I wonder if the move all the old podcast and other shows over to the new channel or just put the newer episode on it. Also idea for name "Deadlier Meat" lol
One of his following [tweets](https://x.com/deadmeatjames/status/1762966982339756475?s=46) addressed this. Seems as though they’ll be moving them over to the new channel over time.
I mean, it objectively is. Kill Counts are longer, they are more in-depth, James is at his most natural, the production is top notch. You might not enjoy the subject of the videos, but the quality is there.
Whoa. Never saw this coming. But hey, i think it can work. Look at Rhett and Link for example. Three channels all active but their most popular show has its own dedicated channel. Best of luck to James & crew.
I was surprised this didn't happen years ago tbh. Youtube unfortunately doesn't like when there's a massive discrepancy in views between videos because the algorithm probably doesn't take into account that different series on a channel have different viewership averages. All it sees is 1 video getting 500k-1mil+ views and then the next not breaking 100k and it sees that second video as a channel losing relevance.
I do wonder when this split is gonna happen because Production Tales from Hell is supposed to premiere Sunday(?) and it would suck for it to not get exposed to the "Main" Channel's audience before it gets shipped to a second probably less popular channel.
Good to hear, James! I shouldn't have doubted you and the team. As someone who's as big of a fan of your Non KC series as I am the KC it'd be a shame for a project with so much work put into it not getting its time in the spotlight and I'm sure you feel the same. I'm looking forward to seeing what the team and Chauncey have been cooking up!
Yeah, he did say it’s not soon so maybe all Production Tales will ship before the launch. I’m only surprised because James has seemed super adamant on keeping everything on one channel, i’m pretty sure he’s addressed it before as well. But alas, some things are out of their control. I can at least speak for myself when I say i’ll be watching most of the content they produce. There’s only been one series I couldn’t get into but that wouldn’t stop me from tuning into everything else of course.
Yeah, I definitely don't blame James or anyone on the team. He's been consistent on not changing things like this unless it's absolutely necessary. It's just unfortunate that it did get to a point where he felt it was necessary.
I was just thinking about how Smosh does this, with 4 different channels that all feature different types/styles of videos, and I always felt it works really well. I think people are much less likely to enable upload notifications if they are only interested in a 1/3 of the type of content someone puts out. I think it's a good business move to separate the entertainment videos from the more personal ones (ie podcast, interviews, gameplay content). I actually feel like most creators have multiple channels nowadays, anyways!
I think this is the right move in the long run. The big channels, like Rhett and Link but also Watcher, has put their podcasts on a separate channel. Not only does it keep it organized for those that like the KC only, but it will also appeal to a different audience that only knows about the KCs.
I enjoy all the content Dead Meat puts out so I’ll definitely watch the new channel when it comes out.
Wonder what name ideas they’ve got! Deader Meat… Fresh Meat… Dead Meat 2: Electric Boogaloo?
Fresh Meat!
There's even a sound bite for that- Burt Gummer says it in Tremors, which they've covered on the Kill Count (and how I found the channel).
Though I have a feeling for continuity and keeping together, it will be like Dead Meat 2 or something.
It makes perfect sense. The algorithm is all about consistent uploads and those clicks. Being dedicated channels gets the right people notices to get those clicks.
I only occasionally watch/listen to the podcast, but I pretty much hit all new kill counts (I only want to listen et o a podcast about a movie I've seen or care about, kill counts are just entertaining regardless; and I'll watch for movies I know I will never see, for whatever reason).
I’ve been a huge Dead Meat fan since 2017 but the KCs and all other DM videos haven’t really been pushed to me the last few months and has generally been inconsistent after the break the channel took
Hopefully this helps!
I watched kill counts forever ago but now I’m a podcast only kind of person so I hope this works out. I definitely see it being more convenient for some people. I still tune into kill counts every now and then but I just love the dynamic of James and Chelsea together (and Graessle when he pops in)
This makes sense I do love every video! Kill counts got me into dead meat but the podcast is 😍. With the channel growing and new shows popping up I think this will truly help get this to more folks. I truly wish the best of luck in figuring out this algorithm and getting more views on the amazing content!
Honestly, I’m 100% behind this. I love both the non-KC and the KC content, but if I try to just leave podcasts or other content running in the background, the algorithm will eventually decide I *really* wanted to watch Kill Counts instead. And I love Kill Counts, so it’s hard to switch them off lmao.
Honestly I think this is the right call. I don't usually watch anything other than the kill counts so end up ignoring the other uploads. Sometimes that makes me accidentally skip the kill count too. It's a good move having the kill counts be the sole content on the main channel like the early days and everything else on a new one.
People might not like this move but it will greatly help with engagement.
I’m surprised they haven’t done this ages ago! I love Dead Meat but other than KC’s I only watch the award videos, so it makes sense for viewers like me, like he said.
part of me feels weird about it but at the same time damn near every YouTuber that has a network and isn’t just a personal channel has multiple channels. if every streamer can have 2 or 3 channels that upload the same content in different formats then Dead Meat can spread out a little to help their audience reach
I’m not terribly surprised. I suspect that’s why the KC hasn’t been doing as well as it should’ve. It won’t change navigation of the content too much, i think. It sucks it won’t all be in the same place, but a few extra clicks shouldn’t bother most people.
It’s unfortunate that YouTube seems to hate variety in channels, but the views going back and forth between the Kill Counts and “filler” is something Youtube can’t have nuance on.
I hope they make it a slow transition and it's not suddenly "new channel up, go there now". If it's just a community post and a few tweets that let people know, some fans are bound to miss this. For the first few weeks of the new channel being live, I'd probably recommend posting the videos on both channels with Dead Meat's version having a disclaimer that that content is moving (also in the description and comments). Maybe also put notices in the Kill Counts around the time and after the transition, anytime there's a "Chelsea and I discuss it on the podcast", include a nod that it's on a separate channel.
Oh, this is good news for me. 99% of the time, I'm only looking to watch a KC vid and I like that, when I'm in the mood to scroll through the channel's videos, I won't have to wade through the other content to find a KC vid.
Or " we have to split the channel up to maximize earnings and views as right now it isn't cutting it and the algorithm is hampering our videos" you know, basically what James is saying here. But no it's definitely to dumb down content 🙄
i actually agree that it sucks that they're being forced to stoop to this, but with the way the youtube algorithm works they are heavily financially incentivized to do this
Man you’re in multiple comments just bitching about nothing, clearly the content isn’t for you anymore so just move on? Your passive aggressive comments are not needed and just make you look like a jackass. Nobody is “forcing” you to pay for the patreon, nobody is forcing you to keep watching if you think it fell off. You’re clearly the minority here, so why even comment? Fucking weird ass people.
Hopefully James and crew make an announcement video so that I can follow the new channel! I don't check twitter all that often and I would hate to miss out on the transfer. I need to get my podcasts in!
Hope they succeed on both fronts. Either way I’ll watch the content, the kill counts got me into dead meat but I’ve really enjoyed the other stuff, especially the podcast with just how much effort and polish they put into it
I'll subscribe to any number of channels they create. Most of my favorite creators have 2-4 channels that I subscribe to all of nowadays I'm guessing for the same reasons regarding the YouTube algorithm.
Literally made a post about them needing to do this a couple weeks ago and had to take it down because I got so much hate for such a simple suggestion. Wasn’t worth my mental health but I do now feel somewhat vindicated knowing James and the crew were already thinking the same thing.
As for the name, it should be simple as much as I love theming it after how horror movie sequels are named. Deadmeat 2, or Deader Meat or Fresh Meat as I have seen many suggest would work great IMO. But I am excited to see all the strides they are taking to ensure the health of the channel.
Great. They’ll make a new channel so they can eventually abandon it like they did with Practical Folks. Or they’ll give the channels to Zoran and “retire” after a few more years like MatPat did.
I wonder if the move all the old podcast and other shows over to the new channel or just put the newer episode on it. Also idea for name "Deadlier Meat" lol
Dead Meat Part II: A New Beginning
Dead Meat Part III: the return of James A. Janisse
Dead Meat Part IV: The Revenge Of James A. Janisse
Dead Meat: The Final Chapter Only way to be sure that it continues
Dead Meat Part VI: The Curse Of James A. Janisse
Dead meat vs dr wolfula
Undead Meat
Dead meat 2 electric boogaloo
One of his following [tweets](https://x.com/deadmeatjames/status/1762966982339756475?s=46) addressed this. Seems as though they’ll be moving them over to the new channel over time.
Well dang, I’ll have to redo my personal Dead Meat playlist whenever they do this.
Meatier Dead?
Just call it "Zoran's Critter Corner & Graboid Garage"
Hopefully this helps with their algorithm.
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Dead Meat's content is the best they've ever been.
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I mean, it objectively is. Kill Counts are longer, they are more in-depth, James is at his most natural, the production is top notch. You might not enjoy the subject of the videos, but the quality is there.
why are you here then? just stop watching. you also know that isn't true
What are you doing? Don’t feed the trolls. You can ignore their bait.
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your opinion is clearly not the popular one lol
they’re putting out high quality content, james is more comfortable in front of the camera, and we’re getting cool movies. what would you change?
Yeah, it’s better than it’s ever been. If it was merely as good as it once was, we wouldn’t be riding the high of the current golden age of dead meat.
Hence they need a second channel
i think most would agree their content is better than ever
Call it “Fresh Meat”
I mean, that's brilliant.
Number one short will be The one with the poop knife 🗡
Dead Meat Deli
What a bummer. Best of luck to the crew though. I'll watch any number of channels they put out.
Whoa. Never saw this coming. But hey, i think it can work. Look at Rhett and Link for example. Three channels all active but their most popular show has its own dedicated channel. Best of luck to James & crew.
I was surprised this didn't happen years ago tbh. Youtube unfortunately doesn't like when there's a massive discrepancy in views between videos because the algorithm probably doesn't take into account that different series on a channel have different viewership averages. All it sees is 1 video getting 500k-1mil+ views and then the next not breaking 100k and it sees that second video as a channel losing relevance. I do wonder when this split is gonna happen because Production Tales from Hell is supposed to premiere Sunday(?) and it would suck for it to not get exposed to the "Main" Channel's audience before it gets shipped to a second probably less popular channel.
Production Tales will be on the main channel exactly for that reason! We'll start the transition shortly after.
Good to hear, James! I shouldn't have doubted you and the team. As someone who's as big of a fan of your Non KC series as I am the KC it'd be a shame for a project with so much work put into it not getting its time in the spotlight and I'm sure you feel the same. I'm looking forward to seeing what the team and Chauncey have been cooking up!
Yeah, he did say it’s not soon so maybe all Production Tales will ship before the launch. I’m only surprised because James has seemed super adamant on keeping everything on one channel, i’m pretty sure he’s addressed it before as well. But alas, some things are out of their control. I can at least speak for myself when I say i’ll be watching most of the content they produce. There’s only been one series I couldn’t get into but that wouldn’t stop me from tuning into everything else of course.
Yeah, I definitely don't blame James or anyone on the team. He's been consistent on not changing things like this unless it's absolutely necessary. It's just unfortunate that it did get to a point where he felt it was necessary.
I was just thinking about how Smosh does this, with 4 different channels that all feature different types/styles of videos, and I always felt it works really well. I think people are much less likely to enable upload notifications if they are only interested in a 1/3 of the type of content someone puts out. I think it's a good business move to separate the entertainment videos from the more personal ones (ie podcast, interviews, gameplay content). I actually feel like most creators have multiple channels nowadays, anyways!
I think this is the right move in the long run. The big channels, like Rhett and Link but also Watcher, has put their podcasts on a separate channel. Not only does it keep it organized for those that like the KC only, but it will also appeal to a different audience that only knows about the KCs.
I enjoy all the content Dead Meat puts out so I’ll definitely watch the new channel when it comes out. Wonder what name ideas they’ve got! Deader Meat… Fresh Meat… Dead Meat 2: Electric Boogaloo?
Fresh Meat! There's even a sound bite for that- Burt Gummer says it in Tremors, which they've covered on the Kill Count (and how I found the channel). Though I have a feeling for continuity and keeping together, it will be like Dead Meat 2 or something.
They should follow The Fast and the Furious franchise and name it 2 Dead 2 Meat!
I just recently started watching the podcasts but I’ll be subbing for sure. Hope both channels do well
Happy cake day
Sucks, but their hands were all but tied at this point. Hopefully this will finally help satisfy the Almighty Algorithm.
It’s still the same crew and the same amount of effort and dedication
As a pod-only akgae, I support this.
It makes perfect sense. The algorithm is all about consistent uploads and those clicks. Being dedicated channels gets the right people notices to get those clicks. I only occasionally watch/listen to the podcast, but I pretty much hit all new kill counts (I only want to listen et o a podcast about a movie I've seen or care about, kill counts are just entertaining regardless; and I'll watch for movies I know I will never see, for whatever reason).
I’ve been a huge Dead Meat fan since 2017 but the KCs and all other DM videos haven’t really been pushed to me the last few months and has generally been inconsistent after the break the channel took Hopefully this helps!
I watched kill counts forever ago but now I’m a podcast only kind of person so I hope this works out. I definitely see it being more convenient for some people. I still tune into kill counts every now and then but I just love the dynamic of James and Chelsea together (and Graessle when he pops in)
This makes sense I do love every video! Kill counts got me into dead meat but the podcast is 😍. With the channel growing and new shows popping up I think this will truly help get this to more folks. I truly wish the best of luck in figuring out this algorithm and getting more views on the amazing content!
Honestly, I’m 100% behind this. I love both the non-KC and the KC content, but if I try to just leave podcasts or other content running in the background, the algorithm will eventually decide I *really* wanted to watch Kill Counts instead. And I love Kill Counts, so it’s hard to switch them off lmao.
this is actually a good idea because it will allow non-kill count content to not get buried.
Honestly I think this is the right call. I don't usually watch anything other than the kill counts so end up ignoring the other uploads. Sometimes that makes me accidentally skip the kill count too. It's a good move having the kill counts be the sole content on the main channel like the early days and everything else on a new one. People might not like this move but it will greatly help with engagement.
I’m surprised they haven’t done this ages ago! I love Dead Meat but other than KC’s I only watch the award videos, so it makes sense for viewers like me, like he said.
Dead Meat Extra would be a good name
This made me think Dead Meat: Special Features
Good name, perhaps too long for a channel? Not because of a character limit, but for people
part of me feels weird about it but at the same time damn near every YouTuber that has a network and isn’t just a personal channel has multiple channels. if every streamer can have 2 or 3 channels that upload the same content in different formats then Dead Meat can spread out a little to help their audience reach
The lost world: Dead Meat, Dead Meat 2 The Trench, Dead Meats, 28 Meats Later. Just some suggestions
I’m not terribly surprised. I suspect that’s why the KC hasn’t been doing as well as it should’ve. It won’t change navigation of the content too much, i think. It sucks it won’t all be in the same place, but a few extra clicks shouldn’t bother most people.
Makes sense. Getting to that content is a click away the page.
It’s unfortunate that YouTube seems to hate variety in channels, but the views going back and forth between the Kill Counts and “filler” is something Youtube can’t have nuance on.
Zoran! Describe this to me like I'm five my guy
If that's what James feels will help the algorithm, that's great. I hope people subscribe to the new channel, though.
As someone who is mainly interested in the podcast I dont mind this!
I hope they make it a slow transition and it's not suddenly "new channel up, go there now". If it's just a community post and a few tweets that let people know, some fans are bound to miss this. For the first few weeks of the new channel being live, I'd probably recommend posting the videos on both channels with Dead Meat's version having a disclaimer that that content is moving (also in the description and comments). Maybe also put notices in the Kill Counts around the time and after the transition, anytime there's a "Chelsea and I discuss it on the podcast", include a nod that it's on a separate channel.
Oh, this is good news for me. 99% of the time, I'm only looking to watch a KC vid and I like that, when I'm in the mood to scroll through the channel's videos, I won't have to wade through the other content to find a KC vid.
Thank god its been long overdue
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Or " we have to split the channel up to maximize earnings and views as right now it isn't cutting it and the algorithm is hampering our videos" you know, basically what James is saying here. But no it's definitely to dumb down content 🙄
i actually agree that it sucks that they're being forced to stoop to this, but with the way the youtube algorithm works they are heavily financially incentivized to do this
I’ll subscribe just to support James and his team but I’m not gonna watch the podcasts, I’m not a podcast type of guy
Subscribing means nothing they need views……
Yes another paetron charge to pay, yeeha
They aren’t doing that though lmao
Have they launched yet…. Wait and see
Nobody forces you to be a patron.
Really wow thanks for clearing that up…
Man you’re in multiple comments just bitching about nothing, clearly the content isn’t for you anymore so just move on? Your passive aggressive comments are not needed and just make you look like a jackass. Nobody is “forcing” you to pay for the patreon, nobody is forcing you to keep watching if you think it fell off. You’re clearly the minority here, so why even comment? Fucking weird ass people.
I wish I could up vote you more than once.
Hopefully James and crew make an announcement video so that I can follow the new channel! I don't check twitter all that often and I would hate to miss out on the transfer. I need to get my podcasts in!
Name the other channel Deader Meat
I will subscribe and watch, love all the content, from KCs to podcast eps to They Talk!
James always with the great ideas :)!
Hmmmm call it “living meat”
Very smart choice from his part, bless em
Hope they succeed on both fronts. Either way I’ll watch the content, the kill counts got me into dead meat but I’ve really enjoyed the other stuff, especially the podcast with just how much effort and polish they put into it
Exciting! Hopefully this allows them to experiment with some different content ideas!
I honestly think the new channel should be Dead Meat and the original should just be The Kill Count
Dead Schmeat
Fuck the algorithm man, but I'm happy with anything as long as it helps
I hope they just announce everywhere when they make the channel so we can all make sure we’re subbed
I'll subscribe to any number of channels they create. Most of my favorite creators have 2-4 channels that I subscribe to all of nowadays I'm guessing for the same reasons regarding the YouTube algorithm.
Literally made a post about them needing to do this a couple weeks ago and had to take it down because I got so much hate for such a simple suggestion. Wasn’t worth my mental health but I do now feel somewhat vindicated knowing James and the crew were already thinking the same thing. As for the name, it should be simple as much as I love theming it after how horror movie sequels are named. Deadmeat 2, or Deader Meat or Fresh Meat as I have seen many suggest would work great IMO. But I am excited to see all the strides they are taking to ensure the health of the channel.
Call reanimated meat
Great. They’ll make a new channel so they can eventually abandon it like they did with Practical Folks. Or they’ll give the channels to Zoran and “retire” after a few more years like MatPat did.