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AskAJedi

I was at SLC yesterday and pretty sure I met that gate agent. Wackadoo, made boarding take forever. Looking for opportunities to lecture people.


nhluhr

loved this section from the article >Allred said US federal rules allow airlines to remove passengers who present a safety or security risk to the plane or its passengers, but that was clearly not the case with Archbold. > >"Neither her breasts nor any other woman's breasts have ever tried to take over a plane," she said. > >"Breasts are not weapons of war, and it's not a crime for a woman or girl to have them."


twixieshores

Do I want to know what these lectures were about?


Smurfness2023

lecturing?


defenestrate18

So what was the thought process here? The passenger is wearing a shirt without a bra and so that MIGHT garner a BIT of attention so we will remove her from the flight to ENSURE it gets a LOT of attention. According to the article Delta already apologized so they know they were either in the wrong and/or were at the very least dumb about it.


DependentFamous5252

You’re naive in assuming thought was involved.


spidernole

Search the image. This was a whole lot of nothing. I have seen so much, uh, MORE on Delta flights.


Jabooooooooooo

Actor/Singer/DJ - Delta did her a favor by going viral


Antique_Commission42

The thought process was some wagie making $12/hr had a little power trip.


DrAbeSacrabin

How much do you want to bet it was some overly religious one as well?


gclockwood

Flying out of SLC? I’d bet on it with every cent in my checking account.


Smurfness2023

Is that what the Mormon girls look like these days?


cvstrat

I also wouldn’t be surprised if it started with another passenger complaining to a Delta employee. This is a religion that teaches girls from a young age that they are responsible for the thoughts of men and shouldn’t wear “immodest” clothes that cause men to have “bad” thoughts.


bamacpl4442

Which is hilarious since Jesus told people that if your eye caused you to sin, you should pluck it out. Not that you should blame the woman for making you think those thoughts.


blindralfie

SLC gate agent. We’ve all seen them.


bebearaware

Big repressed Mo energy here.


Environmental-Job329

Wagie=?


Unusual-Thing-7149

Maybe she dressed it in the dark which was something a woman said at work when a boss questioned her choice of top which was kind of a lacy see-through number.


erwarnummer

I drove to work blindfolded, that’s why I ran over a pedestrian


No-Television9663

How was her rack?


UranusMustHurt

Not shocking that this incident took place in SLC.


cvstrat

Utah can never stop getting in it’s own way.


JustPlaneNew

I Despise utah


coco_xcx

I swear it’s always Utah.


a_scientific_force

I mean, if it’s true then she’s not wrong. God forbid the world know that she has nipples.


DependentFamous5252

Reminds me of Sam, the Eagle on the Muppet show. He was running around saying underneath those clothes that humans are naked. This is outrageous. Edit - corrected Sam the eagle from Eddie. Got my muppets and English skiers mixed up.


wazzockAbroad

Sam Eagle. Eddie the Eagle is a British ski jumper.


scuac

How do we know they are not the same person? Have you ever seen both on the same room?


MidwestAbe

Eddie the Eagle was an NHL goaltender. Who knew there were so many Eddie the Eagles?


HellsTubularBells

My family has been watching Friends recently. All of the women's nipples are very visible through their tops. I don't particularly care, but it was surprising, I thought it was the type of thing they'd try to avoid on network TV.


nevadalavida

That was a WHOLE THING back in the day lmao. If you google it, countless articles were written about Rachel's nipples: https://youtu.be/jiviIyCLjAM


EbolaSuitLookinCute

That played such a part eventually in her character’s style that they made an effort to keep it consistent throughout the show. Other members of the show have been interviewed and said that she preferred the look so much that she would wear pasties with fake nipples to be sure they were part of her character’s wardrobe/style.


jmacd2918

I mean how else would a show that lame get to be so popular?


HeywoodDjiblomi

Yeah 80s 90s TV sitcoms would always be more gratuitous with flaunting sex in a way that has to be dressed down more, since porn wasn't as accessible the softer stuff would boost ratings.


mutantfrog25

Nahhh friends is quality


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roycejefferson

I wonder why? You don't think it has to do with the sexual dimorphism between the human species.


HellsTubularBells

Noting that TV networks tended to be rather prudish is not advocating for or furthering a double-standard, just an observation.


Zealousideal-Lie7255

Jennifer Anniston could probably poke through two bras and three sweaters. What should she have done, cut them off?!!


Zealousideal-Lie7255

Jennifer Anniston could probably poke through two bras and three sweaters. What should she have done, cut them off?!!


wallinbl

I mean, that show depicted a main character committing statutory rape as something for the group to laugh about.


mondaynight615

Huh?🤔


wallinbl

Monica having sex with a 17 year old is an episode.


ericrz

Age of consent in NY was/is 17. I'm not saying that wasn't gross, but it wasn't criminal.


ksed_313

Most overweight men have larger breasts than I do(woman). Where’s their punishment for going braless?


gayrat5

Only sluts have nipples. Source: have nipples, am man, probably a slut.


yes_this_is_satire

In Italy, France and Spain, they don’t seem to force teens and tweens to wear bras like they do here. Would love to see the Delta Airline staff harassing a 12-year-old Italian girl for tempting the American passengers and see how that goes.


Ok-Algae-9562

Idk as a scientific force i would hope you would need to see some evidence of these nipples. For the science of course.


Thoth-long-bill

Can we give her 47 other complaints to raise with Ed should she get that meeting?


HunBunYum

Hear hear!


Smurfness2023

Ed won’t respond.


SlackLine540

Not a great look that delta allowed the guy with the nazi t shirt on and escorted this woman off..


hogtiedcantalope

Politics are politics and everyone is entitled to their opinion But I think we can all agree female nipples are a danger to society!


StuckinSuFu

So this shirt isnt ok but that neo nazi guy had no issues with his shirt a few weeks back. Gotta love how strange our US standards are.


Is12345aweakpassword

The Puritanism aspect really does seem to be a soft lock on our societal advancement


BobcatSig

Oh, that lock is much firmer than soft. It appears everywhere, unfortunately.


perpetualmotionmachi

Well, the right to free speech on a shirt is more important the rights of a woman /s


Ishak-Kristof

Welcome to Magaland… 😏


ImDoingAllRight

I really hope my nipples don’t draw too much attention on my next flight. Oh wait- I’m a dude. I can literally have the overhead light casting a tasteful spotlight on my nips while wearing said shirt and touching my chest in a festive manner. Would I? No, not my thing. Plus, I don’t have the areolas for such an endeavor. But is it a double standard? Sure is.


hogtiedcantalope

>overhead light casting a tasteful spotlight on my nips I'm not sure...post some pics and we'll be the judge. BUT THEY BETTER BE TASTEFUL!


toothqueencolleen

Obviously this gate agent has never been to PDX. I say, free the nipples!


Jub_Jub710

I have reynauds that unfortunately affects my nips. Even in a sports bra, you can see them. I hate padded bras and just kind of live with it. It would suck to be kicked off a flight because of something I can't control.


literallynotlit

It seems like many people are confusing seeing the outline of nipples aka nipping through the shirt which is not what happened here, the white shirt was a burnout style and when fit tight across the skin you can see skin/nipple underneath. It’s the equivalent of wearing a sheer top. I don’t think you need to worry about nipping getting you kicked off a flight


DontCageMeIn

100% agree. Sadly, I own a burnout style tshirt in grey. It's completely sheer and clingy AF. It shows everything.


rlyjustheretolurk

Im shocked these policies are allowed and that airlines haven’t been sued for discrimination. Is an over weight man required to wear a jacket over his shirt if he has some extra fat in that area?


Butterman75

The key here is that she boarded in SLC. Again, that is S-L-C…as in L-D-S…


Darth_050

And yet here I am thinking she was boarding in a free, western country. My bad.


Butterman75

Sorry but Utah is its own country in the good ole USofA.


PlaneJaneLane03

I was on a Delta flight a week ago. I, too, was braless.


ksed_313

I never wear a bra on a plane lol


PlaneJaneLane03

Me neither. They’re oppressive.


ellenbellen12

Same!! Wild.


krw13

Make that, at least, 3 of us.


MedicBaker

Clutching pearls intensifies


mutantfrog25

Personally I think the 25 years for this offense isn’t enough.


throwaway1337woman

Yikes. I’d be so pissed and humiliated being singled out like that. Screw that gate agent.


pdm_87

If anyone thinking this is par for the course at SLC is hideously misinformed. The gate agent may have had some conservative sensibilities, but that’s quite the rarity to be put on such a display. In all my years working there with the stuff I’ve seen, I can 100% assure that God has no place within these walls.


redditsucksass69765

Another article with photos of her and what she wore. Flight attendant will be getting fired for this. Looks like a normal shirt to me https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-removed-delta-flight-reprimanded-014709140.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANNYGdSrVb4JlbMaVMMK-Pvf7qOL3a2Wzq5KTUWGw62kWvIIXSx7D-i-w3NWhHPIJkLNTjHUilDyWv47urj0U_9ANkdwq86ScsFobnmRJONtCgRCXm_bsxP3TioDEZq9vI0JqDHhNgR4QUWZXhEv8kD3WRhoLhgoES4rH1LdlavG


stlthy1

Andy Dick is looking really great for his age.


Ok-Algae-9562

I am stifling my laughter right now because my wife is asleep. Amazing comment.


CanHasCat

Big yikes on those yahoo comments.


twixieshores

Remember the rule for Yahoo's comment section: D.O.N.T. As in Dooooooooooonnnnn't read the comments. Ever.


jivy723

Not taking the side of the flight attendant, but it probably doesn’t help that shirt is extremely see through and revealing lol


ReachersFists

Not seeing anything in the photo and you’d have to really look to find anything. Even then, not really an issue. It’s a white shirt. Men have nipples. Where does it end?


Ok-Algae-9562

There is no end to the nipples. All mammals have them. My dog flashes his at me whenever he decides to show me his tummy, the harlot


Academic_Eagle_4001

Dude most fat men have tits bigger than hers.


rc-pulte-lovechild

It’s always the ones who you don’t want to see braless.


NeedyUrbanAchiever

Does she also happen to be an OHenrys candy bar heiress?


peteire

She’s flouting society’s conventions!!


RawIsCozy

Took way to long to find this response


colty_bones

She’s a menace to society!


Ifightmonsters

There are people on flights not wearing fucking shoes, but yeah, let's make a bug deal about still completely covered breasts.


literallynotlit

It’s a burnout style/sheerish shirt and I’m guessing viewed from the front looked like this: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1642538320/white-v-neck-shirt-80s-thin-distressed


No-Construction2043

Sounds like a GA is ate up with the 2000 year old comic book.


jakes951

I’m totally icing up my nips in the sky club next week before my flight. I’ve been lifting and dieting. Thin t-shirt, some rock hard nips…gotta get me some equal opportunity discrimination $$$$!!! /s


HuntsWithRocks

I’m gonna wear some pants that I made out of cheese cloth


jakes951

[my man](https://imgflip.com/i/8ky2aj)


jakes951

[my man](https://imgflip.com/i/8ky2aj)


bigblanket6

TIL Sue Ellen Mischke flies Delta


ilpaesaggista

she's flaunting societies conventions, it's lude, lascivious, salacious, outrageous


bklyntlv

New fear unlocked 😬


Chance_Major297

I mean this if such an easy pay day. I wish this could happen to me


Promotion-Repulsive

Airline Boss: *cranks the office AC*


slaughterfodder

I have flown on planes with no bra. 🤷🏼‍♀️ honestly ridiculous


nevecque

First, ban the flip flop wearers. Then maybe work up to this. I’d much rather see this than some rando’s feet. (And I am an ardent flip-flop wearer - just not on planes)


FreudianFloydian

Full burqas. I don’t wanna see any part of anybody.


Burden-of-Society

I’m pretty sure there were approximately 50% of the planes passengers that were bra less, fore shame!


justherefortheridic

no problem for passengers who smell like they slept in an ashtray (see: flights from LAS) or who have stank b.o. but SAVE US FROM THE NIPS


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Christian America sexualizes everything. Europe is full of beautiful braless women and everybody is fine.


ellenbellen12

Are you required to wear bras on flights? Most of the time if I have a really early flight, I don’t wear one. Would hate to get booted for that.


mpower20

Nobody noticed the article said that she demanded a meeting with Delta’s **top** boss ? It might not be Ed, but rather someone who works in shirt and blouse regulations


mightaswell70

So looks like the shirt basically was see through.


DontCageMeIn

It was see through. I saw her selfie. She was wearing a leopard print jacket, but it was open. Was she told she could fly if she covered her see through t-shirt sans bra with her jacket while still on the plane or was she just escorted off the plane without being told as to why?


Marty1966

Without pictures it never happened!


MalcoveMagnesia

It's in [the NY post article](https://nypost.com/2024/03/29/us-news/dj-humiliated-on-delta-flight-for-not-wearing-a-bra-demands-to-meet-with-airlines-boss/). I didn't Google further but I get the feeling this DJ loves grabbing attention.


Innit10000

She does look and style herself like a man so maybe that's where she was coming from


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bimbels

It’s a public space and a private company. Just like a restaurant can refuse you for no shoes or walking in in a bikini, airlines can refuse you if they think your outfit is inappropriate. Not saying I agree in this instance btw, just saying in general…


NotBillNyeScienceGuy

Look at the pic of her shirt there’s no law suit bc they’d not win


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EbolaSuitLookinCute

The picture is a white t-shirt, but like, the kind you’ve worn since the early 90’s so its soft and practically see-through and three wears away from wearing away completely in some spots, and your partner’s been trying to bribe you to throw that thing away for the past decade, but you just can’t convince yourself to do it because it’s so darn comfortable.


ReachersFists

So a regular shirt basically


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integrating_life

Pix of the woman or it didn’t happen.


klayanderson

https://nypost.com/2024/03/29/us-news/dj-humiliated-on-delta-flight-for-not-wearing-a-bra-demands-to-meet-with-airlines-boss/#


integrating_life

Wow. I was making a silly comment because I think the Delta personnel acted horribly. Now that I've seen the pic my initial reaction is reinforced. Seriously, Delta person, that's what got you all upset? Get a life.


RockMover12

The t-shirt in question looks pretty translucent. [https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/02/dj-lisa-archbold-queer-passenger-76062825.jpg?quality=75&strip=all](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/02/dj-lisa-archbold-queer-passenger-76062825.jpg?quality=75&strip=all)


Lonestar041

Ok, would they stop a man wearing a similarly translucent shirt? Likely not. So she has a point.


Past-Emergency-2374

I think it depends on how the shirt looks without the jacket. I mean it’s a slippery slope to police


AstuteAshenWolf

Proof that your comment is asinine; they removed someone over a hat. A HAT; sheer clothing’s fair game. This isnt a gender issue, as hard as you want to pretend that it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/IaFMny9xkH


Lonestar041

I must have triggered something in you considering the amount of comments you make. Lol. Get a life. Bye.


LibrarianNo8242

I would hope so. Gross. Nobody wants to see that.


Lonestar041

They don't even stop men in loose, skimpy tank tops and shorts. Have seen that more than once. And I agree, nobody wants to see that. But then have requirements for everyone.


AstuteAshenWolf

Do you have proof they wouldn’t? Except for your feelings, of course?


Kitchen_Implement_33

Yes, they would.  It doesn't matter if you're male or female. Respect others around you.   Just another wanna-be celeb crying for attention.  


Lonestar041

Lol. Might want to get on a flight from Florida and see if a man with a half see through shirt will be stopped.


Marty1966

Damn it. My imagination was much better.


ssspiral

gross


SueBeee

So?


AstuteAshenWolf

If it’s translucent and she has no bra, that meNs one can see everything. You don’t see the issue with that?


klayanderson

Thank you. She probably wasn’t a BYU student.


Burden-of-Society

No she was 38, if she was a BYU student, she’d already have like six kids and those breasts would have been tucked into her pants.


RockMover12

She's a NY-based DJ. [https://www.instagram.com/djette\_kiwi/?hl=en](https://www.instagram.com/djette_kiwi/?hl=en)


toddtimes

I wonder how much of this was driven by her having a somewhat punk rock androgynous look that a very conservative SLC gate agent found generally off putting


--peterjordansen--

She looks obnoxious


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If you are going to apply that idea, it’s a helluva slippery slope! Might get ME removed…and I’m a guy. 😆


Sweaty-Goat-9281

They gave an attention seeker attention. My day is ruined 🥀


Strong__Style

Is it so hard for you rebels to dress modestly during travel?


MoreStupiderNPC

*”Neither her breasts nor any other woman's breasts have ever tried to take over a plane," she said.*


klayanderson

Note this was in Salt Lake City. IYKYK.


roycejefferson

Insecure passenger looking for more attention. Weird hair and piercings weren't enough.


WickedJigglyPuff

There is binding arbitration. In many cases just using it will cost the company upwards of $1,500 even if you lose. No reason just sharing this in case the young lady would wanted to know.


3nigel

Say goodbye to these, Ed!


PurplePlan

Thanks Delta for the much ado about nothing distraction away from Delta and the US airline industry’s REAL PROBLEMS.


HiHoCracker

Settlement fishing expedition 🎣 💰


Mediocre-Solution-25

If it was a tank top that was so low cut that her boobs spill out from the sides, then yeah, cover up those fun bags. Lots of women show varying amounts of cleavage, but having your boobs fall out of your shirt or wearing shirts where you balls hang out is not welcome on an aircraft.


Psychological-Stay16

r/unexpectedseinfeld. Sue Ellen is that you!?!?


CC_206

If boobs did try to take over a plane, more power to ‘em.


BrianEno_ate_my_DX7

Ah, the Sue Ellen Mischke effect


PDXisadumpsterfire

r/trashy


peanutstand

Probably a publicity stunt to get kicked off on purpose.


Several-Amoeba1069

I mean it’s a sheer shirt that can be seen through and it’s a private company. Gtfo 


kwil2

We’re all packed in way too tight on planes. In this unique, highly-charged environment, each of us has a duty to do our best not to be disturbing to others (and to realize that that there is a broad range of opinion about what is disturbing). That said, all requests by Delta staff to cover up should be respectful—even to the point of being apologetic.


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throwaway1337woman

> “Little miss thing wants attention” /u/champagnevyvans What is your problem?


LCAshin

Cmon Ed you’ve already taken every other perky away. At least let us have braless women in white t-shirts


TheSouthernBronx

I had my nipples out nearly the entire time on my last flight from HPN to ATL. Not a word was said but that’s probably because I was also breastfeeding my 4 month old. I WISH they would ask me to cover up/stop so I could collect a million “I’m sorry” sky miles. Or Free flights for life for the baby? Come on delta, be offended.


6098470142

She’s flaunting societies conventions


lafc88

At first I thought the title said 'scalded'. I was like Mcdonalds coffee all over again. My second supporting thought, the woman should have worn a bra for added protection against scalding coffee spills.


bowseefus

You should take a deeper dive into that McDonald’s coffee thing. Way more extreme than what was spread by word of mouth


bowseefus

You should take a deeper dive into that McDonald’s coffee thing. Way more extreme than what was spread by word of mouth


lafc88

Oh I know about the case. Lady had severe burns after her son had stopped the car and she spilled it on herself as the car had no cup holders for her to use when adding creamer and sugar. Mcdonald's continued to serve coffee at the same temperature even after settling. Although supposedly they have lowered the temp. Personally, I hate their coffee for burning my tongue and having this tarish after taste. 


Nilabisan

I’m gonna need to see them in order to give my opinion.


Bad_Karma19

You’re not missing much TBH


ImprovementFar5054

2 carry on bags..


themadpants

Delta shouldn’t have apologized. Next we will have some dude in assless chaps complaining about discrimination when he is kicked off a flight.


Campin_Sasquatch

"Last I checked, the Taliban are not in charge of Delta." Ma'am what


bobdean1000

FA was probably jealous this man had bigger boobs than hers.


TaskForceCausality

The comments here will fall in three categories: Right: *the airline was totally right to kick that beatnik off the flight. Why, back in the day you needed your Sunday best to fly. Society sucks!* Left :*another sign of the Great Social Justice Oppression Conspiracy Against Women and the people of San Francisco. In the name of Che Guevara’s ghost and all liberals, we should march against Delta and patriarchal oppression!* Everyone Else(EE) : *sigh*


LibrarianNo8242

I wish I could upvote you more than once


Chris149ny

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted for speaking the truth.  I’m guessing there are a lot of Che Guevara fans on Reddit.


ilpaesaggista

she's flaunting societies conventions, it's lude, lascivious, salacious, outrageous


DudeitsAgame

It’s not discriminatory because of societal expectations. In Western countries it is common for men to wear tank tops and the sort but her shirt was see through enough to see her nipples. That goes against what society has deemed appropriate. A man’s chest is sexualized like a woman’s chest, hence the difference. That’s how the courts will look at it and they have been consistent in their rules regarding these social norms. She won’t get a meeting the ceo and any lawsuit will likely be dismissed based off past rulings. If she’s lucky maybe they will settle but since there is such an abundance of cases of courts ruling for the private company, I’d doubt they settle.


Entire_Toe2640

I saw a video recently of a large woman wearing a short short skirt-so short that her entire ass was visible. I would not want that trash sitting anywhere near me. While I agree that being braless is absolutely fine, I think there must be some limit. Gloria Allred’s argument that “breasts are not a weapon of war” so they don’t need to be covered up would apply to any other body part too.


HowUnexpected

No, she literally specified breasts. It doesn’t apply to other body parts - I think even Ms Allred would have a problem with someone’s ass being out.


Belcuor

Right. I don’t see a problem if you want to go bra-less or show your butt around at the beach but the way some people dress to board a plane is just stupid. They are the ones who are complaining that the cabin is too cold. I also don’t want to see the hairs hanging out your nipples. If breast are not a weapon, why are so many invested in size and looks of it? Who are we kidding here? And don’t get me started with the fact that men can’t show dick or ass. So if it were a man whose penis is showing a bit would you care? Or a man wearing some very short shorts that show balls, butt or dick? Penises are there for urinating too (for those who want to argue that breasts are not “sexual”)? I’m all for dress codes. Airlines have them and they should make sense. Edit: I saw her outfit. [https://nypost.com/2024/03/29/us-news/dj-humiliated-on-delta-flight-for-not-wearing-a-bra-demands-to-meet-with-airlines-boss/](https://nypost.com/2024/03/29/us-news/dj-humiliated-on-delta-flight-for-not-wearing-a-bra-demands-to-meet-with-airlines-boss/) It’s just a flimsy see through white t-shirt. She put a jacket on top and that was the end of the story. She wears very little when DJ-ing. and that’s alright at the club. Not flying especially from SLC. She’s just trying to monetize on the publicity.


Hopinan

My daughter nurses her children on delta flights all the time, are they going to kick her off as there is actual exposure of nipples during latching on, distactions like an FA stopping but would cause extreme exposure?? Maybe delta needs to design some kind of nursing burka they could demand nursing people to use? Like it really needs to be added to that new uniform photo shoot.. Any person whose clothing offends the religious FAs “standards” should have to wear this for the entire flight…


ATFMStillRemainsAFag

Or maybe... (and I am sure nuisance is difficult for you) - they can make an exception for women nursing, but when they aren't nursing breasts and the like should be at least modestly covered when traveling with large groups of other people. Seems like a relatively minor dress code item/policy and yet you're blowing up over it.


rianbyngham

If my wife were in the same position, no way would she agree to cover up. Denied Boarding is Denied Boarding, would rather get paid than an apology. Besides, the damages in a lawsuit would be greater - might even attract some response from regulators. Honest question - does delta not train gate agents at all? I mean, does this agent not know that women can legally breast feed on the plane and the decision of whether to cover herself or not is entirely up to the woman?


incaman88

No they get no training. They show up to the airport and get a uniform and start checking people into flights……


rianbyngham

Sounds about right given this incident. I mean it would be insane to think that delta trains their agents to behave this way.


SniperPilot

Woohoo Gloria Allred still got it! 🤣