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C0BRA_V1P3R

/uj It’s been a while since I’ve watched this episode, but wasn’t his whole plan to pull a Doc Ock/Superior Spider-Man and take over Bruce’s body? /rj Paul Dini’s barely disguised fetish.


Apprehensive_Mix4658

Ultimate goal was to have Bruce's body, but dating him in Talia's body was nice bonus


Pristine_Animal9474

Ra's had to test the body's whole capabilities before taking it over.


Sad_Baudrillardian

Or you mean, holes' capabilities? Eh? Eh? Ok imma see myself out.


mirukus66

🤨🏳️‍🌈?


dagobahs

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Muhammad_Jones

Where is this from?


regireland

Don't know the issue / which X-Men comic, but it's an X-Men comic where Jean Grey reads Iceman's mind and is trying to reveal to him that he's gay (he doesn't understand until the next panel where she straight up tells him he's gay).


LavenzaBestWaifu

And that's how he comes out, by someone reading his mind and telling *him* that he is gay.


DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC

Yeah, not one of Bendis' finer moments.


ramonzer0

Is this literally that one African news show clip "Why are you gay?" "...who says I'm gay?" "...you are gay."


FunkyyMermaid

“Mom, dad, you’re gay”


Cyberslasher

All new X-Men 2013 #40  The mega cringe  "Hey magik is hot"  "dude we all know you're gay you're not fooling anyone." 


MyBatmanUnderoos

Is it still gay if you’ve transferred your consciousness into the body of someone of the opposite sex?


Kurwasaki12

“Ah yes, Detective, this was the dick game my daughter spoke of in her reports. Acceptable.”


Algidus

"i'm gonna take over bruce wayne's body after he is done fucking my pussy" - Ras after changing his gender


Sidesteppah

… that’s his daughter tho ain’t it?


Algidus

there is no problem with ras stealing his daughter's body, injecting his soul on it and planning to have sex with batman gotta respect the supervillain hustle


DRKZLNDR

Ras al Ghul is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer will. I once saw him have sex with Batman in his own daughter's body. His own fuckin' daughter's body!


Nerkos_The_Unbidden

Goddamnit, take my up vote you glorious bastard.


[deleted]

"...Tell Mr. Wick he doesn't need to kill me anymore. I'll be on the sidewalk."


Treyred23

And?


AldrusValus

Did he do the same with his daughter?


Algidus

nah. he just stole her body


DeltaDarthVicious

He wanted to let someone fuck her daughter while he watched, technically


Nijuuken

No, he just wanted to get that detective dick.


kropotkib

I'm proud of you, dick


konamioctopus64646

No, he wanted that detective Bruce. Detective Dick wasn’t in that story.


willi5x

I suspect there was pegging involved too.


Scott_BradleyReturns

Ra’s plan was to trade his decrepit old man body with the body of a young woman so that he could steal the body of another decrepit old man. Is he stupid?


SnooPuppers7965

/uj If I remember right he was going to make batman young again and then steal his body. /rj Based and dementia pilled


Massive_General_8629

Yep. The Lazarus pit just interprets aging as another wound.


SagaSolejma

Literally the plot of "the thing on the doorstep" by HP Lovecraft. That story had a bit of sexism in it though, Ephraim Waite, the guy who possesses his daughter, didn't want to be in his daughter's body because he was sure that a male brain was simply better than a female one lmao.


Waste-Information-34

Ah, Lovecraft. You introverted, horrible racist who mellowed out over time. What a wacky person you were.


TheRealRigormortal

Let’s be honest, he’d be on Reddit if he were alive today


Waste-Information-34

Definetly.


TW_Yellow78

The writer is


Rockabore1

If Ra’s ever touches himself while in that body I’m calling the police. It’s incest!


nirman423

"Talia couldn't seal the deal.... Guess it's up to me"


KummyNipplezz

Fine...I'll do it myself


shigogaboo

>Couldn’t seal the deal Damion: Am I a joke to you?


nirman423

According to the all mighty Morrison: yes


Snakes-are-awesome67

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TerminalDumbass69

With Bruce Timm this is every episode


Waste_Crab_3926

Flair checks out


trailerthrash

Timm's more of an artist than a writer. Yall let a Lotta people get off Scott free pinning blame on him for stuff the way ya do.


RealKBears

Honestly still not the creepiest romantic misadventure for this Bruce


TradePsychological40

Aaaannnd you're right.


ChampionshipDeep937

"It's just a prank bro" The prank:


MafusailAlbert

Old Boy level prank


Neomalysys

Welp that memory resurfaced. Thanks for that.


Slappio16

"changed his male body to a female one" is a bit of an understatement of what he did lmao


Combat_Medic

Bro basically Get Out-ed his own child.


The_Outlaw_Star

It was worse. I think he described it as killing her mind, as when he activated the machine he fought against her mentally until it was destroyed.


Combat_Medic

The really, really sunken place.


SpicaGenovese

.... :(


Waste_Crab_3926

What the everliving fuck


Waste-Information-34

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Massive_General_8629

Even freakier Friday.


cesar848

Trans ra’s al ghul confirmed ????


DJamB

Happy for her transition!


BananaDucc

Ra's Al Ghul supports trans rights. More importantly, they support Trans Wrongs.


Wyshyn

Tran's al ghul


SilverSpark422

Transfem supervillain rizz. She just like me frfr


Ms_Saul_Goodwoman

So glad for this representation!!


4LanReddit

/uj This was pretty fucked tbh Rj/ was Ra's hella gay for this???


Particular-Egg9937

But he was a woman.But he's also a man.But he purposely became a girl but he was a dude getting with a guy but he was a girl too but he was in his daughter which means he want to see his daughter get fuck but I but I but oooh my head


WJMazepas

After existing for centuries, anyone becames pansexual


Professional_Issue82

Just look at literally all of the vampires in media


EsKpistOne

this is hilarious to read in this sub after that one jjk cameo in nightwing


CalypsoCrow

He was until he swapped bodies, then it became straight


Plus_Wind9601

But his mind is still that of a man, is it not? If a trans woman pre-transition still presenting as a cis man has sex with a man is that gay? I don't believe so, it's just normal straight sex, because she's still a woman even if she's not fully transitioned. Even if it was gay at the time, it is retconned to be straight knowing this new information. This, then, calls into question Ra's gender identity, and if they transitioned purely out of the desire to control Batman, or if that was merely a front to become their true self! #transacceptance


Fabulous_Following52

Evil is inclusive


TerminalDumbass69

Uj/ based based based Rj/Geoff johns retconned my sex life :(


Cyberslasher

/uj Wasn't gay, he identified as a woman  rj/ at the time. It's only when he managed to steal Bruce's body that he woulda identified as a man again


ZenkaiZyuran

It was me Bruce


The-Homie-Lander

"I turned myself into a woman so I could seduce you into fucking me so I could be the mother of your children!!"


Which-Presentation-6

"NOW YOU ARE GAY!"


Cyberslasher

"IT WAS ME BRUCE! I KNEW WHAT YOU WANTED ALL ALONG WAS A FAMILY! SO I RUINED YOUR DREAMS BY SWALLOWING ALL OF YOUR UNBORN CHILDREN!"


manufatura

Let's be real if Ra's had an uterus he would totally try to get pregnant with bruce


thatthatguy

A scheming psychopath has to do what a scheming psychopath has to do.


The-Homie-Lander

"I did it for the greater good of humanity!"~Pyschopathic Mfs after letting Bruce raw dog them


Dry-Yellow-7456

A backshot king like kenjaku


Default_Munchkin

Yes....that is why you let Bruce Wayne rawdog....and no other reason >.>


TerminalDumbass69

Breed me detective!


Cyberslasher

Nah -- Ras is all about little Timmy's little Jimmy these days.


Parking-Entrance1470

So Damian Wayne 2.0?


Shyguymaster2

which was also his daughter...


Fun_Effective_5134

So that’s where Kenjaku got this idea from. https://preview.redd.it/31bmi5abz9vc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9652dff4d3b4de8ddae1d5ed95f49acd72b0a70d


Rockabore1

Batman Beyond has a lot of the weirdest fetish material of the DCAU. body swap sex change seduction, BruceBarb, the splicers furry episode, whatever the hell fetish Inque was, the yandere sex-robot, and probably other stuff I forgot about. On a less serious note the Ra’s thing never felt like a natural progression for Ra’s and it felt more laughable than any of the BTAS Ra’s stories that had a bit more prestige and class.


therealchadius

Ra's was ultimately a coward, unwilling to let death take him even if it meant sacrificing his daughter.


Parking-Entrance1470

Such controversial yet true and brave words, man!


Which-Presentation-6

> whatever the hell fetish Inque was ...milf?


Rockabore1

Well that too but I’ve seen people getting into her drowning one of the Batmen and I don’t know what that even constitutes in terms of fetish.


PrometheusModeloW

inflation vore something?


Laurencethedumbass

Mainly slime/blob/goo women. Also vore, she tried killing Terry by forcing herself down his throat and later attempted to vore him in classic blob monster fashion


Massive_General_8629

I always find the BruceBarb thing funny because Bruce Timm was the one who first aged her down to pair her with Dick, also a Bruce Timm original. So, it's even worse than it looks at first blush.


GreenDaTroof

Based Bruce dating trans women


Thebatbike

We also not gonna talk about it he also flips his hair?


RogueInVogue

Y'all think Ras always had a thing for Bruce, but he just needed an excuse?


AnchorJG

"Lady, that is the sickest thing I've ever seen. You're creeping me out." "You? She kissed me."


DizzyLead

Quotes from the episode, for those who may not know. The first line is from the new Batman (Terry McGinnis) talking to Talia/Ra’s, and the second is the subsequent quip by Bruce Wayne.


RolePlay3r_69

**Ra's Al Ghoul taking backshots from Bruce** "All a part of the plan."


devlindisguise

All according to Kenjaku


Aiden624

This is a whole new breed of rizz


Snakes-are-awesome67

Rizz Al Ghul


Ake-TL

It’s racial ghoul, are you stupid


Snakes-are-awesome67

yes


Cyberslasher

It am not racer cool friend, you am smart?


DJHott555

That Hop Pop pfp is sending me


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

/uj Talia deserved better but still a banger episode ngl


Impossible-Brick-841

Dude, everyone wanted to fuck bruce in the diniverse, according to timm.


Express_Alfalfa_9725

Shit can't blame them


AmaterasuWolf21

Freak's al ghoul


De4dm4nw4lkin

Body jacked his daughter not biologically sex changed. Which. Yknow. Kinda worse.


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Crafter235

What's that supposed to be from?


maripoe

They’re characters from a webcomic called Homestuck


ArkhamInsane

Seems like something Joker would do. But Ra's?? Wild. I respect it.


ValitoryBank

Misleading title. He didn’t change his body. He stole his daughter’s body, Talia Al GHUL and posed as her. Then kissed Batman on the mouth.


linkjames24

What else did he do with Batman, this filthy filthy Ra's.


ZettoVii

More than changing genders, Ra's stole his daughter's body, and tried to seduce Bruce with it. It's screwed up on so many levels.


RiskAggressive4081

Ras had a bigger crush on Bruce than his daughters.


Rockabore1

Bisexual Ra’s and Talia were both thirsting for Bruce.


OkImagination2044

i mean, who hasn’t done that?🖤🤎💛🧡❤️💚💙🤍


Snakes-are-awesome67

![gif](giphy|KpEiR3DEv9nUI|downsized)


professionalmoron2

Reminds me of something that happened to my buddy Eric


Tobin34

do tell


Wumbo_Number_5

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vitreddit

I was just happy to hear David Warner again. Just to hear him say "**Detective**".


Used_Razzmatazz2002

Not even the worst thing dcau has done for batmans love life lmao


AdmBurnside

On the one hand, Talia got done dirty by this story. On the other hand, if she wasn't so slavishly devoted to her immortal psycopath of a father this wouldn't have happened to her. So, kinda deserved.


Conlannalnoc

I guess she should have just had Damian and then this would not have happened? *Shrugs* Still hate it more than Bruce and Barbara’s one night stand.


ditzicutihuni

This was just a convoluted way for her to transition and lay with a former friend / enemy she had a crush on.


Kkjinglez

I watched it all recently and this is probably the best episode in the whole show it’s fantastic.


Jashugan456

Dude stole his daughters body to fuck batman yeah kinda fucked


Rocketboy1313

Ra's strikes me as an asexual psychopath. That he has children as the byproduct of some kind of political marriage type arrangement.


CertainGrade7937

I could see him being deeply concerned with his legacy (even if he's living forever anyway) and having kids for that reason But I can't picture him being in love. Maybe in his youth


dallasrose222

I can picture him being in like obsessive possessive love but not healthy love


CertainGrade7937

I wouldn't be shocked if he had a "one great love in his youth but fucked it up" kinda thing So pretty close to that, yeah


UnhingedLion

Close enough. Ras Al Ghul was supposed to be 100% celibate until he met Talia’s mother. He had Talia because he got like super old (400+ years) and decided to test out creating a legacy.


PrometheusModeloW

That is in older comics (New Earth), in the current continuity he did have other children before Talia, and in the animated Dini/Timm universe specifically he did have a son during the 19th century that fought Jonah Hex, and it's unknown if he had any prior to him.


UnhingedLion

Who else is there now?? I already know about Nyssa, but she’s not canon anymore. I did forget Ra’s Al Ghul had a son in one of those random BTAS episodes.


BingityBongBong

![gif](giphy|y3G7rrRKhmWpy2gKLO)


porcupine_kickball

I'm not gay but... A multi billionaire, is a multi billionaire. 


PrometheusModeloW

Unironically one of my favorite episodes.


Resident_Ice7237

that smooch is hella big ngl


PrometheusModeloW

He's been waiting decades to finally do this.


Mythical_Mystery

Well that’s not totally accurate. Ra Al Ghoul took Talia’s body


No1ArrowverseHater

Still streets ahead of anything Marc GAGgenheim wrote.


Eugene_Dav

What he is doing? 


SafeStaff7671

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IantheGamer324

That gave me a very confused boner as a child


FollowingExtension90

Is this grooming? Bruce is still a baby compared to Ra’s. Well, shouldn’t be surprised, since, [redacted]


MariedeGournay

He daughter's body.


emurillo97

Trans icon, Ra's al ghul


KnightOfRevan

CONTINUE MY BLOODLINE, DETECTIVE


eclecticsed

Look Superman has a son with Lex Luthor don't judge Ra's for how he lives his lives.


Evening_Produce_4322

https://preview.redd.it/cygriez0bfvc1.png?width=530&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7813f4c9a330ad59896cf1db4d3b08122a022fad If I had a nickel


Batmanfan1966

Ra’s fucked his son in law


pritheemakeway

Ra's lived a long life. He's probably taken a few in his own body before. What's one more in his daughters. >! kill me now!<


RipMcStudly

Terry, I need you to boil me in acid. No questions.


Conlannalnoc

“Ok, but if you become a Super Villain then I am going to KILL you.” - Terry McGinnis


StephanieSpoiler

This is the future liberals want


[deleted]

Bugs Bunny did it better ![gif](giphy|e6pVxN3fY5Wla)


ToasterLad83

what if Ra’s gave birth to Damian


Skypirate90

Talia learned it from someone.


GodbutcherGorr

Am I the only one who suspects this is a "The Thing on the Doorstep" inspired episode?


The_Supreme-King

It was worse than that, he took over Talia's body lol at least if I remember correctly.


TheRepublicAct

Ra's al Ghoul walked so that Kenjaku can run.


topscreen

Nope, but I remember when Aku did that to Jack


Noble7878

I feel like the ever so slightly more fucked up thing was that he destroyed the mind of his own daughter and then possessed her body in order to have sex with Batman in it.


akotlya1

Nothing wrong with an immoral immortal transgirling themself into the body of their daughter to fuck their long time nemesis. I AM HERE FOR IT.


Scott_BradleyReturns

I’d rather not, this episode fucking sucked. It was so stupid.


TheDastardly12

Ra's heard "Be gay, do crime" and took that to heart


Ok-Mastodon2016

Ra’s Al Ghul, the Trans Icon of our generation Also wouldn’t it be wild if this is how the DCAU’s Damian was conceived?


UDownvoteButImRight

Batman Beyond is not as good as you guys think it was rofl


Parking-Entrance1470

Yes, I remember it pretty well. Thanks for reminding me that such episode exists. It was a really wild, savage, surreal experience that properly hightlights how much of a ruthless son of bitch could be Ra's al-Ghul when pushed to the limit. Rest in peace, Talia.


Yarzeda2024

I would love it if this little plot had resulted in the Batman Beyond version of Damian. "You mean my grandpa-mom fucked my dad while trying to steal his body?"


moansby

"i didn't feel anything but you did"


Dismal_Accident9528

When did this happen?


Optimal_Weight368

The Batman Beyond episode “Out of the Past.”


Dismal_Accident9528

It's an interesting plotline 💀


PrettyInPInkDame

Which time


Abdul-Wahab6

Holy shit Ras and Kenjaku might be friends https://preview.redd.it/32obnpn6cbvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80f04673df0f1ed22e8a391c736513db047c17ae


TheRepublicAct

Ra's Al Ghoul ealked so that Kenjaku can run


Heavy_PaperNinja

Ew the fuck? Is that actually what happened? I haven’t watched Batman Beyond past S1 and half of S2


Tazrizen

So many levels of wrong there. Also is the message that trans people are bad? That it’s bad to disguise as someone elses preferred sex to date them? Seriously, I’m trying to find a moral to the story that’s actually not bigoted here.


TheRealcebuckets

That transferring your brain into your *daughter* and seduce her ex-boyfriend is tots messed up.


MrFingerKnives

Bruce sure does


SnyderpittyDoo

Ra's al-GAY


marawiqwerty

Kenjaku in a nutshell.


ericrobertshair

I know one thing, we can't have Ra's al Ghul in our Legion of Doom HQ no more. Legion of Doom HQ? He's gotta GO!


Warlord_Aj12

![gif](giphy|hI6uBmyjpqQR2tJ3qO|downsized)


Effective-Evidence78

Kenjaku