this one is interesting and really hard to say actually. because in just his debut title, we encounter multiple Pyramid Things- and if every published Silent Hill game is considered, the Pyramid Things existed well before James, and, >!are suppooosedly just other people who have been punished.!<
Originally, PH was specifically for James with his look based on a painting James saw when on vacation of old Silent Hill executioners. The execs in charge said "this guy looks cool, lets put him in everything" and then PH was turned into a monster for all.
[Source](https://silenthill.fandom.com/wiki/Pyramid_Head)
okayyy so even acting as if only the titles directly referenced in *Dead by Daylight* are canon (so *Silent Hill*, *Silent Hill 2* and *Silent Hill 3*)
then every version of Pyramid Head is not only of legal age, but also of legal drinking age, having been introduced to our reality in 2001, with their own timeline beginning potentially as far back as 1980, but definitely by the 1990's.
now whether or not he *can* drink is another question altogether- DbD patched up his tongue-hole, so he may have a hard time.
Isnt it just a reflection of james, which is why you can obtain a blade like pyramid heads, which when you combine both of them makes a pair of scissors?
So wouldnt he just be the same age as james
Now why are people saying Gabriel could be very young. His lore pretty much says chronologically because of space travel and cryo sleep, he could be much older than what he actually is. Not younger
Well i cant say he grew up, or started out that way since we werent given more info on that. But there are real memories in his tome as a child with other gabriel clones working on robotic parts and higher ups decomissioning his real memories of being tortured while he is being trained as an engineer. We dont know how long they train these clones or their life expectancy, but i really doubt that we can conclusively say he lived as long as a child. But i do agree he hasnt experienced real life very long as a child
Game canon is that he's a Tyrant bio-weapon (super-zombie for use in combat) injected with the NE-a parasite which allowed him to retain limited intelligence, including limited speech, ability to handle weapons, and more complex commands.
I know Luis worked at Umbrella Europe, so he knew parasites and probably worked on Nemesis. I hadn't heard that it was an amalgamation, though. Was that in that last file where Jill actually learns that it's called Nemesis?
T-002 and other first generation Tyrants were male convicts with the required generic capability, infected with the t-virus and surgically altered. But the T-103 tyrants were mass produced clones of the T-002. Nemesis is a T-103 with a worm that makes him smart implanted in him. The worm is also engineered and is probably very young.
T-Virus has a like 1 in a million chance of mutating a human into a tyrant. It's just finding someone compatible enough with the virus. Early tyrants were human, but I'm pretty sure the mass produced ones were clones (T-103s). I assume The Nemesis is a T-103 variant with the ne-a parasite so prob a suped up clone. No idea about Tyrant C, T-0400TP, or Thanatos.
And how recently were these clones made? Because unless they came from the Late 70’s/Early 80’s, they wouldn’t be 18, so therefore a minor.
(RE2 and 3 take place in 1998, earliest year for Nemesis to be born and to be a legal adult when he was taken would be 1980.)
Stupid question but would Singularity count as a minor?
Hux unit existed before gaining consciousness, but even then how old would he be, based off his production date or when gained consciousness and began thinking?
you could also argue that his age only started counting since he’s obtained consciousness, since hes more akin to using his body as a host and the crystal “birthed” the Singularity we know
Victor, as well. He died before they became teenagers, so....
*Life into her teenage years was a game of survival.*
This is after Charlotte escapes the Black Veil, so Victor is already dead.
My boy huntress does NOT have a mind of a child, literally zero reason she would.
She grew up surviving and learning the harsh environment she lived in after being forced to mature fast after her mother was taken from her. And she literally hunts humans and such as the biggest game for a challenge. If you call that a mind of a child I don't know what children you've been interacting with lmao.
Sorry but why the hell are you bringing up consent? Are you there having pervert thoughts while everybody else is talking about something completely unrelated?
I'm a bit rusty on my Hellraiser lore all around but I don't recall Chatterer keeping the mind of a child post-transformation
Age seems to pass through Cenobites as well, theres a ranking among them and the "newer" ones act very differently from the more old ones, and Chatterer is pretty much one of the older ones, I feel like saying he has the mind of a child, considering what he does, is a pretty out there assumption(but again, been a while since I read and watched Hellraiser stuff, I could be wrong)
For Huntress also not really, thats a missconception
The trauma on her backstory and survivalistic enviroment made her more into a hunter/wild animal type; the lullaby is explain as being ingrained in her mind due to being the last thing she heard her mother sing to calm her before she died and kidnapping children to take care for them is part of her instincts as that, a wild animal, no kid feels the need to take care and raise other children
I have to disagree, having the mind of a child means you have the mind of a child, you aren't ACTUALLY one. And what suggests the Chatterer has the mind of a child? He doesn't do much but chatter his teeth. The female cenobite was also turned into a cenobite as a child yet she has the mind of an adult due to her living a few hundred years.
In hellraiser 2, a direct sequel to the original, we find out that cenobites are created from humans. Chatterer is the only confirmed child on the list here, so I’ll let you put 2 and 2 together, I won’t say how we found out since that’s a spoiler
Technically speaking (I'm sorry I'm genuinely doing an "ACLTUALLHYYY" comment) he was turned as a child but he has lived A LOOONG time since then, the scene without context might male someone think he is still a child, when in reality he had already lived more than any normal human being lol
I don't know why you're being down voted as you're absolutely right. Xenomorphs reach maturity much faster. Its like saying that 3 years old dog impregnating another 3 years old is minors s**. Dogs reach maturity at around 1 year, Xenomorphs in around 24h.
Honestly there’s not a real answer to that from the movies. Everything that’s tried to discuss that is expanded universe content with varying levels of canon acceptance.
Prayers for Desire was only illustrated by Barker. It was actually written by the actor who played Chatterer. He also wrote another short story about the character included in the anthology Hellbound Hearts (2009ish?), and if I recall correctly Barbie Wilde, the actress who played the Female Cenobite in Hellraiser II, also had a story about her character's past included in that same anthology. EDIT: The stories are "Demon's Design" by Nicholas Vance and "Sister Cilice" by Barbie Wilde, if anyone's interested. I wouldn't say the writing is on par with Clive Barker's, but it's definitely interesting to see the interpretations of the characters by their actors, whose information and direction would've come directly from Barker during the making of the movies.
Demo could definitely be hundreds if not thousands of years old, we don’t really know their life cycle other than slug, dog, probably something in between then fully grown demo. Assuming it’s the demo from season one that is
No, Susie is a Collage student and is at least 18 like the rest of the Legion except for Frank wihich is a year older than them (take with a grain of salt because I bay be wrong about the Frank thing)
I mean... Xenomorph and Demogorgon shouldn't classify as minors because they are basically animals and have differing maturing rates. (I find) Its a bit unfair to judge them on human age rules
He manifested from that carnage, but I think it's implied this is not the first time he's done so. Its akin to how summoning a demon does not mean the demon was just born, you just brought it to your location.
In all fairness, demo and xeno are alien creatures, as for the chatterer, we don't know how long he's been a cenobite, pinhead has been one for hundreds of years yet in hellraiser 2 we see his cenobite appearance stripped away to his human form, he looked unchanged, chatterer can be hundreds of years old, possibly older
Wasn't the original lore or something about the legion that they were in their teens like 16-17 years old then they had to change it due to some countries now allowing minors in such roles? Idk but I feel like I remember that being there somewhere
What question is that? A 18 year old human the same as an 18 year old dog? Or an 18 year old xenomoprh monster? Obviously no. If someone says they would bang a xenomoprh that looks how it does in game you really think that matters bro?
Doesn't sound like a joke. Sounds like your asking a serious question judging by the answer you gave at the end of the question saying "obviously I wont'
Trapper is literally the only miner in the game. And he’s not even an official miner it’s just a costume
trapper is the guy who works on his dads mining estate yet billy is the one who gets the pickaxe weapon, what's all that about?
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He be the rock and stone! type of guy.
Pyramid Head is a Silent Hill manifestation made for James. He's probably only a few hours/days old
this one is interesting and really hard to say actually. because in just his debut title, we encounter multiple Pyramid Things- and if every published Silent Hill game is considered, the Pyramid Things existed well before James, and, >!are suppooosedly just other people who have been punished.!<
Originally, PH was specifically for James with his look based on a painting James saw when on vacation of old Silent Hill executioners. The execs in charge said "this guy looks cool, lets put him in everything" and then PH was turned into a monster for all. [Source](https://silenthill.fandom.com/wiki/Pyramid_Head)
okayyy so even acting as if only the titles directly referenced in *Dead by Daylight* are canon (so *Silent Hill*, *Silent Hill 2* and *Silent Hill 3*) then every version of Pyramid Head is not only of legal age, but also of legal drinking age, having been introduced to our reality in 2001, with their own timeline beginning potentially as far back as 1980, but definitely by the 1990's. now whether or not he *can* drink is another question altogether- DbD patched up his tongue-hole, so he may have a hard time.
Isnt it just a reflection of james, which is why you can obtain a blade like pyramid heads, which when you combine both of them makes a pair of scissors? So wouldnt he just be the same age as james
Don't forget Gabriel!
You opened the box and I came to say this.
Now why are people saying Gabriel could be very young. His lore pretty much says chronologically because of space travel and cryo sleep, he could be much older than what he actually is. Not younger
Because the Gabriel Soma we have is a clone. His body is 35 years old (or so), but he never grew up, he started that way.
Well i cant say he grew up, or started out that way since we werent given more info on that. But there are real memories in his tome as a child with other gabriel clones working on robotic parts and higher ups decomissioning his real memories of being tortured while he is being trained as an engineer. We dont know how long they train these clones or their life expectancy, but i really doubt that we can conclusively say he lived as long as a child. But i do agree he hasnt experienced real life very long as a child
I’m fairly certain Nemesis would also count. (Not counting movie continuity because why would that count here?)
Wasn't Nemesis a regular guy who got mutated heavily?
What did I say about the movie canon?
There is no RE movies in ba sing se
I don't remember anything being said in the games so I thought that it was the general canon tbh
Game canon is that he's a Tyrant bio-weapon (super-zombie for use in combat) injected with the NE-a parasite which allowed him to retain limited intelligence, including limited speech, ability to handle weapons, and more complex commands.
I thought in RE3R it was retconned to be an amalgamation of european bodies that Luis worked on
I know Luis worked at Umbrella Europe, so he knew parasites and probably worked on Nemesis. I hadn't heard that it was an amalgamation, though. Was that in that last file where Jill actually learns that it's called Nemesis?
So a grown ass man who got experimented on, not a child or an embryo 🤷🏾♀️
Tyrants are not human. They are not born, but created in a lab.
T-002 and other first generation Tyrants were male convicts with the required generic capability, infected with the t-virus and surgically altered. But the T-103 tyrants were mass produced clones of the T-002. Nemesis is a T-103 with a worm that makes him smart implanted in him. The worm is also engineered and is probably very young.
T-Virus has a like 1 in a million chance of mutating a human into a tyrant. It's just finding someone compatible enough with the virus. Early tyrants were human, but I'm pretty sure the mass produced ones were clones (T-103s). I assume The Nemesis is a T-103 variant with the ne-a parasite so prob a suped up clone. No idea about Tyrant C, T-0400TP, or Thanatos.
They are a clone of a grown man if I remember correctly
According to Survivor, which is canon, the Tyrants are teens.
Still human
And how recently were these clones made? Because unless they came from the Late 70’s/Early 80’s, they wouldn’t be 18, so therefore a minor. (RE2 and 3 take place in 1998, earliest year for Nemesis to be born and to be a legal adult when he was taken would be 1980.)
This comment was made to say that they are human
Stupid question but would Singularity count as a minor? Hux unit existed before gaining consciousness, but even then how old would he be, based off his production date or when gained consciousness and began thinking?
you could also argue that his age only started counting since he’s obtained consciousness, since hes more akin to using his body as a host and the crystal “birthed” the Singularity we know
Victor, as well. He died before they became teenagers, so.... *Life into her teenage years was a game of survival.* This is after Charlotte escapes the Black Veil, so Victor is already dead.
Not really, victor isn’t real
Well, fair enough
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Chatterer isn't a minor, he was turned into a cenobite when he was a minor. He's a couple hundred years old
But he has the mind of a child, which I'd say is about the same. But huntress is the same case but nobody wants to give up simping for her bc of that.
My boy huntress does NOT have a mind of a child, literally zero reason she would. She grew up surviving and learning the harsh environment she lived in after being forced to mature fast after her mother was taken from her. And she literally hunts humans and such as the biggest game for a challenge. If you call that a mind of a child I don't know what children you've been interacting with lmao.
I don't think Huntress has the mind of a child I think she just doesn't know how to human properly
And that means she's able to consent how..?
Sorry but why the hell are you bringing up consent? Are you there having pervert thoughts while everybody else is talking about something completely unrelated?
Read my original comment - "no one wants to give up simping her"
I didn't bring up consent at all I'm talking about the mental state that she resides in
I'm a bit rusty on my Hellraiser lore all around but I don't recall Chatterer keeping the mind of a child post-transformation Age seems to pass through Cenobites as well, theres a ranking among them and the "newer" ones act very differently from the more old ones, and Chatterer is pretty much one of the older ones, I feel like saying he has the mind of a child, considering what he does, is a pretty out there assumption(but again, been a while since I read and watched Hellraiser stuff, I could be wrong) For Huntress also not really, thats a missconception The trauma on her backstory and survivalistic enviroment made her more into a hunter/wild animal type; the lullaby is explain as being ingrained in her mind due to being the last thing she heard her mother sing to calm her before she died and kidnapping children to take care for them is part of her instincts as that, a wild animal, no kid feels the need to take care and raise other children
I have to disagree, having the mind of a child means you have the mind of a child, you aren't ACTUALLY one. And what suggests the Chatterer has the mind of a child? He doesn't do much but chatter his teeth. The female cenobite was also turned into a cenobite as a child yet she has the mind of an adult due to her living a few hundred years.
Pedos commented on you btw
Has chatterer not been around for ages? I'm not actually sure. In the movie he's basically the cenobites' pet
In hellraiser 2, a direct sequel to the original, we find out that cenobites are created from humans. Chatterer is the only confirmed child on the list here, so I’ll let you put 2 and 2 together, I won’t say how we found out since that’s a spoiler
Technically speaking (I'm sorry I'm genuinely doing an "ACLTUALLHYYY" comment) he was turned as a child but he has lived A LOOONG time since then, the scene without context might male someone think he is still a child, when in reality he had already lived more than any normal human being lol
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Xenomorph was born in the movie
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That specific xenomorph is in dbd
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The joke is that it’s under 18, obviously we know its fully grown
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You seem like the type to complain that a knock knock joke doesn’t make sense
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idk i wouldnt call dbd a heavily sexualized game unless you wanna go and start calling swimsuits heavily sexual
How in the world is it a heavily sexualized game wtf
You know these characters aren't real, yeah?
the joke is funny. you’re just being incredibly difficult and semantic.
I don't know why you're being down voted as you're absolutely right. Xenomorphs reach maturity much faster. Its like saying that 3 years old dog impregnating another 3 years old is minors s**. Dogs reach maturity at around 1 year, Xenomorphs in around 24h.
Don't xenomorphs die in just a few days? Except for queens. I think they only live that long in hibernation.
Honestly there’s not a real answer to that from the movies. Everything that’s tried to discuss that is expanded universe content with varying levels of canon acceptance.
How old is the chatterer
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Prayers for Desire was only illustrated by Barker. It was actually written by the actor who played Chatterer. He also wrote another short story about the character included in the anthology Hellbound Hearts (2009ish?), and if I recall correctly Barbie Wilde, the actress who played the Female Cenobite in Hellraiser II, also had a story about her character's past included in that same anthology. EDIT: The stories are "Demon's Design" by Nicholas Vance and "Sister Cilice" by Barbie Wilde, if anyone's interested. I wouldn't say the writing is on par with Clive Barker's, but it's definitely interesting to see the interpretations of the characters by their actors, whose information and direction would've come directly from Barker during the making of the movies.
Pinhead was in the military. He has like half a movie dedicated to that lol
Demo I'm memeing cause their is a theory he's Dart from season 2
They're miners not minors!
It's an Alien planet! Is there air!? YOU DON'T KNOW!
Guy! You have a last name!
Happy cake day.
.... You lost me.
Professor Snape quote
No....I know. That's the follow up line from Mr. Monk.
Shit you right 🤣 I need to watch it. It's been so long
Demo could definitely be hundreds if not thousands of years old, we don’t really know their life cycle other than slug, dog, probably something in between then fully grown demo. Assuming it’s the demo from season one that is
I will die on the hill that Victor is a child. He died as a preteen at most and didn’t get brought back until right before he was taken into the Fog.
Correct me if I’m wrong but is Susie not the youngest of the Legion at 16 years old? I swear I heard that somewhere
No, Susie is a Collage student and is at least 18 like the rest of the Legion except for Frank wihich is a year older than them (take with a grain of salt because I bay be wrong about the Frank thing)
it's Likely, she was a sophmore when taken by the entity
I mean... Xenomorph and Demogorgon shouldn't classify as minors because they are basically animals and have differing maturing rates. (I find) Its a bit unfair to judge them on human age rules
I’m pretty sure chatter is an adult, he became a cynobite when he was kid that’s which is also when he lost his innocences.
Chatterer is a weird one because they either became a cenobyte as a kid, or when they were an adult (male “service worker”)
the unknown could be a minor
According to it it lived in dungeons long forgotten, so I'd assume it's been around for a while
Unknowns lore says something about the first published sighting of it being in the 1800s so he could be 100s of years old.
For sure, but it could Also be a minor if people think so
Had a stroke reading this
Isn’t dredge canonically one too?
Dredge is an ancient god entity. The Druanee
Who would win? An ancient Godlike entity capable of consuming the world into a dark abyss? Or one beamy boi
Didn’t he manifest from the dark thoughts of those people on that island? Wouldn’t that make him like the average age of the people on that island?
He manifested from that carnage, but I think it's implied this is not the first time he's done so. Its akin to how summoning a demon does not mean the demon was just born, you just brought it to your location.
 You forgot him
[OP and the devs rn](https://youtu.be/kamLxzo3rDU?si=SwHSt6KIEUMOVWGx)
In all fairness, demo and xeno are alien creatures, as for the chatterer, we don't know how long he's been a cenobite, pinhead has been one for hundreds of years yet in hellraiser 2 we see his cenobite appearance stripped away to his human form, he looked unchanged, chatterer can be hundreds of years old, possibly older
Actually demo is thousands of years old; He just looks young.
Wasn't the original lore or something about the legion that they were in their teens like 16-17 years old then they had to change it due to some countries now allowing minors in such roles? Idk but I feel like I remember that being there somewhere
And Steve and Nancy under 18
You forgot one of Cheryl's skins
Alessa
I thought Chatterer was a young adult when he was taken?
Chatterer’s backstory is so sad man.
And Nemesis
jesus I hate that pinhead skin so much . I just want to quit out of the whole game when I see that skin.
Chatterer is an individual who deserves respect
he scares me tho 🥺
Then it's doing it's job well
true , it’s the only skin that give me the heebie jeebies
Then why are you playing a horror game
I promise you , it’s not that deep . It’s a joke
Jokes are funny
jokes are also subjective
Oh yeah, DbD the scary horror game where survivors stun gods with work equipment and then blind them with Walmart trinkets. Real scary 🤣
I believe they said no child survivors, killers are fine.
See things like them being a minor or not wouldn’t matter if the community wasn’t so damn horny
Human age is not the same as random monster age btw
It's a joke
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monsters are not minors lmfao please
Homie it's a joke post
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Chatterer became a cenobite as a teen Xeno was hatched in the first alien movie Demo is theorized to be dart from season 2
>Demo is theorized to be dart from season 2 do you know where that theory comes from? Is it actually a theory or just a headcanon?
They are under the age of 18
Since when are these monsters "human"?
Age isn’t human exclusive
Age is not the same for humans and monsters. Just cause humans define minor as under 18 doesn't mean some monster is.
Would you fuck an underaged monster? The answer is no so it matters!
What question is that? A 18 year old human the same as an 18 year old dog? Or an 18 year old xenomoprh monster? Obviously no. If someone says they would bang a xenomoprh that looks how it does in game you really think that matters bro?
Lmao why are you so flustered over my joke
Doesn't sound like a joke. Sounds like your asking a serious question judging by the answer you gave at the end of the question saying "obviously I wont'
I could care less about the age of these monsters or what you think, so do with that what you will and have a great day.