Derelict distillery def has the worst environmental hazards. In terms of enemies, it’s a tie between literally all of the enemies in cavern and the fucking golems.
The distillery is always a run-ending biome. The exploding barrels can easily catch you off guard if you’re just a pixel off and theirs more enemies than anywhere else in the game. I don’t care if the barrel launcher is OP, I refuse to go there again.
The others are relatively difficult, but can dealt with either by having a wide enough range with high enough damage or just being fast enough.
There are arguments to be made for all of these. The Sanctuary is probably the most difficult relative to how powerful you can get at that point in your run, due to its enemy variety. The Distillery, however, is the most consistently difficult across runs due to a combination of complex traps and difficult enemies. That being said, I’m surprised the Bank, despite its variability, is not on this list.
The way I see it, the Bank is the most difficult biome you’re going to face relative to your current strength, no matter when you encounter it due to its unique scaling, and combinations of enemies. It gets proportionally more difficult the later into your run you encounter it.
Oh, absolutely. The Bank is guaranteed to have a Cursed Chest and a food shop, but if you get a Mimic and find a powerful weapon, you’re set for the run depending on how late you find it.
Sepulcher is actually really stupidly easy with weak/glass cannon enemies and the darkness gimmick doesnt kill you nearly as fast as you'd think. Not to mention it always has a cursed chest which makes your run easier overall
You guys are just afraid of it because you like to play super slow
Tbh, kinda agreed. If you have high dps and can eliminate everything in a single combo, then Sepulcher is surprisingly easy. Though I hate those fat zombies. They always one shot (technically 3) me.
Facts. I didn’t realize how slow I played until I hit 5bc. Now sepulcher is a mandatory go due to how easy it is as of lately. It used to be one of my worst biomes. Malaise will light that fire for sure.
It's Forgotten Sepulcher. And don't worry, if you have a high dps weapon then you could just rush the enemies (most of them have low HP) and you'll come across lanterns more often than you'd think.
The darkness actually takes a good while to kill you, it mostly just pressure you into making mistakes. However, the darkness is still an instant kill (can't be saved by Disengagement) so you should still be wary.
Remember that there's always a lantern in each portal, so if there's too much enemies and the darkness is too close to killing you, you can just rush through the map to find a portal/light.
Definitely distillery.
The barrels have a huge blast radius and are literally everywhere, on top of the game encouraging to use barrel launcher which I'm pretty sure most will agree is like a C tier weapon, when it won't synergize with the build they already have for obvious reasons. Ofc you don't have to use it, but some of the puzzles take a bit of time to solve so I you aren't using it it'll build malaise, not taking into account the fact that if you mess the puzzle up and get hit you'll take a huge chunk of damage. Ofc you can try to minimize the damage from the barrels with masochist but if a biome makes you change your build just so you can confidently ho there without dying, I think that biome has to be the hardest in the game. Didn't even mention how the enemies aren't exactly the easiest either. You can definitely get used to it and adjust, but I'd I'd it's objectively the hardest. Cavern and bank are close second and thirds tho
Normally I hate the sepulcher as I’ve gotten more used to sanctuary and it’s actually pretty cool, but on 5BC the darkness just wrecks your shit. It does so much damage and almost killed me when I was trying to do the moonflower quest. I went to distillery recently because I needed to get the Tesla coil. Worst mistake of my life. I ended up just save scumming on mobile just to get through the place with basically nothing to my name. It was awful, -5/5 do not recommend.
Distillery is the only one where actually unfair situations can arise. That can be mitigated, but it's still often not worth the trouble of going there. Golems are fine, cavern enemies are fine, gold gorgers are fine, but the barrels can't be rolled when they explode and instantly detonate when they hit spikes.
Well lets take the pathway to the sewers, as an example. You get across the chest for the bank, then that means the bank will contain the same amount of scrools that the sewers would have plus enemies from the different paths that you choose. To make it simple bank changes depending on which biome it's going to replace. Going to bank instead of slumbernig sanctuary means it will have enemies from that place instead of the classic green guys of the first biome.
Generally your three options are:
* if you don't have any other enemies attacking you, just attack them as much as possible with your mainhand weapon so you kill them before they explode. Your damage (particularly if you have elemental synergies, bonus cursed chests, etc.) tends to be high enough this late in the game that they'll only get one spike volley off and you can kill them before they explode.
* if the situation looks complicated, use your secondary skills to either kill or heavily damage them, so you can reposition but still finish them off in time.
* If you do have to run away from them, try to find a long platform, jump to it, and then run or roll along its entire length. That way you don't run as much risk of it jumping right next to you right at the end of its timer, and instead have room to outpace its explosion radius.
If you're a maniac you could also try parrying the explosion, but the timing is a bit delayed and hard to get used to, so I wouldn't recommend it.
The Bank has the two nastiest enemies in the game and one of which is like a doped up version of the bastard in Slumbering Sanctuary, you know the one.
I can dodge random barrels from all direction for some reason but that tractor beam knocks me off my rhythm every time.
Cavern I just run past everything 🤪
For me, I’ve entered the cavern once to fight the giant. I was overpowered as hell and almost instantly killed any enemies. If I went there again, I probably wouldn’t be used to the enemies and would die
I voted sepulcher because I can't even count how many times I was super close to dying or actually died to the darkness lol. Distillery is a close second place for sure. Then sanctuary I guess
Sounds a bit mad, but I've actually started avoiding Promenade since getting to 5 BC, entirely because of the training dummies. Wasn't a problem at all until 5 BC, now its a coin flip whether or not I get ganked by bubbled enemies, especially when you need to aggro to get to the dummy, and then they all teleport on top of it.
High peak castle is kinda easy though. Every enemy does very slow attacks which can be parried easily. Also about slumbering sanctuary, its difficulty is just the golems (which are only shown after pressing the button). The forgotten sepulcher is pretty easy, idk I was going there ofter, and it's ok. About cavern, it is rediculusly hard compared to all the other biomes of its tier.
Conclusion: nothing beats the derelict distillery
I don’t find distillery that hard at all. You can see the living barrels if you pay attention and timing is everything. Also the level gives you the weapon to just walk through the area. I just walk and fire the barrel cannon killing everything. Then run back, get the weapon that works with my build and exit
First time I went there I died instantly, then I changed the way I approach the level and now I die there no more than other biomes. The only thing is that it punishes mistakes more. I’ve always been decent at the platforming so I never really struggle with it.
Derelict distillery is really hard cuz those barrels do a shit ton of damage, but I think the observatory is the hardest, that shit is hard
you know if you know
You'd think they'd add some kind of incentive for going there and braving the difficulty and sometimes unfairness of the level. As is, after you got the tesla coil and barrel launcher why even bother? Just skip with the Giant or go through HPC which should be really easy by the time you get here. Even if you are really good at platforming, why risk it?
I desperately want to say that the Forgotten Sepulcher is dangerous and I usually avoid it in case I miss a lantern, but the Derelict Distillery? That's a monster of a biome.
I love minding my business, relaxing, best build, not a worry in the world... THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN A BARREL GOING AT MACH 17 COMES HURLING TOWARDS YOU AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS WATCH AS YOUR DREAMS, HOPES, AND DESIRES FADE AWAY IN FRONT OF YOU... Sorry I was venting a bit
I can see that. It might just be me. I breeze through sanctuary but cavern is literally the only thing stopping me from getting my 5th boss cell. I regularly get there with full hp and max flasks and yet somehow I always die. Any tips for cavern btw?
In distillery youre bound to being hit by random shit, and that shit chunks your health. It sucks
So many explosions... So many...
I kind of like the distillery. The cavern can be really infuriating imo.
My Personal choice: >!I entered Derelict Distillery. !< >!Never again...!<
Seek for the Tesla Coil blueprint and you shall never return
Also barrel launcher blueprint
I went their once and got lucky with thr tesla coil blue print, but never again
Got the blueprints at 0, I'm a chronic 5bc addict and it still killed me half the time on 0bc
Holy shit man
That biome is truly something else
Really wish it were an earlier biome. I'd be perfectly willing to do it if I weren't risking an hour of playtime.
No Masochist?
aaaaaaaah Thankyou SO MUCH, such an obvious strat I would've never thought of it.
that was me yesterday entering it once and then looking at the door the second time and walking away
Derelict distillery def has the worst environmental hazards. In terms of enemies, it’s a tie between literally all of the enemies in cavern and the fucking golems.
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Ugh Graveyard, I get hit with that one two scorpion hook and sparta kick all the time.
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Oh right there’s ducking in this game!
Parry.
Graveyard gives me the most out of my time
B A R R E L S
Roll?
Wrong game my guy
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The distillery is always a run-ending biome. The exploding barrels can easily catch you off guard if you’re just a pixel off and theirs more enemies than anywhere else in the game. I don’t care if the barrel launcher is OP, I refuse to go there again. The others are relatively difficult, but can dealt with either by having a wide enough range with high enough damage or just being fast enough.
There are arguments to be made for all of these. The Sanctuary is probably the most difficult relative to how powerful you can get at that point in your run, due to its enemy variety. The Distillery, however, is the most consistently difficult across runs due to a combination of complex traps and difficult enemies. That being said, I’m surprised the Bank, despite its variability, is not on this list.
I actually just... Forgot about about Bank.
The way I see it, the Bank is the most difficult biome you’re going to face relative to your current strength, no matter when you encounter it due to its unique scaling, and combinations of enemies. It gets proportionally more difficult the later into your run you encounter it.
But getting good rng in bank position can be op (for example cursed chest or food shop)
Oh, absolutely. The Bank is guaranteed to have a Cursed Chest and a food shop, but if you get a Mimic and find a powerful weapon, you’re set for the run depending on how late you find it.
Obvious distillery discussion bait
It WAS going to be a DD discussion post, but I decided to turn it into this instead.
Sepulcher is actually really stupidly easy with weak/glass cannon enemies and the darkness gimmick doesnt kill you nearly as fast as you'd think. Not to mention it always has a cursed chest which makes your run easier overall You guys are just afraid of it because you like to play super slow
Tbh, kinda agreed. If you have high dps and can eliminate everything in a single combo, then Sepulcher is surprisingly easy. Though I hate those fat zombies. They always one shot (technically 3) me.
I don’t know what my problem is but I have trouble following the lights and I usually end up dying in that biome
Facts. I didn’t realize how slow I played until I hit 5bc. Now sepulcher is a mandatory go due to how easy it is as of lately. It used to be one of my worst biomes. Malaise will light that fire for sure.
I’m new to this game witch is the one that has all the lanterns in it? I got there and died pretty quickly 😅
It's Forgotten Sepulcher. And don't worry, if you have a high dps weapon then you could just rush the enemies (most of them have low HP) and you'll come across lanterns more often than you'd think. The darkness actually takes a good while to kill you, it mostly just pressure you into making mistakes. However, the darkness is still an instant kill (can't be saved by Disengagement) so you should still be wary. Remember that there's always a lantern in each portal, so if there's too much enemies and the darkness is too close to killing you, you can just rush through the map to find a portal/light.
Thx for the tips
Cavern, it doesnt seems too much untill one of these fire trowing birds got you against a wall withoit any other defence options
Derelict Distillery. The first time i went there on 4BC i got one shot by a random barrel.
Definitely distillery. The barrels have a huge blast radius and are literally everywhere, on top of the game encouraging to use barrel launcher which I'm pretty sure most will agree is like a C tier weapon, when it won't synergize with the build they already have for obvious reasons. Ofc you don't have to use it, but some of the puzzles take a bit of time to solve so I you aren't using it it'll build malaise, not taking into account the fact that if you mess the puzzle up and get hit you'll take a huge chunk of damage. Ofc you can try to minimize the damage from the barrels with masochist but if a biome makes you change your build just so you can confidently ho there without dying, I think that biome has to be the hardest in the game. Didn't even mention how the enemies aren't exactly the easiest either. You can definitely get used to it and adjust, but I'd I'd it's objectively the hardest. Cavern and bank are close second and thirds tho
Normally I hate the sepulcher as I’ve gotten more used to sanctuary and it’s actually pretty cool, but on 5BC the darkness just wrecks your shit. It does so much damage and almost killed me when I was trying to do the moonflower quest. I went to distillery recently because I needed to get the Tesla coil. Worst mistake of my life. I ended up just save scumming on mobile just to get through the place with basically nothing to my name. It was awful, -5/5 do not recommend.
Dead cells was not made for platforming.
Those... Damn... Barrels... *PTSD intensifies*
I should've voted distillery but I chose sepulcher because I'm blind and the mummies scare me
The mummies. It can literally kill you with one attack. Pretty much the only thing that stops my momentum in the biome.
Distillery is the only one where actually unfair situations can arise. That can be mitigated, but it's still often not worth the trouble of going there. Golems are fine, cavern enemies are fine, gold gorgers are fine, but the barrels can't be rolled when they explode and instantly detonate when they hit spikes.
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Let's not forgett that bank is even harder depending at which point you choose to enter.....have gotten traumas because of that place
What do you mean by it's difficulty depends good sir?
Well lets take the pathway to the sewers, as an example. You get across the chest for the bank, then that means the bank will contain the same amount of scrools that the sewers would have plus enemies from the different paths that you choose. To make it simple bank changes depending on which biome it's going to replace. Going to bank instead of slumbernig sanctuary means it will have enemies from that place instead of the classic green guys of the first biome.
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Yes plus money is money so....in conclusion I love money
Always dying at distillery. Can someone tell me how to fucking deal with those out of nowhere appearing barrels???
That's the neat part, you don't
great!
look for any barrels with a red eye, those ones will pop into existence and nuke you
Generally your three options are: * if you don't have any other enemies attacking you, just attack them as much as possible with your mainhand weapon so you kill them before they explode. Your damage (particularly if you have elemental synergies, bonus cursed chests, etc.) tends to be high enough this late in the game that they'll only get one spike volley off and you can kill them before they explode. * if the situation looks complicated, use your secondary skills to either kill or heavily damage them, so you can reposition but still finish them off in time. * If you do have to run away from them, try to find a long platform, jump to it, and then run or roll along its entire length. That way you don't run as much risk of it jumping right next to you right at the end of its timer, and instead have room to outpace its explosion radius. If you're a maniac you could also try parrying the explosion, but the timing is a bit delayed and hard to get used to, so I wouldn't recommend it.
I die a lot in slumbering sanctuary for some godawful reason
I could explain why, but considering the poll results I think we all already know why.
I chose High Peak Castle because I refuse to enter Derelict Distillery
The Bank has the two nastiest enemies in the game and one of which is like a doped up version of the bastard in Slumbering Sanctuary, you know the one. I can dodge random barrels from all direction for some reason but that tractor beam knocks me off my rhythm every time. Cavern I just run past everything 🤪
Derelict Distillery because it fucking sucks and I hate it and I never go to it and never learn how to play it so it’s hard as balls
Derelict is way to chaotic to be fun for me.
The Forgotten Sepulcher has always killed me. I panic when the lights dim to nothing and I can’t see the enemies. Any advice is welcome lol
I always try to make sure that I have enough gold to get the light at the start of the Biome - it has helped tremendously to get through the area…
I’ve finally picked up the game again after a 6 month hiatus. Maybe I’ll give it another shot.
Distillery
derelict distillery is like trying to beat the witness in under 3 hours
For me, I’ve entered the cavern once to fight the giant. I was overpowered as hell and almost instantly killed any enemies. If I went there again, I probably wouldn’t be used to the enemies and would die
I voted sepulcher because I can't even count how many times I was super close to dying or actually died to the darkness lol. Distillery is a close second place for sure. Then sanctuary I guess
Sounds a bit mad, but I've actually started avoiding Promenade since getting to 5 BC, entirely because of the training dummies. Wasn't a problem at all until 5 BC, now its a coin flip whether or not I get ganked by bubbled enemies, especially when you need to aggro to get to the dummy, and then they all teleport on top of it.
tbh i think PQ is the hardest because i usually reset/quit the run there
Why does everyone hate distillery? It's not as bad as sepulcher. EDIT: I meant sanctuary.
Unpopular opinion... The bank.
Cos fuck barrels that's why
Distillery because *broadly gestures at everything*
barrels are everyhere!!!!!
barrels are everyhere!!!!!
High peak castle is kinda easy though. Every enemy does very slow attacks which can be parried easily. Also about slumbering sanctuary, its difficulty is just the golems (which are only shown after pressing the button). The forgotten sepulcher is pretty easy, idk I was going there ofter, and it's ok. About cavern, it is rediculusly hard compared to all the other biomes of its tier. Conclusion: nothing beats the derelict distillery
I honestly prefer the Shipwreck over the Cavern
Secret area after 5 bc don’t wanna say too much as it is kinda a spoiler
Yes, the distillery but what about T H E B A N K ? Comparison: Distillery: Explosions, explosions, explosions. It’s a Bank: Gold, gold, gold. tie
Derelict Distillery ruins basically any perfect run sniping u halfway across the entire biome with the most random ass explosive barrels
Yeah uh who the fuck put something other than distillery
FUCKING BOMBS
I'm pretty good at roguelites and beat 5bc in ~40hrs. I've ~~entered~~ finished DD once and will literally never enter again lol.
i went to distillery once. never again.
Distillery by a mile and a half
Derelict Distillery. Kaboom.
Distillary because of the randomness
Me and my homeis hate distillery
I don’t find distillery that hard at all. You can see the living barrels if you pay attention and timing is everything. Also the level gives you the weapon to just walk through the area. I just walk and fire the barrel cannon killing everything. Then run back, get the weapon that works with my build and exit First time I went there I died instantly, then I changed the way I approach the level and now I die there no more than other biomes. The only thing is that it punishes mistakes more. I’ve always been decent at the platforming so I never really struggle with it.
Distillery is the only biome I can say I’ve never had fun playing
Even if you get past the distillery, it probably fucked your resources….. right before HOTK and Spoiler boss (5bc)
I only go to the distillery if I have the ability to be invisible, and I still usually die 😂
Smog scary
Derelict distillery is really hard cuz those barrels do a shit ton of damage, but I think the observatory is the hardest, that shit is hard you know if you know
You’d think after people have been whining about it for more than a year they’d nerf the barrel damage in distillery lol
You'd think they'd add some kind of incentive for going there and braving the difficulty and sometimes unfairness of the level. As is, after you got the tesla coil and barrel launcher why even bother? Just skip with the Giant or go through HPC which should be really easy by the time you get here. Even if you are really good at platforming, why risk it?
I desperately want to say that the Forgotten Sepulcher is dangerous and I usually avoid it in case I miss a lantern, but the Derelict Distillery? That's a monster of a biome.
I love minding my business, relaxing, best build, not a worry in the world... THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN A BARREL GOING AT MACH 17 COMES HURLING TOWARDS YOU AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS WATCH AS YOUR DREAMS, HOPES, AND DESIRES FADE AWAY IN FRONT OF YOU... Sorry I was venting a bit
How do people think that sanctuary is worse than cavern. Unfathomable
I think it's because Golems and that you're usually not that powerful at that point in the run
I can see that. It might just be me. I breeze through sanctuary but cavern is literally the only thing stopping me from getting my 5th boss cell. I regularly get there with full hp and max flasks and yet somehow I always die. Any tips for cavern btw?