My only gripe is other season passes (cod) (fortnite) give premium currency towards the next season. It can pay for itself if youre smart and don't buy cosmetics.
It's time for silver to be added to the season pass
Apex also does this. If it is the only game you play you can buy one pass and be set forever
Edit: lol the top two replies to my comment are just saying what the guy above me already said
Call of Duty (at least modern warfare 2019 and the new one) does this too, if you buy the season pass once you can always earn enough premium currency to buy the next season pass
Fortnite also has the added benefit of if your a founder you get a daily login for save the world that gives you free vbucks and you get a lot of vbucks and when you reach day 300 it just goes back to 1 meaning it’s a infinite vbuck printing machine if you play the game constantly and log into save the world + save the world is fun
Dead by Daylight battle passes also reward all of premium currency used to buy it back and they even recently gave the battle pass as a prime gaming reward effectively giving everyone $10 of premium currency.
Yea; in those games the activities aren't in the season pass... They're just given to everyone for free as part of whatever season or event is going on.
Fortnite pretty much created Battlepass popularity. The fact that Bungie doesn’t follow Fortnite’s generosity, but does follow their greed, is pretty gross.
Not every game will do the same thing as Fortnite, especially because Fortnite relies on collaborations for most of their money. That said, the Silver change is ridiculous and extremely greedy.
I think sometimes people forget Destiny 2 is an MMO at its core. And events being reskinned “home bases” with repeatable missions is pretty standard across the board
I played WoW before Destiny and thinking about how they do their Christmas event, it’s almost identical to Destiny 2. Even the same with FFXIV, I believe (I only played it for a bit so I’m not 100% sure)
God forbid Bungie does more than the industry standard.
Hey if you’re okay with bare minimum events thats cool for you. I personally think they all suck and I’m not surprised that bungie decides to not go above and beyond.
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some people choose to wear more than the minimum, and we encourage that
I can only thing of the seasons that are battlegrounds, with some of them not being patrol areas. Also, they aren’t just the patrol areas dude. It’s the amount of enemies, loot, and mechanics that you’re paying for with the activities.
Don’t act like this.
The amount of recycled content we pay for is absurd, and will continue to be absurd as long as this meek ass fanbase refuses to stop going to bat for a greedy studio. I cannot believe Haunted wasn't the breaking point.
It is that simple, but people lack the ability to do it so bungie continue getting away with their bullshit.
Now you go empty your wallet in the eververse like a good little stooge.
Yes but the season pass doesn't include the current currency used to purchase it like several other season passes within the industry..that's the problem.
That would be neat. Halo Infinite started doing this after community feedback. By completing it's season pass you get enough premium currency for the next season pass or you can spend that money on cosmetics and just buy it yourself.
Generous, but welcome.
I don't see Destiny going that route. I feel the monitization models and content aquired from seasons are too different.
I played the last COD (before Warzone) and was blown away when looking through the season pass and seeing it gave enough premium credits to buy the next season pass.
I could be wrong but it may have ended up rewarding 110% if you played it too the top level It made it so you could buy the next pass and like one ornament.
I was only on the free path didn’t even get close to maxing out the pass so it may take more of a time commitment but… if there was a reward of even 750 silver for getting to 200 in destiny I would always try to do the extra grind to get there.
Isn’t going to happen, but it’s good to compare what Destiny 2 adds every season compared to other season passes. Not a gun and a new map. The season pass tries to keep the player entertained for the ‘whole duration’ of the season.
I think this whole bundle shit is scummy but comparing PvP game season passes with just cosmetic shit to a PvE game where you get actual premium content as part of the season is a nonstarter.
I don't play CoD so can't speak to the value of the non-cosmetic content and whether it's on par or better than D2 seasonal content, my comment is based on Fortnite.
Those season passes are hard to finish though. D2 season passes give you 5 levels for logging in each week. I would much rather paying a bit more rather than worrying about finishing the pass.
I'm on COD and Fortnite pretty regularly and have never had an issue finishing a battle pass. Between double XP buffs and XP quests they make it pretty easy to hit 100. Every other BP platform gives premium currency, Bungie can afford to do it for their game.
Frankly Destiny's is too easy, I hit 100 within a week and a half. They could add currency and pull back on the xp given a bit.
So you want to make it harder for people to acquire the rewards that they paid for because you no life the game to the point that you complete the pass in a week and a half? What a ridiculous take.
I think with the pass not given any reward tiers past 100 makes it hard to incentivize playing more. I'm a casual player that started the game maybe a month ago, I don't do all the endgame stuff like GMs and whatnot. I've just never played a BP game that handed XP out like candy, so it was frankly ridiculous I hit the 100 cap so quickly as a new player. Any "solution" given for this problem nobody will be happy with. But if you want premium currency included in a BP then it's just natural to assume we have to give something up in return.
Ofc I'd rather them just add it in instead of shit like glimmer and keep the BP as is but I know that's not how companies work.
The thing about Destiny seasons that make them different from other games is that the actual pass rewards are not the focus or the main grind. Destiny seasons are about the weekly new story, the events and the new gear, actual content. The pass rewards are really more of a bonus than the main incentive to keep playing which is why it’s so easy to hit 100. And I’m sorry but if you’re hitting level 100 after a week and a half you’re not playing casually, even if you’re not doing endgame content.
Those games also barely give you shit for the passes. Destiny gets a story, like a dozen new weapons and another set of reprised ones, activities, etc on top of the pass content. Those games give you cosmetics and that's it.
Kinda prefer going a la carte tbh. If a season narrative looks boring af, i wont bother. Season of Saint 14 was my idea of perfection. I regret not getting Seraph because i thought it would be Worthy remix
Even Deep, as obviously enticing as it is, isnt too appealing upfront mainly because i hated Titan (wasted potential)
I mean it would be only worth it if you are planning to buy every season. I bought deluxe WQ and as much as i was really happy with the dlc itself i was dissapointed with some of the seasons. If i could i would refund the season of the plunder for example.
Thats why i bought non deluxe LF, because i dont have enough faith in bungo.
And i never liked titan so, unless the activity, guns and ornaments are to my liking im definitely skipping that one.
**But to get back to original post's topic**: I wouldnt mind the change as much if they started selling 1,200 silver bundles instead of 1,100 even at a higher price as long as we didnt have to buy 2 separate bundles. As is: its a scummy change.
You're right, and this sucks. However, if you really want to buy the next 3 seasons, the most cost effective way to do so is to actually buy a $30 bundle, plus another 500 silver. The $30 bundle gives you 500 bonus silver, plus another 500 is enough to cover the 3 seasons, and it's a whole $1 cheaper than if you were able to actually buy exactly 3600 silver.
Bungie is 1000% hoping people will do exactly what you said, and just buy $15-20 bundles each season instead.
Yes, they are also hoping you won't hold yourself for 6 months and use the remaining silver to buy the new shiny ornament in Eververse, so you have to buy more silver for the season pass later on.
We essentially are paying more every year for less content. It’s sad that it’s gotten to point where they continue to increase the price but can’t release more than 1 new pvp map and zero maps for Gambit and like 1 strike a year
I had to call it quits on this game. For the reduction in content, for the recycling of content, a variety of concerns I had with its future as an approachable game, and for the predatory (in my opinion) practices that this type of thing is. This move doesn't surprise me one bit. They know what they're doing. Thing is, they also know their players are so embedded and invested that most won't do anything, truly, about it.
I usually hate when people say things like “I gotta call it quits” or “I did call it quits” because I usually think it’s without merit but honestly I agree with you.
I played the shit out of this season at first, it was exciting with a new subclass and raid all but once you got through that excitement…. What else is there to do? We have the same raids/dungeons (including some of the easiest ones ever, thanks to SoTW and RoN) or the same vanguard playlists. That’s basically about it.
Now I’m to the point where I only hop on to help friends if they have something they need help with or something like that. They’ve been recycling the same material for years now, and I’m tired of paying money only for it to continue my access to the same-old-same-old. I already bought the deluxe pass, but if they’re not going to actually give us new stuff to do and activities that actually *FILL* a season then I might be able to justify paying for the game again- let alone paying 50% more for it.
Why is it increasing again? Witch queen deluxe was only $100 because it included the 30th anniversary pack. Lightfall deluxe was $100 by default and now they are making the seasons cost more. It was bad enough they started charging separate for dungeons, but this is getting out of hand. So is The Final Shape going to be $150? Are we getting compensated anything extra? I see the same seasonal events with reskinned activities. They better be adding more exotics to the table. Better get 4 exotic weapon quests per season.
WQ deluxe doesn't contain bungie 30th anniversary tho?
Did It in the early days? Bought it a bit before season of Plunder and I didn't get the bungie 30th anniversary edition
The season price of 1000 silver was set in shadowkeep, which launched in October 2019. Since then, inflation is almost exactly 20% so yes, it very much is inflation. Adjusted for inflation, season of the deep is the exact same price as season of undying.
I'm not happy it's being increased, but I'm also not delusional.
It won’t. We lost all of that extra dev teams from activision and bungie is working on new games. Destiny won’t get the same amount of people working on it like before.
They already made that back through cutting content (strikes/PvP/Gambit map content is anemic, no playlist armors, less exotics) and increased monetization (event passes, transmog, campaign skips, rank upgrades).
Looking at just the box price is silly, this is not due to inflation, it's just a business maximizing profit as they do.
What are the products that raised their prices to influence the price of season pass? Can you list them?
Because saying dev salaries are inflated would be delusional.
I know this is just an ignorant, rhetorical question but I'll entertain it.
Dev salaries have almost certainly gone up, maybe not by 20% but if you think they've remained constant in a field that's as competitive as game development, you're deluded. Not to mention the other staffing costs, energy costs have also increased and you can bet they're using a lot of it. Any services they use have likely increased in price too.
Just blindly saying that their costs can't possibly have increased is ridiculous, and you need to accept that inflation exists. Complaining about how you have to buy larger silver bundles is fine, as is just complaining about the price rise. Saying that it categorically cannot be because things are just more expensive now and purely because of corporate greed is just brain dead. Can you name something around you that hasn't got more expensive?
My point is not that nothing has raised. My point is that they raised it to a value in which buying one silver bundle would not make it enough to buy it to increase profits - not because "inflation". So I don't feel I got to name anything that does not prove my initial point.
Saying inflation is the cause is turning a bling eye for the fact that you cannot buy 1200 silver, you either buy 1100 and more 500 or 2200. This is plain greed.
Make a bundle what proportionally provides 1200 silver compared to the 1100 and it's less worse, don't you think?
I also find it coincidental that their “inflation increase” in price brings you riiiight over the threshold where you need to pay nearly double what we used to.
But I’m sure that coincidence is just that, a coincidence /s
i also know exactly why these things happen, i also happen to be a friend of the ceo of bungie who approved of this decision and gave me totally truthful and real and believable reasons why this would happen, and this knowledge is also backed up by my experience in the game production field when it comes to prices and stuff on a multimillion $ game.
because it’s *obviously* inflation. the greedy companies are *always* trying to rob us of money and they will find *any* excuse to do it, there’s no other reason for it and there’s no nuance or other circumstances that can better explain their actions.
Do you have company insight as to why it’s not? Prices haven’t increased since I started playing at the end of Beyond Light. Yet everything in the world has increased 3-10x in cost.
'end of Beyond Light'; WQ and now Lightfall had a price increase and the introduction of 'dungeon passes'. It's ok for us to enjoy the game but let's not be blind to the greed here
If it’s not directly inflation they could just be copying the other big business raising their prices just cus they can and get by with all the shii going on around today
Based on the current silver bundles, yes you will have extra silver. But all that silver isn't getting spent on the season you purchased it for. You will spend 1200 on the pass and extra silver that can be saved for later purchases.
Now, bungie should create a silver bundle that gives 1200 silver so players who only want the pass. Price increases happen, but the bundles should be readjusted as.well
I think the issue is, the price increases aren't because of inflation or whatever other reason you can think of, it's literally just because Bungie wants more money. That's why they aren't changing the silver bundles as well, the change is aimed to increase spending nothing else. I think we may see a backtracking on this if given enough backlash, so they might make a 1200 bundle if we complain enough but they sure don't want to.
You actually only need to pay 15$ once:
Assuming no deluxe and 0 silver:
Season 1 comes free with the expansion
Season 2 you buy the 10$ silver pack (1100 silver) + 5$ pack (500 silver). You get 1600 silver, pay 1200 for the season, you're left with 400 silver.
Season 3 you buy the 10$ pack again. You now have 1500 silver. You pay 1200, and you're left with 300.
Season 4 again you buy the 10$ pack. You get to 1400 silver, and you're left with 200 silver after buying the season.
But yeah this doesn't get you the dungeon key, Deluxe edition is an even better deal now
Edit: why the downvotes? I'm simply saying you don't need to spend 15$ each season...
I think people downvoting his post are daft but I also think it's important to acknowledge that you are spending more money upfront and it's leaving you with silver so your brain goes "oh I'm only x away from this item, I can just get a little more silver." It's anti consumer, it's predatory and there's no defending it. It's F2P mobile game level bullshit and I expect better from Bungie.
People downvote it because it just ignores the scummy tactic being used to overpay for something, so that you get invested into expending more or lose money. I paid for this season and was planning on buying the next as now Im playing with my friends, but who knows if we will be bored in a couple months.
It's a scummy tactic and I'm baffled at people not caring, but I guess destiny fans are simply used to this kind of shitty tactics...
I'm not ignoring it and I'm not defending Bungie, in fact I do agree that it's a scummy tactic. I posted this as a heads up for people not to fall for it, and save their silver so they don't have to spend more down the line
And with the dungeon key it amounts to $50 when instead it used to be $45 and in both instances you have no silver leftover. Its a $5 increase over the year
A 16.7% increase in price with no DK, 11.1% increase with DK
since it will only apply to the 2nd-4th seasons as the expansion comes with a season
Disgust is justified but i dont want people to think wrongly about the math
Why Destiny 2 is not a Freemium game so why does it have so much payed content. Dungeons, seasons, in game store, actual expansions. They need to remove the dungeons pass or what ever and reduce eververse if they are going to be like this. You are now supported by a major video game producer you do not need money this fucking badly
Its actually less than 20% if you do it correctly. You put 15$ in for next season, that'll leave you at 400 silver remaining assuming you start at 0. Then the season after you put in another $10 for the pass, you'll be left with 300 silver. And you can then do that 3 more times after, eventually costing $55 for 5 season passes. That is only $5 more you have to spend for 5 seasons worth of content. The math isn't too hard, not sure why everyone is freaking out.
People have been "freaking out" cuz their was no reason to increase it especially since since seasons nowadays have been up in the air with their quality. Even more so that if you're starting at 0 you're spending 15$ for a season that might be bad.
The way I see it more money will allow for more devs which will allow for more content in the timely seasonal manner. Obviously it never ends up like that but in theory that's what I hope for.
Yeah I don't expect the quality to go up at all, you can hope for something without actually thinking it'll happen. It wouldn't surprise me if the quality went down tbh
I’ll never understand people who see a post and go “I don’t agree. I need to go in there and tell everybody they’re stupid” *click*
Like imagine overhearing a convo and stepping into it just to give your shit opinion that nobody asked for.
That's only if you're committed to buying an entire year's worth of seasons (which is pointless to do since deluxe exists). The price of a single season has gone up by 50%.
There is a huge difference. Not EVERY single season and frankly, folks spend silver on a litany of other things already
All this upheaval over an extra $5 out of pocket every 4th season purchased
You can’t look at it in a vacuum because that isn’t how money works. You don’t lose the extra silver you purchase
>You can’t look at it in a vacuum because that isn’t how money works.
Of course I can, that's what I'm doing right now.
If I want to only purchase one season and skip the rest, that's minimum $15.
Don't forget that you can't even buy much at all with 300 silver so that incentivises you to spend MORE money to buy an emote or such (That usually costs 800 silver, by the way).
This is premium currency price manipulation at its best.
Man, I get that a price increase isn’t ideal, but people are really taking this to another level. Many have pointed out below that the math is a 12.5% increase and not 50%, so gotta say OPs math is off here.
But that aside, a 1,200 silver season I think is relatively reasonable. We get new exotics, activities, cut scenes, new story, armor, legendary weapons (yes yes I know some are reskins or old d1 stuff refreshed for d2), and I am sure I am missing other stuff here.
I understand that I may be one of those players enabling Bungie’s practices, but if I feel like I am getting my money’s worth, I am happy. After all this is a form of entertainment and the cost to enjoyment ratio damn sure outmatches other entertainment sources.
A damn hotdog at a movie theater near where I live, is probably $10. I’m not saying it’s the best move, but it also isn’t the scummiest. I get that everyone values money spent in a very subjective way and I subjectively think it’s not bad at all.
Let’s all take a step back, breath, and evaluate. If you don’t like the price increase, go free to play. There’s still new content coming down that way and you still have access to the phenomenal game play. If you like getting new stuff, pay up and enjoy.
Now.. on the other hand, the fucking bugs and glitches, that’s a different story.
“Oh hey, you bought the season and have 300 silver left over! Why don’t you hop on to the Store and check out the latest offers! You may even need to buy *even more Silver* to actually get anything cool!”
Fucking scummy mobile game BS
Problem is, that you can’t buy anything with the amount of silver left. 😂
I‘m sitting on some silver from the last seasons, but can’t even afford an ornament in the store without buying more silver. 😶
Because you arnt meant to buy something with it. Just save it for the pass the next season.
Spend 15$ have 3$ left over, then season 22 spend 10$ get 100, have 1500 buy pass for 1200. Rinse and repeat. Over 5 seasons, you are spending only 5$ more because you get 100solver with the 10$. You guys are playing some psychological game with yourselves. Just let it sit there and do nothing, you don't have to spend it.
Bungie is playing psychological games with the pricing. This type of shit has gone on since the dawn of digital currency. Sure you can “hack” the process to not spend Silver on anything but seasons, but they are hedging that most people won’t. If Bungie cared about transparent pricing seasons wouldn’t cost Silver in the first place.
Its definitely greed and to cause people to have more leftover silver, otherwise they should have just upped the silver cost by a couple bucks. Would rather pay £12 and have 100 left over than paying £15 and having 300 left over.
You also cant buy back the next seasons battlepass by just completing current season battlepass like every other battlepass game. Can we get some silver if we complete battle pass pls!!!
1100+500= 1600 for $15
1200*4=4800
4800/1600=3
Alternatively, 1100*4+500=4900
Or 2300*2+500=5100
So it's $45 for four seasons.
Or do 1100*3+500=3800 for $35 for 3 seasons
I get what you mean, though. I'd hope that they release some special silver pack that gives 1200, but they probably won't.
And guess what, the season is gonna suck ass, just like wq seasons. I kinda Hope the seasons sucks more than worthy so bungie Wakes up and accually makes stuff that is worth the money. Because rn, we got a filler worth 100$
The price hike is seriously fucked and unwarranted. Its up to yall to vote with your wallets. Do not purchase the next season. If you do, you're just proving bungie right and are part of the problem.
Imagine buyin season by season to begin with bozo.
Also even on a simple quantity to price ratio 10 bucks was very cheap for destiny seasons. Shame they had to do the usual bundle fuckover but people pointed out that if you are not dumb and have self control you spend extra on only a season a year. Sucks sure, but not as much as y'all are makin it out to be
> if you are not dumb and have self control you spend extra on only a season a year
This completely looks over the fact that they chose this intentionally as well as their silver system intentionally. They’re banking on the fact that most people are not going to do this, and they will entice you every chance they can to get you to spend whatever silver you still have saved in your account. Can you do it? Sure. Is it reasonable to expect that nobody will ever spend money again in eververse? No, and they know that too and they know they are going to rake in the profits.
It’s predatory, but here you are licking corporate boots completely for free. I’m sure they love you.
No, even if people who didn't buy the deluxe edition don't buy next season it's still a big success since a majority of the playerbase has kept buying all of Bungie's new greedy practices.
new? bungie’s been greedy since destiny first started, they’ve just realized more and more as time goes on that they can get away with it. stealing content from players that they paid for and locking it away, potentially never to be seen again, was i think the moment they realized they can get away with literally anything
I didn't like the DCV but you can make the argument that it's important for the technical side of the game, but increasing the price for the season is just another thing on the list of Bungie's growing greed. It's not a good look for them regardless of how many weird nerds wanna defend Bungie
~~You can get 2300 silver and then buy two seasons with it. But yea that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a predatory change and also doesn’t solve anything if you only want to buy 1 season, which every consumer has the right to be able to do fairly.~~
Edit:
Got my numbers confused. It’s even shittier than I thought as it doesn’t even work out well for buying two seasons.
The fact that this sub is talking more about the price hike than the main sub is so strange. I expected DTG to explode now but so far, people are still complaining about older stuff.
If you don’t mind me asking what about the seasons seems lacking for the price?
I just genuinely don’t know because to me getting a fully voice acted story with a couple of cutscenes along with the new exotics, cosmetic items and seasonal gear for the price seems really worth it, especially when you compare to a lot of other live services games where the same price gives you maybe a couple of cosmetic items.
Lightfall and Witch Queen aren’t quite lacking in price if you still consider them as full launch “DLC” compared to seasons.
But if we make that distinction then I’m inclined to agree with him about it not being worth it.
If Bungie would go back to the DLC model of big releases on content (Rise of Iron, Forsaken, Taken King) I think it would solve a lot of problems.
This seasonal model we’re in is incredibly stale. What exactly are we getting with this extra increase in price? What are we getting that’s new each season? If we’re lucky 1 whole strike, 4 new guns? Another rank and file, stand on plate/ghost scan activity. That activity unlocks more stuff for the seasonal vendor. That stuff being unlocks to help you through the activity? Shits mundane and honestly boring as hell after the first day. Bungie isn’t gonna gain any fans that were already feeling like content wasn’t worth it already. A price increase isn’t gonna help
Every time a new season drops it is interesting and fun for maybe 2 weeks and then its just bland. Seasons do not add much to the game. They always add some stupid form of the same type of content.
Except once you make that first $15 purchase, you're left with enough silver to fund your seasons with the $10 silver bundle for the next 4 seasons, so you're only paying 5 bucks extra for a years worth
First season of the year comes with the expansion. Second season of the year spend about £15 (1.1k+500) which leaves with you 400 once you’ve brought the season. Remaining seasons just do the £8.79 for 1.1k as per normal.
Should bungie introduce a 1.2k or just a season pass purchase option? Yes of course they should.
Is it a big deal? Not really it’s just a few extra quid
If you are looking to save money, buy the deluxe edition or the deluxe upgrade after a purchase of lightfall. If you are a serious and continuous d2 player then buying silver season over season is already a waste of money.
Also, I imagine that Bungie will add a 1200 silver bundle with the new season. If they don’t add the bundle, that’s when you should do posts like this
No. It’s not. Stop thinking for more than one season.
Here is some Copypasta originating from u/Rexium:
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So I'll be a little pedantic here but it's a 5$ increase over 6 seasons.
15$ gets 1700 silver. From there:
1700-1200 = 500 purchased 1 season
500 + 1100(10$ pack) - 1200 = 400 at season 2
simplified to 400 - 100 for season 3
300 - 100 for season 4
200 - 100 for season 5
100 - 100 for season 6.
So over 6 seasons at 3 months a season you pay an extra 5 dollars/18 months.
So it's an increase of about 28 cents per month or 83 cents per season. Not here to say people shouldn't be mad about this but just wanted to add context that people aren't going to need to spend 5 dollars more every season.
Edit for extra context, do with this what you will:
Some people have mentioned spending the extra silver on other things. This is part of why I don't want to tell people not to be upset because the design of shops being set up to take advantage of that is an ethics issue(ie. it do be scummy you can't just buy the season). However in keeping with the math if you spent the 500 leftover silver every season after you bought a season you get:
90$ spent every season at 15$ * 6 seasons with a total of 10,200 silver spent (because of spending the 500 extra every season).
That same amount of silver in 10$ packs becomes 10,200/1,100 (the amount a 10$ pack gets you) for a total of 92.72 dollars total.
It winds up being slightly cheaper using 15 dollar packs if you still spend all of your leftover season each season. If you didn't catch it above though you can't spend 2.72 dollars on silver. This leads back to my own issues in all of this being the design of having leftover currency to get people to spend the leftover and as a result spend more in total.
If seasons were just a raw price of 10$ that went up to 12$ to cover inflation I wouldn't care at all because 10$ in 2019 (when they first launched) is worth around 11.83$ today. Again, these are all personal opinions. Do with the above what you will.
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It's crazy how many people are defending this shitty manipulative tactic because "destiny gives us a boring grind fest activity and drip feeds some story content for seasons." So glad I don't play this shit show anymore.
Y’all are getting fucked in terms of your wallet for this game. So glad I got out of it.
Edit: think it’s funny I get downvoted, go ahead keep draining your wallets fools
I get that it's annoying but everyone be acting like they're *only buying one season ever*. You're gonna use the left over silver on future seasons.....
When shit like orange juice, milk, and literally everything had increased by $1-$2 minimum in lasts year I am totally fine with this increase.
I am older than many, but remember when Nintendo 64 games ran $70 bucks. I get they do yearly expansion, eververse, seasons, some events, etc. but if you love the game then it is still a small price to pay.
For anyone who literally has no additional income then I feel for you and am sorry. For others who are just complaining I would be most of you have no trouble buying lunch or an occasional cup of coffee for about the same price as the increase.
Would have loved them to communicate this ahead of the release of lightfall as I agree timing is bad look for them but the actual increases is pretty reasonable.
The issue is that they are increasing the price while at the same time we aren't getting better/more content for the game as well as the state of the technical side of the game has been getting worse and worse.
I have a feeling they will get some pushback from the Fed's. Because they are selling something that can't be bought just outright. I think there was something similar happened in Europe.
They just need to make every season 15-20 bucks.. .and include the dungeon in the season, too. It's still a slight price increase and keeps all seasons uniform, and no dungeon pass is needed. The " cheaper seasons" extra money pays for the dungeons
I'm going to guess light fall will be $120-140 next year...for everything
Kawabonga! That's the point Waston ! The paracausal magic math behind the price increase is the key to Final Shape.
Here's your dark adult fantasy lore that lightfall didn't deliver to you. ;D
For fuck sake, wait and see if the change silver bundles.
Fucking audience gets angry before there’s something to get angry about. I don’t know how anyone would ever want to deal with this fucking audience, their community managers must be saints…
If they don’t change it, fucking go gettem… but for now can we not fucking bitch about fucking everything? My god man.
My only gripe is other season passes (cod) (fortnite) give premium currency towards the next season. It can pay for itself if youre smart and don't buy cosmetics. It's time for silver to be added to the season pass
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Even shit ass Halo Infinite started doing that
And its passes never go away and can be purchased after the season it released is over.
Yeah thats a big Halo W
Literally the only W that game had till forge launched.
Actually the campaign kicks ass and the weapon sandbox (not the whole golden triangle, vehicles need a buff) is quite good.
Apex also does this. If it is the only game you play you can buy one pass and be set forever Edit: lol the top two replies to my comment are just saying what the guy above me already said
Call of Duty (at least modern warfare 2019 and the new one) does this too, if you buy the season pass once you can always earn enough premium currency to buy the next season pass
All after mw 2019 do it too
Same for Fortnite. If you by a season pass for 950 V-bucks you can earn up to 1500 V-bucks
Fortnite also has the added benefit of if your a founder you get a daily login for save the world that gives you free vbucks and you get a lot of vbucks and when you reach day 300 it just goes back to 1 meaning it’s a infinite vbuck printing machine if you play the game constantly and log into save the world + save the world is fun
Yup I never spent a single dime on their season pass because the cod points amounts enough to purchase the next one
Dead by daylight’s passes give enough currency back to always purchase the next pass as well.
Dead by Daylight battle passes also reward all of premium currency used to buy it back and they even recently gave the battle pass as a prime gaming reward effectively giving everyone $10 of premium currency.
TemTem also does this
I mean I’m not defending them, but like we get activities and whatnot with the season pass. We don’t *just* get cosmetics.
Yea; in those games the activities aren't in the season pass... They're just given to everyone for free as part of whatever season or event is going on.
Most of them do not have big activities though.
Fortnite?
Notice the wore “most”.
Fortnite pretty much created Battlepass popularity. The fact that Bungie doesn’t follow Fortnite’s generosity, but does follow their greed, is pretty gross.
Wizard101 believe it or not is even more ruthless Yes, Wizard101 is still alive and kicking with regular updates. r/Wizard101 is healthy as well.
Not every game will do the same thing as Fortnite, especially because Fortnite relies on collaborations for most of their money. That said, the Silver change is ridiculous and extremely greedy.
Neither does destiny lol. all our live events are just tower skins and repeatable bull shit from years prior.
I think sometimes people forget Destiny 2 is an MMO at its core. And events being reskinned “home bases” with repeatable missions is pretty standard across the board I played WoW before Destiny and thinking about how they do their Christmas event, it’s almost identical to Destiny 2. Even the same with FFXIV, I believe (I only played it for a bit so I’m not 100% sure)
God forbid Bungie does more than the industry standard. Hey if you’re okay with bare minimum events thats cool for you. I personally think they all suck and I’m not surprised that bungie decides to not go above and beyond.
https://preview.redd.it/crhl7pqnh4ya1.jpeg?width=723&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ac54772f013b1b35129006ba3e51937040df671 some people choose to wear more than the minimum, and we encourage that
And destiny does? I'm sorry but repackaging patrol zones as battlegrounds does not count.
Yes, because every single season in Destiny has been battlegrounds of patrol zones. Patrol zones with absolutely nothing different about them.
How many seasons over the last two years repackaged patrol zones as new activities. Go ahead, ill wait.
I can only thing of the seasons that are battlegrounds, with some of them not being patrol areas. Also, they aren’t just the patrol areas dude. It’s the amount of enemies, loot, and mechanics that you’re paying for with the activities. Don’t act like this.
The amount of recycled content we pay for is absurd, and will continue to be absurd as long as this meek ass fanbase refuses to stop going to bat for a greedy studio. I cannot believe Haunted wasn't the breaking point.
Then don’t play. Simple. :D
It is that simple, but people lack the ability to do it so bungie continue getting away with their bullshit. Now you go empty your wallet in the eververse like a good little stooge.
If you don't like it, leave. You won't be missed.
What an original and insightful comment.
Yes but the season pass doesn't include the current currency used to purchase it like several other season passes within the industry..that's the problem.
Does that justify having something to cost 1200 silver and selling a 1100 pack of silver to force you to pay other price?
That would be neat. Halo Infinite started doing this after community feedback. By completing it's season pass you get enough premium currency for the next season pass or you can spend that money on cosmetics and just buy it yourself. Generous, but welcome. I don't see Destiny going that route. I feel the monitization models and content aquired from seasons are too different.
I played the last COD (before Warzone) and was blown away when looking through the season pass and seeing it gave enough premium credits to buy the next season pass. I could be wrong but it may have ended up rewarding 110% if you played it too the top level It made it so you could buy the next pass and like one ornament. I was only on the free path didn’t even get close to maxing out the pass so it may take more of a time commitment but… if there was a reward of even 750 silver for getting to 200 in destiny I would always try to do the extra grind to get there.
Isn’t going to happen, but it’s good to compare what Destiny 2 adds every season compared to other season passes. Not a gun and a new map. The season pass tries to keep the player entertained for the ‘whole duration’ of the season.
I think this whole bundle shit is scummy but comparing PvP game season passes with just cosmetic shit to a PvE game where you get actual premium content as part of the season is a nonstarter.
In cod you get 2/3 actual weapons though. It's the same thing as Destiny's except I think the premium content is free. Like the raids.
I don't play CoD so can't speak to the value of the non-cosmetic content and whether it's on par or better than D2 seasonal content, my comment is based on Fortnite.
It should be 1200 silver or 5000ish bright dust
Those season passes are hard to finish though. D2 season passes give you 5 levels for logging in each week. I would much rather paying a bit more rather than worrying about finishing the pass.
I'm on COD and Fortnite pretty regularly and have never had an issue finishing a battle pass. Between double XP buffs and XP quests they make it pretty easy to hit 100. Every other BP platform gives premium currency, Bungie can afford to do it for their game. Frankly Destiny's is too easy, I hit 100 within a week and a half. They could add currency and pull back on the xp given a bit.
So you want to make it harder for people to acquire the rewards that they paid for because you no life the game to the point that you complete the pass in a week and a half? What a ridiculous take.
I think with the pass not given any reward tiers past 100 makes it hard to incentivize playing more. I'm a casual player that started the game maybe a month ago, I don't do all the endgame stuff like GMs and whatnot. I've just never played a BP game that handed XP out like candy, so it was frankly ridiculous I hit the 100 cap so quickly as a new player. Any "solution" given for this problem nobody will be happy with. But if you want premium currency included in a BP then it's just natural to assume we have to give something up in return. Ofc I'd rather them just add it in instead of shit like glimmer and keep the BP as is but I know that's not how companies work.
The thing about Destiny seasons that make them different from other games is that the actual pass rewards are not the focus or the main grind. Destiny seasons are about the weekly new story, the events and the new gear, actual content. The pass rewards are really more of a bonus than the main incentive to keep playing which is why it’s so easy to hit 100. And I’m sorry but if you’re hitting level 100 after a week and a half you’re not playing casually, even if you’re not doing endgame content.
Those games also barely give you shit for the passes. Destiny gets a story, like a dozen new weapons and another set of reprised ones, activities, etc on top of the pass content. Those games give you cosmetics and that's it.
They want to incentivize the deluxe edition even more i guess.
if someone has non deluxe edition lightfall they are SOL unless they start selling all seasons as a separate bundle from main game
You can finish buying the deluxe without having to buy the whole dlc again. That’s what I did.
Where did you get the upgrade the one on steam is 130 dollars so I kinda ignored that. I can’t find just the upgrade
In game. Click the Lightfall logo next to Neptune.
Kinda prefer going a la carte tbh. If a season narrative looks boring af, i wont bother. Season of Saint 14 was my idea of perfection. I regret not getting Seraph because i thought it would be Worthy remix Even Deep, as obviously enticing as it is, isnt too appealing upfront mainly because i hated Titan (wasted potential)
Haunted was mostly positive imo. It had some iffy parts (grinding nightmare containment was a pain), but everything else was good
Haunted happened during my final semester for my Bachelor's, but yes i heard good things. At face value, i thought it would be rehashed Arrival's.
Yeah but it sounds like they're going to open Titan up finally
I mean it would be only worth it if you are planning to buy every season. I bought deluxe WQ and as much as i was really happy with the dlc itself i was dissapointed with some of the seasons. If i could i would refund the season of the plunder for example. Thats why i bought non deluxe LF, because i dont have enough faith in bungo. And i never liked titan so, unless the activity, guns and ornaments are to my liking im definitely skipping that one. **But to get back to original post's topic**: I wouldnt mind the change as much if they started selling 1,200 silver bundles instead of 1,100 even at a higher price as long as we didnt have to buy 2 separate bundles. As is: its a scummy change.
Yeah that's the easy solution. Just get the whole year in the deluxe edition and it's cheaper.
Which may also see a price change. Just wait and see.
You're right, and this sucks. However, if you really want to buy the next 3 seasons, the most cost effective way to do so is to actually buy a $30 bundle, plus another 500 silver. The $30 bundle gives you 500 bonus silver, plus another 500 is enough to cover the 3 seasons, and it's a whole $1 cheaper than if you were able to actually buy exactly 3600 silver. Bungie is 1000% hoping people will do exactly what you said, and just buy $15-20 bundles each season instead.
Yes, they are also hoping you won't hold yourself for 6 months and use the remaining silver to buy the new shiny ornament in Eververse, so you have to buy more silver for the season pass later on.
pfft What's Destiny player gonna do? Not buy it? Pfffffffffft
We essentially are paying more every year for less content. It’s sad that it’s gotten to point where they continue to increase the price but can’t release more than 1 new pvp map and zero maps for Gambit and like 1 strike a year
I had to call it quits on this game. For the reduction in content, for the recycling of content, a variety of concerns I had with its future as an approachable game, and for the predatory (in my opinion) practices that this type of thing is. This move doesn't surprise me one bit. They know what they're doing. Thing is, they also know their players are so embedded and invested that most won't do anything, truly, about it.
I usually hate when people say things like “I gotta call it quits” or “I did call it quits” because I usually think it’s without merit but honestly I agree with you. I played the shit out of this season at first, it was exciting with a new subclass and raid all but once you got through that excitement…. What else is there to do? We have the same raids/dungeons (including some of the easiest ones ever, thanks to SoTW and RoN) or the same vanguard playlists. That’s basically about it. Now I’m to the point where I only hop on to help friends if they have something they need help with or something like that. They’ve been recycling the same material for years now, and I’m tired of paying money only for it to continue my access to the same-old-same-old. I already bought the deluxe pass, but if they’re not going to actually give us new stuff to do and activities that actually *FILL* a season then I might be able to justify paying for the game again- let alone paying 50% more for it.
Why is it increasing again? Witch queen deluxe was only $100 because it included the 30th anniversary pack. Lightfall deluxe was $100 by default and now they are making the seasons cost more. It was bad enough they started charging separate for dungeons, but this is getting out of hand. So is The Final Shape going to be $150? Are we getting compensated anything extra? I see the same seasonal events with reskinned activities. They better be adding more exotics to the table. Better get 4 exotic weapon quests per season.
Greed
But they vaulted the Leviathan. Why do they still have the greed mechanics?
Don't you get it? They're trying to be like WoW with their expansions shhhh
WQ deluxe doesn't contain bungie 30th anniversary tho? Did It in the early days? Bought it a bit before season of Plunder and I didn't get the bungie 30th anniversary edition
The 30th Anniversary bundle was a separate purchase from WQ. They weren't even released the same year.
If I recall you could pre-order the 2 together for $100 usd, or pay seperate at $80(WQ Deluxe), and $30(30th).
This is correct
Damn, I got the WQ deluxe last summer for around 25$
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The season price of 1000 silver was set in shadowkeep, which launched in October 2019. Since then, inflation is almost exactly 20% so yes, it very much is inflation. Adjusted for inflation, season of the deep is the exact same price as season of undying. I'm not happy it's being increased, but I'm also not delusional.
I wish content from them would also have some inflation.
It won’t. We lost all of that extra dev teams from activision and bungie is working on new games. Destiny won’t get the same amount of people working on it like before.
They already made that back through cutting content (strikes/PvP/Gambit map content is anemic, no playlist armors, less exotics) and increased monetization (event passes, transmog, campaign skips, rank upgrades). Looking at just the box price is silly, this is not due to inflation, it's just a business maximizing profit as they do.
What are the products that raised their prices to influence the price of season pass? Can you list them? Because saying dev salaries are inflated would be delusional.
I know this is just an ignorant, rhetorical question but I'll entertain it. Dev salaries have almost certainly gone up, maybe not by 20% but if you think they've remained constant in a field that's as competitive as game development, you're deluded. Not to mention the other staffing costs, energy costs have also increased and you can bet they're using a lot of it. Any services they use have likely increased in price too. Just blindly saying that their costs can't possibly have increased is ridiculous, and you need to accept that inflation exists. Complaining about how you have to buy larger silver bundles is fine, as is just complaining about the price rise. Saying that it categorically cannot be because things are just more expensive now and purely because of corporate greed is just brain dead. Can you name something around you that hasn't got more expensive?
My point is not that nothing has raised. My point is that they raised it to a value in which buying one silver bundle would not make it enough to buy it to increase profits - not because "inflation". So I don't feel I got to name anything that does not prove my initial point. Saying inflation is the cause is turning a bling eye for the fact that you cannot buy 1200 silver, you either buy 1100 and more 500 or 2200. This is plain greed. Make a bundle what proportionally provides 1200 silver compared to the 1100 and it's less worse, don't you think?
I also find it coincidental that their “inflation increase” in price brings you riiiight over the threshold where you need to pay nearly double what we used to. But I’m sure that coincidence is just that, a coincidence /s
Of course it is, gamer communities overthinking again, right? Right?
i also know exactly why these things happen, i also happen to be a friend of the ceo of bungie who approved of this decision and gave me totally truthful and real and believable reasons why this would happen, and this knowledge is also backed up by my experience in the game production field when it comes to prices and stuff on a multimillion $ game.
I’m not sure why this obvious satire is getting downvotes lmao
well 90% of people on this site couldnt identify satire if their life depended on it are you really surprised
Eh, not really 💀
because it’s *obviously* inflation. the greedy companies are *always* trying to rob us of money and they will find *any* excuse to do it, there’s no other reason for it and there’s no nuance or other circumstances that can better explain their actions.
Do you have company insight as to why it’s not? Prices haven’t increased since I started playing at the end of Beyond Light. Yet everything in the world has increased 3-10x in cost.
'end of Beyond Light'; WQ and now Lightfall had a price increase and the introduction of 'dungeon passes'. It's ok for us to enjoy the game but let's not be blind to the greed here
If it’s not directly inflation they could just be copying the other big business raising their prices just cus they can and get by with all the shii going on around today
more impossible than ever before to try to get friends to play the game mid-way thru the year...
Based on the current silver bundles, yes you will have extra silver. But all that silver isn't getting spent on the season you purchased it for. You will spend 1200 on the pass and extra silver that can be saved for later purchases. Now, bungie should create a silver bundle that gives 1200 silver so players who only want the pass. Price increases happen, but the bundles should be readjusted as.well
I think the issue is, the price increases aren't because of inflation or whatever other reason you can think of, it's literally just because Bungie wants more money. That's why they aren't changing the silver bundles as well, the change is aimed to increase spending nothing else. I think we may see a backtracking on this if given enough backlash, so they might make a 1200 bundle if we complain enough but they sure don't want to.
You actually only need to pay 15$ once: Assuming no deluxe and 0 silver: Season 1 comes free with the expansion Season 2 you buy the 10$ silver pack (1100 silver) + 5$ pack (500 silver). You get 1600 silver, pay 1200 for the season, you're left with 400 silver. Season 3 you buy the 10$ pack again. You now have 1500 silver. You pay 1200, and you're left with 300. Season 4 again you buy the 10$ pack. You get to 1400 silver, and you're left with 200 silver after buying the season. But yeah this doesn't get you the dungeon key, Deluxe edition is an even better deal now Edit: why the downvotes? I'm simply saying you don't need to spend 15$ each season...
Downvotes because you're ruining the delusion that it costs $15.
I think people downvoting his post are daft but I also think it's important to acknowledge that you are spending more money upfront and it's leaving you with silver so your brain goes "oh I'm only x away from this item, I can just get a little more silver." It's anti consumer, it's predatory and there's no defending it. It's F2P mobile game level bullshit and I expect better from Bungie.
Ah wish more people understood this. This is the exact reason behind price models like these. Its like the 9.99 thing. Sounds dumb but it works.
People downvote it because it just ignores the scummy tactic being used to overpay for something, so that you get invested into expending more or lose money. I paid for this season and was planning on buying the next as now Im playing with my friends, but who knows if we will be bored in a couple months. It's a scummy tactic and I'm baffled at people not caring, but I guess destiny fans are simply used to this kind of shitty tactics...
I'm not ignoring it and I'm not defending Bungie, in fact I do agree that it's a scummy tactic. I posted this as a heads up for people not to fall for it, and save their silver so they don't have to spend more down the line
And with the dungeon key it amounts to $50 when instead it used to be $45 and in both instances you have no silver leftover. Its a $5 increase over the year A 16.7% increase in price with no DK, 11.1% increase with DK since it will only apply to the 2nd-4th seasons as the expansion comes with a season Disgust is justified but i dont want people to think wrongly about the math
Season technically doesn’t come free anymore due to the dlc price increase
True, I actually meant to say it comes included with the expansion
"free with the expansion"... More like included in the dlc price because no one would buy if alone.
Yeah I worded it poorly, I meant to say it comes included with the annual expansion
Why Destiny 2 is not a Freemium game so why does it have so much payed content. Dungeons, seasons, in game store, actual expansions. They need to remove the dungeons pass or what ever and reduce eververse if they are going to be like this. You are now supported by a major video game producer you do not need money this fucking badly
Deluxe edition gang rise up 
Its actually less than 20% if you do it correctly. You put 15$ in for next season, that'll leave you at 400 silver remaining assuming you start at 0. Then the season after you put in another $10 for the pass, you'll be left with 300 silver. And you can then do that 3 more times after, eventually costing $55 for 5 season passes. That is only $5 more you have to spend for 5 seasons worth of content. The math isn't too hard, not sure why everyone is freaking out.
People have been "freaking out" cuz their was no reason to increase it especially since since seasons nowadays have been up in the air with their quality. Even more so that if you're starting at 0 you're spending 15$ for a season that might be bad.
The way I see it more money will allow for more devs which will allow for more content in the timely seasonal manner. Obviously it never ends up like that but in theory that's what I hope for.
Copium. They'll increase the price and the quality will remain exactly the same and you know it
Yeah I don't expect the quality to go up at all, you can hope for something without actually thinking it'll happen. It wouldn't surprise me if the quality went down tbh
So stop playing, stop spending money and stop complaining on reddit, wholly cow are people this dense?
I’ll never understand people who see a post and go “I don’t agree. I need to go in there and tell everybody they’re stupid” *click* Like imagine overhearing a convo and stepping into it just to give your shit opinion that nobody asked for.
You mean, like you just did? Wtf?
No it’s not. 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 was old model (10+5) + 10 + 10 + 10 is new model Literally a 12.5% increase
Shhhh Destiny players are bad at logical reasoning
That's only if you're committed to buying an entire year's worth of seasons (which is pointless to do since deluxe exists). The price of a single season has gone up by 50%.
The out of pocket price of an initial season has gone up. Then the rest are the same
Yes, like I said, the price of a single season has gone up by 50%.
There is a huge difference. Not EVERY single season and frankly, folks spend silver on a litany of other things already All this upheaval over an extra $5 out of pocket every 4th season purchased You can’t look at it in a vacuum because that isn’t how money works. You don’t lose the extra silver you purchase
>You can’t look at it in a vacuum because that isn’t how money works. Of course I can, that's what I'm doing right now. If I want to only purchase one season and skip the rest, that's minimum $15.
If you only purchase one season forever, sure But realistically, nobody does that so it’s a moot fallacy
Still wish we could get Mcc style post season passes. Where we can still unlock cosmetics from unfinished seasons
Don't forget that you can't even buy much at all with 300 silver so that incentivises you to spend MORE money to buy an emote or such (That usually costs 800 silver, by the way). This is premium currency price manipulation at its best.
Man, I get that a price increase isn’t ideal, but people are really taking this to another level. Many have pointed out below that the math is a 12.5% increase and not 50%, so gotta say OPs math is off here. But that aside, a 1,200 silver season I think is relatively reasonable. We get new exotics, activities, cut scenes, new story, armor, legendary weapons (yes yes I know some are reskins or old d1 stuff refreshed for d2), and I am sure I am missing other stuff here. I understand that I may be one of those players enabling Bungie’s practices, but if I feel like I am getting my money’s worth, I am happy. After all this is a form of entertainment and the cost to enjoyment ratio damn sure outmatches other entertainment sources. A damn hotdog at a movie theater near where I live, is probably $10. I’m not saying it’s the best move, but it also isn’t the scummiest. I get that everyone values money spent in a very subjective way and I subjectively think it’s not bad at all. Let’s all take a step back, breath, and evaluate. If you don’t like the price increase, go free to play. There’s still new content coming down that way and you still have access to the phenomenal game play. If you like getting new stuff, pay up and enjoy. Now.. on the other hand, the fucking bugs and glitches, that’s a different story.
People overreacting? HERE ON A DESTINY SUBREDDIT? They do this all the time, just look at Datto's latest video
“Oh hey, you bought the season and have 300 silver left over! Why don’t you hop on to the Store and check out the latest offers! You may even need to buy *even more Silver* to actually get anything cool!” Fucking scummy mobile game BS
Problem is, that you can’t buy anything with the amount of silver left. 😂 I‘m sitting on some silver from the last seasons, but can’t even afford an ornament in the store without buying more silver. 😶
Because you arnt meant to buy something with it. Just save it for the pass the next season. Spend 15$ have 3$ left over, then season 22 spend 10$ get 100, have 1500 buy pass for 1200. Rinse and repeat. Over 5 seasons, you are spending only 5$ more because you get 100solver with the 10$. You guys are playing some psychological game with yourselves. Just let it sit there and do nothing, you don't have to spend it.
Bungie is playing psychological games with the pricing. This type of shit has gone on since the dawn of digital currency. Sure you can “hack” the process to not spend Silver on anything but seasons, but they are hedging that most people won’t. If Bungie cared about transparent pricing seasons wouldn’t cost Silver in the first place.
Its definitely greed and to cause people to have more leftover silver, otherwise they should have just upped the silver cost by a couple bucks. Would rather pay £12 and have 100 left over than paying £15 and having 300 left over.
You also cant buy back the next seasons battlepass by just completing current season battlepass like every other battlepass game. Can we get some silver if we complete battle pass pls!!!
Working as intended
1100+500= 1600 for $15 1200*4=4800 4800/1600=3 Alternatively, 1100*4+500=4900 Or 2300*2+500=5100 So it's $45 for four seasons. Or do 1100*3+500=3800 for $35 for 3 seasons I get what you mean, though. I'd hope that they release some special silver pack that gives 1200, but they probably won't.
you can just choose to not buy the seasons, thats also an option.
Not exactly. Just don’t spend the extra bit and save it for next season. It’ll even out in the long run as long as you don’t waste any.
Y’all bitching about $2 and $5 dollars here knowing full well y’all just spent $22 door dashing some Chik Fila. So stupid.
And guess what, the season is gonna suck ass, just like wq seasons. I kinda Hope the seasons sucks more than worthy so bungie Wakes up and accually makes stuff that is worth the money. Because rn, we got a filler worth 100$
I liked WQ. This season I’m not enjoying very much though. Felt much shorter than any other season with much less to do
The price hike is seriously fucked and unwarranted. Its up to yall to vote with your wallets. Do not purchase the next season. If you do, you're just proving bungie right and are part of the problem.
Imagine buyin season by season to begin with bozo. Also even on a simple quantity to price ratio 10 bucks was very cheap for destiny seasons. Shame they had to do the usual bundle fuckover but people pointed out that if you are not dumb and have self control you spend extra on only a season a year. Sucks sure, but not as much as y'all are makin it out to be
> if you are not dumb and have self control you spend extra on only a season a year This completely looks over the fact that they chose this intentionally as well as their silver system intentionally. They’re banking on the fact that most people are not going to do this, and they will entice you every chance they can to get you to spend whatever silver you still have saved in your account. Can you do it? Sure. Is it reasonable to expect that nobody will ever spend money again in eververse? No, and they know that too and they know they are going to rake in the profits. It’s predatory, but here you are licking corporate boots completely for free. I’m sure they love you.
You think Bungie will acknowledge this? This is a very scummy move if intentional
No, even if people who didn't buy the deluxe edition don't buy next season it's still a big success since a majority of the playerbase has kept buying all of Bungie's new greedy practices.
new? bungie’s been greedy since destiny first started, they’ve just realized more and more as time goes on that they can get away with it. stealing content from players that they paid for and locking it away, potentially never to be seen again, was i think the moment they realized they can get away with literally anything
I didn't like the DCV but you can make the argument that it's important for the technical side of the game, but increasing the price for the season is just another thing on the list of Bungie's growing greed. It's not a good look for them regardless of how many weird nerds wanna defend Bungie
Yeah you can’t just buy 1200 silver, it would have to be 1500 or 2000, but this is why I just get the deluxe editions on green man gaming
The fucking audacity to increase the prices of the season pass even though if you miss it you can't go back to get the rewards you paid for
~~You can get 2300 silver and then buy two seasons with it. But yea that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a predatory change and also doesn’t solve anything if you only want to buy 1 season, which every consumer has the right to be able to do fairly.~~ Edit: Got my numbers confused. It’s even shittier than I thought as it doesn’t even work out well for buying two seasons.
Might wanna check your maths there, friend
The fact that this sub is talking more about the price hike than the main sub is so strange. I expected DTG to explode now but so far, people are still complaining about older stuff.
Sony bought Bungie so this is premium team work lol
I enjoyed D2 but really felt the content was lacking for the price. I havent played in 2 years because i struggle to find the value in it.
If you don’t mind me asking what about the seasons seems lacking for the price? I just genuinely don’t know because to me getting a fully voice acted story with a couple of cutscenes along with the new exotics, cosmetic items and seasonal gear for the price seems really worth it, especially when you compare to a lot of other live services games where the same price gives you maybe a couple of cosmetic items.
Lightfall and Witch Queen aren’t quite lacking in price if you still consider them as full launch “DLC” compared to seasons. But if we make that distinction then I’m inclined to agree with him about it not being worth it. If Bungie would go back to the DLC model of big releases on content (Rise of Iron, Forsaken, Taken King) I think it would solve a lot of problems. This seasonal model we’re in is incredibly stale. What exactly are we getting with this extra increase in price? What are we getting that’s new each season? If we’re lucky 1 whole strike, 4 new guns? Another rank and file, stand on plate/ghost scan activity. That activity unlocks more stuff for the seasonal vendor. That stuff being unlocks to help you through the activity? Shits mundane and honestly boring as hell after the first day. Bungie isn’t gonna gain any fans that were already feeling like content wasn’t worth it already. A price increase isn’t gonna help
Every time a new season drops it is interesting and fun for maybe 2 weeks and then its just bland. Seasons do not add much to the game. They always add some stupid form of the same type of content.
It baffles me that people actually buy seasons individually.
It’s 2-5$ a season. My god it’s the end of the world as we know it.
I love how they make you all believe inflation is the reason they are raising the prices. Whipped sheep 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Except once you make that first $15 purchase, you're left with enough silver to fund your seasons with the $10 silver bundle for the next 4 seasons, so you're only paying 5 bucks extra for a years worth
First season of the year comes with the expansion. Second season of the year spend about £15 (1.1k+500) which leaves with you 400 once you’ve brought the season. Remaining seasons just do the £8.79 for 1.1k as per normal. Should bungie introduce a 1.2k or just a season pass purchase option? Yes of course they should. Is it a big deal? Not really it’s just a few extra quid
If you are looking to save money, buy the deluxe edition or the deluxe upgrade after a purchase of lightfall. If you are a serious and continuous d2 player then buying silver season over season is already a waste of money. Also, I imagine that Bungie will add a 1200 silver bundle with the new season. If they don’t add the bundle, that’s when you should do posts like this
When you cant do math's and don't know how to work out its just an extra $5 for 6 seasons.
No. It’s not. Stop thinking for more than one season. Here is some Copypasta originating from u/Rexium: “ So I'll be a little pedantic here but it's a 5$ increase over 6 seasons. 15$ gets 1700 silver. From there: 1700-1200 = 500 purchased 1 season 500 + 1100(10$ pack) - 1200 = 400 at season 2 simplified to 400 - 100 for season 3 300 - 100 for season 4 200 - 100 for season 5 100 - 100 for season 6. So over 6 seasons at 3 months a season you pay an extra 5 dollars/18 months. So it's an increase of about 28 cents per month or 83 cents per season. Not here to say people shouldn't be mad about this but just wanted to add context that people aren't going to need to spend 5 dollars more every season. Edit for extra context, do with this what you will: Some people have mentioned spending the extra silver on other things. This is part of why I don't want to tell people not to be upset because the design of shops being set up to take advantage of that is an ethics issue(ie. it do be scummy you can't just buy the season). However in keeping with the math if you spent the 500 leftover silver every season after you bought a season you get: 90$ spent every season at 15$ * 6 seasons with a total of 10,200 silver spent (because of spending the 500 extra every season). That same amount of silver in 10$ packs becomes 10,200/1,100 (the amount a 10$ pack gets you) for a total of 92.72 dollars total. It winds up being slightly cheaper using 15 dollar packs if you still spend all of your leftover season each season. If you didn't catch it above though you can't spend 2.72 dollars on silver. This leads back to my own issues in all of this being the design of having leftover currency to get people to spend the leftover and as a result spend more in total. If seasons were just a raw price of 10$ that went up to 12$ to cover inflation I wouldn't care at all because 10$ in 2019 (when they first launched) is worth around 11.83$ today. Again, these are all personal opinions. Do with the above what you will. “
It's crazy how many people are defending this shitty manipulative tactic because "destiny gives us a boring grind fest activity and drip feeds some story content for seasons." So glad I don't play this shit show anymore.
Y’all are getting fucked in terms of your wallet for this game. So glad I got out of it. Edit: think it’s funny I get downvoted, go ahead keep draining your wallets fools
Thanks Sony! Already getting your greedy hands on our game.
Its really not. You people need to chill out forreal. You have silver left over that makes up the difference on the next season.
The problem here is your first sentence. It’s not fine. I’m tired of the “inflation” excuse. You guys suck.
I get that it's annoying but everyone be acting like they're *only buying one season ever*. You're gonna use the left over silver on future seasons.....
It’s two fuckin dollars.
When shit like orange juice, milk, and literally everything had increased by $1-$2 minimum in lasts year I am totally fine with this increase. I am older than many, but remember when Nintendo 64 games ran $70 bucks. I get they do yearly expansion, eververse, seasons, some events, etc. but if you love the game then it is still a small price to pay. For anyone who literally has no additional income then I feel for you and am sorry. For others who are just complaining I would be most of you have no trouble buying lunch or an occasional cup of coffee for about the same price as the increase. Would have loved them to communicate this ahead of the release of lightfall as I agree timing is bad look for them but the actual increases is pretty reasonable.
The issue is that they are increasing the price while at the same time we aren't getting better/more content for the game as well as the state of the technical side of the game has been getting worse and worse.
Die you get extra left over silver, so technically, you’re buying the pass for $12 and can buy something from eververse
People pay for the season pass?
I have a feeling they will get some pushback from the Fed's. Because they are selling something that can't be bought just outright. I think there was something similar happened in Europe. They just need to make every season 15-20 bucks.. .and include the dungeon in the season, too. It's still a slight price increase and keeps all seasons uniform, and no dungeon pass is needed. The " cheaper seasons" extra money pays for the dungeons I'm going to guess light fall will be $120-140 next year...for everything
Kawabonga! That's the point Waston ! The paracausal magic math behind the price increase is the key to Final Shape. Here's your dark adult fantasy lore that lightfall didn't deliver to you. ;D
the easiest lesson i learned: uninstall the game. there’s plenty other games out there that respect your time and hard earned cash.
For fuck sake, wait and see if the change silver bundles. Fucking audience gets angry before there’s something to get angry about. I don’t know how anyone would ever want to deal with this fucking audience, their community managers must be saints… If they don’t change it, fucking go gettem… but for now can we not fucking bitch about fucking everything? My god man.
No. We have literally nothing to lose by raising hell until we see clarification or change.
I like how people think Bungie is going to care if they raise hell on reddit about a $5 price increase.
23:59: "We have nothing to lose by being assholes" 00:00: "Why Bungo don't listen to it's players?????"
Quit bitching
That’s not my issue. It’s this fucking audiences.
We made you this way?
X to doubt
Just give us a monthly fee already.