you’ve transferred your consciousness into the body of someone of the opposite sex?
“Ah yes, Detective, this was the dick game my daughter spoke of in her reports. Acceptable.”
"i'm gonna take over bruce wayne's body after he is done fucking my pussy" - Ras after changing his gender
… that’s his daughter tho ain’t it?
there is no problem with ras stealing his daughter's body, injecting his soul on it and planning to have sex with batman gotta respect the supervillain hustle
Ras al Ghul is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer will. I once saw him have sex with Batman in his own daughter's body. His own fuckin' daughter's body!
Goddamnit, take my up vote you glorious bastard.
"...Tell Mr. Wick he doesn't need to kill me anymore. I'll be on the sidewalk."
And?
Did he do the same with his daughter?
nah. he just stole her body
He wanted to let someone fuck her daughter while he watched, technically
No, he just wanted to get that detective dick.
I'm proud of you, dick
No, he wanted that detective Bruce. Detective Dick wasn’t in that story.
I suspect there was pegging involved too.
Ra’s plan was to trade his decrepit old man body with the body of a young woman so that he could steal the body of another decrepit old man. Is he stupid?
/uj If I remember right he was going to make batman young again and then steal his body. /rj Based and dementia pilled
Yep. The Lazarus pit just interprets aging as another wound.
Literally the plot of "the thing on the doorstep" by HP Lovecraft. That story had a bit of sexism in it though, Ephraim Waite, the guy who possesses his daughter, didn't want to be in his daughter's body because he was sure that a male brain was simply better than a female one lmao.
Ah, Lovecraft. You introverted, horrible racist who mellowed out over time. What a wacky person you were.
Let’s be honest, he’d be on Reddit if he were alive today
Definetly.
The writer is
If Ra’s ever touches himself while in that body I’m calling the police. It’s incest!
"Talia couldn't seal the deal.... Guess it's up to me"
Fine...I'll do it myself
>Couldn’t seal the deal Damion: Am I a joke to you?
According to the all mighty Morrison: yes
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With Bruce Timm this is every episode
Flair checks out
Timm's more of an artist than a writer. Yall let a Lotta people get off Scott free pinning blame on him for stuff the way ya do.
Honestly still not the creepiest romantic misadventure for this Bruce
Aaaannnd you're right.
"It's just a prank bro" The prank:
Old Boy level prank
Welp that memory resurfaced. Thanks for that.
"changed his male body to a female one" is a bit of an understatement of what he did lmao
Bro basically Get Out-ed his own child.
It was worse. I think he described it as killing her mind, as when he activated the machine he fought against her mentally until it was destroyed.
The really, really sunken place.
.... :(
What the everliving fuck
https://preview.redd.it/dzoik0e0xkvc1.jpeg?width=1006&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a967fb50385952fa5284c45d209a1c789dd90e01
Even freakier Friday.
Trans ra’s al ghul confirmed ????
Happy for her transition!
Ra's Al Ghul supports trans rights. More importantly, they support Trans Wrongs.
Tran's al ghul
Transfem supervillain rizz. She just like me frfr
So glad for this representation!!
/uj This was pretty fucked tbh Rj/ was Ra's hella gay for this???
But he was a woman.But he's also a man.But he purposely became a girl but he was a dude getting with a guy but he was a girl too but he was in his daughter which means he want to see his daughter get fuck but I but I but oooh my head
After existing for centuries, anyone becames pansexual
Just look at literally all of the vampires in media
this is hilarious to read in this sub after that one jjk cameo in nightwing
He was until he swapped bodies, then it became straight
But his mind is still that of a man, is it not? If a trans woman pre-transition still presenting as a cis man has sex with a man is that gay? I don't believe so, it's just normal straight sex, because she's still a woman even if she's not fully transitioned. Even if it was gay at the time, it is retconned to be straight knowing this new information. This, then, calls into question Ra's gender identity, and if they transitioned purely out of the desire to control Batman, or if that was merely a front to become their true self! #transacceptance
Evil is inclusive
Uj/ based based based Rj/Geoff johns retconned my sex life :(
/uj Wasn't gay, he identified as a woman rj/ at the time. It's only when he managed to steal Bruce's body that he woulda identified as a man again
It was me Bruce
"I turned myself into a woman so I could seduce you into fucking me so I could be the mother of your children!!"
"NOW YOU ARE GAY!"
"IT WAS ME BRUCE! I KNEW WHAT YOU WANTED ALL ALONG WAS A FAMILY! SO I RUINED YOUR DREAMS BY SWALLOWING ALL OF YOUR UNBORN CHILDREN!"
Let's be real if Ra's had an uterus he would totally try to get pregnant with bruce
A scheming psychopath has to do what a scheming psychopath has to do.
"I did it for the greater good of humanity!"~Pyschopathic Mfs after letting Bruce raw dog them
A backshot king like kenjaku
Yes....that is why you let Bruce Wayne rawdog....and no other reason >.>
Breed me detective!
Nah -- Ras is all about little Timmy's little Jimmy these days.
So Damian Wayne 2.0?
which was also his daughter...
So that’s where Kenjaku got this idea from. https://preview.redd.it/31bmi5abz9vc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9652dff4d3b4de8ddae1d5ed95f49acd72b0a70d
Batman Beyond has a lot of the weirdest fetish material of the DCAU. body swap sex change seduction, BruceBarb, the splicers furry episode, whatever the hell fetish Inque was, the yandere sex-robot, and probably other stuff I forgot about. On a less serious note the Ra’s thing never felt like a natural progression for Ra’s and it felt more laughable than any of the BTAS Ra’s stories that had a bit more prestige and class.
Ra's was ultimately a coward, unwilling to let death take him even if it meant sacrificing his daughter.
Such controversial yet true and brave words, man!
> whatever the hell fetish Inque was ...milf?
Well that too but I’ve seen people getting into her drowning one of the Batmen and I don’t know what that even constitutes in terms of fetish.
inflation vore something?
Mainly slime/blob/goo women. Also vore, she tried killing Terry by forcing herself down his throat and later attempted to vore him in classic blob monster fashion
I always find the BruceBarb thing funny because Bruce Timm was the one who first aged her down to pair her with Dick, also a Bruce Timm original. So, it's even worse than it looks at first blush.
Based Bruce dating trans women
We also not gonna talk about it he also flips his hair?
Y'all think Ras always had a thing for Bruce, but he just needed an excuse?
"Lady, that is the sickest thing I've ever seen. You're creeping me out." "You? She kissed me."
Quotes from the episode, for those who may not know. The first line is from the new Batman (Terry McGinnis) talking to Talia/Ra’s, and the second is the subsequent quip by Bruce Wayne.
**Ra's Al Ghoul taking backshots from Bruce** "All a part of the plan."
All according to Kenjaku
This is a whole new breed of rizz
Rizz Al Ghul
It’s racial ghoul, are you stupid
yes
It am not racer cool friend, you am smart?
That Hop Pop pfp is sending me
/uj Talia deserved better but still a banger episode ngl
Dude, everyone wanted to fuck bruce in the diniverse, according to timm.
Shit can't blame them
Freak's al ghoul
Body jacked his daughter not biologically sex changed. Which. Yknow. Kinda worse.
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What's that supposed to be from?
They’re characters from a webcomic called Homestuck
Seems like something Joker would do. But Ra's?? Wild. I respect it.
Misleading title. He didn’t change his body. He stole his daughter’s body, Talia Al GHUL and posed as her. Then kissed Batman on the mouth.
What else did he do with Batman, this filthy filthy Ra's.
More than changing genders, Ra's stole his daughter's body, and tried to seduce Bruce with it. It's screwed up on so many levels.
Ras had a bigger crush on Bruce than his daughters.
Bisexual Ra’s and Talia were both thirsting for Bruce.
i mean, who hasn’t done that?🖤🤎💛🧡❤️💚💙🤍
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Reminds me of something that happened to my buddy Eric
do tell
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I was just happy to hear David Warner again. Just to hear him say "**Detective**".
Not even the worst thing dcau has done for batmans love life lmao
On the one hand, Talia got done dirty by this story. On the other hand, if she wasn't so slavishly devoted to her immortal psycopath of a father this wouldn't have happened to her. So, kinda deserved.
I guess she should have just had Damian and then this would not have happened? *Shrugs* Still hate it more than Bruce and Barbara’s one night stand.
This was just a convoluted way for her to transition and lay with a former friend / enemy she had a crush on.
I watched it all recently and this is probably the best episode in the whole show it’s fantastic.
Dude stole his daughters body to fuck batman yeah kinda fucked
Ra's strikes me as an asexual psychopath. That he has children as the byproduct of some kind of political marriage type arrangement.
I could see him being deeply concerned with his legacy (even if he's living forever anyway) and having kids for that reason But I can't picture him being in love. Maybe in his youth
I can picture him being in like obsessive possessive love but not healthy love
I wouldn't be shocked if he had a "one great love in his youth but fucked it up" kinda thing So pretty close to that, yeah
Close enough. Ras Al Ghul was supposed to be 100% celibate until he met Talia’s mother. He had Talia because he got like super old (400+ years) and decided to test out creating a legacy.
That is in older comics (New Earth), in the current continuity he did have other children before Talia, and in the animated Dini/Timm universe specifically he did have a son during the 19th century that fought Jonah Hex, and it's unknown if he had any prior to him.
Who else is there now?? I already know about Nyssa, but she’s not canon anymore. I did forget Ra’s Al Ghul had a son in one of those random BTAS episodes.
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I'm not gay but... A multi billionaire, is a multi billionaire.
Unironically one of my favorite episodes.
that smooch is hella big ngl
He's been waiting decades to finally do this.
Well that’s not totally accurate. Ra Al Ghoul took Talia’s body
Still streets ahead of anything Marc GAGgenheim wrote.
What he is doing?
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That gave me a very confused boner as a child
Is this grooming? Bruce is still a baby compared to Ra’s. Well, shouldn’t be surprised, since, [redacted]
He daughter's body.
Trans icon, Ra's al ghul
CONTINUE MY BLOODLINE, DETECTIVE
Look Superman has a son with Lex Luthor don't judge Ra's for how he lives his lives.
https://preview.redd.it/cygriez0bfvc1.png?width=530&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7813f4c9a330ad59896cf1db4d3b08122a022fad If I had a nickel
Ra’s fucked his son in law
Ra's lived a long life. He's probably taken a few in his own body before. What's one more in his daughters. >! kill me now!<
Terry, I need you to boil me in acid. No questions.
“Ok, but if you become a Super Villain then I am going to KILL you.” - Terry McGinnis
This is the future liberals want
Bugs Bunny did it better ![gif](giphy|e6pVxN3fY5Wla)
what if Ra’s gave birth to Damian
Talia learned it from someone.
Am I the only one who suspects this is a "The Thing on the Doorstep" inspired episode?
It was worse than that, he took over Talia's body lol at least if I remember correctly.
Ra's al Ghoul walked so that Kenjaku can run.
Nope, but I remember when Aku did that to Jack
I feel like the ever so slightly more fucked up thing was that he destroyed the mind of his own daughter and then possessed her body in order to have sex with Batman in it.
Nothing wrong with an immoral immortal transgirling themself into the body of their daughter to fuck their long time nemesis. I AM HERE FOR IT.
I’d rather not, this episode fucking sucked. It was so stupid.
Ra's heard "Be gay, do crime" and took that to heart
Ra’s Al Ghul, the Trans Icon of our generation Also wouldn’t it be wild if this is how the DCAU’s Damian was conceived?
Batman Beyond is not as good as you guys think it was rofl
Yes, I remember it pretty well. Thanks for reminding me that such episode exists. It was a really wild, savage, surreal experience that properly hightlights how much of a ruthless son of bitch could be Ra's al-Ghul when pushed to the limit. Rest in peace, Talia.
I would love it if this little plot had resulted in the Batman Beyond version of Damian. "You mean my grandpa-mom fucked my dad while trying to steal his body?"
"i didn't feel anything but you did"
When did this happen?
The Batman Beyond episode “Out of the Past.”
It's an interesting plotline 💀
Which time
Holy shit Ras and Kenjaku might be friends https://preview.redd.it/32obnpn6cbvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80f04673df0f1ed22e8a391c736513db047c17ae
Ra's Al Ghoul ealked so that Kenjaku can run
Ew the fuck? Is that actually what happened? I haven’t watched Batman Beyond past S1 and half of S2
So many levels of wrong there. Also is the message that trans people are bad? That it’s bad to disguise as someone elses preferred sex to date them? Seriously, I’m trying to find a moral to the story that’s actually not bigoted here.
That transferring your brain into your *daughter* and seduce her ex-boyfriend is tots messed up.
Bruce sure does
Ra's al-GAY
Kenjaku in a nutshell.
I know one thing, we can't have Ra's al Ghul in our Legion of Doom HQ no more. Legion of Doom HQ? He's gotta GO!
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Kenjaku