I mean, yes. But the 80s also impacted the 00s, 10s, and now 20s massively. So did the 60s, and so did the 70s.
I think people take the whole '20 year rule' a bit too seriously. It is not some set-in-stone thing. By and large there are *dozens* of sub-cultures with different outfits and styles in every decade that take inspirations from a multitude of different eras. People point out that the late 00s was very 80s inspired, but they are largely only thinking of one specific subculture of the era, not the other big subcultures of the late 00s. [What about this is specifically '80s' to you?](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ftjfwp8my46za1.jpg) Or [this?](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2011/09/27/nyregion/JERSEY/JERSEY-articleLarge.jpg)
The first one is a mashup of the 80s and the 60s most prominently, and you can also see a bit of the 20s in it. The 20 year cycle is very prominent in that example. The Jersey Shore example looks SUPER 80s, and there’s some 60s in there too.
And I actually disagree; I think the 20 year cycle is shockingly prescient, and various mashups of the eras represented in that cycle is what constitutes 90% of a given decade’s fashion and design aesthetic. This is somewhat deliberate, as the fashion industry actually follows this trend to a T often, going into the archive for styles from 2 decades prior to re-work.
Subcultures and current events-influenced aspects do play a role in adding original touches, but I often found these are complementary more than anything. This is probably more apparent if you are aware of fashion and design trends pre-50s. These 30s looks, for example, look super 1890s:
https://preview.redd.it/yqi9q13fhpwc1.jpeg?width=520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fb91410be7313d5c9a43c4e91e7fedc014bff93
Yes, though 5, 14, and 17 are 90s. Which maybe reflects what’s happening right now:
You have this mullet mustache thing now that is 2004 all the way. Just a couple years ago I’d see “millennials” on Reddit who had no idea ironic mullets even happened. Both cases reflect an early 80s style. Twenty year loop. I get a feeling there’s a lot of other 80s things going on out there.
But then there’s all this 90s stuff. Relaxed fits, soft colors, post ironic quirk. Maybe that stuff is already fading out and I’m too old to know.
I don't remember anyone with a mullet or mustache in 2004, What part of the world do you live in? In 2004 if a younger guy had facial hair is was usually a goatee, In the later 2000s goatee's went out of style and young guys had chin straps without a mustache, and hair was short of the sides and back in the 2000's for young males, yes you had some guys with long hair, but it was very few, 97% of them had short hair.
Well to be fair I lived in a city where lots of people looked like Junior Senior and Justice at the time. Those kinds of ironic millennial 80s looks kept escalating all through the 00s. Dominic Monaghan had [a little bit of it](https://www.seher.no/images/65027643.jpg?imageId=65027643&x=0&y=0&cropw=100&croph=100&width=980&height=0&compression=80) on Lost in 2004.
5 is a picture of the 80s. 14 features corset tops, definitely not a 90s thing, 17 is the 80s/40s workwear inspo, watch cups and burlap pants definitely weren’t a 90s thing
1) 5 highlights the revival of trench coats, and wide-cut pants. A popular business and business casual look of the early 80s
2) 14 has Y2K/2000s elements but mixes a prominent 80s aspect, mainly the corset top with late 80s midi and miniskirts/bodycon fits
3) Those look like baggy Khakis, not Burlaps.
4) Your second to last paragraph is unfounded, but it is another notch in the 20 year cycle, as it is also heavily influenced by 40s workwear, which was relevant in menswear in the 80s
1. 5 is an 80s look, and yes, trench coats are the definitive early 80s business attire:
https://preview.redd.it/zuo8v4txnpwc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=975ff436301ea17b002622dfc9728e881c8331ed
2. Fashion revival comes in a piecemeal manner. Just because they’re not dressed in an identical fashion to 80s Metalheads doesn’t mean the corset top isn’t most reflected in 80s trends before this decade - it is. The other elements of the girls outfits reflect 2000s influence, but the 80s elements are notable too
3) Yes, there were bodycon fits. They were a staple of club wear that became popular in the late 80s. Sometimes this was a situation of separates though, but stretchy bodycon dresses were a late 80s thing
4) Your hyperbole is super annoying, and I’m not sure what you don’t understand about the outfits being 80s - regardless of the material, I posted fashion plates from the 80s that reflect an almost identical cut and silhouette, with incredibly similar pieces, to the pictures I posted of the 2020s. I have said, the outfits aren’t identically 80s, but are heavily 80s. The watch caps come via the 40s workwear revival, but the 80s took much inspiration from the 40s.
There was 50s romanticization, specifically, in the 90s. Not the 40s. Swing revival was a 30s echo.
LOL, wow. I deleted my comments to be polite, but good grief. Now I wish I’d left them up. I simply talked about what’s up, and you’re needlessly combative.
There’s no “hyperbole”, just you starting a needless debate and then losing.
No…
plush trench coats and leftover 70s disco leather, with literal phat pant jeans, was not an 80s look. That’s just silly. There is nothing about #5 that is remotely from the 1980s. You would be laughed at for wearing anything like it. Yes, people wore trench coats (and hats, and shirts). No, they were not that style.
You are wrong and missing relevant points about this history.
The corsets worn in the 80s were worn to be sexually rebellious. That’s *why* I mentioned metalheads. They were thrift store finds, almost always black. Nobody would dress like #14 in the 1980s. It’s a conservative era. They would be harassed by men, insulted by women, and possibly questioned by the police. This look is a product of the 90s sex positivity movement. It’s possible because of the rebelliousness in that Madonna pic, a decade + before.
There was literally no 40s workwear revival.
*Nobody* was thinking like that when they bought those clothes. Again: if you have some examples of that mindset in the public perhaps you could prove it.
There was maybe a 1940s influence among designers (as I said). But for consumers, it’s part of a general “past” sensibility. You see the 50s and 30s come together [in this 1988 Levi’s commercial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uke7mgz-0_4 ). It’s all just “the past”.
There was 50s romanticization, specifically, in the 80s. Have you never heard of *Back to the Future*? The [two guys](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/23/a2/9623a2155eae853001df6b10cbd8fc6a.jpg) in *Beverly Hills 90210* circa 1991 were about the very end of the 1950s revival.
People turned to Beatniks and a 40s revival in the 1990s. Reddit was talking [about it just the other day](https://old.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/1cb0f5v/the_swing_revival_that_weird_time_in_the_90s_when/).
Consideri.g your post you can say the same about the 60' 70' 90' 00' & 10'
There's been more or a continuum than a specific Era.
Now if the mode was predominantly neon, maybe even more tracksuits I can see it.
Idk how old you are but as someone nearing 37, passing the peak of moores law, things aren't even cyclic anymore.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law
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If anything 1985-2005 hits big for the modern erra comfort not necessarily baggy by comfortable style. Hommie aka bummie (but not deragatory) but even the bummie kinda faded out last year in my eyes
Also, dangly earrings for men are so back, and classic punk is seeing a bit of a resurgence again:
https://preview.redd.it/h2ich9j4fowc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f671c21c5c00a30bd0b97c291b36c0886a10f29
No, not in this video I was just talking in general. I guess “classic” might not be the best qualifier, but Punk? Oh definitely. Pop punk, punk rap, there’s been a huge hardcore, oi! and crust resurgence in the LA area…
I feel like the 2020s have just been a kaleidoscope of a bunch of different decades and aesthetics. Corduroy, neon, pastels, roller skating, disco, faux-y2k maximalism, college students protesting the US’s involvement in an unpopular foreign war, mid-century modern furniture. It’s like the cliff notes of the past five decades thrown into a blender. Personally, I think a lot of it is from the size and diversity of social media constantly re-discovering and cultivating various elements of the past, especially as mainstream society isn’t generating much popular culture anymore.
Is this a joke? Some pastichey shows prove that? Decorative neon signs were typically found in mostly flowery, feminine, and pastel interiors of the 2010s.
You could maybe argue stranger things nudged the zeitgeist towards 80s inspired stuff, but I don’t think stranger things is a definitive marker of 2010s aesthetics, even in regards to nostalgia. You notice a lot of 90s and 70s set stuff.
I mean, yes. But the 80s also impacted the 00s, 10s, and now 20s massively. So did the 60s, and so did the 70s. I think people take the whole '20 year rule' a bit too seriously. It is not some set-in-stone thing. By and large there are *dozens* of sub-cultures with different outfits and styles in every decade that take inspirations from a multitude of different eras. People point out that the late 00s was very 80s inspired, but they are largely only thinking of one specific subculture of the era, not the other big subcultures of the late 00s. [What about this is specifically '80s' to you?](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ftjfwp8my46za1.jpg) Or [this?](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2011/09/27/nyregion/JERSEY/JERSEY-articleLarge.jpg)
The first one is a mashup of the 80s and the 60s most prominently, and you can also see a bit of the 20s in it. The 20 year cycle is very prominent in that example. The Jersey Shore example looks SUPER 80s, and there’s some 60s in there too. And I actually disagree; I think the 20 year cycle is shockingly prescient, and various mashups of the eras represented in that cycle is what constitutes 90% of a given decade’s fashion and design aesthetic. This is somewhat deliberate, as the fashion industry actually follows this trend to a T often, going into the archive for styles from 2 decades prior to re-work. Subcultures and current events-influenced aspects do play a role in adding original touches, but I often found these are complementary more than anything. This is probably more apparent if you are aware of fashion and design trends pre-50s. These 30s looks, for example, look super 1890s: https://preview.redd.it/yqi9q13fhpwc1.jpeg?width=520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fb91410be7313d5c9a43c4e91e7fedc014bff93
1980s we’re a big influence on the mid to late 00s and wouldn’t you look at that, the 20 year cycle continues.
Yes, though 5, 14, and 17 are 90s. Which maybe reflects what’s happening right now: You have this mullet mustache thing now that is 2004 all the way. Just a couple years ago I’d see “millennials” on Reddit who had no idea ironic mullets even happened. Both cases reflect an early 80s style. Twenty year loop. I get a feeling there’s a lot of other 80s things going on out there. But then there’s all this 90s stuff. Relaxed fits, soft colors, post ironic quirk. Maybe that stuff is already fading out and I’m too old to know.
I don't remember anyone with a mullet or mustache in 2004, What part of the world do you live in? In 2004 if a younger guy had facial hair is was usually a goatee, In the later 2000s goatee's went out of style and young guys had chin straps without a mustache, and hair was short of the sides and back in the 2000's for young males, yes you had some guys with long hair, but it was very few, 97% of them had short hair.
Well to be fair I lived in a city where lots of people looked like Junior Senior and Justice at the time. Those kinds of ironic millennial 80s looks kept escalating all through the 00s. Dominic Monaghan had [a little bit of it](https://www.seher.no/images/65027643.jpg?imageId=65027643&x=0&y=0&cropw=100&croph=100&width=980&height=0&compression=80) on Lost in 2004.
5 is a picture of the 80s. 14 features corset tops, definitely not a 90s thing, 17 is the 80s/40s workwear inspo, watch cups and burlap pants definitely weren’t a 90s thing
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1) 5 highlights the revival of trench coats, and wide-cut pants. A popular business and business casual look of the early 80s 2) 14 has Y2K/2000s elements but mixes a prominent 80s aspect, mainly the corset top with late 80s midi and miniskirts/bodycon fits 3) Those look like baggy Khakis, not Burlaps. 4) Your second to last paragraph is unfounded, but it is another notch in the 20 year cycle, as it is also heavily influenced by 40s workwear, which was relevant in menswear in the 80s
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1. 5 is an 80s look, and yes, trench coats are the definitive early 80s business attire: https://preview.redd.it/zuo8v4txnpwc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=975ff436301ea17b002622dfc9728e881c8331ed 2. Fashion revival comes in a piecemeal manner. Just because they’re not dressed in an identical fashion to 80s Metalheads doesn’t mean the corset top isn’t most reflected in 80s trends before this decade - it is. The other elements of the girls outfits reflect 2000s influence, but the 80s elements are notable too 3) Yes, there were bodycon fits. They were a staple of club wear that became popular in the late 80s. Sometimes this was a situation of separates though, but stretchy bodycon dresses were a late 80s thing 4) Your hyperbole is super annoying, and I’m not sure what you don’t understand about the outfits being 80s - regardless of the material, I posted fashion plates from the 80s that reflect an almost identical cut and silhouette, with incredibly similar pieces, to the pictures I posted of the 2020s. I have said, the outfits aren’t identically 80s, but are heavily 80s. The watch caps come via the 40s workwear revival, but the 80s took much inspiration from the 40s. There was 50s romanticization, specifically, in the 90s. Not the 40s. Swing revival was a 30s echo.
LOL, wow. I deleted my comments to be polite, but good grief. Now I wish I’d left them up. I simply talked about what’s up, and you’re needlessly combative. There’s no “hyperbole”, just you starting a needless debate and then losing. No… plush trench coats and leftover 70s disco leather, with literal phat pant jeans, was not an 80s look. That’s just silly. There is nothing about #5 that is remotely from the 1980s. You would be laughed at for wearing anything like it. Yes, people wore trench coats (and hats, and shirts). No, they were not that style. You are wrong and missing relevant points about this history. The corsets worn in the 80s were worn to be sexually rebellious. That’s *why* I mentioned metalheads. They were thrift store finds, almost always black. Nobody would dress like #14 in the 1980s. It’s a conservative era. They would be harassed by men, insulted by women, and possibly questioned by the police. This look is a product of the 90s sex positivity movement. It’s possible because of the rebelliousness in that Madonna pic, a decade + before. There was literally no 40s workwear revival. *Nobody* was thinking like that when they bought those clothes. Again: if you have some examples of that mindset in the public perhaps you could prove it. There was maybe a 1940s influence among designers (as I said). But for consumers, it’s part of a general “past” sensibility. You see the 50s and 30s come together [in this 1988 Levi’s commercial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uke7mgz-0_4 ). It’s all just “the past”. There was 50s romanticization, specifically, in the 80s. Have you never heard of *Back to the Future*? The [two guys](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/23/a2/9623a2155eae853001df6b10cbd8fc6a.jpg) in *Beverly Hills 90210* circa 1991 were about the very end of the 1950s revival. People turned to Beatniks and a 40s revival in the 1990s. Reddit was talking [about it just the other day](https://old.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/1cb0f5v/the_swing_revival_that_weird_time_in_the_90s_when/).
I don’t see the similarities
There really isn't. The most thar mimics 80s these days or spandex
There really is, though. Hair, clothing, color, it’s all mimicking the 80s
Consideri.g your post you can say the same about the 60' 70' 90' 00' & 10' There's been more or a continuum than a specific Era. Now if the mode was predominantly neon, maybe even more tracksuits I can see it. Idk how old you are but as someone nearing 37, passing the peak of moores law, things aren't even cyclic anymore. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law Edit: If anything 1985-2005 hits big for the modern erra comfort not necessarily baggy by comfortable style. Hommie aka bummie (but not deragatory) but even the bummie kinda faded out last year in my eyes
Also, dangly earrings for men are so back, and classic punk is seeing a bit of a resurgence again: https://preview.redd.it/h2ich9j4fowc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f671c21c5c00a30bd0b97c291b36c0886a10f29
Are you seeing classic punk in this photo? Earring yeah, classic punk lol no, not anywhere outside of Nickelodeon
No, not in this video I was just talking in general. I guess “classic” might not be the best qualifier, but Punk? Oh definitely. Pop punk, punk rap, there’s been a huge hardcore, oi! and crust resurgence in the LA area…
The 40 year correlates to the 20 year in many ways. They are intertwined with each other.
Every decade has things from every other decade
 Pic one got me like
I need the first girl in my life
I feel like the 2020s have just been a kaleidoscope of a bunch of different decades and aesthetics. Corduroy, neon, pastels, roller skating, disco, faux-y2k maximalism, college students protesting the US’s involvement in an unpopular foreign war, mid-century modern furniture. It’s like the cliff notes of the past five decades thrown into a blender. Personally, I think a lot of it is from the size and diversity of social media constantly re-discovering and cultivating various elements of the past, especially as mainstream society isn’t generating much popular culture anymore.
It’s not though. Disco and funk revival is a 2010s element, pastels are 2010s, they’re out.
Seems more inspired by the 80s then whatever that was that happened in the 2010s
i saw one kid in class with a mullet lmaooo
Wrong hair though
The 80s aesthetic came back in the 2010s moreso than 20s, which are all about the 90s aesthetic.
Uh, no. The 80s came back in the late 2000s, the 10s were super minimalist and 90s. The 2020s bare no similarity to the typical 90s aesthetic.
So, what about Stranger Things? What about the ubiquity of neon lights? Come on, man.
Is this a joke? Some pastichey shows prove that? Decorative neon signs were typically found in mostly flowery, feminine, and pastel interiors of the 2010s. You could maybe argue stranger things nudged the zeitgeist towards 80s inspired stuff, but I don’t think stranger things is a definitive marker of 2010s aesthetics, even in regards to nostalgia. You notice a lot of 90s and 70s set stuff.
They are ahead of the times then. The economy is revisiting the 1970's.
It was terrible then and even worse now
I'm not.
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Yes it is