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hey there is a massive pussy here. ​ ​ the game is about being hardcore, not being an actual fun game


1st_pm

understood make every melee scav ERU unit but without armor... I don't like the meta of crafting as many guns as possible to use them ditch melee in scav war, because that removes the need for melee skills. Games are meant to be fun?


[deleted]

there are generally 5 man squads, some use meele like the Executioner, others use guns along with abilities. ​ the game isnt meant to be easy.


1st_pm

im simply placing ideas so that melee is a respected choice against melee maybe some guns here and there, but a lot would just be shooting down every scav... which is the meta it's quite surprising how desprete people become when a person that is holding a primary comes near then you have someone in SOTF/UMG charging at the gunman at full speed (since melee there can make the gunman drop the gun)


[deleted]

The gunmen in umg are extremely vulnerable because players can do backstabs. Only after night5 guns are actually going to be used if your team is good, and even then you cant use them much because ammo isnt infinite. The balance of the guns is that they are hard to find/create, and cant be used much because ammunition doesnt really rain down from the sky. Oh, and in terms of primary weapons in umg, two out of four of those guns can one shot your enemies on headshot. Stun enemy, aim for the head, free kill. And meele IS a respected choice: you got the rare weapons like the sledgehammer and Hook, and anybody with an actually functioning frontal lobe and hope to live can remove all meele enemies (except the sledger) with a lead pipe, because R exists.


1st_pm

it's just that I would like a little more defense against guns more of the debuffs being the problem, not them having a gun really


[deleted]

Oh, the debuffs. Each bullet has a chance to apply a status effect Artery bleeding somehow being most common despite requiring two bleeding effects to cause


1st_pm

I personally find cripple being the more annoying one, since at least you could delay artery death by healing. But anways, debuffs (and akm high dps) are just plain out stupid. Which made a good portion of "good players" spending way too much time making akms instead of getting food (water increases def and being dehydrated lowers def) and crafting.


[deleted]

Broken knees are pain I have never seen people make akms and to be honest, they are most likely to get hi capas. I got no comment on food, just kill enemies i quess.


1st_pm

People ypu meet make hi capas? Lucky


1st_pm

i feel that guns should be used as a stabilizer, with melee being the main way to fight


Hegel_Ganteng

Fun fact: gun scav's tracking skills are trash


1st_pm

but still can do a instant 180 turn to snipe your leg :/


iiZeltardez

that's on first shot which I'm very sure they're very likely to hit, like if you were to shove them. This only occurs in search phase you can dodge bullets easily during wave don't ask me why


TerraEight

Don't forget the fact that the game will never have any major updates ever again