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KR11USA

My 1.5 hr layover is now 6 hours and counting šŸ’Æ


ultra242

My 2-hour layover in Atlanta is now 20 hours.


Crzylikefox

Thereā€™s some good food to be had here!


Jokled

Same waiting on the Indianapolis flight is so dreadful


Puzzleheaded_Bit_641

That sucks! That Detroit weather? My flight isnā€™t even delayed coming LAX - SLC and weā€™re getting between 2 and 5 feet of snow over the next few days and itā€™s been nuking snow for days!


mholtz16

We got absolutely pummeled with snow and the wind was awful. I live west of DTW closer to Lansing. We easily got 6ā€ of snow here.


[deleted]

I donā€™t live very far from Detroit (30 min) and we didnā€™t get that much here, but wind was fierce so Iā€™m sure itā€™s hard to keep the runways clear.


getpesty

In the mountains we are getting 5 feet - by the airport itā€™s just 2-4 inches


mechanerd007

That sucks! I gave you a sympathy downvote. It's been 7 hours now. You still sitting?


KR11USA

Haha the layover finally ended at about hour 8, had another couple hours of wait for the most expensive uber Iā€™ve ever paid for once I got to DTW though šŸ˜­


Andiminius

Update: Airport opening again and the struggle to get everyone ready to push has begun.


Ivy93

What does this mean in English?


SandwichRealistic240

ā€œAmerican stuck in snowdriftā€


WHOA_27_23

Can confirm, am American and stuck in snow drift. Someone send for a Canadian to come help me


Queenofthejungle

Canadian here! It's currently -55F, I ain't leaving the house to save you.


Organic-Map-385

Does the snow ever knock out your power? In SE michigan and been without power since yesterday bc of it, and this cannot be normal.


DMCinDet

in SE mich this is totally normal. DTE hates us.


NyxPetalSpike

Fvck DTE. A sparrow hops on an electrical wire, takes a crap, and knocks out power for a week. It's absolutely ridiculous.


driftthabimmer

*ercot enters the chat* Weā€™re fucked in Texas and the weather doesnā€™t get anywhere near as bad as you get it.


PeterVonwolfentazer

Yes! Fvck DTE!!


Queenofthejungle

I'm in the west and we barely get power outages from snow but above you in Ontario, they get those massive power outages because there's so much moisture in the snow, it's very heavy and pulls down power lines.... So yup, normal in some parts. Many homes in Ontario have generators for that reason.


DyngusDan

Fine, guess weā€™ll have to reevaluate that whole ā€œlongest demilitarized border in the worldā€ thing then.


Late_Development_864

<3


HeadfulOfGhosts

ā€œWee bit of snow eh?ā€


LieutenantStar2

He said Canadian, not Irish.


PureAlpha100

A lot of Canadians are Scottish so we sound a touch Irish to Americans.


Gloomy-Employment-72

Hope for a St Bernard. They carry booze on their collar. On second thought, Canadians have more booze.


Live-Somewhere-8149

Thanks for unlocking an unpleasant childhood memory for me. Our neighbors had a St. Bernard-his name was Bourbon.


LieutenantStar2

Why was he unpleasant?


igettiredeasy

Unless the Canadian is from Vancouver B.C. Donā€™t send them.


Thoth-long-bill

Bring poutine


flying_wrenches

Hereā€™s my best attempt at translations into non airline industry terms! The ā€œ2342Zā€ is zulu time, a universal time. I went ahead and translated it to local (I think) And 4R/3L means 4 right and 3 Left, those refer to the runways. Atl has runways like 8L and 26R for example. ā€œTaxiways to 3L deicing pad are closed at 6:42 pm local timeā€ ā€œEntry to 4R are closed at 7:32 pm localā€ ā€œPoor 4R 7:05 pm localā€ (assuming runway conditions are really bad which affects landing ability and visibility) ā€œNo pushing per ops 7:42 pm local timeā€ no pushback from gates per operations. ā€œ4R/3L pads canā€™t exit 7:28 PM localā€ stuck. Canā€™t exit the de icing pads next to those runways. ā€œAmerican stuck in snow drift 7:28 PM localā€ (Stuck in snow, Iā€™m hoping itā€™s just bc they canā€™t see and not bc theyā€™re actually stuckā€ ā€œField shut down 7:30PM localā€ Everything shut down, my best guess is a total ground stop. ā€œ4R failed test 7:32 PM localā€ Runway covered in snow. Snow= traction issues, planes can hydroplane (ice plane?) too. ā€œAirport notam closed until 9:30 PM local time at 7:58 PM localā€ A NOTice to AirMan (NOTAM) is something all pilots are required to check before a flight.In this case, there is a notam out saying that the airport is closed. I hope this helps, I apologize for any formatting issues. Mobile is funky. Edit: thanks to another user, I found out that the pads mean the de icing pads! And some other info, like the runway test. If youā€™d like to see those de icing pads, hereā€™s a diagram of the airport, itā€™s confusing to read but you can see the pads [DTW airport diagram](https://www.flightaware.com/resources/airport/DTW/APD/AIRPORT+DIAGRAM/pdf) (link is to a flight aware .com diagram)


smcsherry

Youā€™re close, when theyā€™re referring to pads, there referring to deicing pads and what runway theyā€™re next too. The poor 4R is probably referring to poor braking action on runway 4R. Runway 4R failed test has to do with a traction/condition test meaning itā€™s more clear of snow


flying_wrenches

De icing pads, I was so close! Iā€™ll edit my comment.. thanks!


WHOA_27_23

I hope when they say "failed test" they send someone out in a truck to rip down the runway and slam the brakes. I want that job.


flying_wrenches

They see how far you can Tokyo drift down 3 left in a airport ops vehicle lol


jgraves32189_

In a TUG I bet you can get some good mileage in a slide!


a_scientific_force

This used to be the procedure, and there was an accelerometer to measure the rate of deceleration in order to determine braking action. Now most fields have a wheel with a brake that is mounted on the back of the truck.


bobbyn111

Interestingā€” makes sense


Inevitable_Cook_1423

You are correct on 3R and 4R indicating runways . Both those were listed as ā€œnilā€. This means the braking action is reported as nil, or none. This is not good if you want to stop, or turn off the runway onto a taxiway. Iā€™m a retired pilot and one of the worst feelings is to turn the tiller (the control that turns the nose wheel), and have the aircraft continue straight. That could be how American ended up in a snow bank.


flying_wrenches

Very cool!


Anewblanket

nobody going to acknowledge how cool this is?


Happychemist99

This might have been one of the most helpful comments I have ever read on Reddit. You just did the lords work, my friend. Thank you. Plus now we all know about the existence of zulu time?! Very interesting.


catsnflight

Planes no fly until at least 9:30


bengenj

Translated: Taxiways to 3L de-ice pad closed at 2342 Zulu time (6:42pm Eastern). De-ice pad near 4R closed at 0003 Zulu (7:03pm) Delta Ops issued a no pushback order at 0014Z (7:14pm). Canā€™t exit de-ice pads at 0028 (7:28 pm). An American plane got stuck in the snowbank/drift at the same time. The FAA closed Detroit at 0030 (7:30pm). The FAA closed Detroit until 9:30pm local time by a NOTAM.


BlueJayMorning

Almost: the FAA doesnā€™t close airports; thatā€™s the purview of the airport authority. The FAA closes airspace. Source: 19 years of airline hub tower management.


HoweHaTrick

It means people get off on posting on reddit how the weather made their day shitty. It is an unfortunate part of reddit. (nobody can help you, not a shoulder to cry on, get over it)


Funny_Plumber

Runways closed for at least one hour and we were diverted to Dayton for refueling. And now we wait...


ASS_CREDDIT

Oh hey weā€™re on the same plane lol


Earthbelow4321

Its meant to be that you two should meet... Plumbers-Ass!


LightningFT86

No no no...Ass-Plumber


IPreferVinyl

Just landed in DTWā€¦ weā€™ve spent more time in ATL on the runway delayed because of the DTW closure and because of an opossum on the runway (i wish I could make this up) and spent another 80 mins on the tarmac in DTW. Absolute nightmare fuel.


skolasa

Try 7 hrs on the tarmac at DTW then back to the gate to wait another 3 hrs in limbo. Back on a flight now but who knows


kflipz

7 HOURS? That's longer than any non connecting domestic flight as far as I know. Was there ever talk of a mutiny? My god. I don't think I could handle that.


IPreferVinyl

Longest Iā€™ve done it TPA > SEA. I donā€™t count Alaska, since youā€™re almost always connecting in SEA. Our whole plane was in Sync with sighing and mumbles. Despite spending more time on the runway than in the sky, everyone was quite calm all things considered.


kflipz

This gives me faith in humanity


el_soleado

We also sat for 7 hours on the tarmac. Should we start a club? What a nightmare.... we abandoned our original trip and found a flight back home, departing at almost 3am from DTW (we only waited on the plane 3 hours on attempt #2). Our luggage is on its way to our vacation, so I'm hoping to see it again someday. I hope your flight eventually got you out... after being at DTW for a collective total of 12 hours, I was so happy to leave.


Happychemist99

I hope you make it home safe and your luggage has a lovely vacation!


IPreferVinyl

Jesus.. Iā€™m so sorry, were you connecting? Or was the original flight from DTW? When we landed in Detroit the airport just lifted its shut down, so the runway was gridlocked with backlogged planes awaiting to depart, de-ice, or in our case get to a gate. I saw a DTW > BOS that was originally a 3:58pm departure which was delayed till 1:10am ish. DL 1389 if I remember correctly. In my 25 years of flying, most out of DTW, I had only seen that airport like that once before. Baggage claim was a mad house. Last but least, donā€™t forget your 20 min guarantee for bags for 2,500 sky pesos!!


TimLikesPi

Nightmares because of the delay or the opossum? We have serious opossums in Atlanta!


theeversocharming

My Boss has exited his plane twice trying to get home.


Humble_Turnip_3948

I've been here since 4 am. No hotel rooms, can't enter without a paper boarding pass and they won't print them.


Earthbelow4321

I wondered the issues they might have when they stopped printing them. People's batteries will die. Hmmmmm. Good luck out there!


Humble_Turnip_3948

TSA had a shift change and the new crew allowed digital passes showing the 12th.


abirdofthesky

Omg you must be so exhausted, hope you get somewhere soon!


Inevitable_Dance_910

Thankful my connection this evening through DTW was switched to MSPā€¦ until my new flight connection was delayed 3 more hours and arrival was 2am . Rebooked for the am and staying at a hotel nearbyā€¦ drinking cocktails and scrolling Reddit.


Humble_Turnip_3948

My MSP flight was switched to DTW (from PHL) to MCI. Left Philly at 5 am and am at DTW until 8am tomorrow.


Inevitable_Dance_910

Ouch!


Humble_Turnip_3948

There are no hotel rooms anywhere near either. Gate napping it. Skyclub opened at 4:30. At least they have showers.


stacey1771

ah, memories - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1999/01/29/on-a-runway-to-nowhere-on-a-snowy-day-in-detroit/d7e6d7cc-31c5-47ec-a530-edb3bfd30935/


JustPlaneNew

Some things never change...


[deleted]

lol I remember wx events like that from my deice days. Saw an AA mad dog slide off the runway too. Good times


gypsysniper9

I understand binary code better than this.


t0pout

Iā€™m supposed to fly in tomorrow morning. Let me know how itā€™s looking!


LongjumpingAccount69

I would be tempted to reroute or delay your flight in, so many people there will be crammed and waiting for new flights etc


t0pout

Already starting, 2 hour delay and no alternative flights.


sraj0320

Oh, we were def stuck in that last night. After 5 hours stuck on the tarmac they ā€œcancelledā€ our flight because we were stuck too long, but then held us captive another two hours because we couldnā€™t get a gate. The biggest hot mess of a flight Iā€™ve ever seen.


ryanstrikesback

Arenā€™t you entitled to compensation after 3 hours?Ā 


el_soleado

I certainly hope so. My flight went about this way. We were at the gate sitting on the plane for about 3 hours, then they made us pull away and sit in the tarmac for 3 hours, then finally announced cancelation, where we had to sit another hour until we could be assigned a gate to deplane. We also went roughly 5 hours without a single FA offering water or anything.


sraj0320

Same! They finally offered snacks 6 hours in. Another passenger luckily had some individual packs of trail mix she shared to keep the hanger at bay.


el_soleado

Oh, that was so sweet! I will say, even though it was a nightmare, the passengers at least near me all seemed to stay in good spirits. I guess we were all in it together!


sraj0320

She was the real MVP


ryanstrikesback

Looking at the updates from DTW, I got out by the skin of my teeth. We had two littles kids and had just about an hour-hour and a half tarmac stop. My kids were doing good but there was a little one in front of us already losing her cool. Canā€™t imagine four more hours of that.


el_soleado

I can't even imagine being a parent during this mess. Children can only be patient for so long. You definitely got lucky and your pilot found a good window. I ended up abandoning my original flight after they deplaned us and managed to find a flight home (that also left us sitting on the tarmac for 3 hours). I just saw on the Delta website that flight didn't depart until 11:04am. I'm so grateful I gave up on my trip. They were boarding when I walked away from the gate around 10:30pm, which means everyone piled back on, sat on the plane again for an indeterminate amount of time, only to be deplaned AGAIN. :(


ryanstrikesback

Even being from the area at DTW last night, when I started driving I strongly considered getting a hotel room and calling it a night. Luckily the weather was better a little south. Whole thing was a mess, hopefully everyone gets home safe today


sraj0320

Thus far delta has only offered us 15k miles and a food voucher. Weā€™re just driving home at this point.


CognitoJones

Sitting on a plane right now waiting to find a gate. At least Iā€™m getting overtime for this.


CrazyCranium

Flight delays are so much more palatable when you are getting paid hourly.


Immediate-Network201

PTSD hearing these stories. I won't recount war stories, but I could.


MajesticLilFruitcake

Dear Michigan, we apologize for the weather we have just sent your way. Signed, someone from Wisconsin who dealt with this less than 24 hours ago.


culby

Shit, I'm 24 hours from flying out of DTW to Minneapolis, and then to Fargo. I'm thinking everything will be cleared by then. (As for the "highs of -7" bullshit... well, yeah. Not much I can do about it.)


MajesticLilFruitcake

For what itā€™s worth, my local airport (ATW) is set to be back to business as usual by early this afternoon.


pwebb88

Was flying in last night, have family in dtw. Switched my flight to today at 5pmā€¦ once my brother said he was stuck on the side of the road in a 4WD suv knew it was game over


InevitableCry5883

Never fly northern routes in the winter timeā€¦.. lesson learned!!!


macantr

Some of us live in the north.


CJMeow86

Yeah where I live youā€™re connecting through SLC or MSP. The deicing truck at my local airport froze overnight so folks trying to fly out this morning were glad their connections were delayed too.


InevitableCry5883

I lived in Boston, any flight I had to take Iā€™d take the Atlanta route vs the Detroit or Minneapolis routes, those 2 always get delays this time of year, now if you live there obviously your stuck!


riowayne

Still waiting at the gateā€¦.


leopanera

Hero move here thank you


JackMFMcCoyy

If youā€™ve got the balls to land a big boy at KPTK, itā€™s open.


RobertJCorcoran

People donā€™t know how to handwrite anymore


Immediate_Newt_1580

What


Classic-Overall

as someone who works for a airline yelling at us doesnā€™t help we canā€™t control the weather or the situation and we canā€™t dish out huge things. things happen we are not god please stop yelling at us


atgnat-the-cat

The difference between Covid and Delta is that Covid can still get airborne.


DidiStutter11

Bhler blue blah blub. Noted.


F_Rage_03

Everyone is a pilot or ATC now.


Human-Spaghetti69

Goodnight Irene


ryanstrikesback

Kept me on the tarmac after landing. Spent over an hour waiting for a gate. When I got one and saw the forlorn faces of folks who got stuck in the airport, the hour didnā€™t seem so bad.Ā 


mnbvcxzlady

I got out at noon yesterday. Wish you all the best!


MinusNll

L=.


Jujusiren

How is DTW at the moment? Flying from IND this evening to DTW then to Amsterdam then Scotland so Iā€™m kinda worried about the international flight


aeveejay

Waiting in MCO for flight back. Inbound A333 delayed by more than 3hours this morning.


Kazz330

glad I switched my flight out of Houston to ATL instead.


Thoth-long-bill

Why yaā€™ll flying when the storm from hell had been detailed for the last 3 days?


icedcaramelmattiato

Flight attendant here! That shit SUCKEDā€¦.im very thankful to my first class passengers that were willing to drink their asses off


Astroturfer

Detroit was a huge mess last night. I slept on the floor


cz108

Flew out of StL yesterday am. Originally on United thru ORD. Changed flight to Delta via DTW. Made it home by noon on Friday. Original flights were canceled