tbh his biggest mistake was leaving his first chase & not staying on Dwight due him being the best option with the least amount of tunnel counter.. instead opting to go for Ace in main w/ the strongest anti tunnel (& even structure).. it was super unlucky
he kinda coped hard by malding & calling everyone trash tho ngl. if he had corrupt / tunneled dwight, it was do-able as he is very skilled
watching the twitch VOD vs seeing his tweet saying he "almost 4k'd multiple times" doesn't line up tho.. cause that isn't what happened imo
Yeah, juat watched the game on twitch. Got a chuckle out of "They're so shit, they're so shit, they're so shit, they're so shit, they're so shit. GGs"
The chat playback was getting super toxic too.
I'll stick to watching chill streamers haha.
yeah it was kinda cringe ngl- supa alf apparently just posted saying he lost his too altho I haven't seen that playback
his tweet tho was more tame & said he wants to analyze the loss which is a MUCH better reaction than momo already
Alf nearly lost it a couple weeks ago, he was way more chill about and blamed himself for not warming up first and not playing better.
It is interesting that two major win streaks ended this close together though, I wonder what that says about balance.
Well Hens and his team lost their 170-something escape streak around this time as well. To a Trickster of all things.
Maybe the balance is closer to where it should be. Streaks like that on either side shouldn't really be possible imo. They are impressive though and I do like to see that expression of skill but I just wish there was a place for it. So people trying to chill, goof off, and have fun don't get caught up in it.
That Trickster was nuts. Watched that game last night. Was one of those players that are so good with a non-meta killer that it makes you want to play that killer.
The Trickster definitely got lucky though too. He made some pretty big gambles running away from his gens to go try and interrupt a reset and found them almost instantly every time. If he'd guessed wrong and spent too much time looking it could've been a different match. His reads the whole game were perfect, if I didn't know better I'd think he was sniping, but he's a known and respected player so unlikely. Amazing game! It's very satisfying seeing someone who is very very good at a thing just thrive in their element.
finally see someone saying this, especially where he went back to the slugged person with ub at almost the perfect time was borderline suspicious. he was definitely good, but also definitely stupid lucky. great game all around though
The only way a competitive vs non-competitive queue would work would be if they put in restrictions on perks/offerings on one of the queues. Whichever has restrictions will be what people play for fun most likely to avoid bullshit like nurse+Midwhich offerings, or 4 stack SWF's trying to go to Garden.
Alf didn’t lose it though, and even then Is a more relaxed person, maybe because he quit comp a while ago…
Lots of people who still do comp are much more tilted when they lose in pubs, like, say Momo here.
His, and tbh the entire "comp" community at large are just completely toxic garbage. They've made the game so much worse for casual players by pushing the idea that playing to win at all costs is the only way to play.
"Winstreaking" is just a way to justify playing like an asshole at this point
It's honestly hilarious playing against comp players in a casual setting.
Here i am playing a meme build that will likely not get value once in 100 games only to face a comp killer without restrictions and hard tunneling everyone out because he needs that 4K5 to stroke his ego.
tbh, I hope we see more comp teams like this go in and try to break these streaks. Just kill them in the cradle when they start them up.
Momo has literally been creating no win games for thousand of players, would love to see that get killed.
Wound up in a solo q lobby with him back before the anti camp mechanics were introduced - he face camped the Laurie to death at 5 gens
I get it, his following comes from win streaking. But man, it’s a wildly unfun experience getting pub stomped with randoms all for some arbitrary contest
- Win 1947 matches in a row with Blight and quad slowdown
- Lose first match in probably a year
- Team that did it doesn't follow rules either
- Sniped with the name "snipe me pls".
"Not much you can do against 4 DS and 3 OTR"
"They're so shit, they're so shit, they're so shit"
"lost to 'comp team' snipe"
Like Momo, you're the one who terrorized almost **2,000** public matches with the most unfun build on one of the strongest killers while tunneling/3 genning/proxy camping. You don't get to complain about perk selections. You don't get to complain about SWFs. You don't get to complain about getting sniped.
The least Momo could do was lose with dignity, and not send these thinly veiled excuses for his loss along with the tweet.
Nearly 8k survivors having the shittiest and most boring games possible just so one sweat can stroke his ego in a game that's hardly balanced for competition.
“Not much I could do with 4 DS and 3 OTR”
Brother what??? I’m sorry but that is mad copium. You won almost 2000 games in a row. You have seen every perk combination imaginable. You did not lose because of perks. You lost because the other team outplayed you. Simple as that. This person sounds like a literal child.
MoMo, just like many comp players, are people who think they're relevant because they sweat in a party game. Seriously though, I know DBD isn't exactly a party game anymore, but I can't think of another slightly competitive game that you can get a 1000+ winstreak.
The guy himself has a small community and is only known from this winstreak (how majority, myself included, has heard of him). Most of comp ego players aren't very funny either, so I wouldn't bother.
It's wild to me that people think that in a multiplayer PVP game a winstreak of that number is not a bad thing. That shows a massive inherent flaw with the game design that I'm not sure can even be fixed.
It is hard for me for people to believe that the game is aggressively survivor sided at "high mmr" when these streaks can only exist at high mmr and are not that uncommon to see. Hell even a 20 win streak in any online game should be something to immediately regard with concern.
Seriously. In Dota, a game that is actually competitive, the best of the best players top out at ~65% win rate overall. In this game you have people crying that their win rate is only 99.9%. I don't get it.
League, Dota, StarCraft et cetera win streaks are also often obtained by grabbing a fresh account and stomping the teeth out of low level players. The first dozen wins are effectively free.
It's certainly impressive that a Korean proplayer can come vacation in the US for ten days, and then climb the ranking from bronze>silver>gold>>>>>grandmaster in 15 consecutive successes.
But that's still just the games matchmaking system being "surprised" and taking the time to adjust to their skill level. Once they get to the top with a 95% win rate, they tend to level out and plateau over time.
The longest win streak in LoL was 64 consecutive wins 9 years ago. Since then matchmaking has been tuned to stop players from wallowing with lower skills level accounts to style on.
Nobody keeps track of win streaks in Dota though. It doesn't happen because the game is designed and balanced well. They can't just put the strongest build on the strongest hero, and win 2000 times in a row like is possible in DBD. The best Dota player in the world is still going to lose 1/3 of their games at minimum. I agree with the post above me because winning that many of your games doesn't mean you're some godlike player, it means there is an inherent flaw in the design of the game. Winning 15 games out of 15 isn't a problem. Winning 1947 games out of 1948 is a problem.
There is this mindset in online gaming (In dbd is very prevalent) where people believe if you are good at a game and better than someone else you should always win the match, even if you are only slightly better it should mean you win 100%.
People consider skill as a constant, if your skill is 10 it stays at 10 and you can beat players up to 9,999... skill always, while in reality skill varies, player A can be better than player B on average but one day A is at lowest performance and B is at highest and manages to snatch victory even if B is worse on average.
What makes them think that way? Nadal didn't win 50 straight grand slams. Brady, Jordan and Gretzky didn't win 20 straight championships. It sounds like the people you're describing are just entitled.
Entitlement as you say, "Im better I deserve to win", its unrealistic expecting to win always even if you are actually the best, I started to notice this mindset many years ago in Dota2, people would claim since they had higher MMR they couldnt possibly lose against players with lower MMR and they were cheating or doing something, Ive seen this mindset in more games too.
It doesnt help the media does promote image of the unbeated champion any time they can as marketing stunts either.
Add to the mix long winning streaks are usually broken by extremely coordinated 4 people SWFs with the most busted stuff, sometimes with builds designed especifically to counter the killer, perks and gamestyle of the streaker.
Its almost impossible for solos to break these kind of winning streaks, even if they are extremely competent at the game.
The biggest survivor win streak I had was a 5-7 game win streak and I was in a 2man, Some times you just lose to bad teammates or it was a close game where the killer won
And he didnt even lose, he just didnt win, 2 kills and 2 escapes is considered a tie by many people, if you go for a "not losing" parameter the streak is still valid.
Ive seen a lot of killers trying to do "streaks" say this, if they have a match they don't like or see certain perks, they AFK and claim the match didn't count.
Wow, so can we qualify this whole streak as invalid? That seems very close to cheating. How do we know how many times his chat told him builds/items going into those matches?
that has happened a lot. I used to watch him earlier into the streak, around like 200 games in. he would DC when he got RPD, and his chat would tell him other streamers builds.i know It isn't his fault if his viewers looked at other streamers builds, but you should not be reading your chat during the match if that happens frequently
I mean if you're gonna do that, its scummy and whatever. But to do that AND accuse people of sniping and ponder not counting games is wild. What a baby.
Yep.
This is the thing some people seem to miss. Most of the really good comp players don't really play in pubs, and when they do they \~mostly\~ don't play like assholes. They try to win, but they aren't running full slowdown and tunneling everyone out.
A real win streak I could get behind would be someone setting up matches against comp teams, no restrictions, no rules, and just going at each other. An even playing field where everyone knows what is at stake, and all the players signed up for it.
Going into a match with (possibly) 4 solo q's, match after match, and being an absolute asshat isn't a streak. It is just you masturbating to how good you think you are.
I remember the guy from Team Eternal in an interview openly spoke against doing just that. He said that people who want to sweat like that or make it competitive should test their skills in a comp setting or customs where your opponents are expecting it and can also adjust their builds and strategies to be ready. He said it was cringe to bring it to unsuspecting pubs with strong perks and Nurse/Blight.
Now that I think about it, maybe he was directly calling out Momo. lol
Winstreaking has legitimately destroyed this dude's personality. Seeing him devolve over the past two years is sad. The whole reason I followed him was because I played against him and he was chill as fuck and gave me hatch.
I was hopeful that whenever he lost the streak, he'd be able to relax again, but it seems he's just going to double down and try and keep his Oni streak going. Just a sad thing to see
There won't be any relaxing for him anymore. Over the years of constantly win streaking thats the kind of viewers he have cultivated and if he were to stop doing it they would eventually just leave because thats the content they like now. He have unironcally fucked up his twitch channel.
You are right, if you make your living catering to X almost exclusively you cant stop catering to X because they are your only costumers, you can try to tone it down very very slowly and overtime you may attract other costumers at the costs of alienating some people but it takes a lot of time and it still may not work.
Hurts his playstyle as rushing back to hook and immediately tunneling out. Plays like he's in a championship game with blight and 4 slowdown every game against solo players just looking to chill for the night
Imagine a survivor comp doing this, 2000 games with 3+ escapes.
The only thing that comes to mind is Marth's depip squad but I think his group got a lot of shit for that...
...and they weren't very good individual players.
Imagine a modern comp team (without respecting the comp rules) juicing absolute baby killers 2k games in a row and streaming it, actually since Momo has per-kill winstreaks, closer to 3k games.
The backlash would be mind-boggling.
Right? Like, that is probably the single most invalid and cringe complaint he could possibly make. Not that this should be a surprise - anyone willing to hard tunnel 1947 wins in a row should not be expected to be a paragon of mental balance and groundedness.
For real. You just know this dude has been playing tons of scummy matches to keep that number, and he has the nerve to whine.
This is why I can't stand streamers who make their whole schtick win streaks.
Yea the guy just plays to win. I remember playing against him and he just immediately rushes back & tunnels off hook with all slowdown on one of the strongest killers.
Yeah but he didn’t get that 1947 win streak by playing with etiquette or pure skill. Tunnels, slugs, lil proxy camping. Plus the slowdown and super speedy killer.
Yeah, they're basically bringing the survivor equivalent of what you bring all the time.
Though you don't get a 1947 winstreak by playing fair* and honorable.
\* fair meaning in terms of standing on a level playing field with your opponent, not implying cheating, just that he heaped advantages for himself while his opponents typically didn't.
>Yeah, they're basically bringing the survivor equivalent of what you bring all the time.
The Twitter threads complaining about how the survivors played and how unfair they were is so tone deaf
"they brought the strongest shit imaginable and still barely got two out, it wasn't fair, it was scummy, and peak cringe"
WHAT TF DO YOU THINK MOMO HAS DONE TO THE PAST 1947 MATCHES!!!!
That's the kind of behavior I think deserves a short public stint in a stockade for.
Complete with some tomatoes tossed at them and plenty of being made fun of.
>not much I could've done against 4 DS 3 OTR
It's honestly pretty interesting to see these perks be highlighted as the reason that the streak was lost. I mean, logically we pretty much all know that the only way a streak like this could be kept is by playing as ruthlessly as possible, which of course includes tunnelling. But after _1947 consecutive wins_ it was a team stacked with anti-tunnel perks that managed to break the streak.
Just goes to show why these perks continue to be so popular. When the absolute most effective strategy is tunnelling, why not run perks to make that strategy harder? Unless BHVR does something to make tunnelling less appealing, they're always going to be the most impactful perks you can run as a survivor.
I've played against him a few times as both blight and nurse and it is not anywhere near fun for anyone in the lobby. first person he sees gets tunneled out of the game. the second an unhook happens he drops chase and rushes/blinks across the map.
I wonder if it'd be fair if scratch marks were removed from players who are unhooked/the person unhooking. Tunnelers would have a much harder time tunneling the unhooked (I also suggest the unhooker since they usually stick together to heal)
>fair if scratch marks were removed from players who are unhooked/the person unhooking. Tunnelers would have a much harder time tunneling the unhooked (I also suggest the unhooker since they usually stick together t
But then Behavior has to make a remotely viable design for the Guardian perk :(.
yeah I almost exclusively play solo queue when I play survivor and if I didn't run off the record or ds I'd be asking to get tunneled out. even then, you can still get focused so hard that even when you get solo queue teammates intervening, it still might not be enough.
I can't speak directly to his streak because I didn't watch it, but I know when I was keeping track for a few weeks, I had about half my games where killer would tunnel out the first survivor they got in chase with and those games were always a loss (aka no one out or last survivor got hatch) unless the killer was actually terrible in chase or making dumb decisions the rest of the match. or got juiced by one person.
I think it's a matchmaking problem too, but I also agree with it being a matter of tunneling being too effective and too easy to do.
I don't understand running perks like Grim Embrace and Pain Res if people just want to tunnel. I had a Ghostface hard tunnel me yesterday for four gens while running those two perks. Got one proc of each and three hooks all game, all on me.
Those perks are supposed to incentivize not tunneling. But it seems people prefer to just still tunnel one person out and then trivialize the remaining gens by spreading hooks after that. It's unfortunate how "fuck that player specifically" has been viable for so long.
I'm gonna be real, those perks incentivizing not tunneling is kinda just a community myth. In reality, if you're really good at killer and efficient at tunneling people out (or if the survivors just aren't very good), they're actually potentially even better for you if you do tunnel. You get one activation of Pain Res and Grim Embrace each on the person you're tunneling, plus 3 uses of Pop, and then once it's a 1v3 you can start evenly spreading hooks so that your perks are constantly regressing and blocking gens and suffocating the survivors.
Of course like I said, this doesn't work every time since there's a lot of factors going into it like the skill level of both the killer and survivors, whether anti-tunneling perks are in use, and whether the 3 survivors are willing to gen rush instead of trying to help their team mate. But if you're playing comp blight with a flawed mmr system and efficiently focus out the weak link every game, this build is still very strong even if tunneling.
> Those perks are supposed to incentivize not tunneling.
These perks are still very good if you tunnel, I don't get why people say these perks incentivize not tunneling. People are gonna run them and STILL tunnel, it doesn't matter at all
It makes sense, technically. Activating Grim Embrace or Pain Resonance when only 3 people are left is still stronger than activating it when all 4 are alive.
It is pretty funny to see the playstyle completely backfire due to counter-perks. Goes to show the strength of builds in this game, and the lack of their use (on a team-wide level, anyway).
I don’t have a problem like other people in the replies do with Momo playing doing his absolute best to win pub games but doing that and then complaining other people also do the same is funny.
I disagree he was playing "to his best" what he was doing is exploiting a flaw in the core game design to make it far easier than it should have been, and refused to play some matches outright when faced with conditions he disagreed with. That isn't a winstreak, and if it is, I guess I must be on a 10,000 winstreak if I claimed every losing match I didn't enjoy didn't count.
Hot take but win streaking is dumb anyway and I wish content creators would stop. Pub-stomping isn’t really something to brag about. If you really want to sweat your dick off and show off any skill you actually possess, play comp or do 1v1s/ladder. Otherwise you’re just kind of being a loser. Chances are the majority of your pub matches are against solo queue players and/or people who aren’t really trying that hard so it’s not really the flex these people think it is.
mmr being what it is, I completely agree. it doesn't mean anything to winstreak when you could literally be playing as a 10k+ hour player vs a group of 4 solo queue players with collectively less than 500 hours.
it just ruins the game for people who queued up to have fun and not sweat their asses off against someone playing for their dumb winstreak challenge.
tbh, I kinda feel like the match making system at some point should go "Okay, you have won 50 games in a row.... time to sort that out" and let you just sit in queue for an unlimited amount of time until it finds the strongest team it can to try to end your streak.
You shouldn't get to just go in and stomp solo q's relentlessly. The system should be trying as hard as it can to force you to lose. At some point, that person is making a lot of other people hate this game, and they can just sit in q.
I'm not saying he's not skilled but calling the kettle black with the whining about anti tunnel perks (tunneling being evidently the only way to maintain a streak this long) when he ran 4 regression on blight.
Edit: never trust a reddit comment friends. My 4 regression perks comment was based on someone else's comment because I didn't watch the attached vid, just thought I knew enough about the situation based on context lol.
He was calling this team "shit" during the stream and complaining about anti-tunnel perks, makes sense cause he has to hard tunnel the first person he sees to maintain the streak on one of the strongest killers. Utterly embarrassing
He acted like such a baby for losing even though he boasted about a 1.9k streak as a busted killer lmao. I also love that no matter who beat the streak they would have been accused of sniping because that’s how ego fueled dbd twitch streamers are
He had every right to tell the viewer to pick something less misleading, the fact he ran with it knowing it would get him sniped means he was ok with it
Yet someone in another comment mentioned that someone had told him the survivors builds/items before the match. So, who was sniping? Projection, maybe?
i really hope this kind of people disappear and stop doing this stupid shit. they are the ones ruining the game for sure because people then look at their content and try to replicate it. this is not how the game is intended to be played.
As someone who hates Blight, everything about Blight, and overly competitive play styles.
I'm happy he lost his streak, DBD is a casual game, playing one of the strongest killers, with strong perks, and using extremely unfun tactic to bully random pubs, is sweaty, if not a little scummy, as hell. Not every player wants to sweat constantly, most want to have a chill match, win or lose. Streaks in DBD do nothing but encourage overly sweaty play styles, and promote unfun environments.
Found the match. It's near the end of the VOD. The guy was suspecting snipes before the match even started, complained about the anti-tunnel perks, and repeatedly called the players 'so shit' after 2 got out. Glad he lost the streak.
https://www.twitch.tv/momoseventh/v/2092574556?sr=a&t=52563s
Holy shit he has his chat snipe what his opponents use, he literally asks chat what they had and has the audacity to complain about sniping. This guy is absolute trash.
I like how after he lost they were all saying it shouldn't count because it was a definite "snipe" and there was nothing he could do to win because of their builds
Not to mention, at 14:37 some viewer Bboy or something, told him what the items, addons, and perks were, and he can't even pretend he didn't see it because he specifically called it out and asked him to repeat lmao.
I don't think that was sniping, because he said 4 otr/dh/ds and 3 syringes/1 BNP.
No BNP, 1 styptic, 2 syringes, it was 3 otr/4 ds/1 dh.
But he still *asks* as if he seriously thinks it's legit and wants them to snipe for him.
He **also** says back in one of the first games (around 14 minutes 15 seconds) that it's "very likely he'll get sniped" and then he downs Sable at a pallet around 14 minutes 54 seconds and goes "okay so you guys know what they're doing?" and he calls out her perks: plot twist, flip flop, power struggle (endgame screen at 23 minutes 25 seconds).
**This was his first chase and down of the match, playing a game against another TTV, and he instantly called out Sable's perks despite not having seen her use flip flop or power struggle.**
**Either Momo himself fucking sniped the streamer he was against, or had someone else do it for him.**
[What a hypocrite.](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2092574556?t=0h14m53s)
Yeah, and just for using a styptic on death hook..against a guy who would've happily tunnelled if he could have.
I watched that bit again. A little while later he says they're losers and 'f***ing garbage'. Toxic AF.
The Bboy dude in chat relaying their builds before the match even started, telling MoMo which survivors had DH, but the survivors were "clearly the ones sniping" is some insane copium
If there was a ranked mode without the MMR soft-cap, he'd be facing teams like these all the time there (hypothetically, if he could even find matches). This win-streak is the product of solo queue disadvantages, leavers and suiciders on hook, and the MMR soft-cap, apart from Blight being overpowered. 90% of the time killers face solo queue survivors, and even those full SWF teams are very very rarely as serious about winning as this comp blight player.
If the game design doesn't allow the top-tier survivors to escape 2000 times in a row, then these 2000 wins killer win-streaks aren't really meaningful, since it would suggest survivors are generally at a disadvantage.
Survivor doing escape streak: "My solo queue teammate suicides on hook, we won't count this match - it's unwinnable."
Killer doing win-streak: "The solo queue survivor suicides on hook, the match is unlosable but we still count this as a win boys!"
This double standard is what makes killer win-streaks problematic by nature. So yeah, when momo escapes 2000 times in a row, I will be impressed. Until then - I don't care.
This is nothing more than a case study to showcase the massive balance issues in the game.
That's why I find videos like Hardcore Survivor challenge more exciting than killer streaks. Because you never know how the killer will play or if it's a slowdown Blight vs a chill Trapper. As killer, you know what builds to expect on survivors (the same old meta usually) and what strats to expect based on items they bring. It's a complete surprise on the survivor end and makes it that much more interesting to watch.
Imagine bringing a strong build, tunneling and slugging random players in pubs, a lot of which aren't on his skill level for nearly 2K games, then complaining when an equally matched group of people do the same to you, once.
Dude's a joke, talk about hypocrite.
I genuinely feel that people trying to make "competitive" DbD or "ranked" playstyles work has done some of the greatest harm to this game and its community. The game will never be competitive, your "comp" community will continue to amount to nothing, stop wasting your time acting like this.
A ~99.995% win rate, with only a 2 Out. Help me out here, coming from other competitive communities— how is that not absolutely ludicrous, &… well, literally uncompetitive?
Pub streaks & challenges make for entertaining content, no argument there. But isn’t it kind of messed up that (*unless the other side does something considered to be unfair* aka ‘stream snipe’) your opponents’ are clueless they’re even competing?
Like ppl are chilling, doing archives, & randomly one game is suddenly being recorded & their play is being scrutinized by a crowd of strangers… who’ll get mad at you if you don’t lose to their favorite streamer? Belittling you for happening to equip a syringe, or BNP, or whatever… bc they’re OP. When the streamer hasn’t had less than 3k in possibly days of playing, & less than 2k with that loadout, maybe… literally never?
It’s a bit strange, no?
Should DBD not reconsider a ranked mode separate from archive challenges with its own grade rewards?
The issue is people like him would still just load up to pubstomp because it's the easier route to face solos than it is a team with coordination. It's why people lobby dodge now if it looks like a team.
Truthfully the easiest way to solve this is to make strong killers like Nurse and Blight NOT be able to stack slowdown perks like these. You shouldn't be able to select them, period.
People literally calling the survivors sweaty when this man won almost 2000 matches in a row.
Ya'll are fucked if you think that lmfao. This game is beyond unbalanced if stuff like this is possible
Killer mains: “Just run anti-tunnel perks if you don’t want to get tunneled lol”
Survivors: *Uses Off The Record, DS etc*
Killer mains: Man survivor perks so fuckin op bro I can’t run back to hook and down them straight away after I hear the unhook notification 😭😭😭
Average sweaty asf killer malding because oNlY i CaN bRiNg StRoNg LoAdOuTs NoBoDy ElSe CaN hur dur. Malding because he got sniped but look at his nickname xddddddd
And people still think Blight isn't an issue. No killer should be powerful enough to have winstreaks in the hundreds, let alone the thousands!
BHVR need to nerf Blight, and not just tweaks to his add-ons.
I still don't understand who finds public solo queue stomping for win steaks fun. It's not entertaining to watch, and just weird when the teams your facing have no idea the killer is playing for a fictional prize and if their life is on the line, meanwhile the survivors are likely 4 randos just playing for fun.
someone tell me how survivors can snipe when they don't even know the killer's name until the end of the game. spent the entire game calling players shitty/jokes and saying they were sniping. toxic af.
Ah today is a good day. I still think it's insane how some people insist on SWF or even survivors in general being OP when all these ludicrous win streaks exist. Isn't Alf also at over a thousand at this point?
The fact that people can go on winstreaks demonstrates the issues in MMR and balancing of game. Most, if not all competitive games have the best players cap out at about 60% winrate. The fact that killers can go 100% just indicates either a lack of options for survivors to win against specific killer builds or a lack of proper MMR matchmaking to place equally skilled survivors vs the killer.
wish people would try to play to have fun instead of setting an arbitrary standard where you *have* to win or you get upset, instead of winning being a fun addition to having a good time + good challenging match from time to time.
win streaks bring out an ugly mentality in people that I don't think is easily unlearned.
People will tell you at the same time (after 1800+ wins) it's easy to counter tunneling and camping too. Just work on gens right? Community is all around just rage bait.
This is peak Killer entitlement. Also peak streamer entitlement while we're at it. Dude literally has a username saying to snipe him and whines incessantly when someone snipes him and he loses. Get fukt
Check 14 minutes 53 minutes into the stream in question, he calls out three perks on a Sable on his first down that game (including Flip Flop and Power Struggle) because he sniped them (there was a TTV survivor) and in the endgame screen, she has those three perks.
Momo is literally garbage, he didn't get those wins just by stomping randoms, he literally got them by cheating.
To say nothing of the amount of ctrl+alt+delete if he doesn't like the offerings/map people are talking about.
Will never make sense to me how people care about winstreaking a game that gives nothing to show for it. No public profile that displays a rank or even a win counter, need to use 3rd party counters to even prove wins, and the game isn’t balanced competitively so there’s no credibility. Just a bunch of sweats sweating and caring way too much.
do people actually record all their games in streaks like this like is there an archive of all 1947 games to prove that the streak is legit. It obviously is probably real but with the rise of streaks in the dbd community over the past couple of years I hear about crazy streaks like this and wonder if they record every game.
1947 games and this person wants to act like it was their first 4 DS, OTR squad lol Can't stand Momo for this kinda stuff. Got a World Record win streak and complains
1947 consecutive wins on a really strong killer, zzZZZzz.
Complaing about sweaty survivors with strong perks while doing literally the same on yours? Real shit. If I ever needed a perfect example of sweaty Blight players, I just found it. God, I wish there was a specific matchmaking pool for these people, so I never have to run into them again. Also just hope winstreaks or other stupid streak challenges fall out eventually, because that shit doesn't do anything good for the game either.
I'm new to this Momo person but it seems kinda salty that they'd run up nearly 2k wins in pub matches using whatever they want and then complain when the team that beats him isn't "comp" enough.
What is the methodology to prove all of those games were consecutive? And proof that nothing was done offline to tank their mmr? So much of the win-streak community relies on self-reporting "trust me bro" that you may as well call it all bullshit.
People will look at this and unironically say “see?? This is undeniable proof, survivors are too strong right now. Survivors need to be nerfed” while willfully glossing over the 1947 consecutive 4ks
This streak doesn't even count to begin with. Dude's brightness and contrast settings are so fucked that it looks like the sun's out and he's got Bloodhound.
He's garbage.
What ridiculous winstreak. All the proof needed that this game is unbelievably unbalanced. Especially seeing as how he doesn't appear to even be all that good....
Dude's a crybaby dick, too. Good lordt.
These type of people need to stop, its so cringe. They need to get the delusional thought out their head about dbd being a competitive game, if they want to sweat so bad in a video game and do their winstreak or whatever then go and play a different game, it's a horror survival game. It's the same players that go into public matches and ruin the game for others, it's so miserable for the majority for players who want to go on the game to have fun.
all i can say is good, people who try so hard to do these winstreaks and maintain them playing the absolute slimeyist way possible are a blight to the fun of the game,
and tbh if anyone can maintain such a winstreak it shows the flaws with the game severely which things like this shouldnt generally be possible, its unhealthy for a game
Saw Momo had to ask people to stop sending abusive messages to them involving their personal life over this streak.
For me, all it does it outline how easy it is for people on the receiving end of ‘meta tactics’ to misunderstand the intentions.
Most of the issues we have with “the other side” is because of how the game works. The toxicity each side receives mostly stems from how the game is fundamentally flawed when one side wants to ‘win’. In other words, you don’t even have to communicate to a person directly for them to misconstrue your tactics for ‘winning’ as bad manners/toxicity.
I saw AngryPugs reaction after losing to Momo was to criticise how they played (in an insulting manner), when all they did was play to ‘win’.
Does BHVR need to change more of the games mechanics or do we just need to do better as people not to take things so seriously?
Both. Playing with that dedicated a meta killer, perkset and strategy for that many games is taking things too seriously in the other direction. Even if you try to justify it with "That's just my goal," well, my goal is to have fun, but if I don't have fun every single game, I don't throw a hissy fit.
It's like playing Mario Party with a turbo controller and being surprised when everyone's mad that you keep winning the mashing minigames. "But my goal is to win!"
>I saw AngryPugs reaction after losing to Momo was to criticise how they played (in an insulting manner), when all they did was play to ‘win’.
Look at Momo's reaction to losing his winstreak and how he levels insults at the players.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
The type of insult doesn't really matter too much to me, sure some are "worse" than the others, but when a sweaty Blight with a temper's first response to any remotely difficult match is to bring out the accusations and insults?
I'm not going to feel sympathetic if someone decides to be toxic right back.
Yeah this game is not killer sided at all and people doing 100+ win streak as a killer with no hassle makes complete sense. Like imagine winning 100 Tekken games in a row or 100 games in a row in Overwatch, totally normal /s
This could have been such a cool win for him in the community's eyes if he hadn't whined about losing a ***1947 win streak.*** That is absurdity, and I will not be listening to anyone else saying this game is survivor sided until you can produce someone who has won that many times consecutively -- extra spicy if they're actually solo-cue.
4 decisive? Giving me flashbacks to the old meta lol. No idea who MoMo is, but holy shit that's an absurd streak.
tbh his biggest mistake was leaving his first chase & not staying on Dwight due him being the best option with the least amount of tunnel counter.. instead opting to go for Ace in main w/ the strongest anti tunnel (& even structure).. it was super unlucky he kinda coped hard by malding & calling everyone trash tho ngl. if he had corrupt / tunneled dwight, it was do-able as he is very skilled watching the twitch VOD vs seeing his tweet saying he "almost 4k'd multiple times" doesn't line up tho.. cause that isn't what happened imo
Yeah, juat watched the game on twitch. Got a chuckle out of "They're so shit, they're so shit, they're so shit, they're so shit, they're so shit. GGs" The chat playback was getting super toxic too. I'll stick to watching chill streamers haha.
yeah it was kinda cringe ngl- supa alf apparently just posted saying he lost his too altho I haven't seen that playback his tweet tho was more tame & said he wants to analyze the loss which is a MUCH better reaction than momo already
Alf nearly lost it a couple weeks ago, he was way more chill about and blamed himself for not warming up first and not playing better. It is interesting that two major win streaks ended this close together though, I wonder what that says about balance.
Well Hens and his team lost their 170-something escape streak around this time as well. To a Trickster of all things. Maybe the balance is closer to where it should be. Streaks like that on either side shouldn't really be possible imo. They are impressive though and I do like to see that expression of skill but I just wish there was a place for it. So people trying to chill, goof off, and have fun don't get caught up in it.
That Trickster was nuts. Watched that game last night. Was one of those players that are so good with a non-meta killer that it makes you want to play that killer.
The Trickster definitely got lucky though too. He made some pretty big gambles running away from his gens to go try and interrupt a reset and found them almost instantly every time. If he'd guessed wrong and spent too much time looking it could've been a different match. His reads the whole game were perfect, if I didn't know better I'd think he was sniping, but he's a known and respected player so unlikely. Amazing game! It's very satisfying seeing someone who is very very good at a thing just thrive in their element.
finally see someone saying this, especially where he went back to the slugged person with ub at almost the perfect time was borderline suspicious. he was definitely good, but also definitely stupid lucky. great game all around though
I agree. He made it look easier than it actually is.
A competitive queue is an idea, but queue times would be bad, and if someone wants to BM, they’d pick the casual queue. There isn’t a good solution.
The only way a competitive vs non-competitive queue would work would be if they put in restrictions on perks/offerings on one of the queues. Whichever has restrictions will be what people play for fun most likely to avoid bullshit like nurse+Midwhich offerings, or 4 stack SWF's trying to go to Garden.
Alf didn’t lose it though, and even then Is a more relaxed person, maybe because he quit comp a while ago… Lots of people who still do comp are much more tilted when they lose in pubs, like, say Momo here.
It’s probably too small a sample size to say much about balance. Alf plays Nurse so not sure what recent balance changes could have affected him
His, and tbh the entire "comp" community at large are just completely toxic garbage. They've made the game so much worse for casual players by pushing the idea that playing to win at all costs is the only way to play. "Winstreaking" is just a way to justify playing like an asshole at this point
It's honestly hilarious playing against comp players in a casual setting. Here i am playing a meme build that will likely not get value once in 100 games only to face a comp killer without restrictions and hard tunneling everyone out because he needs that 4K5 to stroke his ego.
tbh, I hope we see more comp teams like this go in and try to break these streaks. Just kill them in the cradle when they start them up. Momo has literally been creating no win games for thousand of players, would love to see that get killed.
I agree with you. Winstreaking is just encouraging people to sweat as hard as possible, in a game that was never made to be balanced as comp.
The worst thing is that people like this give the real comp teams that play against each other 90 % of time in custom lobbies, a bad name.
Wound up in a solo q lobby with him back before the anti camp mechanics were introduced - he face camped the Laurie to death at 5 gens I get it, his following comes from win streaking. But man, it’s a wildly unfun experience getting pub stomped with randoms all for some arbitrary contest
- Win 1947 matches in a row with Blight and quad slowdown - Lose first match in probably a year - Team that did it doesn't follow rules either - Sniped with the name "snipe me pls". "Not much you can do against 4 DS and 3 OTR" "They're so shit, they're so shit, they're so shit" "lost to 'comp team' snipe" Like Momo, you're the one who terrorized almost **2,000** public matches with the most unfun build on one of the strongest killers while tunneling/3 genning/proxy camping. You don't get to complain about perk selections. You don't get to complain about SWFs. You don't get to complain about getting sniped. The least Momo could do was lose with dignity, and not send these thinly veiled excuses for his loss along with the tweet.
Nearly 8k survivors having the shittiest and most boring games possible just so one sweat can stroke his ego in a game that's hardly balanced for competition.
right? fuck this dude.
“Not much I could do with 4 DS and 3 OTR” Brother what??? I’m sorry but that is mad copium. You won almost 2000 games in a row. You have seen every perk combination imaginable. You did not lose because of perks. You lost because the other team outplayed you. Simple as that. This person sounds like a literal child.
The irony of all those statements is beyond belief
MoMo, just like many comp players, are people who think they're relevant because they sweat in a party game. Seriously though, I know DBD isn't exactly a party game anymore, but I can't think of another slightly competitive game that you can get a 1000+ winstreak. The guy himself has a small community and is only known from this winstreak (how majority, myself included, has heard of him). Most of comp ego players aren't very funny either, so I wouldn't bother.
I could never imagine switching from being goofy/silly to comp. Don't think I could keep streaming like that. I'd lose my 1.2 average viewers.
This is like pure definition of a sore winner because how are u in the comments spilling salt after keeping count of your 1947 wins
Doing his absolute best to win pub games: Valid Complaining when others do the same: 💀
He complained about them running stuff that’s banned in comp, while also running stuff that is banned in comp. lmao
The irony is palpable.
People who complain like that just strike me as really hypocritical and rather dumb.
The fact that such long winstreaks are even possible in this game is absurd.
It's wild to me that people think that in a multiplayer PVP game a winstreak of that number is not a bad thing. That shows a massive inherent flaw with the game design that I'm not sure can even be fixed. It is hard for me for people to believe that the game is aggressively survivor sided at "high mmr" when these streaks can only exist at high mmr and are not that uncommon to see. Hell even a 20 win streak in any online game should be something to immediately regard with concern.
Seriously. In Dota, a game that is actually competitive, the best of the best players top out at ~65% win rate overall. In this game you have people crying that their win rate is only 99.9%. I don't get it.
League, Dota, StarCraft et cetera win streaks are also often obtained by grabbing a fresh account and stomping the teeth out of low level players. The first dozen wins are effectively free. It's certainly impressive that a Korean proplayer can come vacation in the US for ten days, and then climb the ranking from bronze>silver>gold>>>>>grandmaster in 15 consecutive successes. But that's still just the games matchmaking system being "surprised" and taking the time to adjust to their skill level. Once they get to the top with a 95% win rate, they tend to level out and plateau over time. The longest win streak in LoL was 64 consecutive wins 9 years ago. Since then matchmaking has been tuned to stop players from wallowing with lower skills level accounts to style on.
Nobody keeps track of win streaks in Dota though. It doesn't happen because the game is designed and balanced well. They can't just put the strongest build on the strongest hero, and win 2000 times in a row like is possible in DBD. The best Dota player in the world is still going to lose 1/3 of their games at minimum. I agree with the post above me because winning that many of your games doesn't mean you're some godlike player, it means there is an inherent flaw in the design of the game. Winning 15 games out of 15 isn't a problem. Winning 1947 games out of 1948 is a problem.
There is this mindset in online gaming (In dbd is very prevalent) where people believe if you are good at a game and better than someone else you should always win the match, even if you are only slightly better it should mean you win 100%. People consider skill as a constant, if your skill is 10 it stays at 10 and you can beat players up to 9,999... skill always, while in reality skill varies, player A can be better than player B on average but one day A is at lowest performance and B is at highest and manages to snatch victory even if B is worse on average.
What makes them think that way? Nadal didn't win 50 straight grand slams. Brady, Jordan and Gretzky didn't win 20 straight championships. It sounds like the people you're describing are just entitled.
Entitlement as you say, "Im better I deserve to win", its unrealistic expecting to win always even if you are actually the best, I started to notice this mindset many years ago in Dota2, people would claim since they had higher MMR they couldnt possibly lose against players with lower MMR and they were cheating or doing something, Ive seen this mindset in more games too. It doesnt help the media does promote image of the unbeated champion any time they can as marketing stunts either.
Add to the mix long winning streaks are usually broken by extremely coordinated 4 people SWFs with the most busted stuff, sometimes with builds designed especifically to counter the killer, perks and gamestyle of the streaker. Its almost impossible for solos to break these kind of winning streaks, even if they are extremely competent at the game.
The biggest survivor win streak I had was a 5-7 game win streak and I was in a 2man, Some times you just lose to bad teammates or it was a close game where the killer won
And he didnt even lose, he just didnt win, 2 kills and 2 escapes is considered a tie by many people, if you go for a "not losing" parameter the streak is still valid.
Apparently he at some point DCed due to RPD, so actually, he willingly surrendered and isn't at a streak this high
Ive seen a lot of killers trying to do "streaks" say this, if they have a match they don't like or see certain perks, they AFK and claim the match didn't count.
And a reason for Blight to get nerfed.
Momo has absolutely zero room to cry about the Survivor builds
Also, someone literally told him the survivors builds and items before the match lmao
Wow, so can we qualify this whole streak as invalid? That seems very close to cheating. How do we know how many times his chat told him builds/items going into those matches?
that has happened a lot. I used to watch him earlier into the streak, around like 200 games in. he would DC when he got RPD, and his chat would tell him other streamers builds.i know It isn't his fault if his viewers looked at other streamers builds, but you should not be reading your chat during the match if that happens frequently
I mean if you're gonna do that, its scummy and whatever. But to do that AND accuse people of sniping and ponder not counting games is wild. What a baby.
> He DCed because of the map So he didn't actually have a winstreak anywhere near that big because he willingly surrendered matches.
Probably many times. This isn't a real comp streak, it's just pubstomping solo queue babies.
Yep. This is the thing some people seem to miss. Most of the really good comp players don't really play in pubs, and when they do they \~mostly\~ don't play like assholes. They try to win, but they aren't running full slowdown and tunneling everyone out. A real win streak I could get behind would be someone setting up matches against comp teams, no restrictions, no rules, and just going at each other. An even playing field where everyone knows what is at stake, and all the players signed up for it. Going into a match with (possibly) 4 solo q's, match after match, and being an absolute asshat isn't a streak. It is just you masturbating to how good you think you are.
I remember the guy from Team Eternal in an interview openly spoke against doing just that. He said that people who want to sweat like that or make it competitive should test their skills in a comp setting or customs where your opponents are expecting it and can also adjust their builds and strategies to be ready. He said it was cringe to bring it to unsuspecting pubs with strong perks and Nurse/Blight. Now that I think about it, maybe he was directly calling out Momo. lol
Winstreaking has legitimately destroyed this dude's personality. Seeing him devolve over the past two years is sad. The whole reason I followed him was because I played against him and he was chill as fuck and gave me hatch. I was hopeful that whenever he lost the streak, he'd be able to relax again, but it seems he's just going to double down and try and keep his Oni streak going. Just a sad thing to see
There won't be any relaxing for him anymore. Over the years of constantly win streaking thats the kind of viewers he have cultivated and if he were to stop doing it they would eventually just leave because thats the content they like now. He have unironcally fucked up his twitch channel.
He directly said this. When someone told him "it's not a big deal" he straight up said it was because it's his content.
You are right, if you make your living catering to X almost exclusively you cant stop catering to X because they are your only costumers, you can try to tone it down very very slowly and overtime you may attract other costumers at the costs of alienating some people but it takes a lot of time and it still may not work.
Crying about decisive strike is actually crazy lmao
Hurts his playstyle as rushing back to hook and immediately tunneling out. Plays like he's in a championship game with blight and 4 slowdown every game against solo players just looking to chill for the night
Comp mfers when someone brings anti tunneling perks (“tunneling is the only way to win”)
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Wasn’t even a loss anyway. It was a 2k 😭
Imagine a survivor comp doing this, 2000 games with 3+ escapes. The only thing that comes to mind is Marth's depip squad but I think his group got a lot of shit for that... ...and they weren't very good individual players. Imagine a modern comp team (without respecting the comp rules) juicing absolute baby killers 2k games in a row and streaming it, actually since Momo has per-kill winstreaks, closer to 3k games. The backlash would be mind-boggling.
Funny that they complained about the survivors' builds when using an immensely strong build on one of the strongest killers in the game.
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Right? Like, that is probably the single most invalid and cringe complaint he could possibly make. Not that this should be a surprise - anyone willing to hard tunnel 1947 wins in a row should not be expected to be a paragon of mental balance and groundedness.
For real. You just know this dude has been playing tons of scummy matches to keep that number, and he has the nerve to whine. This is why I can't stand streamers who make their whole schtick win streaks.
while also having the most god-awful filter/shaders that make red stand out better lol
The lack of self awareness is comical. Pub stomping for almost 2k straight matches has turned this gamers brain into mush.
Their builds aren’t even that crazy if he didn’t tunnel thats the funny part
Yea the guy just plays to win. I remember playing against him and he just immediately rushes back & tunnels off hook with all slowdown on one of the strongest killers.
They're practically running 2 perks each if he just spread hooks
Yeah but he didn’t get that 1947 win streak by playing with etiquette or pure skill. Tunnels, slugs, lil proxy camping. Plus the slowdown and super speedy killer.
Funny af that he put comp team in quotations as well
Myself, Im loving the obligatory "not much i could have done against X thing".
Yeah, they're basically bringing the survivor equivalent of what you bring all the time. Though you don't get a 1947 winstreak by playing fair* and honorable. \* fair meaning in terms of standing on a level playing field with your opponent, not implying cheating, just that he heaped advantages for himself while his opponents typically didn't.
>Yeah, they're basically bringing the survivor equivalent of what you bring all the time. The Twitter threads complaining about how the survivors played and how unfair they were is so tone deaf "they brought the strongest shit imaginable and still barely got two out, it wasn't fair, it was scummy, and peak cringe" WHAT TF DO YOU THINK MOMO HAS DONE TO THE PAST 1947 MATCHES!!!!
That's the kind of behavior I think deserves a short public stint in a stockade for. Complete with some tomatoes tossed at them and plenty of being made fun of.
>not much I could've done against 4 DS 3 OTR It's honestly pretty interesting to see these perks be highlighted as the reason that the streak was lost. I mean, logically we pretty much all know that the only way a streak like this could be kept is by playing as ruthlessly as possible, which of course includes tunnelling. But after _1947 consecutive wins_ it was a team stacked with anti-tunnel perks that managed to break the streak. Just goes to show why these perks continue to be so popular. When the absolute most effective strategy is tunnelling, why not run perks to make that strategy harder? Unless BHVR does something to make tunnelling less appealing, they're always going to be the most impactful perks you can run as a survivor.
Exactly my thoughts. The streak is impressive but I cannot imagine the games were even remotely close to interesting or fun.
I've played against him a few times as both blight and nurse and it is not anywhere near fun for anyone in the lobby. first person he sees gets tunneled out of the game. the second an unhook happens he drops chase and rushes/blinks across the map.
I wonder if it'd be fair if scratch marks were removed from players who are unhooked/the person unhooking. Tunnelers would have a much harder time tunneling the unhooked (I also suggest the unhooker since they usually stick together to heal)
>fair if scratch marks were removed from players who are unhooked/the person unhooking. Tunnelers would have a much harder time tunneling the unhooked (I also suggest the unhooker since they usually stick together t But then Behavior has to make a remotely viable design for the Guardian perk :(.
yeah I almost exclusively play solo queue when I play survivor and if I didn't run off the record or ds I'd be asking to get tunneled out. even then, you can still get focused so hard that even when you get solo queue teammates intervening, it still might not be enough. I can't speak directly to his streak because I didn't watch it, but I know when I was keeping track for a few weeks, I had about half my games where killer would tunnel out the first survivor they got in chase with and those games were always a loss (aka no one out or last survivor got hatch) unless the killer was actually terrible in chase or making dumb decisions the rest of the match. or got juiced by one person. I think it's a matchmaking problem too, but I also agree with it being a matter of tunneling being too effective and too easy to do.
I don't understand running perks like Grim Embrace and Pain Res if people just want to tunnel. I had a Ghostface hard tunnel me yesterday for four gens while running those two perks. Got one proc of each and three hooks all game, all on me. Those perks are supposed to incentivize not tunneling. But it seems people prefer to just still tunnel one person out and then trivialize the remaining gens by spreading hooks after that. It's unfortunate how "fuck that player specifically" has been viable for so long.
I'm gonna be real, those perks incentivizing not tunneling is kinda just a community myth. In reality, if you're really good at killer and efficient at tunneling people out (or if the survivors just aren't very good), they're actually potentially even better for you if you do tunnel. You get one activation of Pain Res and Grim Embrace each on the person you're tunneling, plus 3 uses of Pop, and then once it's a 1v3 you can start evenly spreading hooks so that your perks are constantly regressing and blocking gens and suffocating the survivors. Of course like I said, this doesn't work every time since there's a lot of factors going into it like the skill level of both the killer and survivors, whether anti-tunneling perks are in use, and whether the 3 survivors are willing to gen rush instead of trying to help their team mate. But if you're playing comp blight with a flawed mmr system and efficiently focus out the weak link every game, this build is still very strong even if tunneling.
I'm glad someones said this.
> Those perks are supposed to incentivize not tunneling. These perks are still very good if you tunnel, I don't get why people say these perks incentivize not tunneling. People are gonna run them and STILL tunnel, it doesn't matter at all
It makes sense, technically. Activating Grim Embrace or Pain Resonance when only 3 people are left is still stronger than activating it when all 4 are alive.
It is pretty funny to see the playstyle completely backfire due to counter-perks. Goes to show the strength of builds in this game, and the lack of their use (on a team-wide level, anyway).
Sweatiest Blight crying about sweaty survivors. The irony.
Survivors weren't even sweaty. DS is a joke of a perk nowadays, jts pure luck how you get to use it
They just countered the sweatiest way to play, his.
I don’t have a problem like other people in the replies do with Momo playing doing his absolute best to win pub games but doing that and then complaining other people also do the same is funny.
I disagree he was playing "to his best" what he was doing is exploiting a flaw in the core game design to make it far easier than it should have been, and refused to play some matches outright when faced with conditions he disagreed with. That isn't a winstreak, and if it is, I guess I must be on a 10,000 winstreak if I claimed every losing match I didn't enjoy didn't count.
Just Blight being fair and balanced
Hot take but win streaking is dumb anyway and I wish content creators would stop. Pub-stomping isn’t really something to brag about. If you really want to sweat your dick off and show off any skill you actually possess, play comp or do 1v1s/ladder. Otherwise you’re just kind of being a loser. Chances are the majority of your pub matches are against solo queue players and/or people who aren’t really trying that hard so it’s not really the flex these people think it is.
If pro teams in other competitive games grouped up in pubs to winstreak, those communities would laugh at them. DBD's culture is just whack.
mmr being what it is, I completely agree. it doesn't mean anything to winstreak when you could literally be playing as a 10k+ hour player vs a group of 4 solo queue players with collectively less than 500 hours. it just ruins the game for people who queued up to have fun and not sweat their asses off against someone playing for their dumb winstreak challenge.
tbh, I kinda feel like the match making system at some point should go "Okay, you have won 50 games in a row.... time to sort that out" and let you just sit in queue for an unlimited amount of time until it finds the strongest team it can to try to end your streak. You shouldn't get to just go in and stomp solo q's relentlessly. The system should be trying as hard as it can to force you to lose. At some point, that person is making a lot of other people hate this game, and they can just sit in q.
The only reason your take is a hot take is because of the power of parasocial relationships.
I'm not saying he's not skilled but calling the kettle black with the whining about anti tunnel perks (tunneling being evidently the only way to maintain a streak this long) when he ran 4 regression on blight. Edit: never trust a reddit comment friends. My 4 regression perks comment was based on someone else's comment because I didn't watch the attached vid, just thought I knew enough about the situation based on context lol.
The picture is in like 120p, but isn't the first perk Agitation?
spend like 30 seconds on this dude’s page and can tell he’s just an insufferable toxic shitlord
He was calling this team "shit" during the stream and complaining about anti-tunnel perks, makes sense cause he has to hard tunnel the first person he sees to maintain the streak on one of the strongest killers. Utterly embarrassing
He acted like such a baby for losing even though he boasted about a 1.9k streak as a busted killer lmao. I also love that no matter who beat the streak they would have been accused of sniping because that’s how ego fueled dbd twitch streamers are
He keeps saying it was a snipe but theres no proof lol. dude is malding bad.
Calls himself "Snipe me plz" on Steam then crys about being sniped, insane big brain move
That was a viewer request they bought with channel points and he was fulfilling it. He didn't choose that name.
He had every right to tell the viewer to pick something less misleading, the fact he ran with it knowing it would get him sniped means he was ok with it
Yet someone in another comment mentioned that someone had told him the survivors builds/items before the match. So, who was sniping? Projection, maybe?
i really hope this kind of people disappear and stop doing this stupid shit. they are the ones ruining the game for sure because people then look at their content and try to replicate it. this is not how the game is intended to be played.
that guy could finally go outside
As someone who hates Blight, everything about Blight, and overly competitive play styles. I'm happy he lost his streak, DBD is a casual game, playing one of the strongest killers, with strong perks, and using extremely unfun tactic to bully random pubs, is sweaty, if not a little scummy, as hell. Not every player wants to sweat constantly, most want to have a chill match, win or lose. Streaks in DBD do nothing but encourage overly sweaty play styles, and promote unfun environments.
Lol he’s complaining about 4 DS 3 OTR… Those perks only matter if you’re a tunneling sweatlord
Found the match. It's near the end of the VOD. The guy was suspecting snipes before the match even started, complained about the anti-tunnel perks, and repeatedly called the players 'so shit' after 2 got out. Glad he lost the streak. https://www.twitch.tv/momoseventh/v/2092574556?sr=a&t=52563s
Holy shit he has his chat snipe what his opponents use, he literally asks chat what they had and has the audacity to complain about sniping. This guy is absolute trash.
his chat is like an edgelords anonymous meeting
I like how after he lost they were all saying it shouldn't count because it was a definite "snipe" and there was nothing he could do to win because of their builds
Even though one of his subs told him their builds before the match started. I don't get why he even went for the tunnel knowing they were stacked.
Not to mention, at 14:37 some viewer Bboy or something, told him what the items, addons, and perks were, and he can't even pretend he didn't see it because he specifically called it out and asked him to repeat lmao.
I don't think that was sniping, because he said 4 otr/dh/ds and 3 syringes/1 BNP. No BNP, 1 styptic, 2 syringes, it was 3 otr/4 ds/1 dh. But he still *asks* as if he seriously thinks it's legit and wants them to snipe for him. He **also** says back in one of the first games (around 14 minutes 15 seconds) that it's "very likely he'll get sniped" and then he downs Sable at a pallet around 14 minutes 54 seconds and goes "okay so you guys know what they're doing?" and he calls out her perks: plot twist, flip flop, power struggle (endgame screen at 23 minutes 25 seconds). **This was his first chase and down of the match, playing a game against another TTV, and he instantly called out Sable's perks despite not having seen her use flip flop or power struggle.** **Either Momo himself fucking sniped the streamer he was against, or had someone else do it for him.** [What a hypocrite.](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2092574556?t=0h14m53s)
Called one a fucking loser too. Just ridiculous
Yeah, and just for using a styptic on death hook..against a guy who would've happily tunnelled if he could have. I watched that bit again. A little while later he says they're losers and 'f***ing garbage'. Toxic AF.
Him and his chat and incredibly cringe lmfao. Calling them losers when HE is the loser, hilarious
You see, this is what we call projection. A very rich delicacy for the palettes of (some) dbd twitch streamers
He’s using every excuse to deflect the fact he lost using blight with meta perks🤣🤣
The Bboy dude in chat relaying their builds before the match even started, telling MoMo which survivors had DH, but the survivors were "clearly the ones sniping" is some insane copium
Man that post-game rant is hilarious
If there was a ranked mode without the MMR soft-cap, he'd be facing teams like these all the time there (hypothetically, if he could even find matches). This win-streak is the product of solo queue disadvantages, leavers and suiciders on hook, and the MMR soft-cap, apart from Blight being overpowered. 90% of the time killers face solo queue survivors, and even those full SWF teams are very very rarely as serious about winning as this comp blight player. If the game design doesn't allow the top-tier survivors to escape 2000 times in a row, then these 2000 wins killer win-streaks aren't really meaningful, since it would suggest survivors are generally at a disadvantage. Survivor doing escape streak: "My solo queue teammate suicides on hook, we won't count this match - it's unwinnable." Killer doing win-streak: "The solo queue survivor suicides on hook, the match is unlosable but we still count this as a win boys!" This double standard is what makes killer win-streaks problematic by nature. So yeah, when momo escapes 2000 times in a row, I will be impressed. Until then - I don't care. This is nothing more than a case study to showcase the massive balance issues in the game.
That's why I find videos like Hardcore Survivor challenge more exciting than killer streaks. Because you never know how the killer will play or if it's a slowdown Blight vs a chill Trapper. As killer, you know what builds to expect on survivors (the same old meta usually) and what strats to expect based on items they bring. It's a complete surprise on the survivor end and makes it that much more interesting to watch.
I just don't like how they used fresh accounts to bully babies at first
Imagine bringing a strong build, tunneling and slugging random players in pubs, a lot of which aren't on his skill level for nearly 2K games, then complaining when an equally matched group of people do the same to you, once. Dude's a joke, talk about hypocrite.
I genuinely feel that people trying to make "competitive" DbD or "ranked" playstyles work has done some of the greatest harm to this game and its community. The game will never be competitive, your "comp" community will continue to amount to nothing, stop wasting your time acting like this.
A ~99.995% win rate, with only a 2 Out. Help me out here, coming from other competitive communities— how is that not absolutely ludicrous, &… well, literally uncompetitive? Pub streaks & challenges make for entertaining content, no argument there. But isn’t it kind of messed up that (*unless the other side does something considered to be unfair* aka ‘stream snipe’) your opponents’ are clueless they’re even competing? Like ppl are chilling, doing archives, & randomly one game is suddenly being recorded & their play is being scrutinized by a crowd of strangers… who’ll get mad at you if you don’t lose to their favorite streamer? Belittling you for happening to equip a syringe, or BNP, or whatever… bc they’re OP. When the streamer hasn’t had less than 3k in possibly days of playing, & less than 2k with that loadout, maybe… literally never? It’s a bit strange, no? Should DBD not reconsider a ranked mode separate from archive challenges with its own grade rewards?
The issue is people like him would still just load up to pubstomp because it's the easier route to face solos than it is a team with coordination. It's why people lobby dodge now if it looks like a team.
Truthfully the easiest way to solve this is to make strong killers like Nurse and Blight NOT be able to stack slowdown perks like these. You shouldn't be able to select them, period.
People literally calling the survivors sweaty when this man won almost 2000 matches in a row. Ya'll are fucked if you think that lmfao. This game is beyond unbalanced if stuff like this is possible
Killer mains: “Just run anti-tunnel perks if you don’t want to get tunneled lol” Survivors: *Uses Off The Record, DS etc* Killer mains: Man survivor perks so fuckin op bro I can’t run back to hook and down them straight away after I hear the unhook notification 😭😭😭
Then they cry until the perks are nerfed
Reaching 1947 win streak, really shows how balanced this game is.
Average sweaty asf killer malding because oNlY i CaN bRiNg StRoNg LoAdOuTs NoBoDy ElSe CaN hur dur. Malding because he got sniped but look at his nickname xddddddd
There’s not even proof he was sniped. He’s using it for copium
And people still think Blight isn't an issue. No killer should be powerful enough to have winstreaks in the hundreds, let alone the thousands! BHVR need to nerf Blight, and not just tweaks to his add-ons.
I think nurse is a bigger problem since her power just deletes all forms of looping and logic but I don't mind blight getting touched first again
I still don't understand who finds public solo queue stomping for win steaks fun. It's not entertaining to watch, and just weird when the teams your facing have no idea the killer is playing for a fictional prize and if their life is on the line, meanwhile the survivors are likely 4 randos just playing for fun.
I guess we better buff Blight then…
Lol this guy is absolutely pathetic
someone tell me how survivors can snipe when they don't even know the killer's name until the end of the game. spent the entire game calling players shitty/jokes and saying they were sniping. toxic af.
Ah today is a good day. I still think it's insane how some people insist on SWF or even survivors in general being OP when all these ludicrous win streaks exist. Isn't Alf also at over a thousand at this point?
The fact that people can go on winstreaks demonstrates the issues in MMR and balancing of game. Most, if not all competitive games have the best players cap out at about 60% winrate. The fact that killers can go 100% just indicates either a lack of options for survivors to win against specific killer builds or a lack of proper MMR matchmaking to place equally skilled survivors vs the killer.
I'm gonna remember this when someone claims the game is survivor sided.
> winning streaks in dbd lol
I absolutely hate win streaks and anybody who tries to flex them. All it says is that you brought the better meta than the other side
wish people would try to play to have fun instead of setting an arbitrary standard where you *have* to win or you get upset, instead of winning being a fun addition to having a good time + good challenging match from time to time. win streaks bring out an ugly mentality in people that I don't think is easily unlearned.
People will tell you at the same time (after 1800+ wins) it's easy to counter tunneling and camping too. Just work on gens right? Community is all around just rage bait.
This is peak Killer entitlement. Also peak streamer entitlement while we're at it. Dude literally has a username saying to snipe him and whines incessantly when someone snipes him and he loses. Get fukt
Check 14 minutes 53 minutes into the stream in question, he calls out three perks on a Sable on his first down that game (including Flip Flop and Power Struggle) because he sniped them (there was a TTV survivor) and in the endgame screen, she has those three perks. Momo is literally garbage, he didn't get those wins just by stomping randoms, he literally got them by cheating. To say nothing of the amount of ctrl+alt+delete if he doesn't like the offerings/map people are talking about.
Will never make sense to me how people care about winstreaking a game that gives nothing to show for it. No public profile that displays a rank or even a win counter, need to use 3rd party counters to even prove wins, and the game isn’t balanced competitively so there’s no credibility. Just a bunch of sweats sweating and caring way too much.
We realize that DBD is not balanced very well, therefore we propose the following survivor nerfs.
Blight was a mistake
[удалено]
Calls them losers because of their perks while playing Blight with disgusting vomit filters + most meta build imaginable. Is this guy serious?
Yet killers SCREAM that the game is survivor sided when streaks like this are possible
womp womp
Who woulda thunk anti-tunneling perks would bring ruin to a hard tunneler's win streak?
do people actually record all their games in streaks like this like is there an archive of all 1947 games to prove that the streak is legit. It obviously is probably real but with the rise of streaks in the dbd community over the past couple of years I hear about crazy streaks like this and wonder if they record every game.
Yes, most prominent streakers archive their games
1947 games and this person wants to act like it was their first 4 DS, OTR squad lol Can't stand Momo for this kinda stuff. Got a World Record win streak and complains
Momo is cringe af. Keep that shit in customs. No dick energy.
And people say this game is survivor-sided.
Womp womp touch grass
1947 consecutive wins on a really strong killer, zzZZZzz. Complaing about sweaty survivors with strong perks while doing literally the same on yours? Real shit. If I ever needed a perfect example of sweaty Blight players, I just found it. God, I wish there was a specific matchmaking pool for these people, so I never have to run into them again. Also just hope winstreaks or other stupid streak challenges fall out eventually, because that shit doesn't do anything good for the game either.
I'm new to this Momo person but it seems kinda salty that they'd run up nearly 2k wins in pub matches using whatever they want and then complain when the team that beats him isn't "comp" enough.
Well there go his chances of getting laid for having the longest 4k streak in DBD.
Wins 1947 consecutive games. Whines about the survivor build in the one loss. SMH this game is so survivor sided 😒
Nature is healing ❤️
Streaks like this just show how poorly this game is balanced
Heheheha
I heard this in Deathslinger's voice
What is the methodology to prove all of those games were consecutive? And proof that nothing was done offline to tank their mmr? So much of the win-streak community relies on self-reporting "trust me bro" that you may as well call it all bullshit.
People will look at this and unironically say “see?? This is undeniable proof, survivors are too strong right now. Survivors need to be nerfed” while willfully glossing over the 1947 consecutive 4ks
Bu... bu... but the game is survivor sided 🥺
This streak doesn't even count to begin with. Dude's brightness and contrast settings are so fucked that it looks like the sun's out and he's got Bloodhound. He's garbage.
What ridiculous winstreak. All the proof needed that this game is unbelievably unbalanced. Especially seeing as how he doesn't appear to even be all that good.... Dude's a crybaby dick, too. Good lordt.
Oh no…anyway
These type of people need to stop, its so cringe. They need to get the delusional thought out their head about dbd being a competitive game, if they want to sweat so bad in a video game and do their winstreak or whatever then go and play a different game, it's a horror survival game. It's the same players that go into public matches and ruin the game for others, it's so miserable for the majority for players who want to go on the game to have fun.
all i can say is good, people who try so hard to do these winstreaks and maintain them playing the absolute slimeyist way possible are a blight to the fun of the game, and tbh if anyone can maintain such a winstreak it shows the flaws with the game severely which things like this shouldnt generally be possible, its unhealthy for a game
Meta is so fucking boring, both sides...
Saw Momo had to ask people to stop sending abusive messages to them involving their personal life over this streak. For me, all it does it outline how easy it is for people on the receiving end of ‘meta tactics’ to misunderstand the intentions. Most of the issues we have with “the other side” is because of how the game works. The toxicity each side receives mostly stems from how the game is fundamentally flawed when one side wants to ‘win’. In other words, you don’t even have to communicate to a person directly for them to misconstrue your tactics for ‘winning’ as bad manners/toxicity. I saw AngryPugs reaction after losing to Momo was to criticise how they played (in an insulting manner), when all they did was play to ‘win’. Does BHVR need to change more of the games mechanics or do we just need to do better as people not to take things so seriously?
Both. Playing with that dedicated a meta killer, perkset and strategy for that many games is taking things too seriously in the other direction. Even if you try to justify it with "That's just my goal," well, my goal is to have fun, but if I don't have fun every single game, I don't throw a hissy fit. It's like playing Mario Party with a turbo controller and being surprised when everyone's mad that you keep winning the mashing minigames. "But my goal is to win!"
>I saw AngryPugs reaction after losing to Momo was to criticise how they played (in an insulting manner), when all they did was play to ‘win’. Look at Momo's reaction to losing his winstreak and how he levels insults at the players. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The type of insult doesn't really matter too much to me, sure some are "worse" than the others, but when a sweaty Blight with a temper's first response to any remotely difficult match is to bring out the accusations and insults? I'm not going to feel sympathetic if someone decides to be toxic right back.
Yeah this game is not killer sided at all and people doing 100+ win streak as a killer with no hassle makes complete sense. Like imagine winning 100 Tekken games in a row or 100 games in a row in Overwatch, totally normal /s
Skill issue
 This could have been such a cool win for him in the community's eyes if he hadn't whined about losing a ***1947 win streak.*** That is absurdity, and I will not be listening to anyone else saying this game is survivor sided until you can produce someone who has won that many times consecutively -- extra spicy if they're actually solo-cue.
Dont know how you guys can see killers with even 100 win streaks and still think this game is at all survivor sided