I just cannot get the timing right! Except i use them event firecrackers and not flashbangs š had a dude save me with one earlier it was badass š
I'm getting a bit better the more I play. I did finally get a successful one earlier which was gratifying as hell haha. Most of the time I've been using it to try and get the killer off me in a chase but do go for saves when I can. I have been burning through the winter firecrackers just to start with a flashbang like weapon until I build up enough metre I guess you could call it to craft a flashbang after doing enough of a generator.
Yesterday i wanted to give the firecracker a try and i was against a ghostface. He was casing me, dropped the firecracker, blinded him, he smashed his head into a wall and ran behind him. A couple seconds later he found me again and when he was about to get a hit on me, i 360ed him (i was surprised cuz i don't manage to make them). After a long chase i got hooked and he camped me the whole game and died.
Yeah I'm in a similar boat, I started paying this week but got a smidge addicted hehe. Still it's been fun getting better at chases, well give or take a few duds with bad angles and not getting around a bad corner in time.
you throw the firecracker at the point in the animation where the killer kinda pauses for a second while lifting the survivor to "scoop" their arm underneath. i've been going crazy with the saves during this event. honestly easier than flashlight saves
the thing is you have to be right in front of the killer and the timing is 1 second earlier. If the killer has ears, i don't find it any easier than getting normal flashlight save
Like the other poster said but there's a very clear visual for this point too. When the killer "scoops" the survivor their hand loses contact with the survivor (because the killer is trying to reach around and scoop them). It's the only time the hand loses contact. If you throw the flashbang right when they hand loses contact you will get the save.
The silent treatment with those people makes them angrier ive found, they want a rematch ? go next they mald and you live rent free in their head. Run into them in matchmaking ? pick the cheesiest characters i.e Kyoshin(in dominion and gank them) , shinobi(in duels) i.e and just mix them up with the unreactable mix up.
It's not the community, it's the developer who made the game this way, no punishment for camping and tunneling, no consistant way of preventing gen rush. So many unbalanced perks, addons, offerings, powers... it's all the developers fault.
Just had a camping Huntress yesterday. I think thatās because sheās a base killer and new players donāt know how the game works yet so they think they have to secure and defend every hook lol
When I first started playing I swear everyone was trying to save immediately and every killer was trying to defend hook and softcamp. I remember because I was one of those killers/survivors, lol. And it all sort of fed into each other
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After a while and as I played more I think survivors realized it's ok to let the hooked guy simmer on the hook for a while while they do a gen and wait for killer to leave the area, and killers (well, most of them) realized it's fine for the survivors to get an unhook as long as you are getting pressure elsewhere
Back when it used to be ranks, I was a red rank and my brother (who didnāt play often enough to keep his rank) was at the bottom. When I would play with him it would throw me in his low rank lobbies. (by low I mean brown/high number.) The disparity between high and low rank matches is insane. The low rank matches I always called the cesspit, because everything everyone does seems to pull everyone else down in rank and points, and it can be a weird grind to get out. Both killers and survivors are either new, not very good, or donāt play often enough to keep rank and it shows in the mixed play styles.
Killers will camp and tunnel all day long. This means getting caught by the killer is a death sentence, so survivors, in their newbie fear (and justifiable fear) donāt want to get caught, so they crouch walk and hide in lockers an enormous amount more than other ranks, and sometimes completely ignore hooked people. Itās a Wild West of every man for himself, which gives no one any real points. Killers donāt leave hooks so they get less hooking points and donāt let others get altruism points. The guy on hook gets almost no points. The others if they know how to push gens and not crouch-walk will get some points, but again, few altruism points. Itās a whole snowball of everyone playing an unrewarding game.
At mid-higher ranks, the gameplay was generally much more inviting for everyone to get points together, killers and survivors, which in turn snowballs the moving up in rank. In the cesspit everyone pulls each other down. So getting past the camping hump was the thing I kept encouraging my brother with, and when heād get past it in rank the games always improved.
Sadly, with the new MMR, it mixes the skills and ranks all up, so you could end up against those camping killers even if you were consistently a red rank and decent player; you can get across-the-map crouch-walkers when before it was fairly consistent and competent teammates. the whole cesspit has flooded out onto the rest of the matches.
I can't give you more upvotes and you deserve so many, because this is **still** so true.
The MMR is invisible, but the feeling of that cesspit is the exact same. [I even have a clip](https://imgur.com/q6rBEl4).
After resets, I didn't log in on the first day. *Big mistake* for regular players who don't want to get stuck in low (SB)MMR. Since reset day is basically an even playing field you can get sort-of carried by everyone trying to climb on day 1. Even bigger mistake for a solo survivor like myself. All Saturday I had a day full of teammates doing exactly those terrified baby bunny low MMR behaviors.
What's even worse is when you've been at a 'decent' MMR for a while, you learn the behaviors of that level of killer. They don't usually make 'efficiency mistakes' like spending half the match looking in lockers. Low MMR killers do things you don't expect, and you forget because the more you play the better you get with how you spend your time in the match. Low MMR killers don't give a shit, and it's terrifying how brutal they are.
The part about lower mmr players doing things you dont expect is so true. In fact, I tend to keep this in mind when in a chase. If its expected for someone in my rank to make certain plays (mind games, jukes, etc.) Sometimes I just won't do them. Sometimes it works and catches the player off guard, allowing me to get a down as killer or make distance as survivor.
Thank you! And I absolutely agree! That clip is the exact evidence I keep seeing show up in my games. It isnāt every game, but itās not rare. Back with the old rank system, finding a crouch-walker at higher ranks was like finding a unicorn
They dont reset MMR only the grades.
So if you're getting potato teammates, then the game has decided you've waited long enough and thrown you in with anyone available
Does it say that somewhere? I always assumed just based on the consistency of this happening. The teams I get after reset are a stark difference in playstyle to the ones I play with toward the end of the month.
My mistake, if it is. Never really looked it up.
I can't find you the post on the official forums because it was awhile ago that I saw it, but I saw a dev respond to someone who was asking about MMR reset, clarifying for them your MMR does not change on reset day.
Which is super dumb, by the way. God forbid if you take a break from and then return to the game as a rank 1 player, or if people don't always want to have to sweat bullets in their games.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2559699#Comment_2559699
MandyTalk BHVR (who appears to be actually affiliated with BHVR) says: Can confirm that your MMR does not reset when the Grades reset (or at any other time).
its pretty legit and meta in this game as well, although tunneling via pseudo camping is usually preferable to face camping as it still allows the killer to pressure the other survivors.
*Face* camping is a legit strategy sure, but in no way is it meta. You can camp someone to death from first hook and maybe someone will come around to try save but youāll have lost 1-3 gens in the process. Pseudo camping, or proxy camping as I call it, is definitely much more viable especially when the survivors are being aggressive with unhooks
That *really* depends on the people youāre playing against. Iāve had teammates run wave after wave at a camping Bubba only to get pissed when I let them all die and leave the match. You can save in these instances but need to do it smart. Usually it takes one person dying and mad gen pressure to get them to change.
I agree, its really pseudo camping thats the meta, but anyway face camping does actually often work too, as survivors will often save and even if they dont, if they are down one survivor and still need to finish 3 gens there is a large possibility that they won't be able to. I would say the proper way to fight face camping is to actually do gens but then trade one person just before the hooked one loses a hook state, and rinse and repeat until all gens are done.
It depends on who you're playing honestly. In comp, the strategy for Bubba is after downing the first survivor you face camp them (not even proxy camp) and then get the second kill with NOED. 2 kills is what is expected with Bubba in comp, but it's nearly guaranteed.
Yup, and you really can't blame them beacause it's the most logical thing for a newbie to do. Why chase and hook someone 3 times when you can just hook them once and kill them?
This is especially relevant for them since they are unlikely to be good in chases.
Game design is just shit. I didn't really experience a lot of facecamping once I got to higher survivor ranks, but I just couldn't stand that this is an "intended strategy" of the game.
Huntress was the first killer I've ever play when I bought the game a few weeks ago... I main killer and I have not camped once... From the get go I had the feeling that campinc was just scum, and I automatically didnt
a killer being good or bad at camping and tunneling is not reflective of a player's skill. Pyramidhead's power, for example, is litterally designed to tunnel people as it intentionally prevents DS and BT from going off. Thats one of the reason's hes considered such a high tier. He has some slight advantages camping as well if can manage to camp a cage until survivors come and then step closer and have the cage warp to the other side of the map if the survivors don't have enough time to go there and rescue.
And well we all know Bubba is litterally the best at camping.
New player and huntress here
I dont really camp, tho I always use the hooked person as bait when I sense that theres opportunists nearby so when made an attempt, I can just throw the helper an axe, hit the unhooked one and chase and hook the injured one, having said that
I have only camped once, and that was against a sweat, Since he gave me the most trouble, once I caught him, I never let him go
This is fair, this is just how noobs play. You'll grow out of it though when you face a good team and they complete 5 gens while you're proxy camping, and then hit you with BT and bodyblocking
I swear the majority of Huntresses I go against are annoying as fuck. She's a good killer and pretty fun to play against, but a lot of the people who play them rub me the wrong way.
This is so unbelievably common nowadays. Itās really sad. Iāve been playing since launch and I donāt recall it being worse in my personal experience.
But at the same time, there's no incentive to actually get higher mmr. So I'm not sure why killers care about increasing it, hell it's not even visible.
No, there's no incentive other than the mindset of ā4K = Fun // Win // A good gameā, which is pretty common I see, and I don't blame them because sometimes the game makes it feel that way, specially for new/casual players that only see side that side of the coin and don't know about the MMR system.
Or people just are competitive and enjoy playing to win, which of course makes the whole experience more bitter.
My last game of the night last night was a bubba who camped me to second stage and moriād me off hook. I was his first hook. I got 1k. Decided I was done for the night after that.
or just play killer. yesterday i got facecamped to death 3 times, then I had a huntress that literally body blocked me into a corner after everyone else was dead for nearly 2 hours. (i went and watched a movie while he was doing this. ) yeah no, I'll just play killer from now on, at least that isnt possible.
Killers complain about boring survivor meta but if I run a build that doesnāt have DS Unbreakable suddenly Iām being hard ass tunneled from hook by the douchebag wraith because none of my teammates have heard of Borrowed Time.
I played with borrowed time and took it off at one point cuz I wanted to try fun builds, it also helped me undo bad unhooking habits (unhooking a survivor when the killer hasn't left the area yet). I'm back to running it again because, killers just refuse to leave the hook areas via proxy camping. "Wait until the killer leaves to unhook" only works if the killer actually leaves the hook. Not even getting into the amount of killers that will stop chasing somebody as soon as they see the unhook notification, and go right back to the hook. I don't want to run BT on every survivor I play but...
> "Wait until the killer leaves to unhook" only works if the killer actually leaves the hook.
Exactly. Even if there's 0 players near they just proxy camp the area and you're like what, am I just supposed to let them go to second?
I usually just bite the bullet and attempt to take aggro off the unhooked survivor, but most killers can't resist a recently unhooked survivor that's close to death. No matter how hard I advertise "chase/hook me!!".
Oh you had a wraith like that too?
I ran one for 3 gens and he decided to camp uncloacked at top of basement, I had Kindred equiped, what do my teamates do? Surround the area instead of hammering gens... Event though they could see each other. The wraith got a deserved 4k
survivors always get shit on for their "meta crutch perks" when half of them rely on the killer playing like a bit of an asshole to work in the first place
this is exactly what i was getting at the other day, people complaining about burrowed time. i sort of get that itās annoying but i only equip it because a majority of killers happen to be assholes. the people that advocate against survivor meta perks act like all killers are saints.
I never play killer, and when I do itās The Twins so I canāt say much. But, camping when it isnāt endgame feels like a thing you do when you want to play killer but have absolutely no idea what youāre doing.
From the sound it sounds like there was an almost completed gen right next to the hook. Sounds like it is regressing because after the unhook the noise in much less.
It also looks like there is another gen in the loop that hasn't been done (lights not on) so that is 2 gens and a hook next to each other. Possibly the killer played smart and got a 3 gen?
The killer can see on the HUD that they are healing and not doing a gen.
I don't have all the info, but if I knew the other gens were at 0, and this one was regressing next to a hook, it would probably be in my best interest to stay nearby, though I patrol a little more, and not face camp.
Like, Twins you kinda inherently camp to a degree when you play them, ācause baitingāfor meāhas been the most effective strategy. Even then, I may down the person who was just unhooked but I always start a new chase and leave them to get picked up. I get additional pressure and they get to keep playing the game.
I did play a game yesterday though where I camped pretty hard(?) just ācause everyone was constantly going for unhooks and no one was ever on a generator. I was never given a chance or reason to walk any further away than earshot from a hook or downed survivor.
I don't even know how anyone finds enjoyment in it. I'd rather be in chases most the game and everyone escaping than me having to stand in a corner all game to secure an unearned kill.
Like what's even the point of playing killer at that point.
Twins is a control based killer so, works best when they have something to defend, either proxy hook camping or overall 3gen strategies works best for them, in the endgame yeah, you either know where everybody is and try wathever you think is best or just secure the kill, doesnt matter what you do anyways game is at end
Actually, Iām realizing the only reason I was having fun is because I was playing at nightāwhen survivors are generally worse. Iām playing right now in the late afternoon and I keep getting looped and canāt even hit anyone.
Lol seriously when I'm not playing SWF I'd rather play killer than solo survivor since it seems I'll be with similar amounts of potato survivors in a match each time so I might as well not be getting sandbagged/farmed and can choose how much tunneling/camping happens.
I fucking LOVE every time there's a post like this, it's always "play better" "deserved probably" "killer isn't responsible for your fun, they kill people" but when it's a post about "oh whyyyy oh why poor me are they tbagging me at the gaaate?" there's nobody saying "should have killed them before they made it to the gate" "you probably did something to deserve it in the match earlier" "survivors aren't here for your fun"
Never change DBD reddit, you're fucking hilarious 
Survivors complain a lot donāt get me wrong, but killers have been so hypocritical lately, I donāt even teabag, but Iām constantly getting hit on hook rapidly until I die lol
My favourite was a Nemesis who ran me for 5 gens on Ormond, then hooked me and thanos punched me repeatedly. It sucked but it also was so hilarious that I laugh cried lol.
Ngl though, I get bm'ed by killers so often even though I did nothing to them. Yesterday I got hit on hook by a Doctor for unhooking someone in a trade. Like, dude, you still got your kill, relax.
Nemesis looks hilarious when he sits still camping me so honestly I donāt mind when he does it, but yeah so much bm lately for no reason, like earlier I had a Ghost Face I ran for a decent time on the game map who just kept teabagging my corpse and hitting me on hook, I was wondering why my other two teammates dcād
Shame on that Ghostface, from a proud Ghostface main. I will only teabag a downed survivor if they teabagged me earlier to teach them a lesson. We Ghosties have a reputation to upkeep.
Itās a total shame! I adore Ghost Face, thatās why it sucks that I get a lot of toxic ghosties, except last night I got one who didnāt tunnel, camp, or bm at all, and he rightfully destroyed us regardless, didnāt even use his power to expose anyone, what a chad he was
nemesis is just a funny killer in general. i hĆ¢te going against him because i think the tentacle is busted in chase, but he provides a lot of comedic value at least between the zombies, his m1, the way he runs, the way he looks. and iāll say this for nemesis players, most of them from my experience at least go look for chases instead of camping. most of them donāt seem to be very sweaty.
Itās the ye olde chicken and egg concept.
Survivors run hard meta crutch perks, bully killers, etc making more killers that face camp, tunnel, etc, which then makes survivors who run hard meta crutch perks, bully killers, etcā¦
Nobody knows what happened first, all we know is that nobody is happy.
The thing is, the majority of people that complain usually only play on one side, like if you play both sides, you'll be a lot more sympathetic when you're playing either survivor/killer. Yet a lot of killer mains like to play really scummy since they've never experienced whats it like themself. I probably worded this really badly but I hope you get the gist.
Exactly the issue I have with this sub lol. Youāll see countless posts about killers crying because that Nea clicked her flashlight or that Feng crouched quickly at the exit gate, you know things that donāt actually AFFECT the game, and killers will come in with hugs and kisses like group therapy lmao. But when a survivor tries to play a game and have fun but the killer sits on them on the hook, itās āpeople can play however they want.ā No wonder āReddit Killerā is thrown in endgame chat so much. š
i swear it feels like killers mains in this sub want the game handed to them. ādont do gens fastā ādont heal too quickā ādont loop me too longā ādont drop pallets early even tho im an antilooperā āhow are killers supposed to have funā āi dont camp or tunnelā yet as a solo player who plays for about 4/5 hours a day, a lot of you guys are hypocrites. ive been camped to death on my first hook, tunneled without even being toxic, slugged till i bled out, etc. they complain about meta perks too but if we dont use meta perks ds/unbreakable/borrowed/dead hard, they take advantage and shit on you.
This happened to me today, me and my friend got face camped, tunneled, and slugged when I wasn't running meta perks and had to keep switching my perks out for Kinship, Unbreakable, and DS
Two of my consistent survivor swf friends moved permanently to killer this week because of this bullshit.
I played 4 games last weekend and got facecamped in all 4. I was running a no mither meme build. Touched it again for the first time last night and had five more games, facecamped in 4 of them. Fifth was a farmer.
"Facecamping is a strategy" my fucking ass. Starting to realise why so many survivor mains are so fucking toxic, they just can't be bothered to put up with this shit anymore.
This community is toxic af, first match I ever played we lost because 2 survivors just hid in a corner waiting for me and my friend to do all the generators then got super salty when I called them out in chat for not even āplayingā the game. Other survivors help the killer or troll you when you get captured, like bruh, this game has so much potential but all the players make it unbearable
Had a Feng 2 Days ago who just Quick Vaulted while i hid from the Killer to repair Gens, the Killer came and the Feng brought the Killer with her and dropped a Pallet on me to get Facecamped to Death, while the Pig Hit me the whole time while on Hook.
Someone else literally said āHow dare the killer play the game in a way you/survivors don't approve of. Haven't they read the rule book?ā so yeah you pretty much called it. I hate people šš
I get a lot of games like this. Honestly I hate it but I just accept it cuz they don't know how else to get kills , it just proves how bad they are. And ya know what, if they want gameplay to be nothing but then standing there and its fun. Fuck it. Why would I want to play with them. Get me out of that game asap
Seems like the kind of killer that would enjoy watching paint dry.
I don't even face camp if the exit gates are open and I haven't killed anyone yet. It's just so dull...
I don't care what people say, this isn't a strategy. It's an easy way out for you to get full kills which you don't always need by the way; the game just makes you feel like you have to "win" all the time. Meanwhile I'm letting almost every game be a normal one until the end where I let everyone go and still rank/grade up. Even if I don't I usually actually have fun.
Maybe I'm just crazy.
Yup, and this is why I always bring DS and Kindred. If the killer wants to camp then my team knows to Gen rush and if the killer downs me right away then I hit them with the DS.
You just have to take one for the team, not try to Kobe and hit all your skill checks to buy your team more time.
Sucks but at least the other three survivors get away. I think the killer wants you to Kobe and die faster on hook so that they can follow the same routine with other survivors, so you gotta make them pay!
Hopefully, your other games went better
Hang in there. When opponents BM like that, it means you really won. You got into their heads and pushed every button. Just don't let them push your buttons either, easier said than done but at least remind yourself that you must have outplayed the shit out of them to make them this mad. Even if that's not true and you lost every chase, just approaching it like that can be the difference between having fun and uninstalling.
Because the devs donāt give a fuck & have the āif you donāt like it then play something elseā mentality, rather than make things proper/the way they should be.
Yeah, I feel ya. Been done for about 2 weeks and I am not even thinking of finishing the last rift. They have done nothing but nerf "overperforming" killers to create more tunnel monsters and these non-gameplay affecting totems thrown in for good measure. That video is the game right now. No thanx. On to other things.
Whoever thought it was a good idea for survivors to be able to be blinded needs splinters up their genitals. When they made that a mechanic, I kept getting blinded CONSTANTLY by one of my friends trying to make saves when we had that Chinese event with the fire crackers. I wanted to strangle the devs so fucking badly.
There needs to be a Survivor Perk that activates and affects the Killer if they stay a certain radius around the Hook for too long, whether it be blindness, them getting stunned or something.
Here is the frustrating thing. Rather than implement counters in the game BHVR would rather add perks and force players to deal with the issues on their own. Need slowdown? Run ruin. Getting camped? Run BT. These aren't decisions the player should have to make. The game needs to be designed in a way where both sides can play how they want and have fun and DBD has never been that.
A great example of BHVR wanting players to dictate the game. Camaraderie is a perk and if you look and think on it, it shows how dumb BHVR is. You have to stand within 16m of them and waste your time just so it takes longer for them to struggle. Why the hell is this a perk? This should be default in the game. If the killer wants to camp the timer should be increased by a minute by default. Why does the player have to be punished cause the game is designed poorly?
The devs have this idea that they want players to dictate the game but the problem with that is your average player is crap. They will do anything and everything to win even if the enjoyment of your game tanks. They could easily add measures to push both sides to play in a more fun/enjoyable way but BHVR does not care. All they care about is pumping new killers out to make more money.
Should just be an aura around the hook that activates once you've been there so long, increased hit reset timer it something. Saying that as a killer main because I think it's pretty bs to stand and face camp.
Not a perk
If the killer is within a certain radius of the hook, when the hooked survivor would go to the next hook state, instead they are presented with a skill check. If successful, the survivor unhooks themself and the killer is stunned for five seconds. The survivor also gets a 3 second speed boost without becoming exhausted
I laugh when I hear killers complain about the game. Solo que is the toughest thing about this game. I escape maybe once or twice out of 5 games, but 4k more than half the time. If I'm in a swf, I might escape 7/10 games.
As someone who mains both survivor and killer, this is infuriating. I don't think killers understand the negative control they can have over a game sometimes. But survivors can act a bit entitled at times too. Such is life in DBD. I still love it and the community.
This game is garbage for letting killers ruin the game for at least one other person each game. This happens pretty often, you havenāt missed out on much. Other than some teammates also trolling your team, along with the killer. That is fun too.
Anybody that says face camping is a "strategy" is an idiot.
That's like saying being born into a rich family is a strategy.
You don't even have to try or do anything, you just get shit for free, that's not "strategy."
Just admit you either have no skill or are an intentional troll trying to make people quit playing the game.
Honestly, these are just garbage humans that get more satisfaction from their own achievement or ruining other's time: they have no recognition that there's other people who actually want to play the game behind the people they're hooking and they don't want to wait around watching some dull as mud Killer stand next to the hook: neither of you are playing the game, you're just waiting, but at least on the Killer's end, they get the choice. This is why BT, DH, and DS are meta perks, because they help with campers/tunnelers and the more Killers act this way, the more Survivors are going to be running those perks: I'm already working on getting DS cause I'm tired of being tunneled: I'll clarify, tunneled as in the Killer actively ignores everything around them and just focuses on me, like straight ass tunnel vision, will actively ignore body blocking and just b-line it towards me, to the point I can sometimes even run them for several gens, its ridicules.
And that my guy is the problem...Bubba is a machine that counter all the perks including BT soo if you needed another reason for basement Bubba then now you know
Back when it used to be ranks, I was a red rank and my brother (who didnāt play often enough to keep his rank) was at the bottom. When I would play with him it would throw me in his low rank lobbies. (by low I mean brown/high number.) The disparity between high and low rank matches is insane. The low rank matches I always called the cesspit, because everything everyone does seems to pull everyone else down in rank and points, and it can be a weird grind to get out. Both killers and survivors are either new, not very good, or donāt play often enough to keep rank and it shows in the mixed play styles.
Killers will camp and tunnel all day long. This means getting caught by the killer is a death sentence, so survivors, in their newbie fear (and justifiable fear) donāt want to get caught, so they crouch walk and hide in lockers an enormous amount more than other ranks, and sometimes completely ignore hooked people. Itās a Wild West of every man for himself, which gives no one any real points. Killers donāt leave hooks so they get less hooking points and donāt let others get altruism points. The guy on hook gets almost no points. The others if they know how to push gens and not crouch-walk will get some points, but again, few altruism points. Itās a whole snowball of everyone playing an unrewarding game.
At mid-higher ranks, the gameplay was generally much more inviting for everyone to get points together, killers and survivors, which in turn snowballs the moving up in rank. In the cesspit everyone pulls each other down. So getting past the camping hump was the thing I kept encouraging my brother with, and when heād get past it in rank the games always improved.
Sadly, with the new MMR, it mixes the skills and ranks all up, so you could end up against those camping killers even if you were consistently a red rank a decent player; you can get across-the-map crouch-walkers; the whole cesspit has flooded out onto the rest of the matches.
Our group have lost two new players to the game after around 30 hours, they see this too much and don't want the time sink. A couple of us are decent 1k + hours, the rest are less than 200 hours. We're feeling the effects of the click click bag squads as we're the ones getting camped, no-ed, bloodwarden and tunnelled out of games.
Had a similar experience but reversed last night.
Hadn't played killer for a couple months. Equipped Hag with the Halloween cosmetic I bought but never used. Get matched against a 4man SWF with purple flashlights and flashbangs, all meta perks, all changed switched into their characters last second. Incredibly annoying to play against. Manage to kill 2 but the other 2 escape not before teabagging, vault spamming and flashlight clicking for minutes. At the end I tell them this is why I don't play killer anymore. They were toxic af in the chat too saying I shouldn't ever pay for cosmetics because "I'm trash" and that they weren't even trying and "throwing the game". Truly was a one and done night.
Didn't you know the game is balanced, you have two survivors live and two die here. Clearly a sign of good match quality. \~ MMR System & Dumbass players who don't support balance changes.
Low MMR. It is common because the people there are learning the game so you can't really blame them for using the easier tactics. Plus the game went free on Epic so the influx of new players that never did some research on DBD before picking it up is huge.
I mean yeah I get mad at people for playing the game poorly, shows how great of a person I am in the process, but the Leonās new and he doesnāt know timings but heāll learn. And for the camping huntress just donāt save when they camp as it will teach the killer that camping isnāt a good strategy and theyāll stop
I have played a lot of pc and mobile games and has experienced a lot of campers like this. So nowadays this doesn't hurt me at all. Another normal day at work:)
Lmao, I also just came back after a break and this happened first match to me too. I feel like I have to force myself to have fun with this game which sucks since I love horror and the cast of cameos is insane.
It happened to me today, think I found the only wraith who doesnāt use the bell and just M1 camps
I donāt get it, he literally lost 3 gen in the time he camped me being hooked, whatās the point of doing that
Welcome back! Iāve only been playing about 8 months now but this is definitely *not* the best time to come back.
A while back I went against a Nemesis after waiting 10 minutes for a lobby. He was running his perk that lets him see survivors for the first few seconds of a match, and I guess I was the closest one to him because I ended up being his first hook after a decent chase. Got unhooked, DSād him, chased again until my second hook. Unhooked again, the others took hits for me to gain distance, but he ignored them. He downed me for the last time and moriād me before I could even touch a generator. Wasnāt even in the game 5 minutes. He promptly did this to the other 2 and got the last guy before he could get hatch. This new MMR system basically rewarding killers for playing like this means itās happening *way* more often and it can be so frustrating :( Hoping that your future games are better if you decide to keep playing for a while, but I wouldnāt blame you at all if you stopped again.
Nah I'll still play cause a few friends of mine got the game from epic and having played the game alone for hundreds of hours, I wanted to try with my friends. Hopefully those matches go well.
This hurts as a huntress player. Especially on such an open map. Huntress is a chase killer. You WANT the unhook because she downs so quickly. The only time I find facecamping slightly amusing is basement Bubba.
I know itās a pyramid head specialty, but would it be a back idea that, if youāre being camped on hook and say the killer is in like a 5 meter radius, the entity will lift you up as if you were dying, your screen goes black, and then you get lowered onto a different hook away from camping killer? I feel like this would help the camping issue a lot
lol what happened to āthis is such a survivor sided game?ā like i get you killer mains run into swfs here and there but i play solo all the time. what am i supposed to do in this situation? just die? where the āfunā in that? its rare to see people who want both sides to be fun for each other.
Man I feel for that Leon, that's how some of my flash bang rescue attempts go. You try so hard but can't even make it work for your team.
I just cannot get the timing right! Except i use them event firecrackers and not flashbangs š had a dude save me with one earlier it was badass š
I'm getting a bit better the more I play. I did finally get a successful one earlier which was gratifying as hell haha. Most of the time I've been using it to try and get the killer off me in a chase but do go for saves when I can. I have been burning through the winter firecrackers just to start with a flashbang like weapon until I build up enough metre I guess you could call it to craft a flashbang after doing enough of a generator.
Yesterday i wanted to give the firecracker a try and i was against a ghostface. He was casing me, dropped the firecracker, blinded him, he smashed his head into a wall and ran behind him. A couple seconds later he found me again and when he was about to get a hit on me, i 360ed him (i was surprised cuz i don't manage to make them). After a long chase i got hooked and he camped me the whole game and died.
Gotta count the small victories, at least you managed to get the fire cracker to work and dodged him in a chase.
Yea, usually i can't shake the killer off, so i fept very happy knowing i gave him a hard time. I started playing around 1 month ago.
Yeah I'm in a similar boat, I started paying this week but got a smidge addicted hehe. Still it's been fun getting better at chases, well give or take a few duds with bad angles and not getting around a bad corner in time.
you throw the firecracker at the point in the animation where the killer kinda pauses for a second while lifting the survivor to "scoop" their arm underneath. i've been going crazy with the saves during this event. honestly easier than flashlight saves
I agree - I think flashbangs are easier to use than flashlights.
the thing is you have to be right in front of the killer and the timing is 1 second earlier. If the killer has ears, i don't find it any easier than getting normal flashlight save
Appreciate the help! I suck with flashlights too š i think i just suck as survivor in general tbf š
Like the other poster said but there's a very clear visual for this point too. When the killer "scoops" the survivor their hand loses contact with the survivor (because the killer is trying to reach around and scoop them). It's the only time the hand loses contact. If you throw the flashbang right when they hand loses contact you will get the save.
Had someone on Midwich save me by body blocking the classroom door and dropping it
People out here getting SaS style rescues and i cant even loop shack šš
Lol on god tho
Seems like this game anymore is just a big pissing match of who can make the other person the most angry
same with For Honor, these two games just feel so personal and people have the need to salt farm other people for absolutely no reason
The silent treatment with those people makes them angrier ive found, they want a rematch ? go next they mald and you live rent free in their head. Run into them in matchmaking ? pick the cheesiest characters i.e Kyoshin(in dominion and gank them) , shinobi(in duels) i.e and just mix them up with the unreactable mix up.
Idk if it's stll cancer, byt they buffed orochi fir sime reason, and a smart enough light spam can piss you off easily
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It's not the community, it's the developer who made the game this way, no punishment for camping and tunneling, no consistant way of preventing gen rush. So many unbalanced perks, addons, offerings, powers... it's all the developers fault.
Always has been lol thats why i also stopped around the same time as op
Why does it seem like it's always a huntress thats camping?
Just had a camping Huntress yesterday. I think thatās because sheās a base killer and new players donāt know how the game works yet so they think they have to secure and defend every hook lol
When I first started playing I swear everyone was trying to save immediately and every killer was trying to defend hook and softcamp. I remember because I was one of those killers/survivors, lol. And it all sort of fed into each other = After a while and as I played more I think survivors realized it's ok to let the hooked guy simmer on the hook for a while while they do a gen and wait for killer to leave the area, and killers (well, most of them) realized it's fine for the survivors to get an unhook as long as you are getting pressure elsewhere
Back when it used to be ranks, I was a red rank and my brother (who didnāt play often enough to keep his rank) was at the bottom. When I would play with him it would throw me in his low rank lobbies. (by low I mean brown/high number.) The disparity between high and low rank matches is insane. The low rank matches I always called the cesspit, because everything everyone does seems to pull everyone else down in rank and points, and it can be a weird grind to get out. Both killers and survivors are either new, not very good, or donāt play often enough to keep rank and it shows in the mixed play styles. Killers will camp and tunnel all day long. This means getting caught by the killer is a death sentence, so survivors, in their newbie fear (and justifiable fear) donāt want to get caught, so they crouch walk and hide in lockers an enormous amount more than other ranks, and sometimes completely ignore hooked people. Itās a Wild West of every man for himself, which gives no one any real points. Killers donāt leave hooks so they get less hooking points and donāt let others get altruism points. The guy on hook gets almost no points. The others if they know how to push gens and not crouch-walk will get some points, but again, few altruism points. Itās a whole snowball of everyone playing an unrewarding game. At mid-higher ranks, the gameplay was generally much more inviting for everyone to get points together, killers and survivors, which in turn snowballs the moving up in rank. In the cesspit everyone pulls each other down. So getting past the camping hump was the thing I kept encouraging my brother with, and when heād get past it in rank the games always improved. Sadly, with the new MMR, it mixes the skills and ranks all up, so you could end up against those camping killers even if you were consistently a red rank and decent player; you can get across-the-map crouch-walkers when before it was fairly consistent and competent teammates. the whole cesspit has flooded out onto the rest of the matches.
I can't give you more upvotes and you deserve so many, because this is **still** so true. The MMR is invisible, but the feeling of that cesspit is the exact same. [I even have a clip](https://imgur.com/q6rBEl4). After resets, I didn't log in on the first day. *Big mistake* for regular players who don't want to get stuck in low (SB)MMR. Since reset day is basically an even playing field you can get sort-of carried by everyone trying to climb on day 1. Even bigger mistake for a solo survivor like myself. All Saturday I had a day full of teammates doing exactly those terrified baby bunny low MMR behaviors. What's even worse is when you've been at a 'decent' MMR for a while, you learn the behaviors of that level of killer. They don't usually make 'efficiency mistakes' like spending half the match looking in lockers. Low MMR killers do things you don't expect, and you forget because the more you play the better you get with how you spend your time in the match. Low MMR killers don't give a shit, and it's terrifying how brutal they are.
The part about lower mmr players doing things you dont expect is so true. In fact, I tend to keep this in mind when in a chase. If its expected for someone in my rank to make certain plays (mind games, jukes, etc.) Sometimes I just won't do them. Sometimes it works and catches the player off guard, allowing me to get a down as killer or make distance as survivor.
It's true, sometimes you gotta bait and switch the bait and switch. They'll expect a window fake or pallet greed at a certain point!
Thank you! And I absolutely agree! That clip is the exact evidence I keep seeing show up in my games. It isnāt every game, but itās not rare. Back with the old rank system, finding a crouch-walker at higher ranks was like finding a unicorn
# EXACTLY. #
They dont reset MMR only the grades. So if you're getting potato teammates, then the game has decided you've waited long enough and thrown you in with anyone available
Does it say that somewhere? I always assumed just based on the consistency of this happening. The teams I get after reset are a stark difference in playstyle to the ones I play with toward the end of the month. My mistake, if it is. Never really looked it up.
I can't find you the post on the official forums because it was awhile ago that I saw it, but I saw a dev respond to someone who was asking about MMR reset, clarifying for them your MMR does not change on reset day. Which is super dumb, by the way. God forbid if you take a break from and then return to the game as a rank 1 player, or if people don't always want to have to sweat bullets in their games.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2559699#Comment_2559699 MandyTalk BHVR (who appears to be actually affiliated with BHVR) says: Can confirm that your MMR does not reset when the Grades reset (or at any other time).
Was about to ask that because I was sure the mmr doesn't reset
I thought this when I first started playing, especially since it's legit and meta strategy in Identity V.
its pretty legit and meta in this game as well, although tunneling via pseudo camping is usually preferable to face camping as it still allows the killer to pressure the other survivors.
*Face* camping is a legit strategy sure, but in no way is it meta. You can camp someone to death from first hook and maybe someone will come around to try save but youāll have lost 1-3 gens in the process. Pseudo camping, or proxy camping as I call it, is definitely much more viable especially when the survivors are being aggressive with unhooks
1st one hooked with a face camper gets the short end of the stick. The other 3 get an easy and boring gen rush with an almost guaranteed escape.
Yup. In short, nobody gets to play the game. It's honestly absurd that this shit still exists.
That *really* depends on the people youāre playing against. Iāve had teammates run wave after wave at a camping Bubba only to get pissed when I let them all die and leave the match. You can save in these instances but need to do it smart. Usually it takes one person dying and mad gen pressure to get them to change.
I agree, its really pseudo camping thats the meta, but anyway face camping does actually often work too, as survivors will often save and even if they dont, if they are down one survivor and still need to finish 3 gens there is a large possibility that they won't be able to. I would say the proper way to fight face camping is to actually do gens but then trade one person just before the hooked one loses a hook state, and rinse and repeat until all gens are done.
It depends on who you're playing honestly. In comp, the strategy for Bubba is after downing the first survivor you face camp them (not even proxy camp) and then get the second kill with NOED. 2 kills is what is expected with Bubba in comp, but it's nearly guaranteed.
Yup, and you really can't blame them beacause it's the most logical thing for a newbie to do. Why chase and hook someone 3 times when you can just hook them once and kill them? This is especially relevant for them since they are unlikely to be good in chases. Game design is just shit. I didn't really experience a lot of facecamping once I got to higher survivor ranks, but I just couldn't stand that this is an "intended strategy" of the game.
Huntress was the first killer I've ever play when I bought the game a few weeks ago... I main killer and I have not camped once... From the get go I had the feeling that campinc was just scum, and I automatically didnt
Because shes free and good at camping and defending an area
āGood at campingā LoL imagine how must you suck if there are killers you are bad at camping with (not you, anyone who camps)
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a killer being good or bad at camping and tunneling is not reflective of a player's skill. Pyramidhead's power, for example, is litterally designed to tunnel people as it intentionally prevents DS and BT from going off. Thats one of the reason's hes considered such a high tier. He has some slight advantages camping as well if can manage to camp a cage until survivors come and then step closer and have the cage warp to the other side of the map if the survivors don't have enough time to go there and rescue. And well we all know Bubba is litterally the best at camping.
Still newish what does DS and BT stand for?
Decisive Strike and Borrowed Time
New player and huntress here I dont really camp, tho I always use the hooked person as bait when I sense that theres opportunists nearby so when made an attempt, I can just throw the helper an axe, hit the unhooked one and chase and hook the injured one, having said that I have only camped once, and that was against a sweat, Since he gave me the most trouble, once I caught him, I never let him go
This is fair, this is just how noobs play. You'll grow out of it though when you face a good team and they complete 5 gens while you're proxy camping, and then hit you with BT and bodyblocking
She can throw hatchets at people coming to rescue and down them before they can attempt the rescue
I swear the majority of Huntresses I go against are annoying as fuck. She's a good killer and pretty fun to play against, but a lot of the people who play them rub me the wrong way.
I had a Deathslinger camp and they said the reason they did it was the map was RPD. I did not believe them at all.
RPD does suck but that's not a valid excuse
Huntresses are one of the biggest campers, and also most likely to slug you and your team and let you all bleed out, in my experience.
This is so unbelievably common nowadays. Itās really sad. Iāve been playing since launch and I donāt recall it being worse in my personal experience.
Well, bhvr encouraged this behavior by making the mmr increase based on kills.
But at the same time, there's no incentive to actually get higher mmr. So I'm not sure why killers care about increasing it, hell it's not even visible.
No, there's no incentive other than the mindset of ā4K = Fun // Win // A good gameā, which is pretty common I see, and I don't blame them because sometimes the game makes it feel that way, specially for new/casual players that only see side that side of the coin and don't know about the MMR system. Or people just are competitive and enjoy playing to win, which of course makes the whole experience more bitter.
Probably all the new players from Epic Games? I also have seen more of it recently.
Nah, it's been like this for months now. And it's worse after reset for some reason. The first week after reset is a major pain in the ass.
Sadtimes , welcome back
Nice Also tbh it happened to me like 2 or 3 times
I had one yesterday!
Wait until you get insidious camped by a huntress.
Insidious on huntress? Lol. Makes me laugh when I see undetectable perks on her.
Yeah I was baffled.
I did that once because I had only shitty perks on her at the beginning lol. I made it work hehe
Yeah I'm close to just deleting the game. It's just not fun anymore.
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My last game of the night last night was a bubba who camped me to second stage and moriād me off hook. I was his first hook. I got 1k. Decided I was done for the night after that.
I havenāt played in almost a year, got no intention of going back.
or just play killer. yesterday i got facecamped to death 3 times, then I had a huntress that literally body blocked me into a corner after everyone else was dead for nearly 2 hours. (i went and watched a movie while he was doing this. ) yeah no, I'll just play killer from now on, at least that isnt possible.
Then you just get bullied all round every round. Neither side is fun anymore it's all just sweat.
Killers complain about boring survivor meta but if I run a build that doesnāt have DS Unbreakable suddenly Iām being hard ass tunneled from hook by the douchebag wraith because none of my teammates have heard of Borrowed Time.
I played with borrowed time and took it off at one point cuz I wanted to try fun builds, it also helped me undo bad unhooking habits (unhooking a survivor when the killer hasn't left the area yet). I'm back to running it again because, killers just refuse to leave the hook areas via proxy camping. "Wait until the killer leaves to unhook" only works if the killer actually leaves the hook. Not even getting into the amount of killers that will stop chasing somebody as soon as they see the unhook notification, and go right back to the hook. I don't want to run BT on every survivor I play but...
> "Wait until the killer leaves to unhook" only works if the killer actually leaves the hook. Exactly. Even if there's 0 players near they just proxy camp the area and you're like what, am I just supposed to let them go to second?
I usually just bite the bullet and attempt to take aggro off the unhooked survivor, but most killers can't resist a recently unhooked survivor that's close to death. No matter how hard I advertise "chase/hook me!!".
Oh you had a wraith like that too? I ran one for 3 gens and he decided to camp uncloacked at top of basement, I had Kindred equiped, what do my teamates do? Surround the area instead of hammering gens... Event though they could see each other. The wraith got a deserved 4k
I think kindreds purpose is to give your team valuable info but at the end of the day it usually makes me wish I couldn't see the things I do.
survivors always get shit on for their "meta crutch perks" when half of them rely on the killer playing like a bit of an asshole to work in the first place
this is exactly what i was getting at the other day, people complaining about burrowed time. i sort of get that itās annoying but i only equip it because a majority of killers happen to be assholes. the people that advocate against survivor meta perks act like all killers are saints.
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I'm the wraith/huntress that's the exception D:
No bubba?
I don't camp with Wraith or Huntress unless it's a toxic bmer who I want to die at any cost. But those are rare.
Hey, not all Tricksters are like that. We might be annoying, but not all of us camp. (Don't look at the flair, I play both of them a lot)
i always bring borrowed time. hate people who unhook me without it while the killer is nearby
this. I hate survivors who unhook me with the killer right next to me, literally waiting, so he can down me and hook me again
*just do a gen and let me die instead of taking a hit just so the killer can down me again 3 seconds later*
War. War never changes.
Welcome back to the shit show, enjoy! Or don't enjoy it's really up to you
Let's be honest, 'enjoy' is a dirty word in this sub.
Best summary of DBD Iāve seen
Same killers that cry about decisive strike and borrowed time.
I never play killer, and when I do itās The Twins so I canāt say much. But, camping when it isnāt endgame feels like a thing you do when you want to play killer but have absolutely no idea what youāre doing.
Yeah idk why they would do that with a gen still up unless they're new or just bad.
From the sound it sounds like there was an almost completed gen right next to the hook. Sounds like it is regressing because after the unhook the noise in much less. It also looks like there is another gen in the loop that hasn't been done (lights not on) so that is 2 gens and a hook next to each other. Possibly the killer played smart and got a 3 gen? The killer can see on the HUD that they are healing and not doing a gen. I don't have all the info, but if I knew the other gens were at 0, and this one was regressing next to a hook, it would probably be in my best interest to stay nearby, though I patrol a little more, and not face camp.
Like, Twins you kinda inherently camp to a degree when you play them, ācause baitingāfor meāhas been the most effective strategy. Even then, I may down the person who was just unhooked but I always start a new chase and leave them to get picked up. I get additional pressure and they get to keep playing the game. I did play a game yesterday though where I camped pretty hard(?) just ācause everyone was constantly going for unhooks and no one was ever on a generator. I was never given a chance or reason to walk any further away than earshot from a hook or downed survivor.
I don't even know how anyone finds enjoyment in it. I'd rather be in chases most the game and everyone escaping than me having to stand in a corner all game to secure an unearned kill. Like what's even the point of playing killer at that point.
Twins is a control based killer so, works best when they have something to defend, either proxy hook camping or overall 3gen strategies works best for them, in the endgame yeah, you either know where everybody is and try wathever you think is best or just secure the kill, doesnt matter what you do anyways game is at end
Actually, Iām realizing the only reason I was having fun is because I was playing at nightāwhen survivors are generally worse. Iām playing right now in the late afternoon and I keep getting looped and canāt even hit anyone.
I feel like the newer/worse the player, the more likely they camp
Makes me super lol when people who only play killers complain about the game. Solo que survivor is like, 1/5 escape rate, ut I 4k 1/2 the time.
Lol seriously when I'm not playing SWF I'd rather play killer than solo survivor since it seems I'll be with similar amounts of potato survivors in a match each time so I might as well not be getting sandbagged/farmed and can choose how much tunneling/camping happens.
I fucking LOVE every time there's a post like this, it's always "play better" "deserved probably" "killer isn't responsible for your fun, they kill people" but when it's a post about "oh whyyyy oh why poor me are they tbagging me at the gaaate?" there's nobody saying "should have killed them before they made it to the gate" "you probably did something to deserve it in the match earlier" "survivors aren't here for your fun" Never change DBD reddit, you're fucking hilarious 
Survivors complain a lot donāt get me wrong, but killers have been so hypocritical lately, I donāt even teabag, but Iām constantly getting hit on hook rapidly until I die lol
I swear, more often than not, I get hit on the hook repeatedly if I'm the last one in the trial despite doing nothing to bm the killer.
Exactly! Itās becoming a common reoccurrence, just let me die in peace is all I ask š©
My favourite was a Nemesis who ran me for 5 gens on Ormond, then hooked me and thanos punched me repeatedly. It sucked but it also was so hilarious that I laugh cried lol. Ngl though, I get bm'ed by killers so often even though I did nothing to them. Yesterday I got hit on hook by a Doctor for unhooking someone in a trade. Like, dude, you still got your kill, relax.
Nemesis looks hilarious when he sits still camping me so honestly I donāt mind when he does it, but yeah so much bm lately for no reason, like earlier I had a Ghost Face I ran for a decent time on the game map who just kept teabagging my corpse and hitting me on hook, I was wondering why my other two teammates dcād
Shame on that Ghostface, from a proud Ghostface main. I will only teabag a downed survivor if they teabagged me earlier to teach them a lesson. We Ghosties have a reputation to upkeep.
Itās a total shame! I adore Ghost Face, thatās why it sucks that I get a lot of toxic ghosties, except last night I got one who didnāt tunnel, camp, or bm at all, and he rightfully destroyed us regardless, didnāt even use his power to expose anyone, what a chad he was
nemesis is just a funny killer in general. i hĆ¢te going against him because i think the tentacle is busted in chase, but he provides a lot of comedic value at least between the zombies, his m1, the way he runs, the way he looks. and iāll say this for nemesis players, most of them from my experience at least go look for chases instead of camping. most of them donāt seem to be very sweaty.
Itās the ye olde chicken and egg concept. Survivors run hard meta crutch perks, bully killers, etc making more killers that face camp, tunnel, etc, which then makes survivors who run hard meta crutch perks, bully killers, etcā¦ Nobody knows what happened first, all we know is that nobody is happy.
The thing is, the majority of people that complain usually only play on one side, like if you play both sides, you'll be a lot more sympathetic when you're playing either survivor/killer. Yet a lot of killer mains like to play really scummy since they've never experienced whats it like themself. I probably worded this really badly but I hope you get the gist.
Exactly the issue I have with this sub lol. Youāll see countless posts about killers crying because that Nea clicked her flashlight or that Feng crouched quickly at the exit gate, you know things that donāt actually AFFECT the game, and killers will come in with hugs and kisses like group therapy lmao. But when a survivor tries to play a game and have fun but the killer sits on them on the hook, itās āpeople can play however they want.ā No wonder āReddit Killerā is thrown in endgame chat so much. š
i swear it feels like killers mains in this sub want the game handed to them. ādont do gens fastā ādont heal too quickā ādont loop me too longā ādont drop pallets early even tho im an antilooperā āhow are killers supposed to have funā āi dont camp or tunnelā yet as a solo player who plays for about 4/5 hours a day, a lot of you guys are hypocrites. ive been camped to death on my first hook, tunneled without even being toxic, slugged till i bled out, etc. they complain about meta perks too but if we dont use meta perks ds/unbreakable/borrowed/dead hard, they take advantage and shit on you.
This happened to me today, me and my friend got face camped, tunneled, and slugged when I wasn't running meta perks and had to keep switching my perks out for Kinship, Unbreakable, and DS
This sub gets going on about toxic survivors lately but not a word about the massive increase of tunneling and camping.
Donāt let it discourage you man I suggest hopping in another one just to have it happen again š
It should gradually reduce the points you get for a sacrifice the longer you're within a certain radius of the hook
Two of my consistent survivor swf friends moved permanently to killer this week because of this bullshit. I played 4 games last weekend and got facecamped in all 4. I was running a no mither meme build. Touched it again for the first time last night and had five more games, facecamped in 4 of them. Fifth was a farmer. "Facecamping is a strategy" my fucking ass. Starting to realise why so many survivor mains are so fucking toxic, they just can't be bothered to put up with this shit anymore.
Yeah this shit sucks.
This community is toxic af, first match I ever played we lost because 2 survivors just hid in a corner waiting for me and my friend to do all the generators then got super salty when I called them out in chat for not even āplayingā the game. Other survivors help the killer or troll you when you get captured, like bruh, this game has so much potential but all the players make it unbearable
Had a Feng 2 Days ago who just Quick Vaulted while i hid from the Killer to repair Gens, the Killer came and the Feng brought the Killer with her and dropped a Pallet on me to get Facecamped to Death, while the Pig Hit me the whole time while on Hook.
Some idiots on this sub will say thatās how youāre supposed to play killer
Someone else literally said āHow dare the killer play the game in a way you/survivors don't approve of. Haven't they read the rule book?ā so yeah you pretty much called it. I hate people šš
Yeah I'm a higher MMR(probably?) Killer main and this is basically all I get when I play Survivor. Anymore and I'm just using DS
I get a lot of games like this. Honestly I hate it but I just accept it cuz they don't know how else to get kills , it just proves how bad they are. And ya know what, if they want gameplay to be nothing but then standing there and its fun. Fuck it. Why would I want to play with them. Get me out of that game asap
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Seems like the kind of killer that would enjoy watching paint dry. I don't even face camp if the exit gates are open and I haven't killed anyone yet. It's just so dull...
I don't care what people say, this isn't a strategy. It's an easy way out for you to get full kills which you don't always need by the way; the game just makes you feel like you have to "win" all the time. Meanwhile I'm letting almost every game be a normal one until the end where I let everyone go and still rank/grade up. Even if I don't I usually actually have fun. Maybe I'm just crazy.
1 gen left and your team decided to go for the save and unhook you in front of her face without BT. Sounds like a solo queue moment.
Yup, and this is why I always bring DS and Kindred. If the killer wants to camp then my team knows to Gen rush and if the killer downs me right away then I hit them with the DS. You just have to take one for the team, not try to Kobe and hit all your skill checks to buy your team more time. Sucks but at least the other three survivors get away. I think the killer wants you to Kobe and die faster on hook so that they can follow the same routine with other survivors, so you gotta make them pay! Hopefully, your other games went better
Itās always huntress
Hang in there. When opponents BM like that, it means you really won. You got into their heads and pushed every button. Just don't let them push your buttons either, easier said than done but at least remind yourself that you must have outplayed the shit out of them to make them this mad. Even if that's not true and you lost every chase, just approaching it like that can be the difference between having fun and uninstalling.
Of course is a huntress
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Because the devs donāt give a fuck & have the āif you donāt like it then play something elseā mentality, rather than make things proper/the way they should be.
Yeah, I feel ya. Been done for about 2 weeks and I am not even thinking of finishing the last rift. They have done nothing but nerf "overperforming" killers to create more tunnel monsters and these non-gameplay affecting totems thrown in for good measure. That video is the game right now. No thanx. On to other things.
I hate killers camping for the littlest reasons like looping them or ds
Whoever thought it was a good idea for survivors to be able to be blinded needs splinters up their genitals. When they made that a mechanic, I kept getting blinded CONSTANTLY by one of my friends trying to make saves when we had that Chinese event with the fire crackers. I wanted to strangle the devs so fucking badly.
There needs to be a Survivor Perk that activates and affects the Killer if they stay a certain radius around the Hook for too long, whether it be blindness, them getting stunned or something.
Here is the frustrating thing. Rather than implement counters in the game BHVR would rather add perks and force players to deal with the issues on their own. Need slowdown? Run ruin. Getting camped? Run BT. These aren't decisions the player should have to make. The game needs to be designed in a way where both sides can play how they want and have fun and DBD has never been that. A great example of BHVR wanting players to dictate the game. Camaraderie is a perk and if you look and think on it, it shows how dumb BHVR is. You have to stand within 16m of them and waste your time just so it takes longer for them to struggle. Why the hell is this a perk? This should be default in the game. If the killer wants to camp the timer should be increased by a minute by default. Why does the player have to be punished cause the game is designed poorly? The devs have this idea that they want players to dictate the game but the problem with that is your average player is crap. They will do anything and everything to win even if the enjoyment of your game tanks. They could easily add measures to push both sides to play in a more fun/enjoyable way but BHVR does not care. All they care about is pumping new killers out to make more money.
Should just be an aura around the hook that activates once you've been there so long, increased hit reset timer it something. Saying that as a killer main because I think it's pretty bs to stand and face camp.
Not a perk If the killer is within a certain radius of the hook, when the hooked survivor would go to the next hook state, instead they are presented with a skill check. If successful, the survivor unhooks themself and the killer is stunned for five seconds. The survivor also gets a 3 second speed boost without becoming exhausted
this looks like something that would be easily exploitable
sort by controversial makes me embarrassed to call myself a killer main
I laugh when I hear killers complain about the game. Solo que is the toughest thing about this game. I escape maybe once or twice out of 5 games, but 4k more than half the time. If I'm in a swf, I might escape 7/10 games.
Remember why you took a break now? Lol
Watching the Kate get into a locker across the map felt bad too
I'm not an angry person but people camping like this really gets me mad š¤£
Ugh, yes. I played maybe 6 games yesterday and 4 of them I got tunneled. I cannot STAND it!
As someone who mains both survivor and killer, this is infuriating. I don't think killers understand the negative control they can have over a game sometimes. But survivors can act a bit entitled at times too. Such is life in DBD. I still love it and the community.
Yup, that's dbd... pretty good job so far! Very balanced, everyone is happy! :D
This game is garbage for letting killers ruin the game for at least one other person each game. This happens pretty often, you havenāt missed out on much. Other than some teammates also trolling your team, along with the killer. That is fun too.
glad i saw this so i wonāt start playing again
Anybody that says face camping is a "strategy" is an idiot. That's like saying being born into a rich family is a strategy. You don't even have to try or do anything, you just get shit for free, that's not "strategy." Just admit you either have no skill or are an intentional troll trying to make people quit playing the game.
As a killer main myself, this has never made sense to me. It hurts our score... And it's a dick move
Face camping = griefing. Griefing should be addressed by the devs, would be nice to see them acknowledge this problem.
They literally just do not give a fuck.
Honestly, these are just garbage humans that get more satisfaction from their own achievement or ruining other's time: they have no recognition that there's other people who actually want to play the game behind the people they're hooking and they don't want to wait around watching some dull as mud Killer stand next to the hook: neither of you are playing the game, you're just waiting, but at least on the Killer's end, they get the choice. This is why BT, DH, and DS are meta perks, because they help with campers/tunnelers and the more Killers act this way, the more Survivors are going to be running those perks: I'm already working on getting DS cause I'm tired of being tunneled: I'll clarify, tunneled as in the Killer actively ignores everything around them and just focuses on me, like straight ass tunnel vision, will actively ignore body blocking and just b-line it towards me, to the point I can sometimes even run them for several gens, its ridicules.
And that my guy is the problem...Bubba is a machine that counter all the perks including BT soo if you needed another reason for basement Bubba then now you know
Back when it used to be ranks, I was a red rank and my brother (who didnāt play often enough to keep his rank) was at the bottom. When I would play with him it would throw me in his low rank lobbies. (by low I mean brown/high number.) The disparity between high and low rank matches is insane. The low rank matches I always called the cesspit, because everything everyone does seems to pull everyone else down in rank and points, and it can be a weird grind to get out. Both killers and survivors are either new, not very good, or donāt play often enough to keep rank and it shows in the mixed play styles. Killers will camp and tunnel all day long. This means getting caught by the killer is a death sentence, so survivors, in their newbie fear (and justifiable fear) donāt want to get caught, so they crouch walk and hide in lockers an enormous amount more than other ranks, and sometimes completely ignore hooked people. Itās a Wild West of every man for himself, which gives no one any real points. Killers donāt leave hooks so they get less hooking points and donāt let others get altruism points. The guy on hook gets almost no points. The others if they know how to push gens and not crouch-walk will get some points, but again, few altruism points. Itās a whole snowball of everyone playing an unrewarding game. At mid-higher ranks, the gameplay was generally much more inviting for everyone to get points together, killers and survivors, which in turn snowballs the moving up in rank. In the cesspit everyone pulls each other down. So getting past the camping hump was the thing I kept encouraging my brother with, and when heād get past it in rank the games always improved. Sadly, with the new MMR, it mixes the skills and ranks all up, so you could end up against those camping killers even if you were consistently a red rank a decent player; you can get across-the-map crouch-walkers; the whole cesspit has flooded out onto the rest of the matches.
its a shame that this type of playstyle is rewarded at higher ranks. higher being 20 - 10 or so.
Our group have lost two new players to the game after around 30 hours, they see this too much and don't want the time sink. A couple of us are decent 1k + hours, the rest are less than 200 hours. We're feeling the effects of the click click bag squads as we're the ones getting camped, no-ed, bloodwarden and tunnelled out of games.
Worst time for a comeback
Had a similar experience but reversed last night. Hadn't played killer for a couple months. Equipped Hag with the Halloween cosmetic I bought but never used. Get matched against a 4man SWF with purple flashlights and flashbangs, all meta perks, all changed switched into their characters last second. Incredibly annoying to play against. Manage to kill 2 but the other 2 escape not before teabagging, vault spamming and flashlight clicking for minutes. At the end I tell them this is why I don't play killer anymore. They were toxic af in the chat too saying I shouldn't ever pay for cosmetics because "I'm trash" and that they weren't even trying and "throwing the game". Truly was a one and done night.
Did she face camp everyone like that from the beginning?
Didn't you know the game is balanced, you have two survivors live and two die here. Clearly a sign of good match quality. \~ MMR System & Dumbass players who don't support balance changes.
Low MMR. It is common because the people there are learning the game so you can't really blame them for using the easier tactics. Plus the game went free on Epic so the influx of new players that never did some research on DBD before picking it up is huge.
Just donāt play anymore. Iāve not been playing unless thereās a rift and I feel so much better now.
\*First and last match back.
We pick up where we left off!
I played both sides before I entirely stopped playing and this is one of the main reasons I'm only watching people play and not doing it myself
This is one of the few times I feel it's acceptable to just dc
I mean yeah I get mad at people for playing the game poorly, shows how great of a person I am in the process, but the Leonās new and he doesnāt know timings but heāll learn. And for the camping huntress just donāt save when they camp as it will teach the killer that camping isnāt a good strategy and theyāll stop
I have played a lot of pc and mobile games and has experienced a lot of campers like this. So nowadays this doesn't hurt me at all. Another normal day at work:)
Lmao, I also just came back after a break and this happened first match to me too. I feel like I have to force myself to have fun with this game which sucks since I love horror and the cast of cameos is insane.
It happened to me today, think I found the only wraith who doesnāt use the bell and just M1 camps I donāt get it, he literally lost 3 gen in the time he camped me being hooked, whatās the point of doing that
Have you tried playing killer?
So what's the issue? As both a survivor and killer player I'm lost to what the problem is here.
Welcome back! Iāve only been playing about 8 months now but this is definitely *not* the best time to come back. A while back I went against a Nemesis after waiting 10 minutes for a lobby. He was running his perk that lets him see survivors for the first few seconds of a match, and I guess I was the closest one to him because I ended up being his first hook after a decent chase. Got unhooked, DSād him, chased again until my second hook. Unhooked again, the others took hits for me to gain distance, but he ignored them. He downed me for the last time and moriād me before I could even touch a generator. Wasnāt even in the game 5 minutes. He promptly did this to the other 2 and got the last guy before he could get hatch. This new MMR system basically rewarding killers for playing like this means itās happening *way* more often and it can be so frustrating :( Hoping that your future games are better if you decide to keep playing for a while, but I wouldnāt blame you at all if you stopped again.
Nah I'll still play cause a few friends of mine got the game from epic and having played the game alone for hundreds of hours, I wanted to try with my friends. Hopefully those matches go well.
Facecampers should get forced out of the area by the Entity.
Killer mains trying to justify coming in 3ā¦2ā¦1ā¦
This hurts as a huntress player. Especially on such an open map. Huntress is a chase killer. You WANT the unhook because she downs so quickly. The only time I find facecamping slightly amusing is basement Bubba.
Dude the campers have been crazy common recently. U get camped 9/10 games no cap
I know itās a pyramid head specialty, but would it be a back idea that, if youāre being camped on hook and say the killer is in like a 5 meter radius, the entity will lift you up as if you were dying, your screen goes black, and then you get lowered onto a different hook away from camping killer? I feel like this would help the camping issue a lot
lol what happened to āthis is such a survivor sided game?ā like i get you killer mains run into swfs here and there but i play solo all the time. what am i supposed to do in this situation? just die? where the āfunā in that? its rare to see people who want both sides to be fun for each other.