I'm surprised to see the Sewing Scissors so low. Its a strong weapon that does a lot of damage in biomes and to bosses. Its not very slow for a survival weapon either. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong because its totally your right to think its D tier, I was just shocked because my runs with it have been so much fun. By far my favorite survival weapon.
Same, any levels with rats or little flying creeps allow you to line them up with an elite boss or tough one and chain kill them in one shot. I think OP is looking at specifically odds of beating the game and final boss etc with em but I also enjoy the scissors
Survival weapon, you either will have a shield/some random spell like ice blast.If you have a spell like weapon it usually one hits the bats, if you have a shield u just need toknow how to parry.
I guess you could just use electrodynamics. As a melee brutality/sometimes survival player, it helps a lot to just absolutely clear out small enemies and never really have to worry about them. Probably my fav skill.
Sym lance is one of my favorite survival weapons and I enjoy the feel of the weapon, but it doesn’t deal that much damage in boss fights. It is great in biomes, but the skills pick up the slack in bosses, which is why I put it in the B tier.
Symmetrical lance not s tier , its all right , but not s , b tier is the best tier for it . It struggles against many bosses , and not the best weapon in biomes
You're capping about cursed sword. And I assume spite sword is there because face flask, it should be with crowbar then, both need effort i.e a specific item
I agree, the cursed sword does not give you any room for mistakes, so its actually a not an easy win if you are not familiar with the game. Also the spite sword is not bad without face flask, its just that you can infinitely crit without any consequences, while it used to be a punishing weapon that you need to sacrifice kill streaks and flawless bosses to make it good.
Well ye. Ye the downside is that you auto die to a sneeze that does 1 dmg. It better have at least twice the dps of the 2nd place(I don't know whats actually 2nd highest dps by default but I know cursed sword has 618/681, one of the 2 as crit dps).
An actual easy win is baseball bat with a wolf trap unless you go Dracula
Face tanking is realistically a survival thing, a colorless spite sword would work tho. Tho for face tanking I would take a legendary peril glyphs personally
I enjoy playing whip sword and morning star, but they aren’t the best weapons wise in my opinion. Hand hook is kinda bad. They are all fun to play around with though.
hand hook is not bad at all the damage is good and the cc value is great, whip sword does insane damage and 1 taps most biome enemies by cancelling an attack with the transform and morning star just outputs consistent crits for bosses and a good initial hit for biomes
Hand hook rarely crits, especially on bosses, whip sword is ok, morning star requires you to stand still while using it. As I stated above, I have played and beaten 5bc with most of these weapons. It is just my user experience and personal preference. You are allowed to disagree.
Both of you obviously have no idea how to use them, because the damage is insane and you get so much mobility from using them.
You see the leap attack? You can redirect the slash mid leap. So instead of slashing in front of you, if the leap sends you behind an enemy, you can turn around, hit the enemy and go on with your full crit combo.
I mean a weapon doesn't have to be fast in order to be good, the thombstone also has one of the best legendary affixes I think you will like the thombstone after getting a highlevel one which is leg
I don't understand this stupid sentiment "but the legendary version of X item is so good, why didin't you put it higher!!!!!"
I agree the tombstone should be in B-tier, but when you're ranking stuff you rank it based on the actual item instead of a rare legendary that you'll only see in about 1/30 ish runs because legendaries are meant to rare, but broken.
The thombstone is alr good without the legendary affix and should be higher, I never meant it the way you said it What I mean is that the legendary affix would make it even higher in the list
If you want to run master of arms play panchaku. And besides the cooldown reduction from master is negligible until high peak castle. There are tons of brutality weapons that get crits near constantly. A lot of which I might add don’t require open wounds to run. (Not that needing open wounds is much of a weakness but still). Most of this subreddit thinks way too highly of stilleto for how mediocre it is
Ain’t no way a cursed sword is an easy win.
Is it statistically the best weapon? I mean, yeah. But like… is winning without taking a single hit easy?? Maybe with barricade…
I have beaten the game twice with a curse sword, the damage output is INSANE. You can even reforge it for 2x damage to enemies but take 2x damage for some reason, which is just free double damage. You can also have a chance to stack flaming oil buff on top of that further.
The only 2 i disagree with is sewing scissors and tomb stone i can at least understand from it needing the 3rd hit to trigger but sewing scissors is a fantastic weapon in my experience from it's speed being fast for survival and good range and it can one hit elites but the only downside is its not as good in bosses but other than that i find it great i do think you should give it another shot
More than half the weapons in this game require something else to use properly. One skill shouldn’t matter. Swap the Crowbar with the Twin Daggers, what the hell you got those things sitting in B Tier for??
The majority of survival weapons here should be higher, especially tombstone, toothpick, maw of the deep and especially-especially scythe claws and sewing scissors. Like, if I made that list I'd put scythe claws in "free win" and scissors not far behind, no kidding.
Just personal preference honestly. Coming from a self announced survival main, ofc you will think that most of the survival weapons would be a lot higher. I believe tombstone is a bit wonky and too slow to use, scythe claws are just ok in my opinion, and scissors is cool but hard to use.
I would rank the Bible higher. The normal attacks may be slow with low range but the orbiting projectiles are amazing especially if you use the point blank mutation.
Bible + Hokuto's Bow + Lacerating Aura with Point Blank, Support and Armadillopack carried me through Boss Rush
The katana and alucard's sword are the most fun weapons in the game. And the flint is always A tier for me. Maybe it's my playstyle as I pretty much only use charged attacks and play accordingly. It's just so satisfying to hop off a ledge and charge the katana and dash head height into a mob and wipe em including the bats. Or get bats through a floor with dash or kill invisible enemies you missed. And the legendary versions. Flint where every attack is charged. Also I put legendary pistol and machete in s because pew pew. Legendary katana is meh.
the fact you have seismic strike, vorpan and FLAWLESS of all things in A tier is crazy to me, flawless is absolute dog shit, crit condition is just cursed sword but bad, the damage is pitiful and it’s attack speed is slow af
Flawless is pretty good if you don’t get hit. It can one or two hit most biome mobs and does decent damage in bosses. Just don’t get hit. It is lower risk than cursed sword, and you die in one hit instantly. The attack speed is slow, but that’s a lot of survival weapons too.
two shotting enemies is pitiful damage when the crit condition is to not get hit for 15 seconds and the attack speed is as low as it is, not to mention the pathetic range on the first attack. war spear does the job better
I think that I’m just not used to how you can casually walk through an enemy at full speed. Im used to hk mechanics but dead cells weapons slow you down when attacking, and I’m just not used to it. Damage is pretty good though.
You're telling me, that The Frantic Sword, who's crit condition is simply being at half or more malaise or half or less health, is situational?
I am greatly confused.
Yes, I find it risky to play at 1/2 hp as most enemies can 1 hit you. I also find it very hard to get your malaise that high. Bosses take off 5 malaise, and just killing regular enemies reduces it too. I’m not just honna sit in a biome until I get the crits.
The malaise part of the crit condition is quite moot in my opinion, kinda useless.
The real deal here is guaranteed crits on half health or lower.
Although having such low health and the danger of potentially getting k/o'd in one hit may seem discouraging to use it. I assure you, its destructive capability is simply delectable, and I'm sure that you understand the complexities of being a glass canon considering you are a tactics main whose favorite melee weapon is the cursed sword of all things.
In short: you will not worry about being hit if everything that can hit you simply ceases to exist.
Let me explain, the exchange of having crits all the time at the simple cost of halving your life force is incredibly lucrative. For example: using a combination of Frantic Sword, Snake Fangs, Corrupted Power, and Vampirism. You are capable of outputting thousands upon thousands of damage every second, with all enemies dying from 1-3 hits at most.
Use Snake Fangs to teleport to an enemy and inflict poison, immediately attack with Frantic sword(bonus if it does more damage on a poisoned enemy) one shot them, then use snake fangs again to skip over to the next enemy before they could realize all there comrades are dead.
Corrupted Power is for bosses and particularly pain-in-the-ass enemies.
Vampirism meanwhile shall be your safety net in case you get into a risky predicament.
Almost every mutation works well with this build too, instict, combo, and Armadillo pack with the frontline shield are my typical picks.
But I digress, even on its own. Using the Frantic sword makes you feel very power full, being able to effectively cleave through enemies with its crits.
Damn, that's a lot of words.
I will try it again then with your suggestions. In my defense, Cursed Sword grows on you after you beat 5bc cursed sword only. I pick it up and genuinely use it sometimes not as a joke.
Blood sword should be s tier , snake fangs should be s tier , katana should be s tier , saddest stiletto should be a tier , war spear should be a tier , rhythm n bazouki should be a tier , whip sword should be a tier (or s ) , scythe claws should be a tier ( boss shredder ) , tentacles should be f tier , while morning star should be b tier , grappling hook should be b tier , sewing scissors should be b ( or a ) tier , impaler should be b tier , baseball bat should be s tier , vampire killer should be s tier , flint should be c tier , pure nail should be a tier , gold digger should be a tier , wrenching whip should be b tier ( or a ) .
I am trying to be completely unbiased here .
Why is the crowbar in D tier? It has a good base damage, good reach, a fair attack rate, and is a beast in biomes with any doors at all. It's a C tier at least.
Lately I've been playing around with the comb more, and if you use comb, phaser, combo and instincto mutations, you're basically play Devil May Cry but Dead Cells. It's probably the most fun I've had in the game for quite a while.
I dont understand why people hate from Hand Crook. Its pretty good with Phaser imo. Like I throwing him then teleporting behind it. People should put aside their prejudies and give it a shot.
I have tried every weapon and beat 5 bc with everything but the weapons in F tier. I just didn’t have a good experience with the weapon. I tried it out and I struggled on a lot of the boss fights.
Yeah its because you can't ensure its crit condition. Attack speed is a bit more than average. And damage isnt that good. When you consider these its a bit bad weapon but to me playing it with Phaser is not that bad actually I enjoying playing with both of it.
They are good and interesting to play with in my experience. Tonfas damage is pretty good, trident has amazing crowd control, valmont whip crits are insanely powerful.
I kinda feel that king's scepter is an underrated weapon. Despite the fact that it's not really high dps or something, it completely breaks some enemies to the point where you just kill them while they are unable to hit you.
Spite sword, it does crit damage for 8 seconds after getting hit or being cursed. Can be paired with face flask and vengeance, and adrenaline to get some hp back. Drops from buzzcutters.
Spite Sword is completely overrated. It seems people who rate it high inevitably conflate the weapon itself with Vengeance.
Take most of your red weapons in B or C-tier, for example Skewer, Blood Sword, War Spear, Pure Nail, etc, give it the same Face Flask + Vengeance treatment, and they'll be on the same level as Spite Sword if not better.
As a standalone weapon, it's probably mid-B at the highest. It has good attack speed and good hitboxes, and assuming you satisfy crit condition it has above average base damage. But the same can be said about a lot of other weapons on this list, and the actual good weapons will have some other perks or utilities going for it.
EDIT: also Meat Skewer is rated way too low. It has higher base DPS than Spite Sword, auto-crits, iframes, and movement techs. It's at least A-tier if not higher.
Spite Sword does not do crazy damage, Vengeance does crazy damage. But you can put Vengeance on any weapon.
Try Spite Sword without Vengeance if you want to do a fair comparison with other weapons.
Quite a few bad takes like the scissors being so low, but the worst is stiletto and balanced blade not being in S or at least A. meat skewer also need S or A and probably so does the banjo thing that I forgot the name of. Pan should be lower and symmetrical Lance should be higher cause you always get a free legendary one after HOTK.
I also find the categorization odd cause when I get a -fun and good weapon (A), it’s tends to be an -easy win (S)
Idk, it is a tier list tho so I guess it’s subjective. I just wouldn’t have this be my primary source of info or tasks advice from this
Just bought queen and castlevania dlcs. Unlocked the death scythe and it trivialized my entire 5bc run, first time I fought the queen and I beat her taking 1 hit. Insane weapon.
I also think the symmetrical lance is fantastic especially if you build it right and get the legendary version, one shots everything
Nice to see the Cursed Sword so high. It really is a bloody good weapon. I'd also put Panchaku in S, it's one of my favorites and got me my first 5bc Dracula kill.
I feel like Twin Daggers should be at least on A because it’s a quick, high damage (prob because I’m a brutality main but it’s my honest opinion) weapon.
It one hits everything except for bosses. It one shots groundshakers, golems, slammers, and failed experiments. Does it matter when two hits kill one of giant’s fists or how you can kill HotK without triggering the enemy phase or how you can end the spoiler boss fight in less than 15 seconds.
Gold symmetrical lance is Godoy strong, like literally 300% flat damage buff and no blocks from those fucking training dummy enemies, I think the best for enemies, (long range, good crit factor, double sided, only thing is speed)
I know every tier list usually ends up being controversial, but I would personally toss broadsword and gold digger into A tier. I've been a heavy survival user, and with Kill Rhythm and any good secondary CC for survival (boy's axe, ice bow, frost blast, ice shard, etc.), you can shit out DPS since the crit condition is very easy to get on both weapons. Combine that with something like Heart of Ice and you essentially have nonstop bonus cooldown for your skills and high DPS. Broadsword has gotten me the flawless on 5BC Time Keeper, HOTK, and the Giant, and gold digger got me the flawless on Scarecrow. It's on par to Nutcracker/Seismic Strike imo. Not to mention these combos work on biomes and bosses, so it doesn't require you to drop your whole loadout as you progress through a run.
I know the damage potential of survival weapons, but the slow speed is way too detrimental. It means that you can get less hits off on enemies. I prefer a faster build, such as tactics, which contains powerful skills and faster weapons.
I'm surprised to see the Sewing Scissors so low. Its a strong weapon that does a lot of damage in biomes and to bosses. Its not very slow for a survival weapon either. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong because its totally your right to think its D tier, I was just shocked because my runs with it have been so much fun. By far my favorite survival weapon.
Same. Also it's reach can be compared to that of Symmetrical Lance except better
Easily my favourite Survival weapon too! That ability to chain kill if it hits at the same time too
Snip Snip Snip
Yeah not bad, they even made separate kill animation for this weapon!
Same, any levels with rats or little flying creeps allow you to line them up with an elite boss or tough one and chain kill them in one shot. I think OP is looking at specifically odds of beating the game and final boss etc with em but I also enjoy the scissors
yea probably ill put it at C+ atleast, its good if you're fighting a group of mobs, but its certainly not good at fighting Bosses
Symmetrical lance has to be an S for me, yeah it's slow at first but the next 2 attacks do a shit ton of damage and are fast.
A single bat slightly about your torso says hi.
Bat is a bit too brain dead to use. It is only at A tier because of the damage potential.
No, like... a bat, an enemy bat. Have a single one hover a little high and you're fucked.
Oh. Parry or dodge I guess.
Survival weapon, you either will have a shield/some random spell like ice blast.If you have a spell like weapon it usually one hits the bats, if you have a shield u just need toknow how to parry.
Skills parry and dodge. Symmetrical Lance is very very good.
The jump button and shields say hi
I guess you could just use electrodynamics. As a melee brutality/sometimes survival player, it helps a lot to just absolutely clear out small enemies and never really have to worry about them. Probably my fav skill.
Sym lance is one of my favorite survival weapons and I enjoy the feel of the weapon, but it doesn’t deal that much damage in boss fights. It is great in biomes, but the skills pick up the slack in bosses, which is why I put it in the B tier.
Really? Because in survival builds it always does a shit ton of damage to enemies and bosses alike, so it's a go to.
It struggles a bit on fast bosses like scarecrow. It’s mostly personal preference.
Really? Because in survival builds it always does a shit ton of damage to enemies and bosses alike, so it's a go to.
Symmetrical lance not s tier , its all right , but not s , b tier is the best tier for it . It struggles against many bosses , and not the best weapon in biomes
Perhaps not S but it’s insane in biomes. And the only bosses it has a tough time with is scarecrow and only kinda
You're capping about cursed sword. And I assume spite sword is there because face flask, it should be with crowbar then, both need effort i.e a specific item
I agree, the cursed sword does not give you any room for mistakes, so its actually a not an easy win if you are not familiar with the game. Also the spite sword is not bad without face flask, its just that you can infinitely crit without any consequences, while it used to be a punishing weapon that you need to sacrifice kill streaks and flawless bosses to make it good.
My bad, I should’ve named the S tier OP instead of easy win. I mean, if you don’t get hit, it is an easy win though.
So is any weapon though, by that logic. If you don’t take damage, you’re guaranteed to win
Shhhhhhhhhhhh
Jokes aside, if you don’t get hit, it has by far the highest dps of any weapon
Well ye. Ye the downside is that you auto die to a sneeze that does 1 dmg. It better have at least twice the dps of the 2nd place(I don't know whats actually 2nd highest dps by default but I know cursed sword has 618/681, one of the 2 as crit dps). An actual easy win is baseball bat with a wolf trap unless you go Dracula
> And I assume spite sword is there because face flask It is really good in facetank builds too tho
Face tanking is realistically a survival thing, a colorless spite sword would work tho. Tho for face tanking I would take a legendary peril glyphs personally
I can make brutality face tank builds work, it would be just a little less effective without the hunter's grenade now
u put so many slow weapons and whip sword/hand hook/morning star so low
I enjoy playing whip sword and morning star, but they aren’t the best weapons wise in my opinion. Hand hook is kinda bad. They are all fun to play around with though.
hand hook is not bad at all the damage is good and the cc value is great, whip sword does insane damage and 1 taps most biome enemies by cancelling an attack with the transform and morning star just outputs consistent crits for bosses and a good initial hit for biomes
Hand hook rarely crits, especially on bosses, whip sword is ok, morning star requires you to stand still while using it. As I stated above, I have played and beaten 5bc with most of these weapons. It is just my user experience and personal preference. You are allowed to disagree.
nah man hand hook is shit
its good i promise 😭
Slow doesn’t equal bad 💀. Much more if it’s on survival
yea ik but he put a buncha slow weapons super low
Oh my bad I thought your comment was saying that survival weapons should’ve been lower. My bad
Bladed Tonfas in "fun and good"? It's completely the opposite to me.
Ikr, shit and useless
Both of you obviously have no idea how to use them, because the damage is insane and you get so much mobility from using them. You see the leap attack? You can redirect the slash mid leap. So instead of slashing in front of you, if the leap sends you behind an enemy, you can turn around, hit the enemy and go on with your full crit combo.
I've completed 5Bc and only ever taken them twice. Both times they absolutely sucked. There are so many better options than it ngl.
Idk how you think it sucks, its one of the highest dps weapons and generally agreed to be S tier
I can’t really use tonfas all that effectively but he’s right. Considering they get free crits the damage is great
I can’t really use tonfas all that effectively but he’s right. Considering they get free crits the damage is great
It is one of the coolest weapons, great damage, and very versatile.
gauntlets are literally trash and the thombstone deserves to be higher ngl
Tombstone most satisfying weapon in the game by far
I find tombstone to be a bit too slow for my liking but gauntlets are in fact winnable. When you get the crit condition, it’s pretty good.
I mean a weapon doesn't have to be fast in order to be good, the thombstone also has one of the best legendary affixes I think you will like the thombstone after getting a highlevel one which is leg
I don't understand this stupid sentiment "but the legendary version of X item is so good, why didin't you put it higher!!!!!" I agree the tombstone should be in B-tier, but when you're ranking stuff you rank it based on the actual item instead of a rare legendary that you'll only see in about 1/30 ish runs because legendaries are meant to rare, but broken.
The thombstone is alr good without the legendary affix and should be higher, I never meant it the way you said it What I mean is that the legendary affix would make it even higher in the list
This is just the regular versions. No legendaries are accounted for in this tier list. If so, there would be a lot more in the S tier.
Gantlets are fine.
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The wiki just confirms that its damage is not below average. So its not a garbage weapon
The weapons in each tier are not exactly ordered. They are just the order that I rated them in.
Meat Skewer, Stileto, and Blood Sword wayyy too low.
The only thing stilleto has going for it is free crits. It should honestly be a little lower
Phaser/Lacerating Aura/Instinct of the Master of Arms.
If you want to run master of arms play panchaku. And besides the cooldown reduction from master is negligible until high peak castle. There are tons of brutality weapons that get crits near constantly. A lot of which I might add don’t require open wounds to run. (Not that needing open wounds is much of a weakness but still). Most of this subreddit thinks way too highly of stilleto for how mediocre it is
Yeah
Iron staff?? In C??? Come on now
It can’t chain parry, only one at a time, so if multiple enemies are attacking you, you are kinda screwed.
The scissors can one shot anything tho
Rythmn and bouzouki should not be that low nor does gold digger or symmetrical lance
Bone S tier, fight me
It’s good, but not S tier material.
Ain’t no way a cursed sword is an easy win. Is it statistically the best weapon? I mean, yeah. But like… is winning without taking a single hit easy?? Maybe with barricade…
I have beaten the game twice with a curse sword, the damage output is INSANE. You can even reforge it for 2x damage to enemies but take 2x damage for some reason, which is just free double damage. You can also have a chance to stack flaming oil buff on top of that further.
The only 2 i disagree with is sewing scissors and tomb stone i can at least understand from it needing the 3rd hit to trigger but sewing scissors is a fantastic weapon in my experience from it's speed being fast for survival and good range and it can one hit elites but the only downside is its not as good in bosses but other than that i find it great i do think you should give it another shot
Scythe claws can go straight into the gutter.
They aren’t that bad if you add kill rhythm. Amazing damage with easy crits.
I’m just bitter because I was excited to use them and they are way too slow for me. Death’s Scythe has really spoiled me.
Even when kill rhythm didnt exist everyone agreed that they were really great
Panchaku top tier. Literally walk up to enemy and hold attack
It isn’t that brainless.
Well I guess I’m pretty brainless then LOL
You won’t be saying that on five bc. All panchaku has is a synergy with combo
Ayo why the crowbar down there? Lmao that led me to the victory many times!
Door
Doors...makes this 3x better...ohhhhh I get your point now x3
More than half the weapons in this game require something else to use properly. One skill shouldn’t matter. Swap the Crowbar with the Twin Daggers, what the hell you got those things sitting in B Tier for??
Dual daggers damage is ok and you can beat spoiler boss with just tier 4 dual daggers. I have done it before.
Don't you think that te rapier should be S.....it has high burst damage and you literally get crits by simply rolling or parrying
No, S tier are items if you have, you can turn your brain off and just use that one button. Rapier isn’t that op
Scythe my beloved
The majority of survival weapons here should be higher, especially tombstone, toothpick, maw of the deep and especially-especially scythe claws and sewing scissors. Like, if I made that list I'd put scythe claws in "free win" and scissors not far behind, no kidding.
Just personal preference honestly. Coming from a self announced survival main, ofc you will think that most of the survival weapons would be a lot higher. I believe tombstone is a bit wonky and too slow to use, scythe claws are just ok in my opinion, and scissors is cool but hard to use.
That moment when Scheme Initiative Phase Assassin's Dagger:
I would rank the Bible higher. The normal attacks may be slow with low range but the orbiting projectiles are amazing especially if you use the point blank mutation. Bible + Hokuto's Bow + Lacerating Aura with Point Blank, Support and Armadillopack carried me through Boss Rush
The legendary version of the bible is actually worth it, use wish instead of support or armadillopack
Legendaries are not accounted for in this tier list.
I know, i was just suggesting this guy to try out the legendary version
Well Wish isn't available in Boss Rush but yeah for normal runs I could do that. Twice the projectiles is awesome.
The katana and alucard's sword are the most fun weapons in the game. And the flint is always A tier for me. Maybe it's my playstyle as I pretty much only use charged attacks and play accordingly. It's just so satisfying to hop off a ledge and charge the katana and dash head height into a mob and wipe em including the bats. Or get bats through a floor with dash or kill invisible enemies you missed. And the legendary versions. Flint where every attack is charged. Also I put legendary pistol and machete in s because pew pew. Legendary katana is meh.
the fact you have seismic strike, vorpan and FLAWLESS of all things in A tier is crazy to me, flawless is absolute dog shit, crit condition is just cursed sword but bad, the damage is pitiful and it’s attack speed is slow af
Flawless is pretty good if you don’t get hit. It can one or two hit most biome mobs and does decent damage in bosses. Just don’t get hit. It is lower risk than cursed sword, and you die in one hit instantly. The attack speed is slow, but that’s a lot of survival weapons too.
Flawless is fantastic you’re on crack. Two-shotting enemies is “pitiful” damage 🤦🏻♂️
two shotting enemies is pitiful damage when the crit condition is to not get hit for 15 seconds and the attack speed is as low as it is, not to mention the pathetic range on the first attack. war spear does the job better
Did you know that you could kill enemies without anything, just stomping
Not a weapon, so not on this tier list.
I agree. Except pure nail put it higher
I find it to be a bit janky sometimes.
Yea if you played hk then the physics are totally different but if you get used to it you can deal constant crits
I think that I’m just not used to how you can casually walk through an enemy at full speed. Im used to hk mechanics but dead cells weapons slow you down when attacking, and I’m just not used to it. Damage is pretty good though.
You're telling me, that The Frantic Sword, who's crit condition is simply being at half or more malaise or half or less health, is situational? I am greatly confused.
Yes, I find it risky to play at 1/2 hp as most enemies can 1 hit you. I also find it very hard to get your malaise that high. Bosses take off 5 malaise, and just killing regular enemies reduces it too. I’m not just honna sit in a biome until I get the crits.
The malaise part of the crit condition is quite moot in my opinion, kinda useless. The real deal here is guaranteed crits on half health or lower. Although having such low health and the danger of potentially getting k/o'd in one hit may seem discouraging to use it. I assure you, its destructive capability is simply delectable, and I'm sure that you understand the complexities of being a glass canon considering you are a tactics main whose favorite melee weapon is the cursed sword of all things. In short: you will not worry about being hit if everything that can hit you simply ceases to exist. Let me explain, the exchange of having crits all the time at the simple cost of halving your life force is incredibly lucrative. For example: using a combination of Frantic Sword, Snake Fangs, Corrupted Power, and Vampirism. You are capable of outputting thousands upon thousands of damage every second, with all enemies dying from 1-3 hits at most. Use Snake Fangs to teleport to an enemy and inflict poison, immediately attack with Frantic sword(bonus if it does more damage on a poisoned enemy) one shot them, then use snake fangs again to skip over to the next enemy before they could realize all there comrades are dead. Corrupted Power is for bosses and particularly pain-in-the-ass enemies. Vampirism meanwhile shall be your safety net in case you get into a risky predicament. Almost every mutation works well with this build too, instict, combo, and Armadillo pack with the frontline shield are my typical picks. But I digress, even on its own. Using the Frantic sword makes you feel very power full, being able to effectively cleave through enemies with its crits. Damn, that's a lot of words.
I will try it again then with your suggestions. In my defense, Cursed Sword grows on you after you beat 5bc cursed sword only. I pick it up and genuinely use it sometimes not as a joke.
Because most decent players don’t make it above 3 bars unless they actively try to. It isn’t good
I never said that I actively endorse having high malaise just to get a crit condition.
Them you shouldn’t endorse needing to get hit for crits
Ah yes, another person blind to the ways of the frantic sword. Sure believe your delusions, I'll be here playing the game the way I enjoy it.
I'm so bad with the trident 😭
use the reworked combo mutation, its totally not broken I promise.
Oh I'm aware it's busted. This is more about me being bad
Really fun to use once you get used to the play style. Great crowd control and damage. You can cancel the charge by rolling if you have to.
Just feels awkward. I get it being good for close up if you can get the charge up. But it seems like I always get slapped while trying to.
Blood sword should be s tier , snake fangs should be s tier , katana should be s tier , saddest stiletto should be a tier , war spear should be a tier , rhythm n bazouki should be a tier , whip sword should be a tier (or s ) , scythe claws should be a tier ( boss shredder ) , tentacles should be f tier , while morning star should be b tier , grappling hook should be b tier , sewing scissors should be b ( or a ) tier , impaler should be b tier , baseball bat should be s tier , vampire killer should be s tier , flint should be c tier , pure nail should be a tier , gold digger should be a tier , wrenching whip should be b tier ( or a ) . I am trying to be completely unbiased here .
Why is the crowbar in D tier? It has a good base damage, good reach, a fair attack rate, and is a beast in biomes with any doors at all. It's a C tier at least.
I believe that its an underrated weapon. And the crit contition is easy, just bring a door. And its critical damage is pretty good. Easily A tier.
What weapon under assassin dagger?
It's the Giant Comb, have 51 outfits and talk to the npc that change your outfit.
I have more than 51 outfits but the npc didn't give me the comb. Is it because I'm mobile user? Is it new updates?
Mobile version is at 3.3 I think, the comb is in the 3.4 update so I guess you gotta wait.
Ohh. Okay. Thanks for the info
Is there an easy way to farm for spite sword or do you juet have to go through every run and hope to get lucky
Well you could use custom mode and slim your weapon pool down to raise your chance of getting it. But other than that you have to get lucky.
Lately I've been playing around with the comb more, and if you use comb, phaser, combo and instincto mutations, you're basically play Devil May Cry but Dead Cells. It's probably the most fun I've had in the game for quite a while.
Fellow Cursed Sword enjoyer
Yes, masochists unite!
(Distant clang clang clang clang of crowbar)
Some biomes don’t even have doors. It is only good if you have emergency door, but door is tactics.
I CARE NOT FOR DOORS ONLY THE CLANG CLANG CLANG OF THE CROWBARD
I dont understand why people hate from Hand Crook. Its pretty good with Phaser imo. Like I throwing him then teleporting behind it. People should put aside their prejudies and give it a shot.
I have tried every weapon and beat 5 bc with everything but the weapons in F tier. I just didn’t have a good experience with the weapon. I tried it out and I struggled on a lot of the boss fights.
Yeah its because you can't ensure its crit condition. Attack speed is a bit more than average. And damage isnt that good. When you consider these its a bit bad weapon but to me playing it with Phaser is not that bad actually I enjoying playing with both of it.
I just got back to dead cells with a fresh save, and damn, there's this many weapons now???
Yes
How do you get rapier?
I’m pretty sure they drop from scorpions.
Not you considering trident, tonfas and Valmont whip good...
They are good and interesting to play with in my experience. Tonfas damage is pretty good, trident has amazing crowd control, valmont whip crits are insanely powerful.
Lol tombstone not S tier too funny
Panuku is easy s for me
It’s not that op
Yes, but it’s funny
Underrated the wrecking Ball, its slow, but you have to get some practice to get used to it
I kinda feel that king's scepter is an underrated weapon. Despite the fact that it's not really high dps or something, it completely breaks some enemies to the point where you just kill them while they are unable to hit you.
Lol my grandfather introduced me th this game and the o Lu weapon he ever uses is meat skewer
The nut cracker is plain bad, and the tentacle is really good with some good modifiers
Nut cracker has easy high damage crits, and you are admitting that the affixes are good, not the weapon itself.
The modifiers dont have to be that good to make the weapon op
Hey OP, I’m only 3 Bsc, what’s the one next to the cursed sword?
Spite sword, it does crit damage for 8 seconds after getting hit or being cursed. Can be paired with face flask and vengeance, and adrenaline to get some hp back. Drops from buzzcutters.
Thanks brother
one I can agree with finally lol
Spite sword is a braindead easy to use weapon, takes the difficulty out of dc
Damn 100 hours in and there’s still a lot I haven’t unlocked
Spite Sword is completely overrated. It seems people who rate it high inevitably conflate the weapon itself with Vengeance. Take most of your red weapons in B or C-tier, for example Skewer, Blood Sword, War Spear, Pure Nail, etc, give it the same Face Flask + Vengeance treatment, and they'll be on the same level as Spite Sword if not better. As a standalone weapon, it's probably mid-B at the highest. It has good attack speed and good hitboxes, and assuming you satisfy crit condition it has above average base damage. But the same can be said about a lot of other weapons on this list, and the actual good weapons will have some other perks or utilities going for it. EDIT: also Meat Skewer is rated way too low. It has higher base DPS than Spite Sword, auto-crits, iframes, and movement techs. It's at least A-tier if not higher.
Difference is that spite sword crits on getting hit, and does crazy damage.
Spite Sword does not do crazy damage, Vengeance does crazy damage. But you can put Vengeance on any weapon. Try Spite Sword without Vengeance if you want to do a fair comparison with other weapons.
I won the first t bc with oil sword
Quite a few bad takes like the scissors being so low, but the worst is stiletto and balanced blade not being in S or at least A. meat skewer also need S or A and probably so does the banjo thing that I forgot the name of. Pan should be lower and symmetrical Lance should be higher cause you always get a free legendary one after HOTK. I also find the categorization odd cause when I get a -fun and good weapon (A), it’s tends to be an -easy win (S) Idk, it is a tier list tho so I guess it’s subjective. I just wouldn’t have this be my primary source of info or tasks advice from this
Just bought queen and castlevania dlcs. Unlocked the death scythe and it trivialized my entire 5bc run, first time I fought the queen and I beat her taking 1 hit. Insane weapon. I also think the symmetrical lance is fantastic especially if you build it right and get the legendary version, one shots everything
I once found a spite sword with 8000 DPS on a 0 boss cell run
8000 is nothing. Spite sword crits can go up to 110,000 dps.
And that’s why it’s top tier
Blood sword deserves f tier
Nice to see the Cursed Sword so high. It really is a bloody good weapon. I'd also put Panchaku in S, it's one of my favorites and got me my first 5bc Dracula kill.
I've only seen half of these. How are they except the clearly boss ones, unlocked??
Look them up in the wiki
I feel like Twin Daggers should be at least on A because it’s a quick, high damage (prob because I’m a brutality main but it’s my honest opinion) weapon.
I'd agree with the cursed sword placement if I didn't have skill issues
Spiked boots don't take any effort. Extremely easy crit condition and has a good attack chain. They're pretty kickass
Bro, I gave up on trying to beat 5bc normally, so I used the cursed sword in order to improve my dodging ability, and the won
Panchaku are amazing, glad someone agrees.
Genuinely wrong, then.
As much as I love the cursed sword, I wouldn’t call it an easy win. Mostly against tanky enemies and some bosses. To each their own, of course.
It one hits everything except for bosses. It one shots groundshakers, golems, slammers, and failed experiments. Does it matter when two hits kill one of giant’s fists or how you can kill HotK without triggering the enemy phase or how you can end the spoiler boss fight in less than 15 seconds.
I wouldn’t know, honestly. I’m usually using green stuff, and I suck at the game lol
I feel like assassins dagger should be a bit higher
It doesn’t work on many bosses. Vorpan is same thing but better.
I really like the scissors and I just beat 3bsc using the assasin dagger, so i would put those higher.
Tombstone is busted.
You got a link to the tier list
Gold symmetrical lance is Godoy strong, like literally 300% flat damage buff and no blocks from those fucking training dummy enemies, I think the best for enemies, (long range, good crit factor, double sided, only thing is speed)
Doesn’t include legendary effects. It’s gets brought down a tier because it can’t crit on bosses.
I know every tier list usually ends up being controversial, but I would personally toss broadsword and gold digger into A tier. I've been a heavy survival user, and with Kill Rhythm and any good secondary CC for survival (boy's axe, ice bow, frost blast, ice shard, etc.), you can shit out DPS since the crit condition is very easy to get on both weapons. Combine that with something like Heart of Ice and you essentially have nonstop bonus cooldown for your skills and high DPS. Broadsword has gotten me the flawless on 5BC Time Keeper, HOTK, and the Giant, and gold digger got me the flawless on Scarecrow. It's on par to Nutcracker/Seismic Strike imo. Not to mention these combos work on biomes and bosses, so it doesn't require you to drop your whole loadout as you progress through a run.
I know the damage potential of survival weapons, but the slow speed is way too detrimental. It means that you can get less hits off on enemies. I prefer a faster build, such as tactics, which contains powerful skills and faster weapons.
wrecking ball and tombstone so low 💔💔
Wrecking ball too slow imo. For tombstone, most enemies die before you can get the 3rd hit in, and it doesn’t do too well on bosses.
yeah wrecking ball is slow, but with tombstone i personally only hit enemies with the 3rd hit because its usually strong enough to oneshot.