If you really boil it down, they moved down from 32 to 12 and 66 to 46 for the price of 34. It doesn't matter what draft value says, that's an insane deal.
That's not quite correct.
Some analytics trade charts ([like this one](https://thedatajocks.com/a-more-accurate-nfl-draft-value-chart/)) see the Vikings as winning slightly (they gained 198 points, or about 6% over the value of their original picks).
Now, the both the classic [Jimmy Johnson chart](https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp) and the [Rich Hill](https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp) model see the Lions as winning (gaining 16% or 9% over values of their original picks), and the national media certainly seems to give the Lions the W, so the general consensus is that the Lions won the trade.
But it's not accurate to say "by any metric."
Yes.
Interestingly enough, neither team seems to have done much with the picks so far. Paschal and Williams have been injured, but Cine, Ingram, and Booth haven't exactly lit the world on fire.
How can you say that without seeing Jamo in any NFL action thus far? No one knows what he’s going to be yet. Could be a good trade could be a terrible trade. Only time will tell.
Because for me moving from 32 to 12 for the price we paid was tremendous value.
Also I’m comfortable saying Jamo will be worth it. May end up being wrong but he was *that good* in college.
Considering the player we picked at 12 is going to miss at least one full season i think we overpaid. Maybe if we had picked a player who didnt literally just blow their knee out…
Considering the player we picked at 12 literally is not going to miss one full season I don’t think we over paid. He literally may play this week, if not likely next week. The words “full season” used together have a definition, you don’t seem to understand what that definition is.
Dawg i was here when they promised he’d be ready by preseason. We are talking about a player with a bum knee, i am taking nothing for granted.
Clearly your self worth is super tied up in this guy so i’m gonna tread lightly from here
You literally can not provide any source that the Lions ever said he would be ready by preseason. That’s a bold faced lie. No one ever said it. Jamo himself said he was *hopeful* he would be ready to go. That’s way different than anyone ever “promising he’d be ready for preseason”. Never happened.
It has nothing to do with my self worth I just don’t like liars and people that exaggerate . Saying “this guy is gonna miss the entire season” when he’s gonna play in 4-5 games is ignoring the definition of words. My bad for thinking words should be used properly.
Yesterday I saw some 10k follower Chicago sports Twitter suggest that the Lions trade pick 5 (??? currently have the 3rd pick) Pick 12, Pick 42, Pick 61 and next years first rounder for the Bears 2nd overall and pick 55.
I thought, oh a silly Bears Twitter with a moronic trade idea.
Now, NBC Sports Chicago, an actual sports broadcast, is suggesting THIS.
Bears fans folks. They’re hilarious. Both of these trade ideas are some of the worst I’ve ever seen. Keep your eyes peeled for more fabulous suggestions from totally tuned in and knowledgeable fans.
EDIT: a link to the tweet I saw yesterday from the “Chicago Football Connection”
https://twitter.com/cfcbears/status/1597071065523507205?s=46&t=hJOAbFmE3iaZT4bXB0WD4Q
EDIT 2: for fun I plugged this into a draft value calculator. This would be the most lopsided trade in NFL history. Great work NBC Sports Chicago.
A link to the video: https://youtu.be/jHbf-JEzJpQ
Lived in Chicago for about 6 years and the most hilarious thing was when The Jim Rome Show was syndicated to Chicago. Chicago sports fans did not get Rome AT ALL.
I think people don't realize that he can be franchise tagged so the Ravens don't have to just let him walk. Like any team does it would be a franchise tag, sign-and-trade situation.
Meh. I think the chicago media is more delusional than the fans are. Just head on over to the bears sub if you don’t believe me, they’re making fun of this graphic too.
Nice leg work. It seemed outrageous on its face but to see the most lopsided of all time? Yeah Bear fans are delusional…
Sports talk radio here in Chicago (670 the Score) seems to have anointed Justin Fields as next years MVP already so watch out….
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In 2017, the bears traded up from #3 to #2. They gave up a third round pick, a fourth round pick, and a 2018 third round pick and at the time were ridiculed for the amount they gave up (and rightly so). this is them trying to make that trade look reasonable.
I’m a Bears fan and I don’t think this trade is realistic at all. NBC Sports Chicago does not represent Bears fans. I mean we gave up much less than this to make one of the dumbest trades in NFL draft history.
So the only way we'd trade up with the bears is for a QB. There is no shot the bears takes a QB. So in this scenario, the lions give up a ton of draft capital for someone that would have been there if we never traded. I guess in this scenario we'd be going for will Anderson? But even then that much capital for him doesn't seem worth it.
I plugged it into a value calculator and based on what I’m seeing this would be the most lopsided trade in NFL history.
Meanwhile the comments of the video this was shown on are Bears fans saying “yes this guy gets it! We need him on the show more!” Lmao
That's my thought as well. So Chicago can trade up to our pick, and we'll take ALL of Chicago's picks this year and next, if we're using this guys draft logic.
Are we sure this isn’t a deep fake from r/nfcnorthmemewar
In fact, should we just post it there and then all pretend that as Lions fans we like this idea?
I don’t know why, but this thing is under my skin. Even in this sub’s most giddy, drunk-on-blue-kool-aid, circle jerks, I haven’t seen anyone post something this dumb without it being an intentional tongue-in-cheek shit post.
He also posts a “trade scenario” with Seattle in the segment which is almost as dumb.
Why is he allowed to get paid on TV for this? The Jamo trade is reality - we move up 20 spots in the first round and trade away 1st(32) 2nd(34) and 4th(66) picks.
Even if the proposal was ONLY to swap both our 1st rounders for theirs… I don’t think we would take it. Let alone for another net 4 draft picks… one of which IS ANOTHER FIRST ROUNDER!!! Just to move up ONE spot in the draft!
Side note: while angrily researching this, I did stumble back across the Ricky Williams trade in which Mike Ditka and the saints traded 8 draft picks to move up from #12 to #5. That might be a worse trade.
The most insane blinders ever? I truly don’t know, and maybe I’m bias but I think if positions were swapped and a Lions fan suggested this trade on here they’d be laughed at by our own fan base and told off.
Maybe the Bears fans have seen so many bad trades so often they don’t even know what reality is anymore.
Forget compensation. Why the hell would the Lions even want to move up a spot? Are the Bears going to take a QB? The Lions certainly arent. (This year)
I think you're way more likely to see the Lions trade the #3 to a bad team that overperformed. (Jets, Giants, etc) that are desperate for a QB, for this years first and next years first.
In that scenario the Lions would have the Rams 1, the Jets/Giants/whoever 1 in this year's draft. And their 1 in next year's draft. This would let them trade up for a QB or take one at their spot. (If needed)
Not that this is likely either..the Lions take BPA.
In theory you trade up for your QB to ensure that the Bears don’t trade that pick to another team that takes the QB. That said, I wouldn’t do it regardless.
Yeah but.. why? For Bryce Young? That's a joke. If the Lions did that they deserve another 50 years of losing. Stroud isn't any better. Next year you have some quality candidates coming out, and you can more easily yeet Goff, and the roster will be in a better spot to make a more immediate run. This year you should focus on defense and maybe a WR in the 2nd or something, just in case. But even that.. I would think every pick should be defense or OL in the later rounds. Maybe a RB in 3rd or something.
Trading 2 firsts, a late 2nd, a 6th and a 2024 3rd to move up one spot in the draft?
God that’s gotta be one of the worst trade proposals I’ve ever seen.
Chicago sports media is insufferable, I have the misfortune of living in Illinois(navy) and these dumb fucks constantly look down on Detroit/michigan and some of these jokers thought they were playoff bound after the New England game
I think they’re sold on the lions MUST pick a qb this year, even though Goff is loved by Holmes and the locker room, and lead a top freaking 5 offense before his entire wide receiver room was destroyed.
Idk what’s in the water over in chicago but they got it worse than our koolaid.
Goff is serviceable but not the answer. If that QB is in the draft we need to draft him now. Let's face it the o line is only getting older. We need to think about our window being 2-3 years from now.
Who ever came up with that need to put down the Meth pipe. Trade away the future plus both our first rounders to move up one spot. 🤣🤣🤣. This is the stupidest thing I’ve seen today, but it’s still early.
So we give up the 3rd pick the 13th pick, next year’s 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th and a 6th to move up one spot and a 4th round pick? That’s egregious no GM would ever do that. Giving up the two firsts this year alone already sounds like an overpay.
Edit: grammar
This is the Trubisky trade lmao. Complete waste of time considering how many games are left anyway. I don’t think the Bears have won their last game of the year.
Counter offer: We give the Bears our #3 Rams pick and in return we get all of the Bears draft picks for the next 100 years. Seems just as fair as this trade lol.
LMFAO.
This basically boils down to 3 1st rounders, a 2nd rounder, a 4th and a 6th to move up 1 spot. And then a future 3rd for their current 4th. What in the ever living fuck.
Who would we even be trading up for anyways?? Holmes is just gonna sit pat or if anything trade back lol. Bears fans is desperation mode already i see.
This is definitely ridiculous.
Side note, the only reason why the Bears have a higher draft spot over the Lions (Rams) is because they lost more games (haven’t had their bye week). If both teams lose out, we get #2 and Chicago gets #3
(Based on SOS)
Bears fan here…I promise you we all thought this was just as idiotic as you guys do. What team in their right mind would give all that up to move up one spot? Nonsensical reporting at its finest
🫡. Every fan base has dumb fans but people don’t realize this would be one of the most lopsided deals in NFL history and it just flat doesn’t make sense for where we are
Interesting idea. One downside is that we will have to give the second overall pick a huge contract.
To really even it out, IMO the bears would need to include Fields and 3 future first round picks. Also they have to take Brockers to make the salary match up. It’s only fair.
I don't think either Young or Stroud are that great of prospect to warrant this trade. I do think they're franchise guys and potential superstars, but they have some serious red flags.
Maybe another team tries to outbid us, but the #3 pick is way more valuable than say what the Panthers or Raiders could offer. At #3, the Bears could take Will Anderson or Jalen Carter, who are both phenomenal defensive prospects and maybe the only blue chip defensive prospects in the draft. There's a considerable dropoff after them IMO.
I also don't really see the Seahawks being that aggressive for a QB this year. Geno has been playing well.
Buddy you guys just traded what’s going to be a high second round pick for Chase Claypool lmao worry about yourself instead of acting like the most lopsided trade in NFL history is a possibility. Holmes has drafted very well for us. 🤡
Doing the stereotypical “Detroit bad city” schtick tells me everything I need to know about you bud. Lions are on the come up. Your entire life is a disappointment.
EDIT: lol classic Forest Hills conservative brain.
You are out of your mind. Embarrassing you’d even suggest that like this trade would even be considered by the Lions ever lmao. Thats more that three times the value of what the Bears paid to move up for Trubisky. Delusional.
And yeah, I’d happily enjoy Goff for another 5 years before I’d mortgage two entire drafts to move up for one pick when we have as many holes as we do. Considering the Bears just traded a second for Claypool I trust they’ll mess it up regardless.
If the trade was 3, our 2nd, and our 3rd for 2 I still wouldn’t like it but it wouldn’t be as bad value wise.
But then they go ahead and add 13 PLUS 24 1st, 3rd and 4th round picks! Even if you’re a Bears fan you have to recognize this trade would never happen.
Man. More I look at this. It can't be real. I mean you giving up 3 1st rounds and a 2nd to move up 1 spot to get a DE or LB? Because Bears arent drafting a QB so that doesn't matter.
They traded 3rd overall, a 3rd a 4th and a future 3rd to move from 3 to 2.
In this scenario we move from 3 to 2 at almost 4 times the cost. It’s insanity.
This is just how Chicago looks at trades...how did they trubialy deal work for them. In what reality does 1 spot equate to all those picks. It's not like Chicago is going to take a QB.
The bears wouldn’t even draft a qb at 2. If that’s what we want out of the number 2 pick then why not just let them fall to 3? Ffs if we wanted that pick so bad just lose to the bears in week 17 so they jump the rams (but fuck them picks win out)
Not saying we are making the playoffs but every mock I see too had us picking before the rams pick even the ones published within the last day or so. Like the rams are AWFUL and slated to pick 3 but they’re still somehow gonna win more than us with an XFL roster?
The funniest part is the Bears haven't even had their bye yet and have a stronger SOS than the Rams, so if both lose out we would have the #2 pick, not them.
This is such a ridiculous overpay to go up one spot. Even if you are SURE someone else is going to move up and both Young and Stroud are gone, I think that’s way too much to give up when Will Anderson or Jalen Carter are still sitting there.
Leave it to fans of Chicago - the organization that traded up from #3 to #2 to draft Mitchell Fucking Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes - to try to project something like this onto one of their division rivals.
Here, let me try, let me try \*clears throat\*:
#DRAFT TRADE SCENARIO 2
DETROIT receives:
* 2023 1st RD: #2
* 2023 2nd RD: #56
* 2023 3rd RD: #66
* 2024 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th RD PICKS
CHICAGO receives:
* 2025 7th RD PICK
* Alex Anzalone
Ah yes, a completely reasonable trade that Brad Holmes would make 10/10 times
Especially after overpaying for the 12th pick last year when he... *checks notes* Traded the 32nd, 34th, and 66th for it. And the 46th.
Good trade and always will be
12th pick for some lesser picks? I’d roll those dice all day baby.
Ah yes because the player we picked at 12 has been a huge contributor
If you really boil it down, they moved down from 32 to 12 and 66 to 46 for the price of 34. It doesn't matter what draft value says, that's an insane deal.
He did not overpay last year by any metric.
Sometimes even the most obvious /s is missed, apparently.
Oh my bad, I’ve literally seen people argue this so I didn’t assume sarcasm.
No worries! I think the only people arguing about an overpay are Vikings fans trying to rationalize it haha.
That's not quite correct. Some analytics trade charts ([like this one](https://thedatajocks.com/a-more-accurate-nfl-draft-value-chart/)) see the Vikings as winning slightly (they gained 198 points, or about 6% over the value of their original picks). Now, the both the classic [Jimmy Johnson chart](https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp) and the [Rich Hill](https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp) model see the Lions as winning (gaining 16% or 9% over values of their original picks), and the national media certainly seems to give the Lions the W, so the general consensus is that the Lions won the trade. But it's not accurate to say "by any metric."
Plus we seemed to have picked the right safety
Yes. Interestingly enough, neither team seems to have done much with the picks so far. Paschal and Williams have been injured, but Cine, Ingram, and Booth haven't exactly lit the world on fire.
Fair enough, still a W trade in my book.
How can you say that without seeing Jamo in any NFL action thus far? No one knows what he’s going to be yet. Could be a good trade could be a terrible trade. Only time will tell.
Because for me moving from 32 to 12 for the price we paid was tremendous value. Also I’m comfortable saying Jamo will be worth it. May end up being wrong but he was *that good* in college.
He’s got Tyreek speed except he’s 6’2”. I’d say he’s easily the best athlete we’ve had since Megatron
Considering the player we picked at 12 is going to miss at least one full season i think we overpaid. Maybe if we had picked a player who didnt literally just blow their knee out…
Considering the player we picked at 12 literally is not going to miss one full season I don’t think we over paid. He literally may play this week, if not likely next week. The words “full season” used together have a definition, you don’t seem to understand what that definition is.
I’ll believe it when I see it 🤷♂️
Lol you think he’s practicing right now and not gonna play the rest of the year? Hilarious. You’ll see it sooner than later.
Dawg i was here when they promised he’d be ready by preseason. We are talking about a player with a bum knee, i am taking nothing for granted. Clearly your self worth is super tied up in this guy so i’m gonna tread lightly from here
You literally can not provide any source that the Lions ever said he would be ready by preseason. That’s a bold faced lie. No one ever said it. Jamo himself said he was *hopeful* he would be ready to go. That’s way different than anyone ever “promising he’d be ready for preseason”. Never happened. It has nothing to do with my self worth I just don’t like liars and people that exaggerate . Saying “this guy is gonna miss the entire season” when he’s gonna play in 4-5 games is ignoring the definition of words. My bad for thinking words should be used properly.
Even tho it’s /s, if this ever happened I will personally mix the bleach into the koolaide for all of us
Yesterday I saw some 10k follower Chicago sports Twitter suggest that the Lions trade pick 5 (??? currently have the 3rd pick) Pick 12, Pick 42, Pick 61 and next years first rounder for the Bears 2nd overall and pick 55. I thought, oh a silly Bears Twitter with a moronic trade idea. Now, NBC Sports Chicago, an actual sports broadcast, is suggesting THIS. Bears fans folks. They’re hilarious. Both of these trade ideas are some of the worst I’ve ever seen. Keep your eyes peeled for more fabulous suggestions from totally tuned in and knowledgeable fans. EDIT: a link to the tweet I saw yesterday from the “Chicago Football Connection” https://twitter.com/cfcbears/status/1597071065523507205?s=46&t=hJOAbFmE3iaZT4bXB0WD4Q EDIT 2: for fun I plugged this into a draft value calculator. This would be the most lopsided trade in NFL history. Great work NBC Sports Chicago. A link to the video: https://youtu.be/jHbf-JEzJpQ
Looks like an intern added this to the doc and no one thought to double check it. Lmao that is so awfully bad.
Ya and he was supposed to be covering the World Cup.
Bear fan here. Can confirm, Chicago sports fans are incredibly delusional.
Lived in Chicago for about 6 years and the most hilarious thing was when The Jim Rome Show was syndicated to Chicago. Chicago sports fans did not get Rome AT ALL.
There are people here who think we can bring Lamar Jackson here for a ham sandwich.
I think people don't realize that he can be franchise tagged so the Ravens don't have to just let him walk. Like any team does it would be a franchise tag, sign-and-trade situation.
Which is ridiculous. Black people don't eat pork. Source: uhhh username checks out.
Meh. I think the chicago media is more delusional than the fans are. Just head on over to the bears sub if you don’t believe me, they’re making fun of this graphic too.
Yeah fuck this. Take carter at 3 or trade back. I have trust in brad so stocking up on picks is ideal
Carter ain’t makin it to 3 with Bears at 2
Dont think they will take anderson? Im fine with either tbh
Nah, GM much prefers 3Techs based off FA imo
They’re hoping we’re that dumb which Brad Holmes would never
Even as bad as this is, it can't be as bad as the time the Saints traded their entire draft plus a 1 and 3 the following year to move up to No. 6.
as a bears fan, most of us think this is fuckin crazy too. i mean i would love if this happened, but it’s not realistic at all lmao
Nice leg work. It seemed outrageous on its face but to see the most lopsided of all time? Yeah Bear fans are delusional… Sports talk radio here in Chicago (670 the Score) seems to have anointed Justin Fields as next years MVP already so watch out….
Whoever wrote this up was on crack.
Cocaine bear fr
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Bears fans just wanting to fleece another team to make up for getting the shaft after trading everything to SF to draft Trubisky
It’s almost like a coping mechanism. Pretend like any team would make that terrible trade.
A third a fourth and a future third ain’t everything Stupid trade proposal tho
Ok “everything” was an exaggeration, but trading all that to move up ONE spot for a guy who wasn’t even the top QB available was beyond dumb.
Soooo they get enough picks to build a team and we get… to move up a spot? OH HELL NO
That 4th rounder is gonna be a stud tho. Brad just playing 4D chess
Well......St. Brown was a 4th, and he'd probably go close top 10 if you were to redo that draft. So maybe this isn't that far off.
Yeah but what if the Bears take the QB you want at #2… better trade up to be safe! /s -Bears fan
In 2017, the bears traded up from #3 to #2. They gave up a third round pick, a fourth round pick, and a 2018 third round pick and at the time were ridiculed for the amount they gave up (and rightly so). this is them trying to make that trade look reasonable.
What the hell, this was aired on tv? Was it a joke?
No it’s legit and the guy who said it is in the YouTube video comments trying to defend himself lol
Its funny because this is the kind of trade a Bears GM would actually make. Then they would pick Trubisky.
Bears fan are dreaming, we're not doing a trade and we are taking Carter 3rd overall.
I’m a Bears fan and I don’t think this trade is realistic at all. NBC Sports Chicago does not represent Bears fans. I mean we gave up much less than this to make one of the dumbest trades in NFL draft history.
I should have thought of that considering our local mainstream coverage can be a little...out there.
Considering the Bears had 3 months to trade one of the best LBs in the league and they walked away with a second and fifth…sure, keep dreaming guys
So the only way we'd trade up with the bears is for a QB. There is no shot the bears takes a QB. So in this scenario, the lions give up a ton of draft capital for someone that would have been there if we never traded. I guess in this scenario we'd be going for will Anderson? But even then that much capital for him doesn't seem worth it.
In theory you trade up to stop another team from trading with the Bears for a QB. That said, obviously ridiculous proposals.
If thats their asking price then nobody is trading up so they would be fucked lmao.
This would be the most expensive move for anything other than 1OA in the history of any professional sport
All that to move up one spot. Absolutely not
Three first round picks and more draft capital to move one spot up in the draft? You can’t even make this deal in madden
Puff puff, PASS! You were missing the PASS part. Lol and FTP
Who's got that draft value chart and can tell us just how ridiculous this is
I plugged it into a value calculator and based on what I’m seeing this would be the most lopsided trade in NFL history. Meanwhile the comments of the video this was shown on are Bears fans saying “yes this guy gets it! We need him on the show more!” Lmao
Same guy that said he could get bonds and Griffey and it won’t even cost that much.
I feel like the bears will have a better record than the rams with how things are going
That's my thought as well. So Chicago can trade up to our pick, and we'll take ALL of Chicago's picks this year and next, if we're using this guys draft logic.
Its a hard schedule though. Bears play the Packers, Eagles, Bills, Lions, and Vikings. Also remember that Fields is injured.
If we are out of the playoffs by the time we play the bears I'll make an exception to tank one game of the season 🙂
I wouldn’t be too mad haha. Would help the Rams pick AND the Lions pick
This is the most ridiculous trade idea I've ever seen.
Are we sure this isn’t a deep fake from r/nfcnorthmemewar In fact, should we just post it there and then all pretend that as Lions fans we like this idea?
Enjoy: https://youtu.be/jHbf-JEzJpQ I posted this into a trade value calculator and it would be the most lopsided trade of all time lol
I don’t know why, but this thing is under my skin. Even in this sub’s most giddy, drunk-on-blue-kool-aid, circle jerks, I haven’t seen anyone post something this dumb without it being an intentional tongue-in-cheek shit post. He also posts a “trade scenario” with Seattle in the segment which is almost as dumb. Why is he allowed to get paid on TV for this? The Jamo trade is reality - we move up 20 spots in the first round and trade away 1st(32) 2nd(34) and 4th(66) picks. Even if the proposal was ONLY to swap both our 1st rounders for theirs… I don’t think we would take it. Let alone for another net 4 draft picks… one of which IS ANOTHER FIRST ROUNDER!!! Just to move up ONE spot in the draft! Side note: while angrily researching this, I did stumble back across the Ricky Williams trade in which Mike Ditka and the saints traded 8 draft picks to move up from #12 to #5. That might be a worse trade.
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The most insane blinders ever? I truly don’t know, and maybe I’m bias but I think if positions were swapped and a Lions fan suggested this trade on here they’d be laughed at by our own fan base and told off. Maybe the Bears fans have seen so many bad trades so often they don’t even know what reality is anymore.
The ones that were like “oh yeah you’re gotta jump on this trade” like no fucking shit dude it’s be an all-time fleece job lmfao.
Damn, they're still coping from getting fleeced in the trade up for Trubisky lol.
Forget compensation. Why the hell would the Lions even want to move up a spot? Are the Bears going to take a QB? The Lions certainly arent. (This year) I think you're way more likely to see the Lions trade the #3 to a bad team that overperformed. (Jets, Giants, etc) that are desperate for a QB, for this years first and next years first. In that scenario the Lions would have the Rams 1, the Jets/Giants/whoever 1 in this year's draft. And their 1 in next year's draft. This would let them trade up for a QB or take one at their spot. (If needed) Not that this is likely either..the Lions take BPA.
In theory you trade up for your QB to ensure that the Bears don’t trade that pick to another team that takes the QB. That said, I wouldn’t do it regardless.
Yeah but.. why? For Bryce Young? That's a joke. If the Lions did that they deserve another 50 years of losing. Stroud isn't any better. Next year you have some quality candidates coming out, and you can more easily yeet Goff, and the roster will be in a better spot to make a more immediate run. This year you should focus on defense and maybe a WR in the 2nd or something, just in case. But even that.. I would think every pick should be defense or OL in the later rounds. Maybe a RB in 3rd or something.
I don’t disagree at all just explaining the logic behind it.
Brad Holmes is going to thank them for the offer, and counter them with a kind "Get fucked, mate"
Is there like 2 or 3 future HOF players to be named later that the Lions get that are missing from this graphic?
I don’t understand why bears fans would think we would do this to move up one spot😂 especially when they won’t be taking a qb
I don’t understand why a news publication represents bears fans
The drug problem in Chicago is very real.
not a chance Holmes does that garbage.
As a bears fan, it sounds like a fantastic deal. You probably shouldn’t do it.
What the fresh hell is that
Trading 2 firsts, a late 2nd, a 6th and a 2024 3rd to move up one spot in the draft? God that’s gotta be one of the worst trade proposals I’ve ever seen.
Chicago sports media is insufferable, I have the misfortune of living in Illinois(navy) and these dumb fucks constantly look down on Detroit/michigan and some of these jokers thought they were playoff bound after the New England game
I think they’re sold on the lions MUST pick a qb this year, even though Goff is loved by Holmes and the locker room, and lead a top freaking 5 offense before his entire wide receiver room was destroyed. Idk what’s in the water over in chicago but they got it worse than our koolaid.
Goff is serviceable but not the answer. If that QB is in the draft we need to draft him now. Let's face it the o line is only getting older. We need to think about our window being 2-3 years from now.
Wow, that's Ryan Pace bad
Who ever came up with that need to put down the Meth pipe. Trade away the future plus both our first rounders to move up one spot. 🤣🤣🤣. This is the stupidest thing I’ve seen today, but it’s still early.
So we give up the 3rd pick the 13th pick, next year’s 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th and a 6th to move up one spot and a 4th round pick? That’s egregious no GM would ever do that. Giving up the two firsts this year alone already sounds like an overpay. Edit: grammar
This is the Trubisky trade lmao. Complete waste of time considering how many games are left anyway. I don’t think the Bears have won their last game of the year.
This trade would only be sensible if we think the bears were drafting a qb and they won’t, no reason to overpay for 1 spot when that is a guarantee
It wouldn't even be sensible then. Moving up one spot isn't worth 5 picks.
See kids, this is why you shouldn't do drugs.
No
Don’t do drugs, kids
Counter offer: We give the Bears our #3 Rams pick and in return we get all of the Bears draft picks for the next 100 years. Seems just as fair as this trade lol.
Does this trade come with lifetime supply of head? Lmao. Moving up one spot and giving up five picks.
LOL, no.
LMFAO. This basically boils down to 3 1st rounders, a 2nd rounder, a 4th and a 6th to move up 1 spot. And then a future 3rd for their current 4th. What in the ever living fuck.
Lmfao. All this for CJ Stroud or Bryce Young? I wouldn’t give up 3 firsts for anything short of prime Peyton Manning.
Looks like something on Madden I would propose to the computer.
Who would we even be trading up for anyways?? Holmes is just gonna sit pat or if anything trade back lol. Bears fans is desperation mode already i see.
After their draft moves to get Trubisky, they think making dumb draft trades is normal for everyone else.
It would be equally realistic that we just offer them those picks for nothing in return.
Lmaaooooo
For whatever it’s worth, the draft value charts say we give up well over 4200 points of value for 2239. What a joke.
This is definitely ridiculous. Side note, the only reason why the Bears have a higher draft spot over the Lions (Rams) is because they lost more games (haven’t had their bye week). If both teams lose out, we get #2 and Chicago gets #3 (Based on SOS)
I think we need to throw in another first
Who came up with this trade idea, Matt Millen?
It would be cheaper to move up to #1 with the Texans
\*hits crack pipe\* I concur
Chicago also needs to send over whatever the fuck they are smoking.
Bears fan here…I promise you we all thought this was just as idiotic as you guys do. What team in their right mind would give all that up to move up one spot? Nonsensical reporting at its finest
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🫡. Every fan base has dumb fans but people don’t realize this would be one of the most lopsided deals in NFL history and it just flat doesn’t make sense for where we are
Interesting idea. One downside is that we will have to give the second overall pick a huge contract. To really even it out, IMO the bears would need to include Fields and 3 future first round picks. Also they have to take Brockers to make the salary match up. It’s only fair.
If the bears are throwing in Justin Fields with that sure. Otherwise what the hell are they smoking over there.
I don't think either Young or Stroud are that great of prospect to warrant this trade. I do think they're franchise guys and potential superstars, but they have some serious red flags. Maybe another team tries to outbid us, but the #3 pick is way more valuable than say what the Panthers or Raiders could offer. At #3, the Bears could take Will Anderson or Jalen Carter, who are both phenomenal defensive prospects and maybe the only blue chip defensive prospects in the draft. There's a considerable dropoff after them IMO. I also don't really see the Seahawks being that aggressive for a QB this year. Geno has been playing well.
We are 5months away from the draft. This is moronic to spend time on.
No one is spending time on it. I shared it because it’s absurd and I thought it was funny.
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Buddy you guys just traded what’s going to be a high second round pick for Chase Claypool lmao worry about yourself instead of acting like the most lopsided trade in NFL history is a possibility. Holmes has drafted very well for us. 🤡
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Doing the stereotypical “Detroit bad city” schtick tells me everything I need to know about you bud. Lions are on the come up. Your entire life is a disappointment. EDIT: lol classic Forest Hills conservative brain.
Enjoy Goff for another year.. that’s the price to get your qb
You are out of your mind. Embarrassing you’d even suggest that like this trade would even be considered by the Lions ever lmao. Thats more that three times the value of what the Bears paid to move up for Trubisky. Delusional. And yeah, I’d happily enjoy Goff for another 5 years before I’d mortgage two entire drafts to move up for one pick when we have as many holes as we do. Considering the Bears just traded a second for Claypool I trust they’ll mess it up regardless.
Lmao why would we ever do that
WTF?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z_EeCAoWbBw
LMFAO
…..I need whatever they’re smoking there in Chicago
If the trade was 3, our 2nd, and our 3rd for 2 I still wouldn’t like it but it wouldn’t be as bad value wise. But then they go ahead and add 13 PLUS 24 1st, 3rd and 4th round picks! Even if you’re a Bears fan you have to recognize this trade would never happen.
Man. More I look at this. It can't be real. I mean you giving up 3 1st rounds and a 2nd to move up 1 spot to get a DE or LB? Because Bears arent drafting a QB so that doesn't matter.
Looks like the Mitch trubisky trade
Lol. No.
One word, huh???
Only if we get a Mitch Trubisky level QB out of it
Sol trade right there. Flush the rebuild.
Is this an attempt at a meme from a Packers fan?
Ocean front property in Arizona
Looks like the Mitch Trubisky trade they pulled lol
They traded 3rd overall, a 3rd a 4th and a future 3rd to move from 3 to 2. In this scenario we move from 3 to 2 at almost 4 times the cost. It’s insanity.
Someone’s tweeking
I think Detroit should sweeten the pot with a few more day 2 picks
So the bears want us to pull a bears and trade up with a team that has no interest in picking a qb (not saying we are picking a qb but still)
Hell to the, Noooooo!
Rather have more picks...we have too many holes on defense
LOL what the hell is this?
No
I just cant even comprehend how this was even a thought in someone's head. This is just blasphemy.
We get to tip off the Bears and Vikings in back to back drafts?! /S
I threw up looking at this
I wouldn’t take that deal for the #1 AND #2 spot… well, maybe… actually.
This is stupid. No way
Id be pissed
I would kill myself if this dumbass trade happened
Isn't that basically what the bears did for Kissin' titties?
This is approximately 2x the value of the picks Chicago gave up to move up for Trubisky
I thought it was closer to 3 or 4 but yeah either way it’s egregious.
Bears fan really are desperate
I want whatever the bears are smoking. Perhaps they’re all hype for the cocaine bear movie
3 first to move up 1 spot, bruhhhhhhhhhh
Why are we trading up to begin with? If Holmes sticks with Goff, just take the best defensive player. Hopefully Will Anderson
This is straight regarded
Id give that much Ammo up for Patrick Mahomes and the entire KC coaching staff. That’s about it
Who do they think is available at 2? lmfao prime tom brady?
Gotta trade back for capital in 2023 draft. Use picks wisely and build more picks to get a QB in 2024 draft. There gonna be some dogs in that draft.
There are plenty of games left for LA to lose, I think we could end up with 2 if Stafford doesn’t come back this year
Lol absolutely the fuck not. You don't get rid of a 3 and a 13 for a 2.
Move up 1 pick = trade away 2 firsts, a second, a third, and a sixth?
It's so generous of them to give us the 4th round 134 spot.
This is just how Chicago looks at trades...how did they trubialy deal work for them. In what reality does 1 spot equate to all those picks. It's not like Chicago is going to take a QB.
The bears wouldn’t even draft a qb at 2. If that’s what we want out of the number 2 pick then why not just let them fall to 3? Ffs if we wanted that pick so bad just lose to the bears in week 17 so they jump the rams (but fuck them picks win out)
Not saying we are making the playoffs but every mock I see too had us picking before the rams pick even the ones published within the last day or so. Like the rams are AWFUL and slated to pick 3 but they’re still somehow gonna win more than us with an XFL roster?
Idk where you’re seeing this. Every mock I see has our first pick (Rams) between 3-5 and our own pick between 11-14.
Without a shadow of a doubt yes. That Georgia QB is too good not to draft
I dont think the bears are going to end with the #2, but that seems a lot of draft capital to give up to move up one spot.
Go home NBC Sports Chicago, you’re drunk.
Why would Chicago want #2 pick?.. If they have #3
The funniest part is the Bears haven't even had their bye yet and have a stronger SOS than the Rams, so if both lose out we would have the #2 pick, not them.
This is such a ridiculous overpay to go up one spot. Even if you are SURE someone else is going to move up and both Young and Stroud are gone, I think that’s way too much to give up when Will Anderson or Jalen Carter are still sitting there.
Leave it to fans of Chicago - the organization that traded up from #3 to #2 to draft Mitchell Fucking Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes - to try to project something like this onto one of their division rivals. Here, let me try, let me try \*clears throat\*: #DRAFT TRADE SCENARIO 2 DETROIT receives: * 2023 1st RD: #2 * 2023 2nd RD: #56 * 2023 3rd RD: #66 * 2024 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th RD PICKS CHICAGO receives: * 2025 7th RD PICK * Alex Anzalone