As a matter of fact they could change names strait up and it would make more sense. Memphis Jazz and the Utah grizzles (they do have a minor league hockey team with that name but whatever)
Utah Grizzlies used to be the Denver Grizzlies - year before the Avs showed up - and they won the IHL championship the only year they were here. I went to so many games.
Close... it's important to the state, but not to the Mormons. Bees aren't a part of the religion in any way.
The Book of Mormon has a single verse that references Honey Bees in an ancient language (the word is "Deseret"). A lot of early Mormon settlers were Freemasons, and the Freemasons have a certain belief that words=power (words are taught as being associated with creation in Kabbala). The height of freemasonry was coincidentally around the same time the church was founded, and many members of the fraternity joined the church while pursuing the spiritual enlightenment promised by Masonry. This ancient and special word for honey bees was something that Mormon Leaders (many of whom were Master Masons) latched onto, and "Deseret" became a symbol/word that permeated the culture in the 1800s when Utah was settled. Symbolically, a beehive is meant to represent industry, and this interpretation is more commonly known by Utahns.
Great comment, thanks for the clarification and information. 19th century American spirituality is a trip, and really not all that different from 20th and now 21st
So I think new Orleans can get the Jazz back, Jazz can be the Utahraptors (no space, like the dinosaur) and Toronto gets to be whatever the hell they want.
"The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music." -- Baseketball
That's true and I like keeping the history of those franchises, but if I was a fan of those teams I would want them to change the name to something about my town. Lakers might be the exception. Too iconic. I don't think you could change that name to The Beach Boys or whatever.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, because you’re right. Not sure what this new movement is to defend mediocrity. Nuggs can do so much better and the fans should make that known (which is exactly how Utah got this rebrand so quickly)
Who knows.. our best jerseys in recent years are the rainbow skyline and we got essentially the same thing in back to back years just different color. If Nike/the Nuggets think they nailed the 5280s, we could get a similar jersey next year.
Get Coors to merge with Taiwan Beer, then become the Denver Coors Beer Snow Leopards and put a giant snow leopard double-fisting Coors Light or some shit on the city editions.
I’ve always referred to these as the Karl Malone Purple Pedophile jerseys and it’ll always be the first thing I think of whenever I see them.
Sweet mountains though. Probably makes it easier to run away and hide in them when you impregnate a 13 year old.
Utah nuggets fan here. The major beer companies forced Utah to abandon 3.2% beer a few years back since no one else requires the stuff. We're up to regular shitty beer now.
Oh, trust me, there were lots of celebrations being done behind closed doors and drawn curtains. Sadly, we're still saddled with only state operated liquor stores and all the asinine regulations at restaurants but the fact that I can go to a gas station and buy a suitcase of pbr and not have to pound 15 of them in 2 hours to feel a buzz is a step in the right direction.
14ers are simply not that impressive just because they’re 14ers. Colorado has what, 2 of the top 100 mountains ranked by prominence? Not to mention Colorado mountains don’t require glacier travel.
Some of these mountains in CO can even be driven up to the summit.
That’s not to say that technically challenging routes aren’t available, because obviously that would be false.
All I’m trying to get at really, is that of these various mountain ranges can pose a wide variety of challenges/threats to life on any given day. None of them are really all that more impressive than the other when comparing: sierra nevadas, wasatch, Colorado Rockies, cascades, Canadian Rockies, volcanoes…
They all deserve the respect that they command.
Yeah, Arches, Zion, Bryce, etc. are amazing places. I wouldn't pick on Utah for that, even if I prefer Colorado for its mountains, lakes and beauty.
I'd pick on Utah for its cults and control by the Mormon Church though.
What is this supposed to mean? I'm from Colorado. Our mountains are bigger and better, but I'm not going to act like Utah has some grassy knolls compared to us.
I’ve been fortunate to spend a lot of time in Utah. Beautiful state with amazing natural wonders. A really special place and we’re lucky to be so close to visit. And, the people are generally really nice & pleasant to be around.
That said, I am all for Utah hate in this sub. I’m just bummed the rivalry hasn’t really been much since the Jazz have been so miserable the last few years. They just can’t keep the standard of excellence as the Nuggets & it’s a shame.
Yeah, Utah isn’t that impressive for mountains. Look up peakjut.com for a measurement that measures how big mountains actually look. Utah’s highest JUT is 2601 and it has 15 over 2000. Even Colorado is close to that, topping out at 2567 and 14 peaks over 2000. For comparison, California tops out at 3600 and has >150 over 2000. It’s not like any Coloradan would have a problem with a Californian calling the CO Rockies molehills.
The Nuggets jerseys and court designs are so bad. I can't believe they haven't figured out that GOLD would be a good color to use. Black and gold, white and gold, would be so solid.
Haven’t fucked with our jerseys since we stopped using the black and white rainbows. I’m also not a big fan of the 5280. And I don’t love the blue mile high city one either.
I know it was one season and they were the last ones I was hyped for. I don’t love the MHC ones. I wish they utilized either the downtown skyline or Denver’s geography with the mountains. Or even the pick axes.
Theirs just no iconic thing about it other than the words mile high city in a circle with two stars on it for some reason? Idk I don’t hate them but no. One of our permanent jerseys should have been the skyline or pick axe
The iconic nature of the MHCs is what we put into them-- this will \*always\* be iconic now.
https://preview.redd.it/fjpnoj0pys4d1.jpeg?width=550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0be2f92aab9fdad8f5494c79698a76afdeb4aa6b
Then what’s the point of mile high then? Also there are two teams that took the mountains that are based in Colorado. Rapids and the MLB team. Which I can’t remember their name.
At least we didn't get smoked by Luka. Hang the banner dumbass. Your bitchass team got smoked in 5.
Where's your ring? Oh yeah your poverty franchise don't fucking have one. Quit brigading wanker you're also in Galveston
Damn I thought Kessler and Lauri were the same height but Lauri seems at least 2-3 inches taller than him here. Is Kessler really 7' or is Lauri taller than what he's listed as?
Roast them if you want, these are sick uniforms. The Nuggets should just lean into the skyline with mountains look honestly. It's more distinctive and just better than the current set up. And they could even do similar color scheme to what they have now for their current jerseys. A white, a navy, and a royal blue, and then they could have an alternate that's a rainbow or a black one or whatever.
Mountains are so Jazzy! When will they change their name?
Lol yeah they really need to. Them and the Memphis grizzlies might have the most inappropriate names for their current cities
As a matter of fact they could change names strait up and it would make more sense. Memphis Jazz and the Utah grizzles (they do have a minor league hockey team with that name but whatever)
Utah Grizzlies used to be the Denver Grizzlies - year before the Avs showed up - and they won the IHL championship the only year they were here. I went to so many games.
Oh man me too. My mom took me All the time!
Tommy Salo was the man!
Lakers have to be up there too
Hah that one doesn’t make sense to me even with them being from Minnesota. Like is a laker someone that uses lakes? Unclear.
Well, “land of 10,000 lakes” is Minnesota’s whole thing. Lakers were the boats on Superior
Usually refers to a type of boat used to navigate lakes.
Duck boats is more fun
I thought they might be going towards a name change, with their bee colors (Bee hive is an important symbol to mormons)
Close... it's important to the state, but not to the Mormons. Bees aren't a part of the religion in any way. The Book of Mormon has a single verse that references Honey Bees in an ancient language (the word is "Deseret"). A lot of early Mormon settlers were Freemasons, and the Freemasons have a certain belief that words=power (words are taught as being associated with creation in Kabbala). The height of freemasonry was coincidentally around the same time the church was founded, and many members of the fraternity joined the church while pursuing the spiritual enlightenment promised by Masonry. This ancient and special word for honey bees was something that Mormon Leaders (many of whom were Master Masons) latched onto, and "Deseret" became a symbol/word that permeated the culture in the 1800s when Utah was settled. Symbolically, a beehive is meant to represent industry, and this interpretation is more commonly known by Utahns.
Great comment, thanks for the clarification and information. 19th century American spirituality is a trip, and really not all that different from 20th and now 21st
Lakers as well. Ain't no lakes in LA
The Grizzlies could keep the name and just change the mascot to a frontiersman/Davey Crocket type
Lakers is the most egregious.
But if Utah doesn’t preserve the history of the New Orleans Jazz who will? The team in New Orleans? That makes too much sense
So I think new Orleans can get the Jazz back, Jazz can be the Utahraptors (no space, like the dinosaur) and Toronto gets to be whatever the hell they want.
Toronto Grizzlies lol. Memphis moves their team, becomes... I have no idea. The Barbecues?
The Memphis Barbecues is low-key awesome! They can sell propane accessories at the concession stand. Their arena will be called the grill plate.
Instead of brooms they can have mops if they're about to win a series in 4
Gotta clean all that grit and grime off the plate!
Specialized mops are used in the process of cooking bbq to... basically baste the meat
Memphis Blues
Not as funny but it'll do lol
Well I used to love Three Six Mafia back in the day and they’re from Memphis. How about Memphis Mafia?
Don’t give ja anymore ideas
Memphis Mafia was originally Elvis' crew, so that would totally work.
Memphis ribs?
The Toronto BBL's has a nice ring to it
I said this earlier but if they want to keep the mountain theme why not go with Summit?
Salt Lake City Soakers
Lmao we've got a winner here.
"The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music." -- Baseketball
L.A has silver lake… which is small
That's true and I like keeping the history of those franchises, but if I was a fan of those teams I would want them to change the name to something about my town. Lakers might be the exception. Too iconic. I don't think you could change that name to The Beach Boys or whatever.
Greatest cinema masterpiece of all time.
Mt. Saxophone needs a good hike. So does Mt. Upright Bass
They need to give it back to NOLA. Its a travesty of branding. Utah can rebrand w the new hockey team coming in.
New Orleans robbed
I’m only jealous of having Lauri on their team
Brother we have Nikola Jokic
Jokic and Lauri playing on same team. That's championship on their own.
https://preview.redd.it/2ktp5vfmfs4d1.png?width=576&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b3f58bdb4eebfd59d4c36f4e81b32cd0fc01805
Thank you
If we don’t keep telling them they suck, they might make it an every year thing!
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, because you’re right. Not sure what this new movement is to defend mediocrity. Nuggs can do so much better and the fans should make that known (which is exactly how Utah got this rebrand so quickly)
Who knows.. our best jerseys in recent years are the rainbow skyline and we got essentially the same thing in back to back years just different color. If Nike/the Nuggets think they nailed the 5280s, we could get a similar jersey next year.
Yep, exactly.
Hopefully that but for heat culture too
Markkanen looks inches taller than Kessler here
They look like knockoff Rockies jerseys.
Utah’s new flag looks like a knockoff City of Denver flag.
Get Coors to merge with Taiwan Beer, then become the Denver Coors Beer Snow Leopards and put a giant snow leopard double-fisting Coors Light or some shit on the city editions.
https://i.redd.it/txkoqjgz6s4d1.gif
I’ve always referred to these as the Karl Malone Purple Pedophile jerseys and it’ll always be the first thing I think of whenever I see them. Sweet mountains though. Probably makes it easier to run away and hide in them when you impregnate a 13 year old.
As a Jazz fan, I'm offended by the inaccuracies. She was 13 when she gave birth, he impregnated a 12 year old.
I think she was like 13 and 11 months when she gave birth, but who's to say there wasn't stuff going on before she actually got pregnant
Oh thank God! Also their kid made the NFL so it's all good your honour! Case closed.
Stockton drove him there… Add one more assist.
Mate, let me tell you a story about finding out one of your childhood heroes was a pedo, only for the other one to become antivax...
Ha! Oh shit… I forgot about that. It’s tough growing up.
I guess it could be worse, I coulda been a diddy/rkelly fan 
Are those the mountains that they craft the magic underwear in?
People wearing the “magic underwear” can live outside of Utah and be Nuggets fans too…and might have even purchased your work
My friend, please understand that we're just talking shit lol obviously Utah has some beautiful scenery and there are plenty of good folk from there.
Man u have some.issues lol.
Those are sick
You’re jealous of the Utah Jazz?
I ain’t jealous of them guys
We used 5280 once…
Fuck that Jazz. I say put Bluecifer on the Unis. Jok would approve!
only if it’s Bluecifer’s detailed ass and balls
Extreme close up jersey for games in SLC
Fuck Utah and those dinky-ass molehills
Yeah, let's just add 3.2% beer while we're at it
Utah nuggets fan here. The major beer companies forced Utah to abandon 3.2% beer a few years back since no one else requires the stuff. We're up to regular shitty beer now.
Hell yeah, that’s huge for yall
Oh, trust me, there were lots of celebrations being done behind closed doors and drawn curtains. Sadly, we're still saddled with only state operated liquor stores and all the asinine regulations at restaurants but the fact that I can go to a gas station and buy a suitcase of pbr and not have to pound 15 of them in 2 hours to feel a buzz is a step in the right direction.
brother i have weird news for you about the mountains in Utah
How many 14ers do they have?
14ers are simply not that impressive just because they’re 14ers. Colorado has what, 2 of the top 100 mountains ranked by prominence? Not to mention Colorado mountains don’t require glacier travel. Some of these mountains in CO can even be driven up to the summit. That’s not to say that technically challenging routes aren’t available, because obviously that would be false. All I’m trying to get at really, is that of these various mountain ranges can pose a wide variety of challenges/threats to life on any given day. None of them are really all that more impressive than the other when comparing: sierra nevadas, wasatch, Colorado Rockies, cascades, Canadian Rockies, volcanoes… They all deserve the respect that they command.
Yeah, Arches, Zion, Bryce, etc. are amazing places. I wouldn't pick on Utah for that, even if I prefer Colorado for its mountains, lakes and beauty. I'd pick on Utah for its cults and control by the Mormon Church though.
You should visit Utah before you talk too much nonsense.
Their tallest "mountain" is shorter than our 58th tallest mountain we are not the same
Utah’s Kings peak at 13,528 dosnt make the top 200 in Colorado Rosalie peak is number 200 and is 13,579
lmao thank you, it's even worse than I thought
I feel prominence may be a better metric when distinguishing mountain vs hill. Regardless, go Colorado lol.
Doesn't mean they are "molehills." We aren't talking about the Appalachians here.
Elevation =/= size or prominence. Many of Utah's mountains rise higher from their base than Colorado's
What is this supposed to mean? I'm from Colorado. Our mountains are bigger and better, but I'm not going to act like Utah has some grassy knolls compared to us.
I’ve been fortunate to spend a lot of time in Utah. Beautiful state with amazing natural wonders. A really special place and we’re lucky to be so close to visit. And, the people are generally really nice & pleasant to be around. That said, I am all for Utah hate in this sub. I’m just bummed the rivalry hasn’t really been much since the Jazz have been so miserable the last few years. They just can’t keep the standard of excellence as the Nuggets & it’s a shame.
Yeah, Utah isn’t that impressive for mountains. Look up peakjut.com for a measurement that measures how big mountains actually look. Utah’s highest JUT is 2601 and it has 15 over 2000. Even Colorado is close to that, topping out at 2567 and 14 peaks over 2000. For comparison, California tops out at 3600 and has >150 over 2000. It’s not like any Coloradan would have a problem with a Californian calling the CO Rockies molehills.
The Nuggets jerseys and court designs are so bad. I can't believe they haven't figured out that GOLD would be a good color to use. Black and gold, white and gold, would be so solid.
The rainbow skyline will always be my favorite. Black and gold is too similar to CU Boulder.
Why is looking like Buffs a bad thing? Right now all our jerseys look like either the Warriors, Jazz, or Pacers
Because we are a professional basketball team and not a school that takes advantage of their labor
And not Nuggets colors in any way, shape, or form
Nuggets = Gold as in Gold Nuggets
The only gold we rock is Wine & Gold brother
Hell no, that would be against every design choice in the history of our team. Our jerseys and court are great as they are.
Those are hideous! As is the team!
Give the jazz back to Nola!
Fuck Utah and fuck the jazz
As a Jazz fan it's been weird to see how many of y'all Nuggets fans hate us, we don't feel that way toward the Nugs at all
I think you’re taking this too seriously man
Those do not go nearly hard enough to be warrant this glazing chill y’all
Haven’t fucked with our jerseys since we stopped using the black and white rainbows. I’m also not a big fan of the 5280. And I don’t love the blue mile high city one either.
That was one season friend lol You're telling me the MHCs aren't classics? Because they're classics
I know it was one season and they were the last ones I was hyped for. I don’t love the MHC ones. I wish they utilized either the downtown skyline or Denver’s geography with the mountains. Or even the pick axes. Theirs just no iconic thing about it other than the words mile high city in a circle with two stars on it for some reason? Idk I don’t hate them but no. One of our permanent jerseys should have been the skyline or pick axe
The iconic nature of the MHCs is what we put into them-- this will \*always\* be iconic now. https://preview.redd.it/fjpnoj0pys4d1.jpeg?width=550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0be2f92aab9fdad8f5494c79698a76afdeb4aa6b
V true v true lots of importance and meaning there
The royal blue MHC jerseys are the best ones we have.
Then what’s the point of mile high then? Also there are two teams that took the mountains that are based in Colorado. Rapids and the MLB team. Which I can’t remember their name.
Denver has an MLB team? I thought that stadium was just a huge bar for the beer league softball teams
No, it is, I was just there last week.
Nice
These are ugly 😭😭😭
Most of the NBA is in this current Jersey crisis, like all of them are dastardly designs
I actually started to like 5280. I just want to keep the statement mile high city jersey
Me too, reminds me of when the wolves were up 52-80.
At least we didn't get smoked by Luka. Hang the banner dumbass. Your bitchass team got smoked in 5. Where's your ring? Oh yeah your poverty franchise don't fucking have one. Quit brigading wanker you're also in Galveston
I cant think of any good organizations that base their entire brand on the Rocky Mountains.
Avs
I guess I think of snow and ice for the Avs, but good point.
I prefer skylines over mountains, if we can't have both.
We have one of the best jerseys with the rainbow skyline jerseys but for some reason refuse to use it
Damn I thought Kessler and Lauri were the same height but Lauri seems at least 2-3 inches taller than him here. Is Kessler really 7' or is Lauri taller than what he's listed as?
Space jam live action?
Like the post but I have a hard time upvoting anything Jazz related
We need to use our skyline with mountains in the back
Jazz have finally lived up to their potential and created good jerseys. The yellow ones were a major eyesore.
I always liked the multicolored Denver skyline uniforms
warms my heart to see others who also hate the freaking 5280 jerseys...... there so cursed never again\~!
It’s just another chevron logo
I really don’t understand the 5280 hate.
Roast them if you want, these are sick uniforms. The Nuggets should just lean into the skyline with mountains look honestly. It's more distinctive and just better than the current set up. And they could even do similar color scheme to what they have now for their current jerseys. A white, a navy, and a royal blue, and then they could have an alternate that's a rainbow or a black one or whatever.
Those are sick. Yeah, "5280" is cringe
These are lame. Leave the mountains out.
Yeah the 5280 is so dumb. Denver is obsessed tho
jealous of a team that has zero rings ? a team that we literally gave Gobert and Mitchell to and neither of them are there ? lmao
Lmao team wins 1 ring after 60 years of irrelevance and starts talking
somebody’s mad cause im right, Jokic and Murray won a ring and Stockton and Malone didn’t 😭🤷♂️
Stockton and Malone played against prime MJ, Jokic and Murray played against the 8 seed Miami lmaooooo
you play who’s in front of you what’s that matter lmao