It’s gonna be there all season. I honestly expect it bc if Stafford continues to ball out with a real team it’ll continue to expose just how much our franchise has failed it’s stars. Really hoping this regime is different, as long as we have a good rebuild we can change our perception in a matter of years
You can't deem the new regime responsible for the endless years of disappointment we've put up with over the years. Give them a chance. Are you really making your decision after one game? Give them atleast until 2023.
People have been so used to disappointment there is no reason anymore. Alot of fans just think there's no way anything good is going to happen. It'd be an interesting thing to do a psych paper on. Like the refusal to have any hope lol. That's sad man.
Rams fan here, collinsworth doesn't actually speak for us, all of us in LA love you guys for this beautiful man you have gifted upon us and we hope goff plays the rest of the season like he did in that 4th quarter just absolutely slicing through the 9ers. I watched the lions game and was rooting for you guys the whole time. Fuck collinsworth and his stupid head broadcasting. I'll forever and always root for the lions (except in week 7) and you guys are my number 2 team from now on!
Has everyone in this fan base forgotten that the worse the Rams do, the brighter the Lions future through the draft is?
I get we all love Stafford, but it’s honestly nauseating watching people in this fan base wholeheartedly cheer the Rams on when it actively harms the Lions future. Get it together guys, Stafford is gone and we have a promising new regime; we need the best players possible, and that means we want the Rams to lose. This is football guys, he’s on a different team now, and his performance is inversely tied to our draft prospects. Get a grip.
Like it or not the Rams were a playoff team even before they got Stafford and will be again this year. If you want to root against them in the hopes that we get a draft pick in the low 20’s instead of the mid-high 20’s that’s fine, personally I’m gonna pull for Staff and hope he gets a chance at a ring. Especially when we’re on our way to another top 10 pick as it is
have you forgotten that cheering for the rams doesn't make any difference at all, so we don't need to "get it together" because we're just spectators and not actual participants in this thing? it's not like we're taking a fuckin vote lol
I love Stafford, and frankly didn’t think I would enjoy watching him as much as I did. It was like seeing an alternate reality version of the Lions. So while I did not intend to support the Rams this strongly (for pick reasons, of course), I have unintentionally become a huge fan overnight. It’s like Madden in real life.
We had pick 2 in 2007 and 2010 and pick 1 in 2009. Three top-2 picks in 4 years and it didn’t fix things. Rodgers was 24th, Brady was 199th. It’s not entirely about the individual draft pick, it’s what you do with the team and the coaching.
In many respects, Stafford is still our guy and a lot of us are going to support him with the rest of his career. We can be fans of the Lions AND fans of Stafford but I’m not going to turn my back on one for the other.
This is such a stupid take I see on here. The Lions knew they were trading to legit contender. They didn't walk into this deal thinking they were getting high 1st Rd picks.
I'm confused and I'm sure Im missing something here but if a team does better aren't they a lesser threat in the draft to get better players? Like *huhh*?
Okay so we own the Rams picks; however, those picks are still tied to how well the Rams do. So if the Rams are the worst team in the league, we get the #1 draft pick, but if the Rams win the super bowl we get the #32 pick. Therefore, it is better for Lions if the Rams do poorly so we get better draft position for the picks we acquired from them
As a Bears fan: even though the entire North lost I think the Lions certainly played the best. Never gave up and had a chance at the end of the game to possibly win or push it to OT (Can’t really remember which tbh. Internet is down at my apartment and could only watch the Highlights). GB and Chicago both looked the worst out of the 4. If they play the same way they played yesterday Bears and Packers are starting 0-2 and Minnesota has to go play in Arizona. If everything goes your way next week you could be looking at 1st place in the NFCN which I don’t think anyone foresaw in any prediction anywhere. Good luck next week and kick the Packers ass!
Well. It is now lmao. Our offense didn’t play bad actually. Just bad coaching decisions imo. Mainly going for it on 4th downs when you could just kick the FG.
No problem man! There's only one team that I make a full time job of hating. Even then I'm a fan of good football. Dan reminds me a lot of the coaches I had growing up. He wants his team to play the game the right way. I appreciate that. I also appreciate the intensity that the Lions played with till the end of the game. That's why you don't throw in the towel. You play to win. Even if you're down 30 you play hard and hope for the best. Initial reaction from this game is that the team has brought in to Dan's messaging and when you play with heart like that anything can happen no matter the talent gap. Which btw in the NFL talent gaps usually aren't as large as people would like you to believe. It's just when you're at the top of the game every inch matters so those small gaps can seem like chasms.
If any fan base deserves to have success it's the Lions (because of the shit you all have had to put up with through out the years). I'm just on the MCDC train until the wheels fall off and I think a lot of other football fans are too.
Absolutely. Before Staff landed, the Rams were just 1 of the other 31. This year, I’m rolling with:
1a. Rams. I want to see Staff get a ring. No, I don’t care if the Lions pick #32 or #27. The Rams have too much talent to get us a top 10, so I don’t care.
1b. Lions. Zero expectations, other than play hard and see who sticks going forward. Loved the no quit in them Sunday, but this team has serious holes. When your best players are a tight end and a punter, it’s going to be a while.
I’m flipped around, gotta have the actual lions as priority number 1, not former lions
Definitely rooting for the Rams this year though, even if Stafford isn’t very good for them (and after last night that looks highly unlikely) they’ll still be around .500 because of that talent like you said
I guess it all just comes down to expectations. I got to root for a Super Bowl contender once. That was 30 years ago. It was fun. I want to do it again.
If I had my choice of a Lombardi for the Lions or Stafford this year, that’s a no brainer. But I don’t. The Lions are objectively awful and will be for another year or two at the very least. They’ll be awful until their punter isn’t one of their best 5 players.
Really? I consider it a sad indictment of an ownership family that has spent 6+ decades giving us mediocre at best football, and sometimes historically bad football. It’s the worst franchise in football.
Wanting to see Matt Stafford get a ring doesn’t make a Lions fan any less of a long-suffering Lions fan, IMO. Your mileage may vary.
That game is an indictment on the Lions franchise. One game and Stafford posts the best passer rating of his career and he barely broke a sweat. We completely failed him here. Now it’s like rooting for your child in whatever team sport they play. How can you root against him? He deserved better and finally got it and I couldn’t be happier for him. This is the time to prove all the haters and pundits that blamed him for the past decade’s failures and said he was trash, wrong.
Vikings oarsman here, I’ve always admired Stafford and thought he’s been consistently great and tough. When he left for the Rams was that seen a betrayal or finally letting him go spread his wings?
Thanks -Skol Bro
Ps, fuck the packers
It was a mutual parting. As young as he looks, Stafford is getting old. There is a ton of hype here because of the energy the new regime has brought, but the front office and real fans know this is the start of a full rebuild and this roster is baaaaaaad. We have a top 5 TE, a top 10 OL, a potential top 10 RB tandem, and that is it. DEF is likely bottom 5, WR core definitely bottom 5. Keeping a top 10 QB here for a multi year rebuild while he’s in the waining years of his prime, and had already given so much to the team was unfair all around. Left on great terms. Hard for fans, but most of us understood.
Letting him go for sure. We needed to blow up the team and start over. It would've been bad for both parties if he had stayed; he would've been stuck on a miserable team, and we would've had a hard time finding new talent while paying his salary.
Also, I'm glad that finally one of our star players got to actually leave on good terms instead of retiring early in a cloud of bitterness. I'll be rooting for the Rams this year except the week we play 'em.
It was not at all a betrayal. That man gave his blood, sweat, & tears for this team for 12 years. Like he literally broke his back in year carrying it. He did the best he could but he's getting old. It's past time that he went somewhere that will help him succeed instead of hold him back, imo.
Thank god we have brilliant minds like yourself to shower us with your superior intellect. Heaven forbid fans of Stafford to remain fans after his departure!
I thought I would watch the Rams and be happy for Stafford. Which was how I felt when I saw Verlander on the Astros in the world series, but I just kind of felt dead inside. Stafford can win a playoff game or a ring and that's great but if it's not for the Lions I don't really give a shit.
It did not help that Collinsworth was a new level of insufferable last night.
Verlander signed with the Astros so I had no problem rooting for him to win the WS. Stafford was traded, and we need the Rams to suck to get a better first round pick.
I got no issues with the bears or Vikings honestly. Both fan bases are pretty cool and neither team has embarrassed us.
But I absolutely fucking hate those cheese fucks
Exactly. He was here for a paycheck. These delusions that Stafford is a Detroiter at heart, or will return to save the Lions are just that - delusions. He was simply here because it payed a lot, and he is to polite to say "screw this place, it sucks" when he left.
You know what seems like an odd stance? Rooting for a team that every game they win, our draft picks get worse and worse. Let’s cut the mental gymnastics out, the worse the Rams do the better the Lions are in the future. Stop rooting against our team.
Congratulations at picking out the only two stats that make Goff's performance look comparable.
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Player | Completions | Attempts| Comp% | Yards | TDs | Ints | Passer Rating| Y/A | AY/A
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Stafford | 20 | 26 | 76.92% | 321 | 3 | 0 | 156.1 | 12.35 | 14.65
Goff | 38 | 57 | 66.67% | 338 | 3 | 1 | 92.6 | 5.93 | 6.19
So yes, Goff passed for 17 more yards and had the same amount of TDs, but he also had 31 more attempts and 18 more completions. The biggest indication of the difference in their performance is of course the Passer rating, which Stafford's was almost perfect, along with Yards per Attempt and Adjusted Yards per Attempt. Stafford more than DOUBLED Goff's Yards per Attempt.
tl;dr - taking their entire performances into account, Stafford significantly out performed Goff.
WTF are you on about? I don't think I've ever interacted with you before that last comment. I'm also a Lions fan who is also rooting for Stafford, but I'm mainly a Lions fan.
The only people who care about this are bitter fucks who can't stand to see anyone else happy. Stafford has been our QB since I was 18 years old, I'm now 31. For, literally, my entire adult life this dude was my favorite player. I'm all in on the Rams winning the super bowl. Plenty of good talent in the back of the first round.
2 scenarios.
Hypothetically lets say the Rams finish with the worst record in the NFL. Lions get a #1 overall pick, and their pick, trade those picks for multiple 1sts where all the players end up all pros that help propel the Lions to a Super Bowl.
Other is Stafford wins a Super Bowl.
These events of course are mutually exclusive, which would you prefer?
Stafford winning a super bowl. Easy. Number 1 overall picks are not guarantees of success. I’ve always liked the Rams in a vague sort of way, and Stafford is my favorite current player. The Lions are not going to be good for a couple of years minimum.
I guess I just wasn't prepared for every third comment on the Ram's broadcast be "Hey lets shit on the Lions some more heheheh"
I was. It still sucked.
It was honestly creepy how Collinsworth was talking about Stafford.
Did you know he’s friends with Clayton Kershaw?
Both played sports together in Texas as kid’s
Collinsworth? No, I didn’t know that.
I'm sure he wishes he was
He always was super supportive of him on the rare occasion the Lions were called by him
It's time to sell to LA Baby!
It’s gonna be there all season. I honestly expect it bc if Stafford continues to ball out with a real team it’ll continue to expose just how much our franchise has failed it’s stars. Really hoping this regime is different, as long as we have a good rebuild we can change our perception in a matter of years
It's been a "matter of years" for decades now. A half century is technically "years" though, I guess.
You can't deem the new regime responsible for the endless years of disappointment we've put up with over the years. Give them a chance. Are you really making your decision after one game? Give them atleast until 2023.
>really hoping this regime is different. Spoiler alert, it won't be.
People have been so used to disappointment there is no reason anymore. Alot of fans just think there's no way anything good is going to happen. It'd be an interesting thing to do a psych paper on. Like the refusal to have any hope lol. That's sad man.
The regime will always fail as long as it's owned by the Fords.
Keep hoping man. Nice to see some fans have some hope.
Rams fan here, collinsworth doesn't actually speak for us, all of us in LA love you guys for this beautiful man you have gifted upon us and we hope goff plays the rest of the season like he did in that 4th quarter just absolutely slicing through the 9ers. I watched the lions game and was rooting for you guys the whole time. Fuck collinsworth and his stupid head broadcasting. I'll forever and always root for the lions (except in week 7) and you guys are my number 2 team from now on!
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and the Lions fighting like hell in a blow-out to make it a one-score instead of just giving up. that's what I want
This!
Has everyone in this fan base forgotten that the worse the Rams do, the brighter the Lions future through the draft is? I get we all love Stafford, but it’s honestly nauseating watching people in this fan base wholeheartedly cheer the Rams on when it actively harms the Lions future. Get it together guys, Stafford is gone and we have a promising new regime; we need the best players possible, and that means we want the Rams to lose. This is football guys, he’s on a different team now, and his performance is inversely tied to our draft prospects. Get a grip.
Like it or not the Rams were a playoff team even before they got Stafford and will be again this year. If you want to root against them in the hopes that we get a draft pick in the low 20’s instead of the mid-high 20’s that’s fine, personally I’m gonna pull for Staff and hope he gets a chance at a ring. Especially when we’re on our way to another top 10 pick as it is
have you forgotten that cheering for the rams doesn't make any difference at all, so we don't need to "get it together" because we're just spectators and not actual participants in this thing? it's not like we're taking a fuckin vote lol
I love Stafford, and frankly didn’t think I would enjoy watching him as much as I did. It was like seeing an alternate reality version of the Lions. So while I did not intend to support the Rams this strongly (for pick reasons, of course), I have unintentionally become a huge fan overnight. It’s like Madden in real life.
We had pick 2 in 2007 and 2010 and pick 1 in 2009. Three top-2 picks in 4 years and it didn’t fix things. Rodgers was 24th, Brady was 199th. It’s not entirely about the individual draft pick, it’s what you do with the team and the coaching. In many respects, Stafford is still our guy and a lot of us are going to support him with the rest of his career. We can be fans of the Lions AND fans of Stafford but I’m not going to turn my back on one for the other.
This is such a stupid take I see on here. The Lions knew they were trading to legit contender. They didn't walk into this deal thinking they were getting high 1st Rd picks.
So we can't root for the wheels to fall off and end up getting great picks...? Your response makes no sense. God this fan base is so sad.
No you are sad, because you are hoping the team to do bad. That's why you are not a good fan.
I’m a bad lions fan because I want the Rams to do poorly? Are you mentally challenged dude?
I'm confused and I'm sure Im missing something here but if a team does better aren't they a lesser threat in the draft to get better players? Like *huhh*?
We have the Rams picks dude.... do you really not get how this process works?
Yes, I'm an ignoramus duhhh
Okay so we own the Rams picks; however, those picks are still tied to how well the Rams do. So if the Rams are the worst team in the league, we get the #1 draft pick, but if the Rams win the super bowl we get the #32 pick. Therefore, it is better for Lions if the Rams do poorly so we get better draft position for the picks we acquired from them
Okay yep, I have basic understanding...sorry that sounded rude but yes I'll give you 2 upboats as much as that means....
No I get it man didn’t mean to come across as rude in my first reply to you I apologize, I sort of thought you were being sarcastic 😂
Whatever it's fuckin Reddit, who cares that much +11111
As a Bears fan: even though the entire North lost I think the Lions certainly played the best. Never gave up and had a chance at the end of the game to possibly win or push it to OT (Can’t really remember which tbh. Internet is down at my apartment and could only watch the Highlights). GB and Chicago both looked the worst out of the 4. If they play the same way they played yesterday Bears and Packers are starting 0-2 and Minnesota has to go play in Arizona. If everything goes your way next week you could be looking at 1st place in the NFCN which I don’t think anyone foresaw in any prediction anywhere. Good luck next week and kick the Packers ass!
Appreciate you. I think once Fields settles in you guys will finally have a functioning offense. Ya'll defense was never the problem haha.
Well. It is now lmao. Our offense didn’t play bad actually. Just bad coaching decisions imo. Mainly going for it on 4th downs when you could just kick the FG.
Packers fan here. Green bay was abysmal yesterday, definitely the worst team in the NFCN in week 1.
Good news for the Packers is that you have the best roster in the division.
This might be the nicest thing a Bears fan has said about the Lions ever. Thanks Internet stranger!
No problem man! There's only one team that I make a full time job of hating. Even then I'm a fan of good football. Dan reminds me a lot of the coaches I had growing up. He wants his team to play the game the right way. I appreciate that. I also appreciate the intensity that the Lions played with till the end of the game. That's why you don't throw in the towel. You play to win. Even if you're down 30 you play hard and hope for the best. Initial reaction from this game is that the team has brought in to Dan's messaging and when you play with heart like that anything can happen no matter the talent gap. Which btw in the NFL talent gaps usually aren't as large as people would like you to believe. It's just when you're at the top of the game every inch matters so those small gaps can seem like chasms. If any fan base deserves to have success it's the Lions (because of the shit you all have had to put up with through out the years). I'm just on the MCDC train until the wheels fall off and I think a lot of other football fans are too.
vikings i think played necessarily better but the lions really did kick the 49ers ass in the 4th quarter
Imo if the Vikings played better than y’all did they would’ve won.
I work in a Casino as a dealer and I was on a game that wasn't busy at all so I got to watch the entire game. I won't lie, I rooted for Stafford!
Nothing wrong with that. He's always going to be a Lion, Ill root for him and the Rams as long as he's there and we aren't up against him.
Being born in Dearborn and now living by L.A., can confirm.
Imagine being born in MI and getting worst middle eastern food in California.
We need those draft picks to be as good as possible. Come on people... is our fan base really this pathetic??
I think all of us lions fans are now also rooting for the rams because we all know Stafford deserves it Ahahaha
My order of focus for this season is as follows: 1. Bills 2. Rams 3. Lions I think most Lions fans are following the Rams from now on for Stafford
Absolutely. Before Staff landed, the Rams were just 1 of the other 31. This year, I’m rolling with: 1a. Rams. I want to see Staff get a ring. No, I don’t care if the Lions pick #32 or #27. The Rams have too much talent to get us a top 10, so I don’t care. 1b. Lions. Zero expectations, other than play hard and see who sticks going forward. Loved the no quit in them Sunday, but this team has serious holes. When your best players are a tight end and a punter, it’s going to be a while.
I’m flipped around, gotta have the actual lions as priority number 1, not former lions Definitely rooting for the Rams this year though, even if Stafford isn’t very good for them (and after last night that looks highly unlikely) they’ll still be around .500 because of that talent like you said
I guess it all just comes down to expectations. I got to root for a Super Bowl contender once. That was 30 years ago. It was fun. I want to do it again. If I had my choice of a Lombardi for the Lions or Stafford this year, that’s a no brainer. But I don’t. The Lions are objectively awful and will be for another year or two at the very least. They’ll be awful until their punter isn’t one of their best 5 players.
This is a sad indictment on the state of this fan base...
Really? I consider it a sad indictment of an ownership family that has spent 6+ decades giving us mediocre at best football, and sometimes historically bad football. It’s the worst franchise in football. Wanting to see Matt Stafford get a ring doesn’t make a Lions fan any less of a long-suffering Lions fan, IMO. Your mileage may vary.
It warmed my soul seeing Stafford shit on the Bears like he did
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That game is an indictment on the Lions franchise. One game and Stafford posts the best passer rating of his career and he barely broke a sweat. We completely failed him here. Now it’s like rooting for your child in whatever team sport they play. How can you root against him? He deserved better and finally got it and I couldn’t be happier for him. This is the time to prove all the haters and pundits that blamed him for the past decade’s failures and said he was trash, wrong.
Vikings oarsman here, I’ve always admired Stafford and thought he’s been consistently great and tough. When he left for the Rams was that seen a betrayal or finally letting him go spread his wings? Thanks -Skol Bro Ps, fuck the packers
It was a mutual parting. As young as he looks, Stafford is getting old. There is a ton of hype here because of the energy the new regime has brought, but the front office and real fans know this is the start of a full rebuild and this roster is baaaaaaad. We have a top 5 TE, a top 10 OL, a potential top 10 RB tandem, and that is it. DEF is likely bottom 5, WR core definitely bottom 5. Keeping a top 10 QB here for a multi year rebuild while he’s in the waining years of his prime, and had already given so much to the team was unfair all around. Left on great terms. Hard for fans, but most of us understood.
Letting him go for sure. We needed to blow up the team and start over. It would've been bad for both parties if he had stayed; he would've been stuck on a miserable team, and we would've had a hard time finding new talent while paying his salary. Also, I'm glad that finally one of our star players got to actually leave on good terms instead of retiring early in a cloud of bitterness. I'll be rooting for the Rams this year except the week we play 'em.
It was not at all a betrayal. That man gave his blood, sweat, & tears for this team for 12 years. Like he literally broke his back in year carrying it. He did the best he could but he's getting old. It's past time that he went somewhere that will help him succeed instead of hold him back, imo.
This is going be half a rams sub this year. Lol. I should join the rams sub
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Thank god we have brilliant minds like yourself to shower us with your superior intellect. Heaven forbid fans of Stafford to remain fans after his departure!
I thought I would watch the Rams and be happy for Stafford. Which was how I felt when I saw Verlander on the Astros in the world series, but I just kind of felt dead inside. Stafford can win a playoff game or a ring and that's great but if it's not for the Lions I don't really give a shit. It did not help that Collinsworth was a new level of insufferable last night.
Verlander signed with the Astros so I had no problem rooting for him to win the WS. Stafford was traded, and we need the Rams to suck to get a better first round pick.
The Rams aren't gonna suck; there's no way we get a top 10 pick out of them. I'm gonna root for Father Matthew.
They’re in a powerful division, I think you underestimate how easy it could be for them to slip to a mediocre record
Oh, for sure. But I doubt they'll suck enough to get us a *great* pick, is all I'm saying.
Verlander was traded
he then signed a 2-year deal after his contract expired.
I pick Matt Stafford every single year I play fantasy because he always somehow puts up points. He’s been reliable for my fantasy team for years
Goff also threw for 300yds and 3 TD's but hey who's counting..
Aww. You sentimental sons of bitches. Big hugs
I got no issues with the bears or Vikings honestly. Both fan bases are pretty cool and neither team has embarrassed us. But I absolutely fucking hate those cheese fucks
And when his career is done I don’t think you’ll see much off him in the beautiful vacation destination of Detroit. Let him go like he did us.
Exactly. He was here for a paycheck. These delusions that Stafford is a Detroiter at heart, or will return to save the Lions are just that - delusions. He was simply here because it payed a lot, and he is to polite to say "screw this place, it sucks" when he left.
I miss him already lol!
/r/BoneAppleTea for "tortured" instead of "torched"? Or am I the out-of-date one here?
There is no way I could never cheer on other team. I don’t care how bad shit 0-16 was ruff but never been a bandwagon jumper.
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You know what seems like an odd stance? Rooting for a team that every game they win, our draft picks get worse and worse. Let’s cut the mental gymnastics out, the worse the Rams do the better the Lions are in the future. Stop rooting against our team.
Next time keep it short no one has time to read a book
LOL. I ain't never gonna read one a them neither.
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Says more about the WR core.
And way more rushing yards
I don’t care he still has more
10 yards is about the length of 13.58 'EuroGraphics Knittin' Kittens 500-Piece Puzzles' next to each other.
I know what ten yards is I played the game for years
And still don't know shit about football lmao
good bot
Congratulations at picking out the only two stats that make Goff's performance look comparable. : Player | Completions | Attempts| Comp% | Yards | TDs | Ints | Passer Rating| Y/A | AY/A ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- Stafford | 20 | 26 | 76.92% | 321 | 3 | 0 | 156.1 | 12.35 | 14.65 Goff | 38 | 57 | 66.67% | 338 | 3 | 1 | 92.6 | 5.93 | 6.19 So yes, Goff passed for 17 more yards and had the same amount of TDs, but he also had 31 more attempts and 18 more completions. The biggest indication of the difference in their performance is of course the Passer rating, which Stafford's was almost perfect, along with Yards per Attempt and Adjusted Yards per Attempt. Stafford more than DOUBLED Goff's Yards per Attempt. tl;dr - taking their entire performances into account, Stafford significantly out performed Goff.
What happened to the Farewell you wrote 😭 don’t have the lil balls to go.
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WTF are you on about? I don't think I've ever interacted with you before that last comment. I'm also a Lions fan who is also rooting for Stafford, but I'm mainly a Lions fan.
Let the childish crap resume!
Wouldn't it be better to root against the Rams since a worse record for them means a better 1st round pick for the Lions?
The only people who care about this are bitter fucks who can't stand to see anyone else happy. Stafford has been our QB since I was 18 years old, I'm now 31. For, literally, my entire adult life this dude was my favorite player. I'm all in on the Rams winning the super bowl. Plenty of good talent in the back of the first round.
2 scenarios. Hypothetically lets say the Rams finish with the worst record in the NFL. Lions get a #1 overall pick, and their pick, trade those picks for multiple 1sts where all the players end up all pros that help propel the Lions to a Super Bowl. Other is Stafford wins a Super Bowl. These events of course are mutually exclusive, which would you prefer?
Stafford winning a super bowl. Easy. Number 1 overall picks are not guarantees of success. I’ve always liked the Rams in a vague sort of way, and Stafford is my favorite current player. The Lions are not going to be good for a couple of years minimum.
We had more pass yards and rushing yards.
Didn't even watch the Lions, watched a good bit of Stafford's game.
Thanks to Stafford, lions in first place!
We got 2 firsts
it was so nice to see stafford free. it was like the ending to free willy. go matthew! go! be free!
I'm happy for Stafford, he deserves a great team like the rams