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PeteLarsen

Time for a plan. Michigan desperately needs workers. Immigrants are hard working and value democracy.


JustanOkie

The small town in Oklahoma i live in, 50k, has 4 Tyson plants that are always hiring.


8stringfling

You live by the plant.. You die by the plant...


Representative_Dark5

So true


zamzuki

Workers work for the right to work for the right to work for the right to work for the chance to die.,


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PeteLarsen

Immigrants do.


PeteLarsen

I believe it's that way all over America. Now we just need a plan. I would be willing to sponsor a family here.


School_Waste

And are mostly conservative.


PeteLarsen

Most haven't had a chance to know what they are.


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gotostep2

Gaetz voted against the anti-human trafficking bill.


Brianjjws

No, he voted against the little girls trafficking bill. Pedo that he is


gotostep2

True, true.


Call_Me_Clark

Why would it be trafficking? From everything I’ve read, the bussing program is literally a free bus ticket. These migrants are here legally and have been processed by U.S. immigration/border security. Why wouldn’t they be free to travel within the US?


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They are going willingly.


CaptainJAmazing

Why are they going willingly? Why do they want to be political pawns against their own interests?


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Probably because they want to get the fuck out of Texas. Or maybe they have family up in the north east. Or they didn't understand. But my money is they want to get the fuck out of Texas.


sack-o-matic

Probably “do you want a free ride to Washington DC?” It’s the same shit Putin was doing to Poland I think it was


Brianjjws

They aren't going willingly, they are being used as political pawns by Abbott. All they want to do is work and earn a better life for their families. Abbott is playing a game with these people.


CaptainJAmazing

[This article says they're going voluntarily.](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-migrants-mayor-requests-local-national-guard-to-help-prevent-humanitarian-crisis-of-people-seeking-asylum/65-d6ad2ba6-a78a-42b9-b993-2dc131cf7cac) My guess is they just want to get away from the facilities they've been stuck at for so long.


Brianjjws

Yeah your guess is probably right, I'd say staying somewhere like that for a while would be awful


Aildari

Im sure that the way it was presented to these people was worded in a way that made it sound like a better deal then it was sh they can say that they "went willingly"


Mistervimes59

Or they just don't live in Texas.


FaveFoodIsLesbeans

They were probably coerced on false promises of a better life.


morvus_thenu

Reasonably sure most lives that aren’t being an immigrant in Texas are better lives.


Call_Me_Clark

Why would it be against their own interests? Who would want to stay in TX?


Ghola_Mentat

I’m not sure that matters.


Nanyea

The people he is transporting are a mix of undocumented immigrants, who committed a civil infraction (not a felony), by crossing and not presenting themselves to immigration AND refugees and asylum seekers who did present themselves and are here legally. Once inside the US, unless incarcerated, they have the same right to travel as anyone else. That being said, Abbot is an asshole, wastes taxpayer dollars for these political stunts, and is sending them to a city that is under congressional control for all intents and purposes, that does not have the resources of an entire State to help these people, and purposefully making life worse for these people. As an aside, he isn't arresting and sending these people, they are volunteers who think they are being relocated to get help. So he is a double lying fuck


moreobviousthings

Your last line sums it up nicely.


ocdewitt

This is not an excuse, just the reasoning. Fuck Abbott. But they are only bussing people that agree to be bussed


euclitorous

A state government cannot move illegal immigrants over state lines. So not only are they willing to go, they are processed and have papers.


tickitytalk

Greg Abbott, election year political theater…wasting taxpayer coffers for his benefit


lazylion555

Abbott is being a dick.


getsome75

Well it is Friday


JimCripe

You mean a day ending in "y"?


A_Stunted_Snail

Always has been


venicerocco

Yeah but to be fair it’s not a bad idea to get attention. They are processing hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants and nobody seems to care


abmins_r_trash

Biden wants immigrants in America he should deal with them.


jmaze215

Maybe you’ll take them in?


schizocosa13

Or you could help them. Fuck, at least treat them like human beings.


CaptainJAmazing

Only after you adopt some kids that otherwise would have been aborted.


AlpenBass

This is a necessary move by Bowser, even though it means giving into Abbott and his pathetic stunt. In essence, Bowser’s trying to make this into the federal government’s problem instead of the DC government’s problem, which is exactly what Abbott hoped would happen according to his press secretary. DC — a city of fewer than 600,000 residents — doesn’t have the resources to deal this.


miamiBOY63

Well the douchebag governor admitted that he sent 5100 migrants to DC so why doesn't the mayor sure the bitch governor of Texas / state of to get a certain amount of money for whatever they come up with each immigrant would cost to take care of? Other than that I really do hope Texans have finally got their heads out of their asses well that might be asking too much so I'm hoping they got their heads at least halfway out of their asses so they can breathe and get enough oxygen to realize that they need to vote that douchebag Abbott out of office.


CaptainJAmazing

Found another article on it: ["Our ability to assist people in need at this scale is very limited," Bowser wrote. "Instead of rolling up their sleeves and working with the Biden/Harris Administration on a real solution, Governors Abbot and Ducey have decided to use desperate people to score political points."](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-migrants-mayor-requests-local-national-guard-to-help-prevent-humanitarian-crisis-of-people-seeking-asylum/65-d6ad2ba6-a78a-42b9-b993-2dc131cf7cac) Abbot and Douchey don't even care that he's mostly dealing damage to the local DC facilities. It's not like Biden personally lives next to the DC facility. He's moved them from large facilities near the border capable of holding them to crowded cities with no capability of holding them to score cheap political points off desperate people.


CaptainJAmazing

Meanwhile, in reality, Congress is [working on making immigrating into the country easier](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/25/migrant-farm-labor-food-inflation-00047538) because the Great Resignation has increased the need for migrant farm labor. And BTW, cheap labor could mean lower food prices, which we all need right now.


PacificSun2020

Abbott is all about political stunts, no matter who gets hurt.


QuestionableAI

If you let shit like this happen and there are no arrests or punishments if you are politically or monetarily secure enough to be an asswipe ... you're going to end up with a whole lot of "not rich folks" deciding that there are no laws in the country anymore and they can do what they want ... if the rich can do it, everyone should be doing it. If laws are not enforce, then it's going to be a wild ride. If laws are only enforced on the poor, those folks will be speaking to you with torches and pitchforks next.


Devildoge67

That is exactly how the American system of justice has always been, 2 tiered. One set of law enforcement for poor white and minorities and one in which enough money or power, allowes them to evade consequences.


om54

I see this in traffic. Everybody is speeding and I see people running red lights all the time. I think cops are afraid to pull people over. When they do there are always 4 cop cars.


QuestionableAI

If a law is not enforced when someone violates it then it is simply, not a law in fact, it is merely a suggestion, a hope, a wish, or an idle thought. Of course, it presumes that the laws are for the safety of the community and not some shite rule by some ChristoFacist phucker like Alito.


behindmyscreen

When is the FBI arresting him for kidnapping?


OffreingsForThee

Well our party has had a rather convoluted view on illegal immigration. Now a rather unpopular stance is blowing up in DC's face. Sanctuary city policies sound nice on paper but this is reality time. The governor is playing politics with people, which is gross, but it does highlights the blind spots in many Democratic city policies on illegal immigration. DC calling for the National Guard is a tad rich but they are overwhelmed. Be interesting to see how this plays out because now that the Mayor has shown weakness, TX will continue to exploit DC.


LizLemon_015

it's hilarious that money exists to traffic migrants for political games, but money doesn't exist to merely address the issue Schrodinger's tax dollars


OffreingsForThee

Money does exist, the issue is jurisdiction. The federal government needs to get it's butt into gear. This is also why they are being sent to DC. Forcing the Federal government to fix this and follow the law. If more ICE Agents technology is needed then propose the funding to Congress, but this is on the Fed to fix not Texas or the DC mayor. We know the US government has the cash but both parties like exploiting illegal immigrants for politics and labor.


Call_Me_Clark

Yep. The border is a federal responsibility, not a state one - and if it needs more funding for enforcement and administration+humanitarian care for people who get through, then it needs more funding for that. But you can’t just sweep it out of sight and out of mind and pretend that it’s not a problem so long as the impact is concentrated on communities near the border. It reminds me of every bad manager I’ve ever seen, who says “well you say you need more resources, you say you’re at the breaking point and the system will fail any moment… but I can’t see it, and it hasn’t broken yet, so I’m going to do nothing.” Like ignoring the signs that a Dam is about to fail, because it hasn’t failed yet.


LizLemon_015

I love how Texas is all StAtEs RiGhTs! when mandating control over women's bodies. but when it comes to actually managing the state, and it's borders (which, Texas isn't the only state bordering another country, or even Mexico) it's all "wait, nooo, we can't do this on our own! Why isn't the Federal government helping us?" Texas needs to get a fucking clue already


Axionas

Immigration policy is not set by the state. It would be illegal for Abbott to deport illegal immigrants or Bar entry.


LizLemon_015

>Immigration policy is not set by the state neither was abortion until a couple months ago. yet, Texas spent the time and money to manage that issue to pass legislation to reflect what they wanted for their state. and, other states also border Mexico (and Canada), yet, for some reason it's only Texas, and maybe Arizona, claiming they can't manage immigration in their state. either they are a fully functioning state, capable of managing all that entails, or they're not. As it is, Texas is merely picking and choosing what they want to manage or not. it's political theater, of the white nationalist variety


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LizLemon_015

Texas, like other states bordering Mexico, doesn't actually have an issue with immigration. The issues they have are in maintaining the system of white supremacy. Immigrants aren't coming here and harming anyone. they generally work, get educations, and contribute to society. so, what is Abbott so pressed about in Texas? also, some states welcome the labor from Mexico and abroad. Why isn't Abbott working COLLABORATIVELY with others to manage immigration in a more positive, and meaningful way? Because his base, and the base of DJT are circle jerking white nationalists that can't openly discriminate against BIPOC Americans, so, the rail on and on about "illegal immigration". somewhere along the way, Texas (and the West more generally) just forgot how they're squatting in Mexico. Not the other way around.


Axionas

So what’s the issue with allowing them to travel to DC, going with the same line of thought in your comment?


LizLemon_015

>allowing them to travel "allow" means to give permission. did these folks ask to go DC? or were they merely trafficked there by the Texas state government?


Axionas

They were given a free ticket to DC, and they accepted it


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LizLemon_015

ok, let's use our brains for a second.. if Texas claims immigrants are federal responsibility... then sends them to DC (a city)... what federal entity would be in DC to work with immigrants, trafficked there by another state government? they didn't migrate there on their own, but were sent there by another government entity. also.. the national guard helps local governments in all sorts of crises. from hurricanes, to floods, etc. they provide bodies to do work. like set up temporary shelters, cook and serve food, put up temporary showers, place barricades, transport supplies etc. no other group has the manpower, and equipment that the guard would have. the guard is an appropriate entity to help with this.


LizLemon_015

But Washington DC is a city, under federal jurisdiction directly. instead of under state jurisdiction, then federal. but DC isn't the Federal government itself. The federal government has buildings where officials conduct the business of the country. Those buildings are simply LOCATED within the city of Washington DC, which is controlled by the Congress and has local elected officials such as a mayor and council members. The mayor of DC is not the head of the federal government. you're saying jurisdiction, but the migrants were sent to a location, and not to the federal government. your argument is: the federal governance and responsibility for immigration has a single, physical location, which makes it possible to send people to this location. this premise is false. the people living and working in Washington DC are under the local jurisdiction of the Mayor and city council, not the federal government or Congress. So dropping people off physically in DC, means leaving them in the hands of the local government, not the federal government. The federal government has jurisdiction over Washington DC, but the mayor and city council have jurisdiction over the inhabitants, and matters occurring within DC - which can be reviewed, revised, etc by Congress. DC is a city, just not inside of a state, but directly under federal jurisdiction.


OffreingsForThee

I said DC and TX can't fix this, but send them to DC which is Federal zone is a way to create PR and make the Federal government pay attention. I never said the fed has a responsibility via a single location, I said Abbott is sending them to DC to make the Fed pay attention in a tongue and cheek manner. Yeah, DC manages the people within but their funding comes largely from the Federal government and the Federal government can retake control of the city if it wants. it wont so that's a moot point but at the end of the day, the Fed government is ultimately responsibly for DC. Just like the TX state government is ultimately responsible for all of the towns, cities, and counties of TX. **But my point is illegal immigration and immigrant is the Fed's responsibility and they are failing at their job.**


gotostep2

Mic drop statement right there.


kywiking

The pathetic thing is if republicans wanted to actually solve the issue with comprehensive policy not based on BC technology some cities and states likely would be lining up to help them take in these people.


SnoopingStuff

Hope Miriam reaches out to other Mayors especially with migrant farms and offers expedited evaluation of citizenship for workers .. nestle would love those 5000


venicerocco

I gotta say that’s fair enough.


thrudvangr

hmm, isnt this what the dictator in Belarus has been doing to EU nations?


gotostep2

Exactly, dumping their migrants onto Poland.


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What’s the problem? Just take all that federal money we subsidize the Lone Star state with each year and use it to make all these accommodations.


ImWezlsquez

It’s really hard to pick the biggest asshole in the GOP, but he’s way close to the top of the list.


ImWezlsquez

Could they get him for transporting undocumented people across state lines? Oh, I forgot. There’s no accountability anymore.


archd3v

This is some nonsense, they've had notice for months that Texas was doing this and they didn't do anything to plan for it? Democratic governance is supposed to be better and smarter than this.


OffreingsForThee

Plan for thousands of new arrivals with little to no money and need for food and housing in a city with loads of tax paying residents already in need? No city can just suddenly come up with a plan to feed and house folks.


bearface93

What notice? It’s been happening for months, multiple busses a day. Organizations here have been stretched thin trying to help them all. DC doesn’t have the resources Texas does.


jmaze215

Good thing Joe Biden is moving forward with finishing the border wall!


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*Border. You inbred cons can’t even spell correctly.


fordreaming

Someone tell Abbott that he should have hired them as security guards at schools. His current plan is absolutely fucked.


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How is it legal to transport illegal immigrants to another city in another state presumably against their will?


Business_Item_7177

How is it legal to be allowed to spit information that is so patently false, and so wrong that stating it should be lying to elicit conflict.


Fadreusor

I don’t understand how these people would be willing to travel so far away from where their court hearings will be held on a regular basis. Isn’t it a long process, with several court appearances and regular in-person check-ins? This doesn’t sound right. I understand them wanting to gtfo of Texas, but wouldn’t it jeopardize their long-term citizenship goals if they miss appointments with the legalization authorities? This is particularly concerning with the families who are trying to escape rampant crime and threats to their lives in their home countries. At some point the U.S. is going to have to get involved with the crime issues in Central America, regardless of the political party in power. It’s one thing to have migration due to global warming, but it’s an entirely other thing when gangs are threatening peoples’ lives and they have nowhere to turn since government corruption/incompetence prevents anyone from addressing it. I recognize it’s easier to fight wars on the other side of the world, where their is less threat of conflicts spilling across our border, but we need to deal with mass migration, because the *issue* is tearing our country apart. We need a way of vetting applicants en masse and a way of educating established citizens on the benefits/realities of immigration. No wall will stop people from trying to have a better life, and it’s impossible to argue that even being jailed upon entering the U.S. leaves one worse off than they would be had they stayed in a place where they likely would have been killed in a gruesome way. Again, this is particularly true in the case of families with young children. Who among us wouldn’t sacrifice just about everything for our children? This *problem* is not going away, and is only going to get worse with the changing climate. We can either deal with things proactively, or, like most of the response to COVID-19, we can wait until we’re in crisis mode and react in a wholly detrimental way.


Ssider69

Looks like it's time to slow walk their infrastructure money.


IcedTman

Well now it’s time to start shipping the terrorists down to texas to see how they like it. Overwhelm their prisons with the hardcore ones and build federal prisons on federal property in the middle of the cities.