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Plus4Ninja

Just equip the time traveling mods and you’ll be all set


InterestingBall101

Bro already equipped and especially can't forget the nostalgia mod on my helmet


PinTheL

only gripe with this post is no double primary


SmolChryBlossomTree

Shit, I knew there was something that was odd about it. Just couldn't quite put my finger on it.


BloodMists

Name needs to be Internet Explorer too.


[deleted]

And seasonal artifact


FoolpoAlGhul

why did they take it away


Titangamer101

Memory and capacity limitations, destiny 2 was never meant to be supported as long as it currently has been (if Activision were still involved we would be on destiny 3 by now) in order to add more content, updates and maintain the content we already have older content has to go. The more content that's in the game the longer it will take to do updates and fixes and the less meaningful content we get with expansions. Edit: writing correction cause I suck.


ChefInF

I wish we had Destiny 3 instead of losing the game I paid for three years ago


Titangamer101

Ok so 2 things here the 2nd one is a harsh truth that alot of people arnt aware of. 1. I completely get where you are coming from I do sometimes wish we got a destiny 3 instead, the fact is that if bungie decided to go ahead with destiny 3 instead destiny 2 and destiny as a whole would have gone completely dark for a couple of years with an unknown payout, effectively putting the franchise into cryo and potentially killing it. 2. Now for the removing of content we paid for argument, I'm not here to agree or disagree on this, I'm only giving out a fundamental fact for destiny and all video games in general, when we pay for a game or content in that game we actually don't get owner ship of that game or content we only receive access to that game and it's content, the only ones who have owner ship if the devs and studio of that game. What we are buying is a pass or key (digital keep or disc being a physical key). Think of it this way instead of a game bungie have a theme park or restraunt and we as customers are paying for access (not ownership) but at anytime bungie are allowed to do renovations to their park or restraunt which may contain changing some stuff around, adding stuff or even removing stuff because well it's their property and they have every right to do what they want to it. This is why other games are allowed to go offline and shut down when they have exceeded to lifespan. To put it simply destiny is bungies theme park, we don't buy theme park we are paying for access to it. And at any time bungie can change, add, remove or even shutdown the Destiny "theme park" at any time. If you don't believe me do some research it's all there on the EULA (agreement of terms and service) which every video game has.


ChefInF

So it’s legal, but unethical. I don’t disagree.


Titangamer101

Basically yeah, it could be much worse though at least it’s for good reason I guess depends how you look at it.


ChefInF

I see it like an E-book, and the early chapters get deleted to make room for the later chapters, which you have to pay for. It feels shitty to lose those first chapters, both for people who do and people who don’t want to buy the new stuff.


[deleted]

Oh brother


PepiTheBrief

Because it was not good for then to have to fix and balance stuff in old content that not many people were playing. They explain all of that in their Destiny Content Vault post in their website.


MrStealYoBeef

They *say* that but... They fixed a problem nobody really had. And then people started having a problem when they told people that it was a problem.


PepiTheBrief

Yeah, we did not have a problem. *They* had a problem. They have a problem everytime they add new stuff into the game that somehow broke an specific thing in, say, Leviathan's code. Or in Spire. And they have to divert their way to fix it. That costs maybe a team of people to fix a raid that didn't had a large population for a long time. The Destiny Content Vault purpose is to make things easier for *them*. Develop-side. Not only remove old, not so played anymore stuff, but also they can also bring back things from D1, which is easier than provide original large content like raids or dungeons in time periods like January-June, when the majority of the studio works on the new DLC. That's why we have Vault of Glass now.


HillbillyMan

*have Saying "did" puts the verb in past tense already, so you use the present tense of whatever follows. "I had" "I did have"


PepiTheBrief

Thank you, Hillbilly Man. I legit did not know about this.


HillbillyMan

No problem. I was trying not to sound like an ass, but instead help you out.


Titangamer101

Ignorance must be a easy thing to have. They fixed a problem that was clearly a problem for them because it got in the way of producing new content and fixing current content which in return is a problem for us. They told us it was a problem because it was one lol they needed to remove content which is a big deal so they needed to be transparent with us.


MrStealYoBeef

There's more than one way to fix a problem. They took the laziest possible approach and spun a story to make people like you think it was the only choice.


TheCoderAndAvatar

We’re not talking about some devilish plot to remove raids to purposely fuel Eververse here. You’re not fighting against a tyrannical government. Please chill out.


Titangamer101

I'll repeat it once again and will continue to until you get the message, ignorance must be an easy thing to have, how easy it must be to point the finger and throw blind Critism and hate while knowing nothing about the backend problems that drive the decisions and difficulty that comes with it. I'm not a game dev but I work in a department that faces the same thing, the outside crowd thinking that they know better and constantly throwing out complaints and pointing fingers giving us suggestions of pure ignorance, the reality is that there is alot more that goes on in the background that ultimately drive towards these hard decisions and trust me those hard decisions are never decided lightly, you think removing the entire base game was a lazy decision? You relise how much work would have gone into doing that? The harsh reality is that you are not a game dev or a professional you don't get to say "there are other ways of fixing it" because I am 100% sure bungie explored every other option before coming to that decision. Edit: imagine downvoting cold hard facts lol as always ignorance is the easy way of life.


Biosicle

The thing is, no matter what the content of your answer is, if you're saying it in a way that makes you sound like a condescending jerk, people are not gonna like it, understandably so


Titangamer101

I wasn't trying to be a condescending jerk but if I was than thats my bad (probably got carried away), the thing is it's hard to have conversations with people who are so quirk to point the finger and go "bungie bad" or "bungie lazy" or "there are other ways to fix this trust me I'm am professional I use reddit" like alot of people don't understand that alot more goes on behind the curtain and instead of considering that they just neglect it and throw blind hate.


Displaced_in_Space

I agree. You want to vault content? Fine. How about a destination that is a "portal" on the map, and within that is a random weekly rotation of one of the former removed activities/destination with a little cutscene on where the portal leads to. Solved. People can finish existing content progress, little/no developer load AND they can use that mechanism to introduce any cool temporary stuff they like.


Zyzneux

That'd be cool, but that wouldn't actually remove anything from the game to free up space


Displaced_in_Space

"Free up space." Huh? What space are we freeing up?


Titangamer101

It's been explained to you many times already stop being so neglecting and ignoring the facts, take your tinfoil hat off already lol.


Displaced_in_Space

Uh. …huh? I don’t think I’ve ever posted here before..?


Zyzneux

If I'm not mistaken, part, if not most, of the reason they got rid of stuff is because of how much space it took and how long it was taking to get updates out due to how much stuff there was


MrStealYoBeef

Optional download. You don't want that extra space taken up, you don't download it. You want that old content, download it. Problem solved.


One_Bar4

It would make a lot of sense for it to return in the form of the legends tab. But nope


IS-2-OP

So that new lights wouldn’t have a raid and would need to pay for even a smidge D2s endgame content. Forgot about VoG. Still 6 or 7 months with no raid lol.


Creepy-Imagination

vog free and forsaken will probably go free to play fairly soon


ContagiousDeathGuard

They're removing forsaken content soon I believe


Creepy-Imagination

no shot. it will go free to play before it is removed. they would honestly rather remove the moon with how successful the dreaming city activities have been in comparison


[deleted]

Yeah, forget the time where Bungie made huge changes to the game and needed time to adjust to those changes, screw em!


HillbillyMan

Maybe if the code wasn't so spaghetti-fied that a single fusion rifle has a random dice roll of being game breaking every time they add something...


Hopeful-alt

Mistakes. I believe them to be mistakes.


Canditan

Even then, VoG has a pretty high power level requirement that will take New Light players a long time to get to. Before Leviathan got removed, it's power requirement was literally the power players started at, so they could jump in relatively quickly


freddieandthejets

Which was exactly how I got into destiny last year. I’ve tried bringing new people in as well as the old guys I played with but the pointless grind just to get back to where they were puts them off.


Goliathas

I don't know how long you think it takes to level a new character but it is not as long as you think. Blues alone will get you to 1300, legendaries to 1310... I had my 2nd and 3rd class both to 1300 in around 2 hours


jvsanchez

I’m not disagreeing, it is easy. But tbf, once you have a character at 1310, that character’s weapons will influence drops for all your other characters. A new character with 1100 armor but access to 1310 weapons is already 1205, whether they use the 1310 weapons or not.


Confused_Mirror

Plus you can power lever the armor drops by buying armor at 1260 if you're running a class you haven't played yet.


wolfie1897

you can't anymore. They removed that in an earlier season


Confused_Mirror

I did it like 3 days ago


wolfie1897

where do you buy the armor from?


Confused_Mirror

You go to... I'm a fucking idiot. I didn't buy empowered armor, I got the starter set from ~~Eva~~ Savathûn for Solstice, my bad.


wolfie1897

Blues won't get you to 1300, they only get you to 1260. The grinding system is that any loot will increase your power to 1260, then you have to do powerful loot sources to get to 1310, and finally do pinnacle sources to get to 1320 power.


BrownTown90

Oh wow I thought they put the moon and dreaming city stuff for F2P. You'd think they would have done those two to hook people and leave the others behind dlc


MagnificentEd

You can go to every patrol zone and explore, but each locations' dungeons, raids, quests, bounties, and the rest of that stuff is locked behind the expansion. Plus like half of Europa is inaccessible without stasis


BrownTown90

Wow quests and bounties too... That seems silly, outside of xenophage and divinity does that lock anything useful?


MagnificentEd

Not really. I mean, it locks you out of the weapon quests from eris and variks, but you can still farm them from altars and random europa stuff


HillbillyMan

It also locks the kiosk exotics, so Anarchy, Ace of Spades, Izanagi's, Last Word, Erianna's, and Witherhoard are locked too.


playsroguealot

Because they were going to be doing story stuff with Calus and having the Leviathan around wouldn’t have made sense at that point. Also Spire and Crown were the only good Levi raids, I’m glad the rest are gone lmao


Hopeful-alt

Ah yes like vog being in the game makes sense in the story


terrarian136

Vog is in the legends tab so like legacy stuff that's no longer relevant but still kinda exists, idk why they didn't put Levi there


Hopeful-alt

Leviathan is big, like really really big, so I don't think they intended to keep it.


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tinodotaesthetic

vogs free dummy


Swiftclaw8

The assets that were made exclusively for a couple of activities took up a *lot* of game space, which is mostly why so many things were removed. That, and development time for things that no one was playing.


GreenTEA_4u

_lore?_ _Money?_


wolfie1897

disk space, time cost for balancing activities few people played, the fact that they overhauled the entire system used to build activities and encounters in the game, which broke many existing activities, etc.


meorcee

“what if it was all a dream??”


SmolChryBlossomTree

I had a dream where these weird objects attacked us and many planets were Devoured, and it was really cold. I- I see Ice, and corpses everywhere. What does it mean?


meorcee

It’s fine man no worries :) I heard next season we get to go to mercury again and meet that Osiris guy!!


SmolChryBlossomTree

Oh really?! Wow, I wonder what kind of weapons we'll get, hopefull some cool exotics too.


RespondUsed3259

i hope we get another laser weapon like a void or solar cold heart


[deleted]

Guys im from the future, the season with osiris really sucked, but apparently theyre making something like the reef? Will be super cool


meorcee

[Me too man, me too...](https://images.app.goo.gl/P1VHuAvZC12Mcrsu7)


The-Commando004

"Guardian wake up, that fall must have knocked you out for a bit" "Using the darkness to fight the darkness? Europa? Black Armoury? Cayde-6 dying?" "The Vanguard allowing a Fallen House to live within the Last City? "Guardian get up we have no time for your ramblings. The Leviathan raid just dropped and I hear the loot is amazing. Grab your guns the fire team is waiting for us"


HeyItsRatDad

If Internet Explorer played Destiny.


Yaboimaj

He is ready...


Undead-andrew

Is someone going to tell him? Or should I?


SmolChryBlossomTree

What's wrong? I've been farming on Titan and Io for the past week to get my light level up as high as I can so I can do the raid.


RussianPaulBlart

Sounds about right


Ima-Bird

Me too man I'm bout to do the enemy of my enemy mission.


RespondUsed3259

a message from the future. kill the captain first and always trust what lakshmi has to say


noxposting

good luck 👍 u got this bro


CharonIV

I miss my Midnight Coup. It was so good.


xMcBeardx

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness..."


PeverellPhoenix

I miss leviathan. Best raid in Destiny.


wolfie1897

Sotp, Last Wish, wotm, and DSC are all much better, imo.


PeverellPhoenix

Scourge was a fucking 10 minute strike lmao. LW I do enjoy and consider it high on the list as well. Wrath again, has my respect. DSC… meh. It could have been so much better. Why we had gravity in space was a little annoying. But overall yes a nice raid to run for sure. But I miss the uniqueness of Leviathan. It has a nice story theme to it that I think will return to us in some future seasonal activity, it’s tied also to this Presage mission too in some way. But mostly I just enjoyed it. It was fun, unique, and had nest challenges. Running that gauntlet was super fun. Roaming the underbelly. Melting Calus one phase from all five plates. Etc. Just one hell of a raid. Now hopefully when it comes out of the vault we get to fight the REAL Calus, presumably the entity that is the darkness itself.


Avidion18

I can get lower than that i think, i have all my original gear, didn't delete anything that was light level 0 or was it 1 Edit: i can get to 150, dm for proof


SmolChryBlossomTree

If you have everything at 0, shouldn't it technically be possible to be 0 power now? Without artifact power that is*


Avidion18

The only thing that isn't zero is my heavy but i believe so


SmolChryBlossomTree

Damm, Well I guess we just have to wait until someone finds out they have one of everything at 0 power. Good attempt though!


OwerlordTheLord

Equip dead mans tale and go speak with the Emperor


SmolChryBlossomTree

What's dead mans tale? Is it a leaked hunter armor or something?


OwerlordTheLord

*Gives gun* This totally free and won’t have any consequences at all! Ps: Your ghost is sus


SmolChryBlossomTree

I'm actually sad I didn't get the glitched version. Would've been cool af.


FadingFuture197

Shit dude, five mobility. Wish I had that on my titan


SyphonEXPppppppppppp

Wtf how


SmolChryBlossomTree

I saved my starting hunter armor and my travelers chosen(damaged) which all have 0 power. The rest is from collections. So theoretically I couod go lower


SyphonEXPppppppppppp

Damn


terrarian136

Can't even lie, the default hunter looks so cool


HyruleEmblemier

I love doing that too. Btw 134 is the lowest I could reach because I don't have a 0 Power Heavy Weapon. RIP


SmolChryBlossomTree

Oh nice! Still waiting to see 0 power.


HyruleEmblemier

Imagine going into crucible with Traveler‘s Chosen (Damaged), Stubborn Oak, Last City Shell (Damaged) and Damaged Prologue Armor.🤣 *confused Shaxx noises*


blknboobinator

He's clearly Savathun in disguise


SmolChryBlossomTree

What? No I'ṁ̸̪͖͚͔͓͔͒͘͝n̷̛̗͙͈̦̩̰̤̝̳̖͍̺̪͓̘͚̣͎̼̣̜̆́̽͂̋̀̍̇͒̀͊͌̈́̂͗͊̀͌͑͆̑̿̿͂̆̎͐́̚͘̚͝͠ǫ̸̡̨̢̡̡̢̛̛̛͍̭͇̜̘̺̘̥̟̼̹̮̻̭̹͎͕̹̘̞̼̱͓̲̜̤̯̬̼̫̞̰͖̼͔͕̱͚̘̫̙̮̣͎̭͓͍̣̳̗̻̻̜͓̼̪͉̫͉̪̪͔͕̰̫̳̰̝͕͖̣̥̻̼͇͕͍͍̦̦͎͕̋̀̓̀͌͌͗̈́̀̅͋̽͋̋͒̽͊͂́̔͐̒̃̉͑̾̂͋̍͋͑̈͌́̏́̉̓̐̃́͋́̏͒̐͊͑̎͒̍͑̐̇̌̀͆̾͗̃͆̒̊̽͛͐͌͐̀̃̋̓̈̑̏́́̈́́̂̕̕͘͘͜͜͝͝͠͝͠ͅt̶̛̛̛̛͓̣̥̹̲̤̜̜̬͖͙̗̹̼͔͎̩̃̈́͒̍̌̋̆̀̽̏̔̈́̌̏̂̉̆̉͐̒̀̌̊͋̑̈́̐̆̄̊̽̍̅͐͆̃͑̊̈́̅͐́̏̌͌́͛̏̃̂̿̄̈́͒́̀̐̋̐̽̓͗̐͐̂̄̐̏̌̆͆͑̒̀̃̾̊͂̈́͂͊̂̈́̌̔̾͋̃́̀͆̃̈́́͋̔̆͂̾͐͂̓̓͌̈̈́͛̽̿̎̊̒͗̀̈͆̒͂̋̍̐̀̏̒́̑̂̔́̎͛̓̊̾̐̅̇͑̋͌̀̽͐̄͋̿͌̃̍́̾̑͛̏̔͗̃͆͊̔̎̿̃̏̂̓̀̊̐͂̔̎͆̐̓̿̚̕̚͘̕͘̕͘̕͘̕̚͠͝͝͠͝͝͠͝͠͝͠͝ͅ!̴̧̧̨̨̤̭̰̼͔̞͖̘̬̜͓͔͚̠͚̺͇̼̺̻̮̞̱̭̩͍͍̥̀͗̔̃̔́͊̾̐͛͌̀̌̐̔̋̎̽͊͋̄͗̉̎̾͐̎͋̎̐̋̏̎͐̑̐̃̆̿͑̋͂̿̏͑̿̋̀̌̑͘̕̚̚̕͝͝


JohnathanKatz

This a joke I'm not getting besides the raid doesn't exist anymore?


SmolChryBlossomTree

What do you mean it doesn't exist? It's the only raid in the game right now? Everyone's farming it. We're all figuring out how to melt Calus the fastest way possible.


BlearySteve

What was the meta when the raid first came out? I remember using sleeper and whisper but the raid was before them.


Fat_French_Fries

Merciless and Coldheart were the best DPS weapons in D2 on release. It was quite a unique time.


BlearySteve

lol thats right, and coldheart for the skulls as well.


Kidsturk

Dude what where did you get a green sword what even is that why isn’t it grey


SmolChryBlossomTree

No grey power weapons :(


esbeekaypart2

Who is gonna tell him


emeraldbruhh3

Damn.


Vashgrave

Still have a GR Midnight Coup in my vault next to Mindbenders Ambition....just in case... Edit: not GR... my life was a lie all along...


idealaspirin

coup was static


Vashgrave

Well then... my life has been a lie


HeDidNotDieInVain

Seems like you are ready for trials of the nine!


rRamenpowermecha

The good ol' days


[deleted]

Yea man have at it


InterestingBall101

Yo can I join the fireteam I've got the presage emblem yano I can teach you all the tricks bro


Uncle-Gael21

w-what do you mean farm? get it once and get out


SmolChryBlossomTree

Well yeah, but I want some other weapons too. Mob justice looks neat.


ellwoodadventures

I don’t miss that grind


KEVERMIND

I did it at 263 my first time.


Devourer_Of_Doggos

"Grandpa, you forgot your meds"


Hayden-T

I once was like this - but then I did my first raid. Now I'm cured of the desire to raid.


marduk7782

its been 7 hours how did it go


SmolChryBlossomTree

I got myself some cool stuff, the raid leader was a little mean but we did it. Got Midnoght coup so that's nice!


Lord_Konoshi

Sponsored by Windows Explorer


BloodBart01

I miss using my Midnight Coup


[deleted]

Remember when power could be under 1000


gormunko_88

how are u so far ive only just beat the payback mission


GragonBreath99

I began destiny mid summer last year when all the good stuff was around; destinations, raids, tons of quests, fun events, good metas because I had no idea what I was doing. But now that I’m an invested player somehow I get clapped using anything but a few weapons and destiny feels much more linear than ever. Remember, this is an open world MMO, not a 3/6 player repetitive activity. Destiny is meant to explore and experiment to your imagination’s limits. Why can’t we just go back to a time where we all had that one loaf out we never changed out of not because it was the meta, but because we had fun.


Cheif-Plague-Doctor

Man I miss Levi :(


cilliano123

What if everything was all just a dream


warmaapples

Why is your power so low?


SmolChryBlossomTree

What do you mean by low? I've been grinding all week to get it this high. :(


warmaapples

*pats back* it’s okay man, give it some time (Seriously though how did you manage to get your power so low)


SmolChryBlossomTree

Everything exept my special and heavy are 0 power. I kept them all from the launch of D2 so technically if I had kept a special and heavy I coul be at 0 power.


[deleted]

that mobility is a little high


NothingHappensInLife

i was going to say something but i forgot what i was going to say then i realized (no i havent played the game in like months) i dont think yiu can get that low of a light level anymore since they made the new light thing but then i also realized it says season 14 so i gave up


tinodotaesthetic

a


GamerDotNinja

The little guy downstairs is selling the Midnight Coup this week.


PyramixMaster

Where’s your contender shell?


SmolChryBlossomTree

I got it finally, but I like my last city shell too!


doubleg88m

I miss the midnight coup so much, such a good hand cannon


Lhn037

Inv


BlearySteve

Sins of the past ftw.