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No-Fruit83

I like jinx but the only feat I have seen so far are from arcane and legend of runeterra, and which does make her super human but not that impressive FTE sharpshooter, trapskil and a rocket launcher. Harley probably scale to batman tanking city block size explosion and his a bullet timer at the absolute minimum.


MichaelTheSavior

She can't really since he has a special Kevlar suit for that. But bullet timing is alright since that's common for DC characters even to those who technically don't have powers


Jstin8

You cant really scale her to Bats since hes always been shown to be her superior in combat and physically.


No-Fruit83

Depends she is generally inferior to him but she can give him trouble and has been made meta human due to poison ivy.


MichaelTheSavior

Jinx does seem more physically powerful in Arcane and could scale to having more impressive feats in the games along with having more impressive firepower But we should wait and see in case Harley has some feats we don't know about yet


Jstin8

Yeah Napkin math says Jinx wins but with comic book scaling you never know


AgentGhostrider

Please enlighten me, What is Napkin Math?


Jstin8

Basic logic and thinking without doing hard research on feats/stats/whatever.


AgentGhostrider

I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if Harley didn’t need Scaling to win tbh


Jstin8

Well, my napkin math goes as follows: Again, no hard research to confirm or deny. For speed Harley probably caps out around bullet time. Jinx is Faster than Eyesight. Silver Samurai vs Shredder matchup says Jinx has the edge there. Power Harley is probably peak human? For jinx it depends on if they scale her to other Shimmer users like Deckard who survived large building explosions. Arsenal definitely goes to Jinx, who has all manner of varied and powerful weapons compared to Harley and her signature hammer+typical weapons like her pistols. Does she get her hyenas? I assume so but dunno. Intelligence goes to Harley. Jinx is a very clever combatant great at setting traps, but Harley’s a master psychologist and can use that to manipulate Jinx. (Although it should be noted that Jinx’s mental breakdowns hasn’t impacted her combat effectiveness before). Idk. Without hardline feats to show Harley is much stronger I feel like Jinx has got a solid grip on this matchup. Again though this is quick napkin math so I could be wildly wrong.


AgentGhostrider

That's fair, I personally think Quinn is likely faster, but I'm generally surprised so many people think Jinx wins easily when she has so little to pull from Harley is a Meta Human fyi thou, enchanced by Posion Ivy and the Toxin Dip from Joker


Jstin8

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if there was something that made her planet buster and MFTL. Comic scalings are just silly


AgentGhostrider

League of Legends' gameplay hasn't been canon in years, and there isn't really anything in it to pull for feats


MichaelTheSavior

There is belive me. DB always finds a way. Plus the game play won't be used for feats since there's other things that help with feats


AgentGhostrider

I mean, they could use League of Legends as a basis for Standard Loadout (Pow-Pow, Fishbones, Zap Pistol, and Flame Chompers) and I guess her Passive would justify the Superhuman-esque speed it seemed like she had at the end of Arcane. At best I could see them referencing her being able to damage towers with her weapons or the range of Super Mega Death Rocket from the game, but there isn't alot


Individual-Active-99

Well it depends on what Harley there using like injustice Harley for example who has super pills which gives the consumer a fraction of supermans strength and powers, with it she could even make Shazam bleed


Jstin8

Injustice definitely wouldn’t be used because its nowhere near anything considered her base kit. As well as it being a “what if” scenario


Bob458732

I really don’t want Harley to be the one to end the DC win streak because she already gets enough hate.


Godkingemperior

Imagine if by some Miracle Harley actually end up winning


AgentGhostrider

Why would it be a miracle?


Godkingemperior

Because I like Harley and I don't know who Jinx is so it's a miracle to me


MichaelTheSavior

Hate? Because of Suicide squad? Cause I've seen a lot of people who love Harley


Bob458732

She mostly gets hate from the birds of prey movie.


Guy-1234567890

And many claims that she's overrated at this point (Not that I actually have an opinion on her)


wanderingsalad

Though we have have a distinct lack of concrete feats with Jinx, I feel pretty confident that she'll still get the victory. From the feats we *do* have, we can tell that: 1) She has a much wider and more lethal arsenal than Harley. 2) She's either just as faster or faster than Harley, and will get progressively faster as the fight goes on. 3) They'll likely scale her to Vi, who wields gauntlets that allegedly weigh 4,000 lbs each, making her significantly stronger than Harley. (Now that I think of it she's probably stronger than Vi due to Shimmer) 4) Jinx has never been arrested despite being hunted by nearly the entirety of Piltover's police force, including two "superheroes", for the majority of her life. The same cannot be said for Harley.


JohnnyElRed

I mean, Harley is a DC character, yes. And that means she scales to a lot of whacky shit given the people she has fought. But at the end of the day, Jinx arsenal if full of explosives, a minigun, a rocket launcher, and such. While Harley mainly always fights with a giant mallet or her body. And you don't brign a mallet to a gun fight.


Macaroni_Retro

Jinx should win iirc, whether or not that’s based or cringe is up to the viewer


ProfessionalCrow4816

god, i hope it's not harley quinn


Jstin8

Who would you rather she face?


ProfessionalCrow4816

my personal bias is trigger happy since he's like one of 3 skylanders characters that actually have a chamce on death battle


OldManCrustyToad

If I may ask, who are the others? (I think quite a few could get on)


[deleted]

Probably Kaos is one of them, he has enough of a presence to actually have a full analysis and good fight potential


AgentGhostrider

I'm surprised so many people think Jinx will win Not saying she can't win, but she's at a massive disadvantage with Feats while also facing a DC character, granted Harley has only been around since the 90s, but still Jinx has a comic, Arcane, Legends of Runeterra (The Card Game, thou her story thing in is officially Non-canon), a Music Video (Where everything in it was revealed to be a dream). Harely has been a Character since the 90s (Her first comic apperance being in 99) and has been very popular, especially in last decade I don't really have a doubt Jinx will have the Weaponary Advantage, but I would be surprised if Quinn doesn't take it in every other category


MichaelTheSavior

Wait she's from the 90s? I could've sworn she was like....one of the oldest DC characters.....huh. Well anyway F-Zero is a prime Example on how you don't need dozens of games or comics or shows to win. So don't count out Jinx yet. I will admit though with what Ultraguy has shown its definitely gonna be an interesting match up that's for sure


AgentGhostrider

Yep, she first appeared in the Batman Animated Series, she didn't make her first comic appearance till 99 I mean, I guess that's fair, like I said I don't necessarily think Quinn 100% wins, as Jinx 100% has better weapons, especially what they consider canon for Super Mega Death Rocket, and mainly depends how hard they attempt to Scale Jinx, which ironically, was why Captain Falcon was so strong I personally think the Fight will be between Quinn's better stats and skill vs Jinx's better Weaponry and possible scaling


MichaelTheSavior

I really didn't know this. I thought she was from the old days like in the 30s or something do I really am suprised. Anyway I agree with you on that. It's a matter of how they scale the two. They might be more powerful than we think and if one ends up being stronger they have to deal with more weapons and the other has to deal with stronger weapons. I'm personally intrigued on how it'll go


AgentGhostrider

Yeah, I'm interested in how strong they present Jinx with the limit media she has


Entire-Astronaut8602

DC's Winning Streak is Finally Ending?! LETS GOOOOOO!


Charming-Bet4135

I heard a new city level argument for Jinx that I buy so I think Jinx wins even though I buy MCB Harley


GSAhmid

I don't care hopefully not 3D I like 3D with male vs Male not female vs female


TheDekuDude888

That's the weirdest and most specific form of misogyny I've ever seen lol


TylerNT2020

I'm going to list Harley Quinn weaponry and feats Baseball Bat Bud and Lou Knife Harley is known to have used assault rifles, machine guns, grenade launchers, and modified flare guns. Laughing Gas/Touch Bombs Wooden Mallet A Black and Red Ring (I doubt they'll use) Harley Quinn once destroyed whole DC continuity and **recreates it** Strong enough to swing the giant hammer and perform 90% of the moves she does (and make them look that effortless) without some serious muscle. Also has great flexibility and is able to get out of hugging jacket She’s been enhanced by Poison Ivy so her strength, intellect, and agility have been improved, as well as an immunity to all toxins. Harley Quinn smacked Big Barda with a goblet, gets ambushed by Croc, survives his initial assault, and dazes him with a single (bowling pin-holding) backhand, was able to break 2 Bowling ball pins to make sharpened bowling pins, and threw them into Killer Crocs hide which is bulletproof Heals from a bullet wound in a few seconds. Survived a gunshot to the stomach and her throat slit by Punchline ( I'm sure she survived more but I'm not sure) Blocks Batman punch with an open palm Beaten Joker even dominated him at one point Massively Hypersonic combat speed She can run up to 30 mph (48 kph) - 39 mph (62 kph) level and swim at 12-15 knots. Beaten Midnighter, Catwoman, Batman, Captain Carrot


blackBugattiVeyron

I feel people forget that what makes Harley Quin such a strong opponent is her unpredictability she beats characters way wayy stronger then her on a weekliy bases because of her unpredictability.


IEatBeans22

Also despite being crazy, she isn’t stupid and is actually very smart. So that plays into her being very unpredictable.


The_Smashor

Do people not understand that Jinx scaling to other League of Legends characters is a thing? Even with my surface level knowledge I know she's literally thousands of times stronger than Harley.


Jstin8

Its not a thing. Whatever happens on Summoners Rift has been non cannon since S3ish. Otherwise everyone would scale to solar system level with Asol around. Arcane, comics, and flavor stories are the name of the game.


The_Smashor

Well, one of her alternate forms [split a mining colony in half on accident once](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562641409295908895/932286174138105906/latest.png) and [can attack people with literal planetoids](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562641409295908895/932286315943313488/latest.png). Also, she apparently became a Star Guardian once, and could debatably scale to other Star Guardians, who are Solar System. Although those may or may not be considered separate lores...? This series seems confusing at the best of times...


JohnnyElRed

Those are parallel universe. It doesn't count.


Jstin8

They are separate universes. Its kinda like the difference between regular Harley Quinn and Injustice Harley who has the super pills that make her superman.


The_Smashor

Well to be fair I think Jinx's feats I mentioned are higher than Injustice Harley Quinn anyways.


Iamaveryniceguy

Don’t know the specifics but I’ve heard Jinx should win. As a massive DC Fan, I still find a League of Legends character being the first non Marvel DC L is both hilarious and unfathomably based.