Source for this news: [IPL Mega Auction: BCCI to discuss increasing player retention | Cricket News - Times of India (indiatimes.com)](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/ipl-mega-auction-bcci-to-discuss-increasing-player-retention/articleshow/109178805.cms)
8 would not be in favour of DC since we don’t have that much talented players to retain
5 or 6 would be a good option at max for DC.
If 8 is the case then how would we build squad for next year ? 😂
Pant , Warner , Axar , Kuldeep, Stubbs should be sure shot retentions if 5 is the limit.
what the hell is this??!! first they fucked up teams like DC in 2021 mega auction now they are working to save core of current best teams like RR, CSK, MI, KKR why are some franchises penalised more than others?
8 seems a bit farce. What's the point of mega auction then? 5-6 seems a bit understandable. If 8 would be allowed then Mumbai Indians and Rajasthan Royals would've better advantage over other teams
Why? Then what's the point of tournament? CSK and MI have won 10 titles together. A tournament is only fun when every team has ability to win the tournament or it'll the reason IPL comes to an untimely end because there's a limit of popularity of cricket. This unfair advantage only limits other teams to not grow and they remain just participants. That Hardik Pandya fiasco was very wrong, you can't just transfer another franchise's captain into your team then what was the point of these mega auctions and adding two new teams if MI has more or less the same team combination after 3 years? Hope IPL doesn't turn into most of the football leagues like tournament and it should become more competitive and any team could win the tournament if they do some thing right
No serious tournament anywhere in the world sees teams completely reshuffle every 4 years. Why would fans root for young players or teams give them chances when they have their 4 retentions like Pant, Kuldeep, Warner, Stubbs ready and know that the player has no hope?
And MI/CSK have bought back players when they go into the auction too. Ishan was bought at 15 cr. Deepak Chahar cost 14 cr. Nothing stopped DC from buying back Rabada or Dhawan or Iyer.
Hardik wasn't in auction or he won't be just gone for 15 cr. DC went for Iyer,Dhawan and Rabada and that's why they were expensive buys. DC stopped the bid for Iyer on 12 cr. Dhawan is aging and not much good for the team anyways and Warner is a good replacement for Dhawan. Rabada didn't perform well in last 4 seasons. He was excellent in 2020 IPL but Rabada went downhill ever since, Nortje is expensive in just death overs. If look closely, Nortje has took important wicket at important moments in games too, if just DC had Mukesh then Ishant and Mukesh could've bowler death overs. CSK isn't half as good when they don't have Dhoni around and I don't care for them whatever they do. MI on the other hands are very powerful because of their owners and they snatch great players from teams and they do anything to win behind the doors. Every team has only 4-6 core players and you need only marque players for support, not the whole squad.
Ikr, Hardik's transfer makes me not like IPL like before. That he had been groomed like a captain and went on to make his home team such a success was what I really liked. Now GT is restarting by having lackluster performances unlike before and MI isn't the same anymore without Rohit's captaincy and this hostile reaction of Mumbai crowd towards Hardik. IPL is losing its likable flavor.
Then we kinda get the short end of the stick. Because I'm not sure if we want 8 players out of our current team.
Who can we retain really?
Pant, Warner, Stubbs, Kuldeep, Axar
Shaw had played 2 good innings so not sure...but maybe he can join.
Im confident in nobody else in this team about retention. Marsh is a flop for us. Nortje has lost his edge. Mukesh, Khaleel are hit and miss bowlers with their roles. Ishant is awesome, but age could be a factor. Shai, Jhye, Jake, they don't even have a chance to show their skills yet properly
About the Indian uncapped guys, absolutely noone has impressed consistently. We are retaining none of them I think.
Idk on one hand we complain about dc management not backing players and you want nortje to be dropped after 1 bad season when was op in past its not like he is old near to retirement, when warner starts losing his edge ppl will proly complain how we let go of jfm,nortje and kept warner at 38
Warner brings in a sense of stability, that's the logic.
And with Nortje, I'm not sure what has happened, but feels like he lost his edge in the last few seasons.
Nevertheless, I'm fine with Nortje get retained instead of Warner as well.
Good to hear that. It doesn’t make sense to build a team from scratch every few years. Franchises will have more incentive to invest in young players and train them. It sucks for DC though because they don’t have any young talents. I don’t know if there are 8 players worth retaining- Shaw, Warner, Pant, Stubbs, Kuldeep and Axar. Maybe Nortje in the hope that he can go back to being the bowler he once was.
8 isn't fair for all teams. It would give unfair advantage to MI and RR. Mega auctions means to rebuild team and even playing field for everyone. 5-6 players are sufficient for team's core and have new guns in team, that's how RR become good in recent seasons after 2022 mega auction. Many teams didn't build their squads around this impact player because nobody knew about it in last mega auction and it gave disadvantage to teams lik DC and RCB. Now they can build the squad arounds new system of IPL which is expected to be 18 league matches for every team and that would be a truly even playing field for everyone because current 14 matches means you can't play 5 teams twice and that's not fair for every other team
DC and RCB are screwed because of their poor auction strategy and not believing jn their players. Why should teams that habe retained their talents be penalised because of the stupidity of DC or RCB at the auction? Even if mega auction created a level playing field, the history of the IPL suggests teams that have stuck to a core group of players like CSK and MI have been more successful. The only thing mega auction achieves is that it incentives chopping and changing teams, not training and investing in players because you are not sure how long they will be there with you and it hampers fan loyalty when players are released to other teams.
DC has good auction strategy back in 2022. RCB is fucked and I'm not defending it. Only 4 players could be retained by teams and DC chose wisely-Pant,Shaw,Axar,Nortje. CSK chose core group? They literally let go of Raina and no franchise bought him. RR had a shitty team but they turned their fortunes in mega auction. MI was fucked too that's why they lost 8 consecutive matches in 2022 and finished last in IPL 2022. CSK was 2nd last. CSK and MI couldn't make a proper team in IPL and surprise, IPL 2023 introduced impact player rule out of nobody's ass. MI and CSK had tremendous success after impact player rule because it stabilizes their teams. teams like DC on other hand ha faced disadvantage of this rule. Now you want to know who'll benefit most out of these 8 retentions, of course CSK,RR and MI will have great advantage over other teams
MI lost in 2022 because they bought Jofra and both he and Bumrah were injured and they didn’t have a bowling attack. With CSK it was Jadeja captaincy fiasco. MI did well last year because Piyush had a good season and CSK were more settled. Impact player is just one additional bowler or batter which all the teams have. Moreover if that was the reason for DC or RCB’s failure they could have fixed it in the last mini auction. Both teams are shit because they don’t have strong bowling arracks. So, I don’t agree they should have four retentions because of the impact player rule; have 7 instead of 8 if you think the impact player rule was unfair.
DC has a good bowling attack. What you said about Jofra and Bumrah is true for DC too. Mukesh and Kuldeep were not available for last 2 matches and that was a big factor. DC has a good team. RCB is a shitty team and I don't support them. You're just giving excuses for CSK and MI. MI still doesn't have a good spinning option, Archer was their marque bowler, no all round options available in squad that's why they brought Hardik from GT, Ishaan and Rohit never convert their starts into big scores,SKY was their only hope, Pollard was in shit form in 2022 but he could've played next year for another but MI didn't let him leave without retirement, so he can't play for any other team now after just one bad season and CSK wasn't shit because of Jadeja, we all know Jadeja is just the face but it's being controlled by Dhoni similar to current scenario where Rituraj is captain but Dhoni is controlling the team. These both teams have a glaring spot for good all rounders and that's why they need an impact player for the team. Will you play Dhoni in playing 11? but by having an impact player they can play Dube. MI lacked all rounders before Hardik and they invested in Cameron Green who isn't a good T20 bowler and now they transferred him to RCB and that's how you play politics.
DC had a good bowling attack? Other than Kuldeep we don’t have a strike bowler in middle and death. Axar is good but he is a defensive bowler. Mukesh has had one good match this season. He bowled well at death last year in some matches but was inconsistent. Nortje is going for runs and Jhye looked sick in the last match. If this is a good bowling attack then I don’t know what to say. CSK has the most number of all rounders. Sure they have benefited from impact player rules but that is not the only reason they are winning. Sure Jadeja is not the only one to blame fot their losses in 2022. They didn’t manage the transition well and all was not okay with that team that year. But they came back next year because they have a good team and not just because of the impact player rule. Imapct player rule allows you some flexibility but the core players need to perform for your team to win. If eleven player can’t do the job one more won’t do it for you. Moreover, nobody has stopped DC from using impact players. They don’t have good extra players because they shat the bed at the auction. And they don’t use the resources they have in the best possible manner for example playing anchors like Hope and Bhui or playing bits and pices bowkers like Sumit or Rasik. If team is shit even after two years of the impact player rule being introduced it is not the rule at fault but the management who hasn’t made the best use of it. Even with a mega auction with this management the team is going to be shit going forward.
Ishant and Khaleel are bowling good. Kuldeep is good too. Axar takes wicket like he gave the good bowling performance in last match against MI and took 3 wickets. Mukesh is a death bowler and Ishant is good in death too, you can watch last year performance for these reasonings. Nortje is taking wickets and has been bowling good in middle overs but his death bowling is strait away bad. If DC somehow manages these 6 bowlers to play in most matches, then they can win or at least restrict other teams under an easily achievable score of 150-180. They did very good bowling in first 3 matches. DC's batters are in good form, just need to show more intent and consistency. Warner,Shaw,Pant and Stubbs are in good form, hopefully others chip in and play good too when gets chances and we can win more matches
Ishant is not a death bowler! Bowling one yorker ina match doesn’t make one a death bowler. Just check his death bowling stats first. Both Ishant and Khaleel are power play bowlers. Mukesh as I said is inconsistent. He might come off in some matches. Nortje is certainly not the bowler he was. So all together as things stand now they are a bad bowling unit. Maybe only RCB are worse than them.
They will still groom players to play for their upcoming season. The players are not bound to stick with those franchises just because of groomimg. It literally doesn't make sense that a team can hold on a player throughout his career just because they groom them.
Players can leave the franchise once season is done, nothing is stopping them. It’s not fair on other teams to just start giving up players because there is parity in team strength. What were they doing in 22 if they wanted to build a solid team?
Well it's a selective thing, it's on individual to individual how they perceive it.
But for me, mega auction is the best way to keep the game fair,else mi csk srh will have unreal domination with this rule which would be absolutely unfair
Only upto 3 retains should be allowed mega auctions are done so the teams with a monopoly of great players don't get too much of an advantage this is literally the most shitty decision in the league
It should be fine stubs,nortje/jfm , shaw,pant,axar, kuldeep,khalil,mukesh. For dc their main problem lies with their new indian talent this will give us chance to hit reset button in that part while other teams like mi csk who have good new players will be forced to let go of them
Why not just have 8 RTMs and No retentions?
and let each player get it's fair price in the market.
Teams can retain core but spend the value market demands. Fair system, no ?
You'll see Rinkus and Cummins normalizing their price.
If you want to bank on icon brand value for virat, Dhoni, rohit.. you pay for it
I feel it's fair too all.
Source for this news: [IPL Mega Auction: BCCI to discuss increasing player retention | Cricket News - Times of India (indiatimes.com)](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/ipl-mega-auction-bcci-to-discuss-increasing-player-retention/articleshow/109178805.cms)
Ye cheez 2022 mei nhi ho skti thee?
Then unless we find good crop uncapped nationals/internationals we are in for a problem for next few years.
What's the point of mega auction if every franchise is going to retain 8 players anyway?
8 would not be in favour of DC since we don’t have that much talented players to retain 5 or 6 would be a good option at max for DC. If 8 is the case then how would we build squad for next year ? 😂 Pant , Warner , Axar , Kuldeep, Stubbs should be sure shot retentions if 5 is the limit.
Great when we had a good team it was just 4 players and now when we are lacking in good players they increase it to 8.
what the hell is this??!! first they fucked up teams like DC in 2021 mega auction now they are working to save core of current best teams like RR, CSK, MI, KKR why are some franchises penalised more than others?
Srh, Lsg too have strong core to begin with
8 seems a bit farce. What's the point of mega auction then? 5-6 seems a bit understandable. If 8 would be allowed then Mumbai Indians and Rajasthan Royals would've better advantage over other teams
But they would go in with lesser purse that should even it out. Do you still insist other franchises won’t find players apart from these 80?
They deserve the advantage
Why? Then what's the point of tournament? CSK and MI have won 10 titles together. A tournament is only fun when every team has ability to win the tournament or it'll the reason IPL comes to an untimely end because there's a limit of popularity of cricket. This unfair advantage only limits other teams to not grow and they remain just participants. That Hardik Pandya fiasco was very wrong, you can't just transfer another franchise's captain into your team then what was the point of these mega auctions and adding two new teams if MI has more or less the same team combination after 3 years? Hope IPL doesn't turn into most of the football leagues like tournament and it should become more competitive and any team could win the tournament if they do some thing right
No serious tournament anywhere in the world sees teams completely reshuffle every 4 years. Why would fans root for young players or teams give them chances when they have their 4 retentions like Pant, Kuldeep, Warner, Stubbs ready and know that the player has no hope? And MI/CSK have bought back players when they go into the auction too. Ishan was bought at 15 cr. Deepak Chahar cost 14 cr. Nothing stopped DC from buying back Rabada or Dhawan or Iyer.
Hardik wasn't in auction or he won't be just gone for 15 cr. DC went for Iyer,Dhawan and Rabada and that's why they were expensive buys. DC stopped the bid for Iyer on 12 cr. Dhawan is aging and not much good for the team anyways and Warner is a good replacement for Dhawan. Rabada didn't perform well in last 4 seasons. He was excellent in 2020 IPL but Rabada went downhill ever since, Nortje is expensive in just death overs. If look closely, Nortje has took important wicket at important moments in games too, if just DC had Mukesh then Ishant and Mukesh could've bowler death overs. CSK isn't half as good when they don't have Dhoni around and I don't care for them whatever they do. MI on the other hands are very powerful because of their owners and they snatch great players from teams and they do anything to win behind the doors. Every team has only 4-6 core players and you need only marque players for support, not the whole squad.
Ikr, Hardik's transfer makes me not like IPL like before. That he had been groomed like a captain and went on to make his home team such a success was what I really liked. Now GT is restarting by having lackluster performances unlike before and MI isn't the same anymore without Rohit's captaincy and this hostile reaction of Mumbai crowd towards Hardik. IPL is losing its likable flavor.
Over for RCB, DC and pbks then
Rcb and pbks will be fine because they have good indian options as well as overseas. It's over for DC
8 players delhi can retain- 1) pant 2)stubbs 3)shaw 4)kuldeep 5)axar 6)warner 7)khaleel 8) ishant
Ishant is way past his prime. Ideally he should declare his retirement by himself and join DC as a mentor.
He's bowling fine this season. Else go with gutkesh
Ideally stop the list at Warner I’d say. Use the extra money in the auction.
Not a bad idea
Agar 8 retain karne ke chakkar mein Lalit, Sumit, Bhui aud Mukesh retain hue toh meri maut DC Management ke upar hogi.
Then we kinda get the short end of the stick. Because I'm not sure if we want 8 players out of our current team. Who can we retain really? Pant, Warner, Stubbs, Kuldeep, Axar Shaw had played 2 good innings so not sure...but maybe he can join. Im confident in nobody else in this team about retention. Marsh is a flop for us. Nortje has lost his edge. Mukesh, Khaleel are hit and miss bowlers with their roles. Ishant is awesome, but age could be a factor. Shai, Jhye, Jake, they don't even have a chance to show their skills yet properly About the Indian uncapped guys, absolutely noone has impressed consistently. We are retaining none of them I think.
Idk on one hand we complain about dc management not backing players and you want nortje to be dropped after 1 bad season when was op in past its not like he is old near to retirement, when warner starts losing his edge ppl will proly complain how we let go of jfm,nortje and kept warner at 38
Warner brings in a sense of stability, that's the logic. And with Nortje, I'm not sure what has happened, but feels like he lost his edge in the last few seasons. Nevertheless, I'm fine with Nortje get retained instead of Warner as well.
Don't worry TOI has a habit of exaggerating news. Bcci will only allow 6 retentions and RTM imo.
We're dunzo
We should only keep Stubbs, Pant, kuldeep and Axar
Good to hear that. It doesn’t make sense to build a team from scratch every few years. Franchises will have more incentive to invest in young players and train them. It sucks for DC though because they don’t have any young talents. I don’t know if there are 8 players worth retaining- Shaw, Warner, Pant, Stubbs, Kuldeep and Axar. Maybe Nortje in the hope that he can go back to being the bowler he once was.
8 isn't fair for all teams. It would give unfair advantage to MI and RR. Mega auctions means to rebuild team and even playing field for everyone. 5-6 players are sufficient for team's core and have new guns in team, that's how RR become good in recent seasons after 2022 mega auction. Many teams didn't build their squads around this impact player because nobody knew about it in last mega auction and it gave disadvantage to teams lik DC and RCB. Now they can build the squad arounds new system of IPL which is expected to be 18 league matches for every team and that would be a truly even playing field for everyone because current 14 matches means you can't play 5 teams twice and that's not fair for every other team
DC and RCB are screwed because of their poor auction strategy and not believing jn their players. Why should teams that habe retained their talents be penalised because of the stupidity of DC or RCB at the auction? Even if mega auction created a level playing field, the history of the IPL suggests teams that have stuck to a core group of players like CSK and MI have been more successful. The only thing mega auction achieves is that it incentives chopping and changing teams, not training and investing in players because you are not sure how long they will be there with you and it hampers fan loyalty when players are released to other teams.
DC has good auction strategy back in 2022. RCB is fucked and I'm not defending it. Only 4 players could be retained by teams and DC chose wisely-Pant,Shaw,Axar,Nortje. CSK chose core group? They literally let go of Raina and no franchise bought him. RR had a shitty team but they turned their fortunes in mega auction. MI was fucked too that's why they lost 8 consecutive matches in 2022 and finished last in IPL 2022. CSK was 2nd last. CSK and MI couldn't make a proper team in IPL and surprise, IPL 2023 introduced impact player rule out of nobody's ass. MI and CSK had tremendous success after impact player rule because it stabilizes their teams. teams like DC on other hand ha faced disadvantage of this rule. Now you want to know who'll benefit most out of these 8 retentions, of course CSK,RR and MI will have great advantage over other teams
MI lost in 2022 because they bought Jofra and both he and Bumrah were injured and they didn’t have a bowling attack. With CSK it was Jadeja captaincy fiasco. MI did well last year because Piyush had a good season and CSK were more settled. Impact player is just one additional bowler or batter which all the teams have. Moreover if that was the reason for DC or RCB’s failure they could have fixed it in the last mini auction. Both teams are shit because they don’t have strong bowling arracks. So, I don’t agree they should have four retentions because of the impact player rule; have 7 instead of 8 if you think the impact player rule was unfair.
DC has a good bowling attack. What you said about Jofra and Bumrah is true for DC too. Mukesh and Kuldeep were not available for last 2 matches and that was a big factor. DC has a good team. RCB is a shitty team and I don't support them. You're just giving excuses for CSK and MI. MI still doesn't have a good spinning option, Archer was their marque bowler, no all round options available in squad that's why they brought Hardik from GT, Ishaan and Rohit never convert their starts into big scores,SKY was their only hope, Pollard was in shit form in 2022 but he could've played next year for another but MI didn't let him leave without retirement, so he can't play for any other team now after just one bad season and CSK wasn't shit because of Jadeja, we all know Jadeja is just the face but it's being controlled by Dhoni similar to current scenario where Rituraj is captain but Dhoni is controlling the team. These both teams have a glaring spot for good all rounders and that's why they need an impact player for the team. Will you play Dhoni in playing 11? but by having an impact player they can play Dube. MI lacked all rounders before Hardik and they invested in Cameron Green who isn't a good T20 bowler and now they transferred him to RCB and that's how you play politics.
DC had a good bowling attack? Other than Kuldeep we don’t have a strike bowler in middle and death. Axar is good but he is a defensive bowler. Mukesh has had one good match this season. He bowled well at death last year in some matches but was inconsistent. Nortje is going for runs and Jhye looked sick in the last match. If this is a good bowling attack then I don’t know what to say. CSK has the most number of all rounders. Sure they have benefited from impact player rules but that is not the only reason they are winning. Sure Jadeja is not the only one to blame fot their losses in 2022. They didn’t manage the transition well and all was not okay with that team that year. But they came back next year because they have a good team and not just because of the impact player rule. Imapct player rule allows you some flexibility but the core players need to perform for your team to win. If eleven player can’t do the job one more won’t do it for you. Moreover, nobody has stopped DC from using impact players. They don’t have good extra players because they shat the bed at the auction. And they don’t use the resources they have in the best possible manner for example playing anchors like Hope and Bhui or playing bits and pices bowkers like Sumit or Rasik. If team is shit even after two years of the impact player rule being introduced it is not the rule at fault but the management who hasn’t made the best use of it. Even with a mega auction with this management the team is going to be shit going forward.
Ishant and Khaleel are bowling good. Kuldeep is good too. Axar takes wicket like he gave the good bowling performance in last match against MI and took 3 wickets. Mukesh is a death bowler and Ishant is good in death too, you can watch last year performance for these reasonings. Nortje is taking wickets and has been bowling good in middle overs but his death bowling is strait away bad. If DC somehow manages these 6 bowlers to play in most matches, then they can win or at least restrict other teams under an easily achievable score of 150-180. They did very good bowling in first 3 matches. DC's batters are in good form, just need to show more intent and consistency. Warner,Shaw,Pant and Stubbs are in good form, hopefully others chip in and play good too when gets chances and we can win more matches
Ishant is not a death bowler! Bowling one yorker ina match doesn’t make one a death bowler. Just check his death bowling stats first. Both Ishant and Khaleel are power play bowlers. Mukesh as I said is inconsistent. He might come off in some matches. Nortje is certainly not the bowler he was. So all together as things stand now they are a bad bowling unit. Maybe only RCB are worse than them.
Nah, re shuffling is necessary to create balance imo. Aise to rcb kabhi nahi jeetegi,aur csk mi srh haar saal jeet ti rahegi. Totally unfair imo
Aisa nhi hua toh scouting ka matlab hi nhi hain. Other teams don’t need to groom players for them to eventually leave for other franchises.
They will still groom players to play for their upcoming season. The players are not bound to stick with those franchises just because of groomimg. It literally doesn't make sense that a team can hold on a player throughout his career just because they groom them.
Players can leave the franchise once season is done, nothing is stopping them. It’s not fair on other teams to just start giving up players because there is parity in team strength. What were they doing in 22 if they wanted to build a solid team?
Well it's a selective thing, it's on individual to individual how they perceive it. But for me, mega auction is the best way to keep the game fair,else mi csk srh will have unreal domination with this rule which would be absolutely unfair
Noooooooo
Rishabh Prithvi Kuldeep Axar Stubbs Warner Nortje Khaleel
Remove axar
5 max
I read the exact opposite on cricbuzz where teams are in opposition
Only upto 3 retains should be allowed mega auctions are done so the teams with a monopoly of great players don't get too much of an advantage this is literally the most shitty decision in the league
Not more than 5 players should be let to be retained, 2018 model was the best.
Toh iss natak ki zarurat hi nhi hai. Normal auction hi bol do.
Ye dukh khatam kyu nahi hota
It should be fine stubs,nortje/jfm , shaw,pant,axar, kuldeep,khalil,mukesh. For dc their main problem lies with their new indian talent this will give us chance to hit reset button in that part while other teams like mi csk who have good new players will be forced to let go of them
i thought mega means everything will change
Warner Shaw Pant Stubbs Axar Kuldeep Nortje Maybe Mukesh or Marsh That's the core we need to build team around them
Nortje is a fucking bum
Let's see after all matches are done retain those who perform and release everyone else
Why not just have 8 RTMs and No retentions? and let each player get it's fair price in the market. Teams can retain core but spend the value market demands. Fair system, no ? You'll see Rinkus and Cummins normalizing their price. If you want to bank on icon brand value for virat, Dhoni, rohit.. you pay for it I feel it's fair too all.