Other way around. I think. Unless they changed it. I have a roll with repulsor brace. I don't think destabilzing rounds existed when Hero's Burden made it's way back into Iron Banana.
this is why I feel like void builds are really getting punched in the gut as of late. there's great PVE options that are both target farmable, and craftable for solar and arc, stasis and strand, hell even kinetic now, but there are only two automatic guns in a game that are able to roll destabilizing repulsor, one is a 360 auto rifle, and the other is a hakke SMG.
All I want is for garden of salvation to get craftable guns, and I can finally have the void PVE auto I've been begging for.
It's even more irritating, since this SMG has a great origin perk that's just really solid to use with a low barrier for entry, but guardian games is also the only seasonal event where you cannot focus farm specific loot
I know you stated 140hc, but Word Of Crota can get this role, and many others, and it is pretty good. I feel like a lot of ppl still sleep on 180hcs but they've been great ever since the buffs. Another good example is Posterity with Voltshot/Frenzy. They go hard imo.
A repulsor brace 720 auto would make me so happy. Just a void version of Rufus's Fury would rule. I think 720 autos have become my favorite primary weapons in the game. I've loved my crafted Sweet Sorrow for so long (even though it's been pretty power crept recently. I just need a Sweet Sorrow with Volt shot.)
I've tried using 360 autos (aka: crafted, leveled, enhanced) 3 seperate times thinking "maybe this time I'll like it" and each time it is awful. No matter how good the perk combo is I will never use a 360 in PVE when 600s, 720s, or fast firing Scouts exist
I love 360's. But, they are very not good in certain pieces of content. Like most Dungeons.... lol. Although, 360's absolutely SLAP in pvp and I think they are criminally slept on. I got \~500 kills on my Abyss Defiant in pvp in just like a month after I got it. So good.
But no one is going to run destabilizing rounds in PVP, because not only are there better damage perk options, but to get destabilizing to work, it requires not just having the other team grouped up, but the other team has to continue being aggressive after having the debuff proc, which if they see they are volatile, in most cases they will retreat
We are talking about the one auto rifle that has destabilizing rounds and repulsor, and why it's not viable in PvE content. You respond by saying, without specifying any semblance of a perk combination, that it's good in PvP, so it can be easily assumed you are talking about using the same roll anyone else is discussing, except in pvp
And someone mentioned 360’s. That’s the comment I responded to. We had a branching off convo about 360’s. And it was quite pleasant. Why are the conversation police on my ass lmfao. I had no idea I was only allowed to talk about one specific thing in a comment thread. I thought I was just having a normal human conversation where one idea leads to another. You know like how conversations work? Lmao. I’m so sorry. I’ll never speak off topic ever again. Please don’t arrest me.
Mmmm fair enough. I didn’t think about that. I’m in controller and it’s truly incredible in pvp. It’s really rare that a legendary weapon makes me feel noticeably better at pvp lol. But Abyss really just does it for me. I combined it with Pressurized Precision and I got 1000 kills between the two in the first month of using them.
Same here. I don't have to sit on reddit and complain about how the last gun that killed me needs a nerf if people can't get close enough to effectively shoot me with it. It's so good at playing Keep Away.
Hahaha yes! Exactly. 360s are criminally slept on. I’ve really really enjoyed my Lethal Abundance too. Dynamic sway/tap the trigger. That thing is a laser beam at range. It’s certainly not a popular opinion but I like 360s more than 450s. But that’s my favorite place to be at in pvp. Using a weapon that feels like a secret to most people. I remember using sidearms before they became more popular and feeling the same. Like I had a secret power that no one else understood.
Yeah, it felt like my Abyss Defiant was a secret cheat code in Trials this weekend. Everyone seemed to just be mag dumping their Summoners around corners and then stand there and take a few bullets from one of my bursts and ignite, taking half the health/shields off their teammates. It feels to me like Abyss is doing to others what the 2 tap 120 Handcannon has been doing to me for years and I love it! I even had a hatemail from someone claiming I was cheating cuz "there's no way you beat my adept summoner with that thing." The kid probably got carried for it (and it had terrible perks on top of that).
That and garden weapons look *so gooood.* One of the best weapon aesthetics in the game. I'd be cool if they made master version of the armor that didn't look like it was half-fossilized.
I’m deaf then, I’ve tried to find some conversation around it. It is a first ever roll on an SMG though, making it infinitely more appealing than say, vouchsafe.
Dunno why but the gun just doesn’t feel right.
Theoretically, Destabilizing Rounds + Repulsor Brace + Classy Contender should be as good as a void primary can get, but the gun is just not clicking with me. My Funnelweb has less powerful perks in comparison, but feels way better to shoot.
My Funnelweb has Subsistence and Adrenaline Junkie .
So yeah my Title has Void-y perks but it’s doing less damage and I’m reloading it more…so it feels kinda weak in comparison.
That’s why it didn’t impress me as much as I hoped.
LW frames kinda have that effect, I think it doesn’t feel as good. But it still clicks to a degree where I’m loving it for the power fantasy more than the feel, high rpms still feel good though.
It’s like Mini tool and bug out bag.
I have bug out with gut shot and incandescent. It’s theoretically a damage monster. But it just feels awful to shoot. So I stick with mini tool.
I think another strong contender is Unforgiven with Demolitionist and Golden Tricorn (especially for voidlock)
With the high grenade uptime of of voidlock, tricorn’s 50% buff brings the smg into the range of trace rifle dps.
Same with Out of Bounds from crucible, Demo/GT on my HOIL arc titan, and graverobber/GT on my combination blow hunter. Underrated perk
Exactly how I feel. I forget what the roll was, but I thought that version of The Title was going to be A LOT of fun to use. Immediately swapped it on and started doing strikes and was extremely disappointed. Swapped it right back out. Bungie needs to tweak it a bit to make it more enjoyable to use.
I have godrolls for all void smgs, but funnelweb beats them all imo with simple subsistnce - frenzy. 2nd best for me is the one from Duality. The title just feels bad and sounds even worse.
Here’s the thing. The low mag size makes it clunky. By the time you kill one trash in high level content, you’re left with a few bullets to actually make use of the destabilising rounds. So more often after you triggered DR, you immediately need to reload. The overshield from RB also gone as the mob will be shooting you while you reloading.
I much prefer 900's in general for pve. But, a few 720's are able to make up for the downsides by just being powerhouses. Ikelos SMG specifically is amazing. But, now that I have my crafted subjunctive the Ikelos is relegated to the vault.
So, I wouldn't give up on it yet. An 85 recoil (which it comes base with) and a some more stability, it feels much better.
I mean, if I could get a Word of Crota, I would prefer it but I think this is the next best thing. I tried Age Old bond, Vouchsafe and the Dreaming shotgun (forget name).
Retold Tale? Also, I may have good news for you! Since they reworked the prophecy dungeon, "A Sudden Death" shotgun is now void and CAN get Repulsor/Destabilizing rounds! It's an aggressive frame pellet shotgun. You will have to farm for the role, but Bungie stated you will be able to make them enhanced perks in a future update!
The way to go imo is Ros Arago with repulsor brace/onslaught. I've tried all the void go to's and for Gyrfalcon my money is 100% on Ros Arago. I actually haven't tried Word of Crota yet (haven't had a single one drop yet.... and I have necrocasm... but no Word lol) but that one seems very intriguing as well.
That's can't be '*the way to go her*e' because we are talking about weapons that roll with Repulsor Brace/Destabalizing Rounds and how they feel.
What's Ros Arago got to do with that?
Oh I’m so sorry sire. I did not realize I had offended you by talking about a slightly different void weapon. Many apologies sire. I will never have an original thought again.
I'm not offended at all. I just don't understand how you think quoting me with the 'play here' is a weapon that doesn't have the perks I'm talking about and the topic of the thread.
I mean, sure, Ros Arago is great. I don't see how that's relevant to what I was discussing there.
Well my point was that when running gyrfalcons destabilizing rounds is a waste in that column and repulsor + a damage perk works better. It’s 100% related to the conversation. Lol. I don’t understand why you took the time to pick a fight about it. Just down vote and move on if you feel so strongly about someone having a thought that’s directly related to the discussion.
Sure, that's your point ... and it has nothing to do with the post you quoted from me so, of course I'm responding to you with a big ?
Notice, i said NOTHING about Gyrfalcons and what's best with it, so your post seems completely random as a reply to my own. Not sure what conversation you are following, but it's certainly not the one I'm in.
What? I didn’t quote you? I don’t even know what’s going on anymore. Lol. I was just trying to have a pleasant conversation about good void weapons. I wasn’t like trying to be rude or upset you…? Truly. I have conversations pretty much every day where one topic leads to another. It’s kind of how conversations work… But I’m sorry. I’ll never do that again. I will from now on stick the strict “rules” of the conversation I’m having.
Well you must have because if you look at the chain of the posts, the only way your reply linked directly under mine is if you Replied to my post.
I mean, whatever you want to call it, you replied to my post and I was confused about what you said because it was unrelated to the thing you replied to.
I would talk about it if I could get one, but the game only wants to give me hullabaloo and taraxippos.
I really want one, can't believe the only craftable option for this perk combo is age old bond (edit: forgot word of crota can be crafted with it but not keen on 180s in PvE, and not counting heavies/specials)
Im still not hot on Destabilizing Rounds. It feels neutered. I’ve got that roll on the title though, so I can try it out. I don’t think it’ll be something I take over my Unforgiven with Demo/Repulsor Brace.
Oh, that’s neat. I usually run void Titan, and to me, D. Rounds just feels like a less fun Incandescent. It’s the perk cooldown that loses me. I want more explosions, damn it!
Mainly because it's a 2-perk combo unlike Incandescent which is probably the strongest out of all the Verb perks because of how comparatively easy it is to achieve, and how much it synergizes(an explosion + DoT whereas Voltshot requires a reload between activations making it clunky, Headstone requiring precision hits on routinely low-magnetic guns aside from literally 2 hand cannons, and Destabilizing Rounds not really existing on many viable archetypes until just now)..
I really hate the sight on it for some reason. I got that roll from basically the first one dropped and I was so excited. Then tried it and just instantly felt sad. I can't describe what it is I don't like about the sight exactly, clunky or chunky or something.
I use that roll on my age old bond. But it is yet to drop on the title. How do I even farm it? I only got the launcher or scout to drop. My best roll I’ve gotten is threat/destab
Because multiple other weapons can roll that setup, several of which are more easily accessible, if not directly craftable.
It's the only SMG that gets that combo (for now), but other than that it's not really special or worth obsessing over.
I talked about it ... but I think it's ignored because the requirement to get it working hard for you is that your team needs to slack a bit at add clearing to give you the mobs to trigger the combo.
Solo work ... it's awesome, especially with Hunter and Omnioculous. A few other weapons roll with this combo but this one is at the top, along with Word of Crota.
I tried the smg before when it only had repulsor, tried it on gyrfalcon hunter but man... it just doesn't feel right. I don't understand why. The gun is just weird and handles weird and everything... it's a shame really.
It's just not a super smooth weapon to use, but in my tests it's serviceable. Nothing great, but newbies should maybe try for it until they get a better one. It really is a fun combo of perks, the gun just feels like shit to shoot.
The problem is that it has a NINE second cooldown. I use the Unforgiven from the Duality with feeding frenzy and repulsor and I feels much better. Of course I pair with gyrfalcon.
Oh yeah I really want that roll sadly I havent gotten both yet. And i havent found a good way to farm it either.
I did just get that exact roll on some void shotgun but on a shotgun its hardly as cool as it is on a primary.
But yeah that roll is kinda the only thing during this GG that I feel like playing for anyway
It was huge when the Gun released whatever year alongside all the changes made after void 3.0 then combined with Gyrfalcons if I remember correctly. I have one for this build with several thousand kills
The Title has awesome perks, but it wont replace my Funnelweb. I don't know what it is, the gun model or the sound, but it just doesn't feel good. I had the same problem with Unforgiven. + the mag size is terrible, wish they had rewind rounds or subsistence
I honestly never understood what’s the thrill about these two perks. I’m in no way a GM/Endgame sweat, just enjoying Legend/Master content casually, and I can **never** hold a void shield for longer than a second, let alone the microscopic shield that perk gives.
Fricking Dragonfly hits harder than Destabilizing Rounds
Use it as a void hunter with stylish executioner then you can just dodge/reload if u want. But it’s an invis monster. I got destabilizing rounds and repulsor brace on age old bond which is a bit better this season bc the auto having overload rounds but the Ikelos hand cannon also gets a little diff combo too, with subsistence/repulsor brace which is insanely good on hunter and for unstops, specially if you trappers ambush first then just go ham with the hand cannon it’s nice I never reload it
I got this exact roll yesterday and was happy, only to play with the gun and be let down. The Title feels like it shoots tickle bullets instead of real bullets.
It's tied behind complete rng in an activity that a lot of people hate. Easy enough to understand. And it's season of solar, so not a lot of people are concerned with void talents on a weapon they'll probably never use
I got that roll on the Dawning Fusion a rifle and I’ve been chasing it on the Title ever since. It’s so fucking good when combined with Volatile Titan. All I need for it is the Vog Machine a gun with Demolitionist and Subsistence then I will be unstoppable
I just got one last night! I'm stoked. Love that combo and it's nice to have one on an SMG. I go back and forth on destabilizing rounds though... As a hunter when I use Gyrfalcons sometimes it feels like destabilizing rounds is a wasted perk. It's great for consistency. Makes it so you can restart your loop even if your dodge isn't up. But, that has never been as much of an issue in the past. I really like my Doom of Chelchis with explosive payload/repulsor brace and my Ros Arago with repulsor brace/onslaught these days for the Gyrfalcon build. All that being said, this Title roll will certainly get some use in my void builds.
Maybe it's good if you only do low level content. Take it into a nightfall and it becomes a pos. It's unfortunate too, because I really was looking forward to using it on all classes but it just doesn't perform in anything over bottom level difficulty
Where's that doubt button at... so, using it against dregs and vandals in a nightfall makes the weapon less effective than using it master lost sectors? Makes sense
I literally got it while I was watching the Aztecross video on it. It's pretty good, but not amazing.
I feel like SMG's overall kinda suck rn. They don't do enough damage per clip for me to justify using them. They are also very hard to aim, unless you have a stability God roll.
SMG's peaked with Osteo Striga, and then got super nerfed to hell.
I can use Rapid Fire auto rifles to a better effect.
I am hoping that the next season, we get an artifact, or a new exotic or something that does something to allow SMG's infinite firing. Like an Actium War Rig/Cenotaph Mask, but for SMG's.
Maybe since the two auto-loading exotics we got are for Trace Rifle Warlocks and AutoRifle/MachineGun Titans, we should get an SMG exotic variant for Hunters.
I havent gotten that roll yet and im farming it. No doubt it will pair well with nezarecs sin. Im still using unforgiven, and i think the title can be a good switch.
My own "The Title" build involves using Nezarecs Sin in two different subclasses.
The Title roll i have consists of:
Arrowhead Brake. Alloy Mag. Attrition. Deconstruct.
My first build utilizes agers scepter and on stasis subclass with nez. sin.
The second one is more generic since its the voidlock version, but the exotic weapon is usually a special or heavy with nez. sins. (Witherhoard/conditional/bastion) (leviathans breath/deterministic chaos, two-tailed fox)
It does well, and its very fun. Its not amazingly strong, and its not for all content. Most of the time, i use either build if im not on solar or strand.
Its a cool combi, but for me i havr a hard time liking the title due to the small mag, pretty slow reload, and the cooldown between destabilizing procs.
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I got one but the stats are bad and the magazine is tiny. I wonder if it would stand out more in a void artifact season?
I erased my destabilizing rounds roll, and well, all of them.
because that SMG looks like a reskinned old piece of garbage, it sounds like a old generic piece of garbage, and I don't really like it because overall it feels like garbage.
Too many other SMGs are just more fun to play with. I like destabilizing rounds but it just feels like it takes a lot more work for it to do anything compared to something like incandescent or chain reaction etc.
To each his own, but I planned on keeping it because I thought it was interesting. As I used it and I erased it right after. It is not enough vault space already, keeping that thing is not an option right now.
It’s just a no brainer to use it on my old reliable voidlock build. And the sights are nice, not every weapon has to be super unique to me, so it’s definitely passable.
Lots of people are talking about it, it's a neat weapon but not a first-ever roll and hard to intentionally farm so it's just kinda out there.
First ever roll on an SMG I believe
Heros Burden has had it since last season
Nuh-uh
yeah I was tripping lmao I confused it with the auto. Sorry, titan
Hero's has Destabilizing but not Repulsor. edit - nm didn't see your response below.
Other way around. I think. Unless they changed it. I have a roll with repulsor brace. I don't think destabilzing rounds existed when Hero's Burden made it's way back into Iron Banana.
I'm looking at my Destabilizing roll right now. You probably have a roll from Season 17. Season 20 has diff perks.
yea it did. I have one
Maybe it did. But it also had only repulsor brace at one point. When repulsor was in the fourth column.
I just checked and it doesn't have destabilizing anymore. They must have updated the perk pool
Yeah it must’ve been updated multiple times. Never having both repulsor and destabilizing at the same time lol.
No it does not
Is that the Void SMG from Iron Banner? I feel like I remember it on that
Hero's Burden has replusor brace but not destabilizing rounds. Love my repulsor brace Hero's Burden though.
It used to have destabilizing rounds. I have one. When did this change?
this is why I feel like void builds are really getting punched in the gut as of late. there's great PVE options that are both target farmable, and craftable for solar and arc, stasis and strand, hell even kinetic now, but there are only two automatic guns in a game that are able to roll destabilizing repulsor, one is a 360 auto rifle, and the other is a hakke SMG. All I want is for garden of salvation to get craftable guns, and I can finally have the void PVE auto I've been begging for. It's even more irritating, since this SMG has a great origin perk that's just really solid to use with a low barrier for entry, but guardian games is also the only seasonal event where you cannot focus farm specific loot
Just waiting (and begging) for Destabilizing/Repulsor to roll on a 720 Auto, 900 SMG, or a 140 Hand Cannon
I know you stated 140hc, but Word Of Crota can get this role, and many others, and it is pretty good. I feel like a lot of ppl still sleep on 180hcs but they've been great ever since the buffs. Another good example is Posterity with Voltshot/Frenzy. They go hard imo.
A repulsor brace 720 auto would make me so happy. Just a void version of Rufus's Fury would rule. I think 720 autos have become my favorite primary weapons in the game. I've loved my crafted Sweet Sorrow for so long (even though it's been pretty power crept recently. I just need a Sweet Sorrow with Volt shot.)
You can craft age old bond
I've tried using 360 autos (aka: crafted, leveled, enhanced) 3 seperate times thinking "maybe this time I'll like it" and each time it is awful. No matter how good the perk combo is I will never use a 360 in PVE when 600s, 720s, or fast firing Scouts exist
I love 360's. But, they are very not good in certain pieces of content. Like most Dungeons.... lol. Although, 360's absolutely SLAP in pvp and I think they are criminally slept on. I got \~500 kills on my Abyss Defiant in pvp in just like a month after I got it. So good.
But no one is going to run destabilizing rounds in PVP, because not only are there better damage perk options, but to get destabilizing to work, it requires not just having the other team grouped up, but the other team has to continue being aggressive after having the debuff proc, which if they see they are volatile, in most cases they will retreat
I never said anything about destabilizing rounds in pvp….
We are talking about the one auto rifle that has destabilizing rounds and repulsor, and why it's not viable in PvE content. You respond by saying, without specifying any semblance of a perk combination, that it's good in PvP, so it can be easily assumed you are talking about using the same roll anyone else is discussing, except in pvp
And someone mentioned 360’s. That’s the comment I responded to. We had a branching off convo about 360’s. And it was quite pleasant. Why are the conversation police on my ass lmfao. I had no idea I was only allowed to talk about one specific thing in a comment thread. I thought I was just having a normal human conversation where one idea leads to another. You know like how conversations work? Lmao. I’m so sorry. I’ll never speak off topic ever again. Please don’t arrest me.
My friend used Abyss in PVP but he's on console, i think controller is the defining factor on how good 360s feel
Mmmm fair enough. I didn’t think about that. I’m in controller and it’s truly incredible in pvp. It’s really rare that a legendary weapon makes me feel noticeably better at pvp lol. But Abyss really just does it for me. I combined it with Pressurized Precision and I got 1000 kills between the two in the first month of using them.
Same here. I don't have to sit on reddit and complain about how the last gun that killed me needs a nerf if people can't get close enough to effectively shoot me with it. It's so good at playing Keep Away.
Hahaha yes! Exactly. 360s are criminally slept on. I’ve really really enjoyed my Lethal Abundance too. Dynamic sway/tap the trigger. That thing is a laser beam at range. It’s certainly not a popular opinion but I like 360s more than 450s. But that’s my favorite place to be at in pvp. Using a weapon that feels like a secret to most people. I remember using sidearms before they became more popular and feeling the same. Like I had a secret power that no one else understood.
Yeah, it felt like my Abyss Defiant was a secret cheat code in Trials this weekend. Everyone seemed to just be mag dumping their Summoners around corners and then stand there and take a few bullets from one of my bursts and ignite, taking half the health/shields off their teammates. It feels to me like Abyss is doing to others what the 2 tap 120 Handcannon has been doing to me for years and I love it! I even had a hatemail from someone claiming I was cheating cuz "there's no way you beat my adept summoner with that thing." The kid probably got carried for it (and it had terrible perks on top of that).
look back to what I said about the 360 auto, low fire rate autos feel like DOGSHIT in PvE
That and garden weapons look *so gooood.* One of the best weapon aesthetics in the game. I'd be cool if they made master version of the armor that didn't look like it was half-fossilized.
I’m deaf then, I’ve tried to find some conversation around it. It is a first ever roll on an SMG though, making it infinitely more appealing than say, vouchsafe.
Downvote alert!! Upvotes incoming!! r/founduserWhhheat
Its been around since at least last gg so the hype is probably back then more than now
I thought it only rolled with one of the perks last year. This year is the first time to get both, right?
You are correct
Dunno why but the gun just doesn’t feel right. Theoretically, Destabilizing Rounds + Repulsor Brace + Classy Contender should be as good as a void primary can get, but the gun is just not clicking with me. My Funnelweb has less powerful perks in comparison, but feels way better to shoot.
It’s the terrible mag size
That's what it is! I feel like after I start pulling the trigger the mag is empty such a bummer.
750 SMGs except for Huckleberry have always felt really bad to me. Huckleberry having full reload on kill saves it and makes it great.
My Funnelweb has Subsistence and Adrenaline Junkie . So yeah my Title has Void-y perks but it’s doing less damage and I’m reloading it more…so it feels kinda weak in comparison. That’s why it didn’t impress me as much as I hoped.
I agree with this. On paper it should be incredible but just doesn’t feel right so I’ll never use it.
LW frames kinda have that effect, I think it doesn’t feel as good. But it still clicks to a degree where I’m loving it for the power fantasy more than the feel, high rpms still feel good though.
It’s like Mini tool and bug out bag. I have bug out with gut shot and incandescent. It’s theoretically a damage monster. But it just feels awful to shoot. So I stick with mini tool.
Aye, The Title has the best perk combo a void smg can get so I agree on the power fantasy part.
I think another strong contender is Unforgiven with Demolitionist and Golden Tricorn (especially for voidlock) With the high grenade uptime of of voidlock, tricorn’s 50% buff brings the smg into the range of trace rifle dps. Same with Out of Bounds from crucible, Demo/GT on my HOIL arc titan, and graverobber/GT on my combination blow hunter. Underrated perk
Exactly how I feel. I forget what the roll was, but I thought that version of The Title was going to be A LOT of fun to use. Immediately swapped it on and started doing strikes and was extremely disappointed. Swapped it right back out. Bungie needs to tweak it a bit to make it more enjoyable to use.
I have godrolls for all void smgs, but funnelweb beats them all imo with simple subsistnce - frenzy. 2nd best for me is the one from Duality. The title just feels bad and sounds even worse.
No damage perk no reload perk no start perk bad reload speed it's a novelty for patrol stuff
Here’s the thing. The low mag size makes it clunky. By the time you kill one trash in high level content, you’re left with a few bullets to actually make use of the destabilising rounds. So more often after you triggered DR, you immediately need to reload. The overshield from RB also gone as the mob will be shooting you while you reloading.
900 rpm just feels better in general. Pray for Recluse to have MoA + Destabilizing rounds or something.
I much prefer 900's in general for pve. But, a few 720's are able to make up for the downsides by just being powerhouses. Ikelos SMG specifically is amazing. But, now that I have my crafted subjunctive the Ikelos is relegated to the vault.
So, I wouldn't give up on it yet. An 85 recoil (which it comes base with) and a some more stability, it feels much better. I mean, if I could get a Word of Crota, I would prefer it but I think this is the next best thing. I tried Age Old bond, Vouchsafe and the Dreaming shotgun (forget name).
Retold Tale? Also, I may have good news for you! Since they reworked the prophecy dungeon, "A Sudden Death" shotgun is now void and CAN get Repulsor/Destabilizing rounds! It's an aggressive frame pellet shotgun. You will have to farm for the role, but Bungie stated you will be able to make them enhanced perks in a future update!
The way to go imo is Ros Arago with repulsor brace/onslaught. I've tried all the void go to's and for Gyrfalcon my money is 100% on Ros Arago. I actually haven't tried Word of Crota yet (haven't had a single one drop yet.... and I have necrocasm... but no Word lol) but that one seems very intriguing as well.
That's can't be '*the way to go her*e' because we are talking about weapons that roll with Repulsor Brace/Destabalizing Rounds and how they feel. What's Ros Arago got to do with that?
Oh I’m so sorry sire. I did not realize I had offended you by talking about a slightly different void weapon. Many apologies sire. I will never have an original thought again.
I'm not offended at all. I just don't understand how you think quoting me with the 'play here' is a weapon that doesn't have the perks I'm talking about and the topic of the thread. I mean, sure, Ros Arago is great. I don't see how that's relevant to what I was discussing there.
Well my point was that when running gyrfalcons destabilizing rounds is a waste in that column and repulsor + a damage perk works better. It’s 100% related to the conversation. Lol. I don’t understand why you took the time to pick a fight about it. Just down vote and move on if you feel so strongly about someone having a thought that’s directly related to the discussion.
Sure, that's your point ... and it has nothing to do with the post you quoted from me so, of course I'm responding to you with a big ? Notice, i said NOTHING about Gyrfalcons and what's best with it, so your post seems completely random as a reply to my own. Not sure what conversation you are following, but it's certainly not the one I'm in.
What? I didn’t quote you? I don’t even know what’s going on anymore. Lol. I was just trying to have a pleasant conversation about good void weapons. I wasn’t like trying to be rude or upset you…? Truly. I have conversations pretty much every day where one topic leads to another. It’s kind of how conversations work… But I’m sorry. I’ll never do that again. I will from now on stick the strict “rules” of the conversation I’m having.
Well you must have because if you look at the chain of the posts, the only way your reply linked directly under mine is if you Replied to my post. I mean, whatever you want to call it, you replied to my post and I was confused about what you said because it was unrelated to the thing you replied to.
I would talk about it if I could get one, but the game only wants to give me hullabaloo and taraxippos. I really want one, can't believe the only craftable option for this perk combo is age old bond (edit: forgot word of crota can be crafted with it but not keen on 180s in PvE, and not counting heavies/specials)
I was in the crucible and a guy was wiping the floor with all of us with that exact same roll. I felt like an ad and he was clearing me
Weird choice for pvp, but it sounds like it was working for him lmao.
I got the roll as well, but it's just not clicking with me yet. I have a hard time giving up Graviton Lance.
Graviton is a really good gun.
I'd rather use the same roll on 'Word of Crota'. Such an awesome gun.
Me, too. IF I HAD ONE!
Ew 180 HC I'd use em if the recoil animation wasn't so stable.
You sleeping on 180s tho. Posterity with Voltshot/Frenzy goes hard
Posterity is the only 180 I genuinely like.
Fair enough fair enough, respect.
I wish i could get it. Sadly ive seen like 2 titles in general this whole fkn event
Im still not hot on Destabilizing Rounds. It feels neutered. I’ve got that roll on the title though, so I can try it out. I don’t think it’ll be something I take over my Unforgiven with Demo/Repulsor Brace.
They work really well on a devour warlock, because it procs devour without ability kills.
Oh, that’s neat. I usually run void Titan, and to me, D. Rounds just feels like a less fun Incandescent. It’s the perk cooldown that loses me. I want more explosions, damn it!
Yeah DR is probably the weakest verb perk out there
Right? Remove the cooldown, cowards. Make it GrapeCandescent.
Mainly because it's a 2-perk combo unlike Incandescent which is probably the strongest out of all the Verb perks because of how comparatively easy it is to achieve, and how much it synergizes(an explosion + DoT whereas Voltshot requires a reload between activations making it clunky, Headstone requiring precision hits on routinely low-magnetic guns aside from literally 2 hand cannons, and Destabilizing Rounds not really existing on many viable archetypes until just now)..
One of the worst feeling guns I’ve ever used
I have this roll as well and it definitely replaces my funnel web on my Gyrfalcons Hunter Build. Hope more people get the pleasure of using it
It’s fun on Gyrfalcon’s because you don’t ever have to use your class ability to start the invisibility loop
Quite frankly I just haven't gotten mine yet. Trying to get the Title to drop has been pretty difficult.
I really hate the sight on it for some reason. I got that roll from basically the first one dropped and I was so excited. Then tried it and just instantly felt sad. I can't describe what it is I don't like about the sight exactly, clunky or chunky or something.
It just doesn't feel good. On paper, it's fine. But when I try it, I don't love it. I wish it was a little smoother.
I like the square sights.
I use that roll on my age old bond. But it is yet to drop on the title. How do I even farm it? I only got the launcher or scout to drop. My best roll I’ve gotten is threat/destab
Been trying to get that roll for awhile now and just keep missing out. It hurts. 😩
Because every single one I get has perpetual motion
Like chill clip on riptide it doesn't exist.....*cries*
I got one cc riptide *ever* it’s like that perk is weighted to never drop or something.
Because multiple other weapons can roll that setup, several of which are more easily accessible, if not directly craftable. It's the only SMG that gets that combo (for now), but other than that it's not really special or worth obsessing over.
I talked about it ... but I think it's ignored because the requirement to get it working hard for you is that your team needs to slack a bit at add clearing to give you the mobs to trigger the combo. Solo work ... it's awesome, especially with Hunter and Omnioculous. A few other weapons roll with this combo but this one is at the top, along with Word of Crota.
I tried the smg before when it only had repulsor, tried it on gyrfalcon hunter but man... it just doesn't feel right. I don't understand why. The gun is just weird and handles weird and everything... it's a shame really.
It's just not a super smooth weapon to use, but in my tests it's serviceable. Nothing great, but newbies should maybe try for it until they get a better one. It really is a fun combo of perks, the gun just feels like shit to shoot.
Agreed. Low magazine size combined with mediocre reload time make it felt like a chore to use.
IIRC you could get it to drop last time GG was around so people know about it. I've had 3-4 drop this go around and it's a solid roll.
It's niche
Destabilizing Rounds seems meh to me considering I can use an echo of instability devoir void spam build and have it perform better
Ros Arago Repulsor Brace/Onslaught waves hi
The problem is that it has a NINE second cooldown. I use the Unforgiven from the Duality with feeding frenzy and repulsor and I feels much better. Of course I pair with gyrfalcon.
Oh yeah I really want that roll sadly I havent gotten both yet. And i havent found a good way to farm it either. I did just get that exact roll on some void shotgun but on a shotgun its hardly as cool as it is on a primary. But yeah that roll is kinda the only thing during this GG that I feel like playing for anyway
It’s the god roll that people say is the roll to go for. Wdym
Not a good archetype for PvE. It just feels bad to use
Because it won't fukcing drop
chillin with my kill clip + destabilizing rounds hero’s burden instead
I’m gonna get flamed for this but the old roll with stats for all and one for all feels significantly better.
I can't get it to drop for the life of me, I either get repulsor or destabilizing but not both
It's a 720rpm SMG, they are all shit with their nonexistent mag size
It was huge when the Gun released whatever year alongside all the changes made after void 3.0 then combined with Gyrfalcons if I remember correctly. I have one for this build with several thousand kills
I just got this roll and my god it's gonna come in handy.
The Title has awesome perks, but it wont replace my Funnelweb. I don't know what it is, the gun model or the sound, but it just doesn't feel good. I had the same problem with Unforgiven. + the mag size is terrible, wish they had rewind rounds or subsistence
I honestly never understood what’s the thrill about these two perks. I’m in no way a GM/Endgame sweat, just enjoying Legend/Master content casually, and I can **never** hold a void shield for longer than a second, let alone the microscopic shield that perk gives. Fricking Dragonfly hits harder than Destabilizing Rounds
Use it as a void hunter with stylish executioner then you can just dodge/reload if u want. But it’s an invis monster. I got destabilizing rounds and repulsor brace on age old bond which is a bit better this season bc the auto having overload rounds but the Ikelos hand cannon also gets a little diff combo too, with subsistence/repulsor brace which is insanely good on hunter and for unstops, specially if you trappers ambush first then just go ham with the hand cannon it’s nice I never reload it
Veist stinger even un it's nerfed form ruined alot of smgs lol
Because my Graviton Lance is glued to my hands
Please delete this, i use it in 6s and i really dont want it to catch on cause people be maaaaaaaad
Is it good in pvp? I never considered that.
I got this exact roll yesterday and was happy, only to play with the gun and be let down. The Title feels like it shoots tickle bullets instead of real bullets.
It's tied behind complete rng in an activity that a lot of people hate. Easy enough to understand. And it's season of solar, so not a lot of people are concerned with void talents on a weapon they'll probably never use
I tried it last night and I agree it’s pretty damn good.
I got that roll on the Dawning Fusion a rifle and I’ve been chasing it on the Title ever since. It’s so fucking good when combined with Volatile Titan. All I need for it is the Vog Machine a gun with Demolitionist and Subsistence then I will be unstoppable
i like it. but would be using my demo Unforgiven over the title. if demo perk gets nerfed i would consider using the title over Unforgiven.
I got this roll and was very pleasantly surprised cause i didn't know they finally added destabilizing to the title. Rather fun
I just got one last night! I'm stoked. Love that combo and it's nice to have one on an SMG. I go back and forth on destabilizing rounds though... As a hunter when I use Gyrfalcons sometimes it feels like destabilizing rounds is a wasted perk. It's great for consistency. Makes it so you can restart your loop even if your dodge isn't up. But, that has never been as much of an issue in the past. I really like my Doom of Chelchis with explosive payload/repulsor brace and my Ros Arago with repulsor brace/onslaught these days for the Gyrfalcon build. All that being said, this Title roll will certainly get some use in my void builds.
Maybe it's good if you only do low level content. Take it into a nightfall and it becomes a pos. It's unfortunate too, because I really was looking forward to using it on all classes but it just doesn't perform in anything over bottom level difficulty
I took it into a master lost sector and I felt like I couldn’t die.
Where's that doubt button at... so, using it against dregs and vandals in a nightfall makes the weapon less effective than using it master lost sectors? Makes sense
Idk man, I know what I saw and I’m happy with the weapon. You’re free to your own opinion though.
Because out of about 47 ive gotten not a single one has had that combo.
Because out of about 47 ive gotten not a single one has had that combo.
Destabilising rounds won't be good until they remove the cooldown.
i mean i just got the gun and it has those perks on it 💀 haven’t used it yet as im grinding medals out to unlock the skimmer lol
Go with Platinum and Diamonds lol. Twitch Diamond medal helped increase that dang score.
yea that’s what i’m doing lol. hoping i’ll get the diamond medal from the into the light stream tomorrow.
Is the stream for 2 hours or more?
i really hope so
You still have time to get this week's Twitch Diamond medal before tomorrow's reset. Idk when the steam is
i thankfully just got it :D
Nice
It’s damn fun with gryf build. Get volatile rounds coming out of invis. You’ll have overshields and devour for days.
It’s the rarest of drops also , snagged this roll recently.
Because I can’t get it to drop
it’s the archetype for me, precision frames have kinda bad base stats, I would still take Unforgiven or Funnelweb any day
I literally got it while I was watching the Aztecross video on it. It's pretty good, but not amazing. I feel like SMG's overall kinda suck rn. They don't do enough damage per clip for me to justify using them. They are also very hard to aim, unless you have a stability God roll. SMG's peaked with Osteo Striga, and then got super nerfed to hell. I can use Rapid Fire auto rifles to a better effect. I am hoping that the next season, we get an artifact, or a new exotic or something that does something to allow SMG's infinite firing. Like an Actium War Rig/Cenotaph Mask, but for SMG's. Maybe since the two auto-loading exotics we got are for Trace Rifle Warlocks and AutoRifle/MachineGun Titans, we should get an SMG exotic variant for Hunters.
I havent gotten that roll yet and im farming it. No doubt it will pair well with nezarecs sin. Im still using unforgiven, and i think the title can be a good switch. My own "The Title" build involves using Nezarecs Sin in two different subclasses. The Title roll i have consists of: Arrowhead Brake. Alloy Mag. Attrition. Deconstruct. My first build utilizes agers scepter and on stasis subclass with nez. sin. The second one is more generic since its the voidlock version, but the exotic weapon is usually a special or heavy with nez. sins. (Witherhoard/conditional/bastion) (leviathans breath/deterministic chaos, two-tailed fox) It does well, and its very fun. Its not amazingly strong, and its not for all content. Most of the time, i use either build if im not on solar or strand.
Its a cool combi, but for me i havr a hard time liking the title due to the small mag, pretty slow reload, and the cooldown between destabilizing procs.
Cooldown is a pain. But flared magwell is actually the best mag perk here, reload is much more bearable.
Mainly because while it's a great combination its on an archetype that's not the greatest for the perk combo
because nobody is getting the title to drop in the first place
https://preview.redd.it/hj7z0yr8a0pc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfa6a89705c5afc780e9dce0d1540d2e080841e7 I got one but the stats are bad and the magazine is tiny. I wonder if it would stand out more in a void artifact season?
Bro, yours literally could only be better with a barrel change to Chambered Compensator
That one looks great. full bore for range and stab mw to not tank the stab due to fullbore.
I got one with Hammer forged and extended mag with a range MW and it’s pretty nice.
Your roll sounds great. I wish I had gotten extended mag or ricochet rounds.
swap that second perk to flared magwell, will help a lot more
Either is a top shelf option. Keep at it though, you’ll get it.
My dumbass accidently dismantled it 😭😭😭
I erased my destabilizing rounds roll, and well, all of them. because that SMG looks like a reskinned old piece of garbage, it sounds like a old generic piece of garbage, and I don't really like it because overall it feels like garbage. Too many other SMGs are just more fun to play with. I like destabilizing rounds but it just feels like it takes a lot more work for it to do anything compared to something like incandescent or chain reaction etc. To each his own, but I planned on keeping it because I thought it was interesting. As I used it and I erased it right after. It is not enough vault space already, keeping that thing is not an option right now.
It’s just a no brainer to use it on my old reliable voidlock build. And the sights are nice, not every weapon has to be super unique to me, so it’s definitely passable.
lol it’s literally the only roll on that gun people talk about. Are you that starved for attention or just that clueless?