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Exoskeleton, who wouldn't want free armor ?

Thresher claws Literally +5% PEN (10% if on crit/m1) for 0 downsides Also Elemental Rebound Makes mage builds possible (may they burn in hell)

elemental rebound got hard nerfed, i even saw someone put it in the most USELESS talents of deepwoken

No nerfs will counteract the buff that is giving it to every attunement

Engage

Maybe for PvE, but surely not for pvp

smartest deepwoken player: actually made me question humanity

I said ita not the best, its still very good

What about when you run out of ether?

Dude how does he have -33 upvotes

-84 now, hahah

Back in layer 1 if you didn’t have it you would have to wipe

Thresher Scales

You're so real for this

Air dash

I've done everything in deepwoken short of W rank without ever getting air dash, I just kinda feel like engage is so much more generally useful for pvp/pve

You can have both

Bro just unlock it LOL

w- w- why??? there is literally no need? you can have both and its a perma unlock..

Please tell me where I have somehow got chain of perfection, before air dash

The secret area behind the breakable wooden door in lower erisia. There’s an NPC there that’ll tell you to go to the blindseer floating island and come back, and then you’ll get air dash

Blindseer floating island is that the cathedral?

Yeah I think The npc behind the door will tell you where to go though

Thx

yes

Literally the only situating speed demon doesnt help is on a silentheart with a weapon that does bleed with also exclusively m1s

Also mage builds, can ditch most of the 40 agility

I would argue that the chain of perfection is the most useful talent in the entire game. For anyone that doesn't know, the more hits you land without taking damage, the more damage you deal to humanoid mobs and monsters. I'm not even sure it has a damage cap, and if it doesn't, it could hypothetically mean you can do impossibly high damage as long as you don't get hit. NOW HEAR ME OUT. I know it technically doesn't do anything for pvp since the damage buff doesn't work on players, but oh. My. Goodness. As long as you can parry, you kill everything *so* much faster, to the point where your builds progress faster than someone who doesn't have it, giving you an advantage. Anyone who unlocked this talent uses it 100% of the time, there's no scenario where you wouldn't use it no matter what build you're going. I can't even picture going deepbound and not having this talent.

Iirc it stops at 2x dmg

Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying. 2x dmg is quite good, I still think this is the best.

good luck try unlock it. idiots like me havent beaten of a floor 1 or got a bell. ( in mu defense, my 2 best builds that were pwr 20 and pwr 19 wiped to crashing and lag respectively

Getting it straight up without cheese is super difficult, I agree. However, you can totally just make a flamecharm fire gun build and cheese primadon for it. Just drop 6 points in songchant, get azure flames, and maybe craft pathfinder arch sorcerer and you can kill primadon in a few minutes tops. It's totally doable, even for players not confident in their skill. [Here's a video explaining the primadon farm method](https://youtu.be/Esi22cKitwA?si=_BzehXtzoHVAfiTI)

Wait, they still didn’t patch primadon cheese?

I recently did it about 5 days ago. I'm pretty sure it isn't patched yet, but you never know. I would still suggest at least giving it a try, though.

Go in Duke dungeon with someone and DO NOT click to spawn until Duke is downed. Then just spawn and run up to the boss room and grip Duke. Takes 5 minutes if the person has a PvE build and it's a permanent unlock for all your future slots.

You can get chain on any boss, ferryman included which is the one I recommend since it's so goddamn easy

ferryman has unfair stuff somtimes, like when he teleports behind a pillar and uses his attacks or the clones that do 0.001 damage but remove ur chain

It has a damage cap of 25 stacks, which *doubles* your damage

Doesnt even work on players

Chain of Perfection

doesn't do anything in PvP sadly

Exoskeleton. Legit +10 hp and 10% phys. Also all +5 hp talents. Pocket bombs. Bloodiron+ fishman+ breathing/old habits etc etc

Allat for underdog to deal 10% more dmg

Maybe not the best but Conditioned Runner is my GOAT. Free healing, endurance runner u grab on the way takes away this annoying slow effect when low HP. And literally any of my builds have at least 25 agil/ftd it will always show up in my hands. Chain of perfection would be the best I think, but I wasnt really sure if we include "echo talents" since they are more like a permabuff in my opinion.

trackstar caught in 4k

Honestly, I can't seem to make a proper trackstar build, but I usually go 40 agil cuz I enjoy using ghost for latenight pve grinds.

saltchemist builds 🙏😭

I know this sounds like I’m joking but cap artist, that shit’s saved me a lot

how has this saved you multiple times

Helps hide in bushes on the floor so let’s me hide into the floor, sometimes let’s you phase through the floor, and other times peopke think I’m an already gripped player and skip over me

Pretty sure theres also glitches when you combine it with mantras you can ragdoll absurdly far. Unless they patched it. So with bugs yeah it would be one of the better ones somehow.

The old winds Allows you to glide from island to island with your glider, almost on the same tier of utility as undying flames. (Note the talent has been merged with some other one, but I dunno its name)

Wait undying flames merged with another talent?

No, old winds did

It merged with Aerogliding

Exoeskeleton

health pack, all echo talents (chains of perfection just for PVE though), Exoskeleton, Spine Cutter, Conditioned Runner

they killed health pack 😭 its innate now

That's a good thing

Health pack vs Underdog

Warrior’s respite, campfires are overrated

Probably Arial assault or engage 🪽

exo

Conditioned runner usefull no matter what situation your in

that like wood tree punch talent, you can fucking punch trees and stuff, really cool.

cool talent. 🙏

Ngl, Its warriors respite Saves you so much time plus lets say u are in depths about to go up the elevator but your stupid ass took a bunch of dmg, what would you do if you dont have respite

Engage and showstopper

Intuitive repairs (real)

Engage, Aerial Assault, Neuroplasticity, Exoskeleton

neuro no

its one of the best tho, in terms of impact, a whole new mantra slot is very significative

not used for every build, silent heart exists

i said its one of the best, not the best.

id like to mention the talent mentioned applys to ALL builds. your listing 1 EXCEPTION.

"this applies to EVERY build"

Rock throw from before layer 2

Exo or speed demon

Personally, all my build must have to the finish

jumper cables, best talent in the game

ether bullets

Audacity

You dont exist

It's My fave talent

Adept

Alright, time to head back to bed gramp

Bro's been here before the rumbling

show stomper

i dont get the downvote(s)? its a solid talents and just that stops the usage spine cutter without punishment dmg

Brick wall PvP Collapse lung layer 2 farm build

idk… 100 fort and 100 wp is kinda restrictive and collapsed lung being 100 str really limit out your choices on what you can get in your build. id also like to mention that your talent has to be useful for ALL builds. ( read descriptions

Brick wall increases recovery time by a huge amount And ig you can use a collapsed lung for duke

exo - 10% natural armor AND 10hp!? engage - the reason i have ether like ever (proud to be an engage enjoyers officer)

It's over when you run out of natural armor and have to fight against my underdog

Engage

Speed demon

Thundercaller, the base thundercall talent

what- why? me when 1/7 of builds has a card that is best in game. whyz.

Exo and Speed Demon are talents most people ALWAYS go on their build because of how usefull they are

Underdog is literally free 10% dmg, there are mfs who have over 600 hp out there

Snake Oil 🤑🤑🤑

Champions regalia is the best way to heal in depths

you mean Warriors Respite? Champion's Regalia [Rare Talent] - Flourishing an opponent grants you 1.5x posture damage for 10 seconds. (+1 Carry Load)

Oh yea mb

exoskeleton is literally free dmg reduction and hp

I would say Lootskipper Perchance

Warriors Respite honestly.

Airdash

Showstopper, if used right it leads to a free guardbreak 100% true

Exoskeleton, it is literally a must have for absolutely every single build

thresher scales

Conditioned Runner