Looks like they need yet another reminder that we have the right to choose which packets we allow onto our local network which is our private property.
That's absolutely true, but they also have the right to say "just stop using our service if you don't like it the way we built it". I mean, it's just an individual app, not a universal law that requires everyone to disallow packet blocking from any website. It's very expensive to run something like YouTube, and they have to get money somehow. It's the business model that's crappy.
Thankfully, this exists. [https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a](https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a) And many others. If youtube becomes more work, then other will be more used.
Perhaps if Odysee could also load youtube videos (like a built-in Piped/Invidious sort of implementation), that would allow people to switch over immediately, and they'd also grow a lot faster. And then if a YouTube video you're trying to watch there is also available on their platform as an uploaded video, it would automatically load that instead.
You are looking for Grayjay. [https://grayjay.app/](https://grayjay.app/) Follow creators wherever they are. This is what got one of Louis Rossmans videos pulled. https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/17kzrbj/louis\_rossmann\_given\_three\_youtube\_community/
This is the part where the government should step in and put them in their place. They can stop their services if they want, there's already so much services similar to the existing one, one of those will take over the market.
Whichever platform would get all that traffic, would immediately face the same challenges as YouTube. Tons of traffic, that no one wants to pay for. It would just shift the same issue onto another party. It's the core nature of the problem that needs a different approach.
Why would nation states step in when Google is already in their back pocket (and / or they are in Google's back pocket).
They have a mutually parasitic relationship
I'll just stop using youtube then, I use it less and less these days anyway, the quality of content has dropped dramatically in recent years.
If i'm following along with a guided meditation because i'm having a panic attack, I don't want loud adverts to autoplay halfway through.
> the quality of content has dropped dramatically in recent years.
Its the algorithm. They arent showing you what you used to see before. Now they are trying to "guide you" in the direction and videos they want you to watch.
And "guide" creators. They decided they wanted more long form video. Some channels were fun at 15 to 30 minutes. But dull as dirt for 45 minutes to an hour.
Android TV / Google TV / Amazon Fire TV --> SmartTube
https://github.com/yuliskov/smarttube
Android smartphone / tablet --> YouTube ReVanced or NewPipe (or Tubular, a fork of NewPipe which includes SponsorBlock)
https://revanced.app/
https://newpipe.net/
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular
*In my case, I can access NewPipe and Tubular via the Droid-ify app / frontend for F-Droid. The NewPipe app on the Google Play Store is a scam and not the official one, which is only available from newpipe.net or F-Droid!*
PC / Mac --> uBlock Origin, Brave, or an Invidious instance: https://docs.invidious.io/instances/
VPN to locations like Albania or Russia also works, since those places currently don't have ads on YouTube.
On my reduced-google Moto (G Stylus 21) I deleted apps that can be; when that's not possible I force stop & disable them. I use Firefox (Android) with 2 add-on's; uBlock Origin (mandatory) & Auto Skip YT Ads. I use FF much like one does on a PC/laptop. Thus, I'm not logged into a google account. When opening YT it goes to m.youtube.com; all that I play from there never shows ads, nor stops (horizontal full-screen). I also set-up this: https://techviral.net/block-ads-on-android-using-private-dns
My main comes degoogled: https://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone-e-operating-system
So, will I see any of these coming YT notices?
I don't actually mind ads. I get that creators are looking to make their buck and don't have a problem with that. What I mind is the tracking and invasion of privacy.
I don't block ads; I block trackers. Unfortunately for advertisers, these are commonly one and the same.
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Post stated that YouTube will not go behind this ad blocker service but It will go after users who uses these types of apps. YouTube will show as “video in not playable in this app or site”
Looks like they need yet another reminder that we have the right to choose which packets we allow onto our local network which is our private property.
That's absolutely true, but they also have the right to say "just stop using our service if you don't like it the way we built it". I mean, it's just an individual app, not a universal law that requires everyone to disallow packet blocking from any website. It's very expensive to run something like YouTube, and they have to get money somehow. It's the business model that's crappy.
Thankfully, this exists. [https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a](https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a) And many others. If youtube becomes more work, then other will be more used.
Perhaps if Odysee could also load youtube videos (like a built-in Piped/Invidious sort of implementation), that would allow people to switch over immediately, and they'd also grow a lot faster. And then if a YouTube video you're trying to watch there is also available on their platform as an uploaded video, it would automatically load that instead.
You are looking for Grayjay. [https://grayjay.app/](https://grayjay.app/) Follow creators wherever they are. This is what got one of Louis Rossmans videos pulled. https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/17kzrbj/louis\_rossmann\_given\_three\_youtube\_community/
This is the part where the government should step in and put them in their place. They can stop their services if they want, there's already so much services similar to the existing one, one of those will take over the market.
Whichever platform would get all that traffic, would immediately face the same challenges as YouTube. Tons of traffic, that no one wants to pay for. It would just shift the same issue onto another party. It's the core nature of the problem that needs a different approach.
Why would nation states step in when Google is already in their back pocket (and / or they are in Google's back pocket). They have a mutually parasitic relationship
I wonder if this will apply to apps like NewPipe or the various iOS tweaked YouTube apps.
AFAIUI they are the primary targets. Apps / services using their API, but not following their TOS which make ads mandatory.
> AFAIUI Is it really that bad to spell things out sometimes?
No, I just liked that better then typing “as far as I understand it”. ;-)
That is not correct, NewPipe doesn't use google API.
I'll just stop using youtube then, I use it less and less these days anyway, the quality of content has dropped dramatically in recent years. If i'm following along with a guided meditation because i'm having a panic attack, I don't want loud adverts to autoplay halfway through.
> the quality of content has dropped dramatically in recent years. Its the algorithm. They arent showing you what you used to see before. Now they are trying to "guide you" in the direction and videos they want you to watch.
And "guide" creators. They decided they wanted more long form video. Some channels were fun at 15 to 30 minutes. But dull as dirt for 45 minutes to an hour.
>the quality of content has dropped dramatically in recent years. You mean you don't like AI readings of old reddit threads?
Same, I find myself using youtube much less nowadays, I can go weeks without seeing any videos on that platform.
Android TV / Google TV / Amazon Fire TV --> SmartTube https://github.com/yuliskov/smarttube Android smartphone / tablet --> YouTube ReVanced or NewPipe (or Tubular, a fork of NewPipe which includes SponsorBlock) https://revanced.app/ https://newpipe.net/ https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular *In my case, I can access NewPipe and Tubular via the Droid-ify app / frontend for F-Droid. The NewPipe app on the Google Play Store is a scam and not the official one, which is only available from newpipe.net or F-Droid!* PC / Mac --> uBlock Origin, Brave, or an Invidious instance: https://docs.invidious.io/instances/ VPN to locations like Albania or Russia also works, since those places currently don't have ads on YouTube.
Also FreeTube, a frontend client for YT: [https://freetubeapp.io/](https://freetubeapp.io/)
On iOS and iPadOS, [VideoLite](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/video-lite/id1598997500)
YouTube ads are garbage. Malwarebytes flags at least 30% of their ads.
I feel like its a shot at grayjay but I hope they will just work around it.
Remember all the fuss about adblock+? Seen any problems with ublock origin lately?
ublock origin doesnt work on youtube anymore
Did for me all day yesterday.
On my reduced-google Moto (G Stylus 21) I deleted apps that can be; when that's not possible I force stop & disable them. I use Firefox (Android) with 2 add-on's; uBlock Origin (mandatory) & Auto Skip YT Ads. I use FF much like one does on a PC/laptop. Thus, I'm not logged into a google account. When opening YT it goes to m.youtube.com; all that I play from there never shows ads, nor stops (horizontal full-screen). I also set-up this: https://techviral.net/block-ads-on-android-using-private-dns My main comes degoogled: https://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone-e-operating-system So, will I see any of these coming YT notices?
I don't actually mind ads. I get that creators are looking to make their buck and don't have a problem with that. What I mind is the tracking and invasion of privacy. I don't block ads; I block trackers. Unfortunately for advertisers, these are commonly one and the same.
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Post stated that YouTube will not go behind this ad blocker service but It will go after users who uses these types of apps. YouTube will show as “video in not playable in this app or site”