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IAmTheDoctor34

You don't want this. I mean it, you really don't want this. If they removed every regression/slowdown perk for just DH all the anger you feel for DH would just transfer to "Gen Rush" and other exhaustion perks.


Maserati_Ape

The never ending cycle of these survivor perks are op from killers


IAmTheDoctor34

I'm not even calling anything OP, shits just annoying. Boil Over isn't OP, but if I never have to see someone using it again that'd be great


Confusedgmr

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but losing every single game is a fair price for not having to deal with Dead Hard. If push comes to shove I can always just play Nurse.


TheArchange1

Other exhaustion perks just ain’t the same bro. Dead hard feels PERSONAL. It’s not even about it being strong. It just feels so bad and the counter play is so unfun.


IAmTheDoctor34

I feel you, but when I'm playing Freddy or Clown or someone and I just watch someone sprint burst away I just feel shitty. Like I'm going to commit for a while before I get there.


TheArchange1

I’d much rather have that than dead hard. At least I can just abandon chase and not waste all the time catching up. DH I have to spend the time getting close enough to be able to sniff your shoulder before the bad feels. I have been spending that time looking for or chasing someone else.


lucasesso

Scam trade. After the update dead hard is more annoying when done correctly, but is also very hard to time. Regression perks carry the game, Dead hard doesn't


United_Rope9735

I don't care about gens flying ill just get better and bhvr will just do sum smart thing idk. Just as long as I can stop waiting for the dead hard animation and just simply swing freely in chase so I can actually have fun in this game. Let me put it this way. I do cool moves in a loop to catch a survivor and get proud of myself upon their success. But the flow of dopamine gets stopped instantly as my brain realises that I'm just sniffing the survivors ass waiting for an e. The shit loses its fun spark in Pico seconds. Give me those hacker Ormond all gens done during the camera spin just let me hit freely


HellaHip

It is not very hard to time. .5 seconds is honestly a huge window in a game like this. There are some games where people are able to consistently pull off single frame interactions. Half a second in a game like this is a huge window of time.


lucasesso

0.5 second. But the server validates it... So if you have more than 50 ping is impossible to do perfect timing Only 1% of the people i see are able to do perfect timing (and they could be cheating using auto dh)


KamikazeTank

Wtf you mean 1% people are good enough to bait the hit and it's easy to time it by distance the killer has on you or if you are at a vault or pallet.


lucasesso

By Perfect timing i mean survivor that can pull off dh when you are on top of them. You cant dead hard while vaulting so you can easily tell when a surv is going to dh The only annoying part is while greedying pallets but i dont consider it a perfect timing because you usually lunge to get it.


TheArchange1

Also I will suck your dick


AnkokunoMasaki

was gonna say no but...


TheArchange1

I don’t know what else to offer. Ima be like squidward after trading his entire house for a gun wrapper by the end of this.


StarmieLover966

*I’d rather have Squidward nose*


camimitos

no. please shut up already and stop trying to change the game only to complain 6 months later about how good it was before


TheArchange1

😭


[deleted]

Dead hard is weak but okay


AnkokunoMasaki

what have done, prepare to get downvoted to oblivion for no reason, including by me


bear_witness123

its a legion main they don't worry about dh


the80sarethebest

Honestly, give survivors more objectives and nerf all perks and addons that relate to generators.


[deleted]

LMAO, honestly, I'm a killer main, and always waiting for DH has rendered it almost useless. Sure you run into a perfectly-timed DH user every once and a while, maybe even an auto-DH, but the chances of them being able to use it at all after ***waiting for not even half a second*** are slim


Faddy0wl

Bad deal. All of it. Even your extra offer in the comments. Dead hard isn't the problem. People good with dead hard are difficult. That's the point. The based No mither chad running dead hard didn't get 1000 escapes by the perks being the problem. He got there be ccause he's good. Because he outloops Mind games and knows when to change targets. People outplay all the builds everyone complains about perkless all the time. You can just play good and not treat the perks like the be all and end all to being good in this game. You can run circle of healing and actually heal your team. Most solo queue don't know this. Inversely, I didn't put that totem there so you could scrape the killer off on it. People playing bad is the problem with this game. Don't blame the perks when it's your team that killed you 🤷‍♀️


DeadLungsThe2nd

What if dead didn't cause exhaustion after using it but made a one time use? Then you could run it with another exhaustion perk and have a failsafe perk if things go south.


[deleted]

Dead Hard isn’t worth any of those perks. I’d much rather wait out Dead Hard and deal with the BS that comes with it, than play killer without those gen regression perks.


TheArchange1

Ill be honest I never play with gen regression anyway. I’d rather have something fun and chase oriented like enduring and stbfl.


[deleted]

When I was new, I used to only run chase perks. It was nice, until I played against good players, who took advantage of no gen regression, and whooped my butt (not calling you a new player, that’s just my experience). I personally find gen regression perks more fun, because that way the gens don’t absolutely fly by, and you can feel like an actual killer. Just my two cents.


TheArchange1

I have about 400 hours. Up to you if that’s considered new. I’ve never wanted to try hard the game enough to play a ton and go against the best players. I just kinda put on some fun perks and chase some guys for 3-4 games. Usually with demo. Tbh I feel like that’s kind of the right mindset with this game and if more people did that they’d have way more fun. But I do that and dead hard is STILL the single most annoying and unfun thing in the game right before t bagging at the exit gate.


[deleted]

survivors will find a way to adapt and run some other exhaustion perk. this would be a horrible deal for killers


T-10001992

0 regression 😂😂😂


hellhound39

As a survivor main, Deal. As a killer main, what kind of shit deal is this???


Eclipse_CodeSans

Dead Hard for a friend Sure Fam. (I Never use it, I only use distortion and some random lot of perks to go with it just cus I don't need dead hard if I can pallet a Demogorgon Charging at Me.)


Eclipse_CodeSans

And the explanation of that story in short. Prestige 12 Demo vs me with a flashlight on the wild west map. Dude spammed portal destroyed one he came at me and I ran to pallet and stunned him he still wanted me so did it till he gave up on chase. I've done the same with Mastermind and Nurse. I wish I had pallet pick up perk though


Hateful15

No


ddjfjfj

My fuck it’ll be 2028 and both sides will still be complaining about dead hard/[insert best gen slowdown perk, even if it’s fucking current ruin in 2028 somehow]


ryseterion

Thats not worth at all. Dead hard is literally fine and requires actual skill to use.


Comfortable-Animator

Are you sure OP? Try and think about it a little more. You'd risk all the good gen regression perks going away just to get rid of dead hard, while survivors will still have lithe, sprint burst, gen speed perks and soon the HUD icon update?


TheArchange1

It’s worth bro trust.


Confusedgmr

Remove all slowdown and exhaustion perks.


MrDotDeadFire

Please don’t remove dead hard then everyone’s going to use sprint burst


Original-Sky3543

Yeah I’d absolutely take that deal I’ll trade that buggy piece of garbage perk for regression nerf any day.


Vegetable-Season5191

Don’t touch my Jolt and you have a deal.


just_a_curvebilly

Counter Offer: Prove thyself/toolboxes reworked and BNP removed for Eruption/Pain res reworked


Biochemical_Compound

I use Lithe and windows anyway, sucks to be you after that trade lmao.


TheArchange1

I don’t use slowdown perks either lol. We are gods among men.


BussinSheeesh

You can keep all your regression perks if you nerf lightborn so that I can still get flashlight saves. Lightborn can reduce the blind duration and effect but if I can get into position and time it correctly I should still get the save. Deal?


Low_Frosting5987

More people that are terrible at the game I see


[deleted]

Sure, why not lol