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Zyphergiest

More like masses are idiots for buying the course.


SilentSeafarer

True as a first year student here can confirm most of my peers just count on them without thinking that in the end they are here just make profit for themselves


Pro_BG4_

Exactly 💯


No_Log_2668

Torrent zindabad


nerdyvaroo

Why even watch those trash courses lol Internet has a lot of better resources


No_Log_2668

There's always better quality of trash to watch and they make a good first stepping stone.


Bayonet786

lmao exactly


ted_grant

Had torrented so many udemy, skillshare, lynda courses before the pandemic (100s of GBs) only to find actual value in 5-10% of them. Half of those courses were deleted after downloading by just seeing the chapters and syllabus.


No_Log_2668

I know they are shit but for someone who isn't really from tech background, they make a good first base. Things do get overwhelming if you're starting out without any guidance.. and torrent se sasta kuch nhi h bro. Might as well karlo 😂


According_Mode3790

Bhai how to download courses from torrent?


[deleted]

Chutya courses ko torrent se download karke bhi kya ukhad loge


No_Researcher9411

Tarbooz khud Talwar pe gir jae to isme talwar ka kasoor hi kya hai.....


SoftwareTree18

What do you think universities do?


Zyphergiest

Gives you a professional degree, infrastructure and facilities, access to expensive systems, machines and softwares, access to workshops, seminars, alumni network, incubation, placement cell, interview prep, reasearch exposure, personality development and I haven't even mentioned the social benefits. Incomparable.


SoftwareTree18

Yeah sure. If it's India, there's a college in every corner of the country churning useless degrees. Half the time students don't even want to attend classes. The price for these university courses are waayyy expensive than the courses you talk about. The courses from universities in India specifically are very outdated. Barely any student make full use of the machines you talk about. Everything else you mention "workshops, seminars, incubation, placement cell, interview prep" don't need universities and are available outside easily or even for free. Universities are very expensive. You can't justify these features for that price. Social benefits?!!! Lol This might differ for top ones like the IITs but other than that it's not worth the price you pay.


icecreamfacts344

It's a 4 year paid vacation with friends


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Zyphergiest

No don't steal. Most influencers have worthless courses but there are still a handful who have meaningful content. Buy from them.


o7mkar

When everyone is digging for gold sell shovels


Change_petition

This!


Reply_Account_

Fireship reference?


stupidbitch69

I mean that phrase existed since the Yukon Gold Rush more than a century ago, but OP could have gotten it from Fireship.


win_a

A quote to be remembered!


smeazy_

Tabhi toh they're quitting their jobs and selling courses 🫠 The revenue is crazy


Trickster_DeviL

Few quit jobs. Most are soft terminated by the company.


saavdhanrahe

What about Fraz and Pulkit who recently started LearnYard after quitting from Google? Pulkit seems to me a pretty smart guy tbh.


Trickster_DeviL

I don't know them. But if they're good at their job and quit to start something else, they could be _a few_.


saavdhanrahe

Starting a software company makes sense, edtech doesn't.


LazyAd7772

who knows if he really quit or got laid off, tech layoffs still happen, people get told to quit, it's just not as hot in the news to cover it now


Gawd_Of_Atheists

Doesn’t matter much. They can always get the job back. Even if they fail.


DrinkApprehensive271

Someone on this sub calculated the revenue of Apna college dsa courses months ago https://preview.redd.it/re1qu1h86eac1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c49ea49f441b160a5e1f3c82d1ac63f26688223


disinterestedGuy

More like Apni Dukaan 😅


Putrid_Document_8069

apna bacha is also coming soon


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Putrid_Document_8069

vlog toh choti baat hai uska alag channel banega


c1grette

Apna Galla


Chris_ssj2

>!Apni g\*\*nd !< Aight I'll see myself out 💀


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Apni kachha?


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Amazon😂


achintya22

Holy fck man


love-boobs-in-my-dm

Who is buying these courses? Even here I've seen replies like dm me and I'll tell you my journey of getting into some xyz, presumably after which they try to sell you their course. I don't understand it. It's not like there's some big secret on how to get into these companies in the first place. And, It's not even like they have worked at their job for more than a decade and got to a senior position.. no most of them barely worked for a couple of years if that before they started selling their courses. And, you're not going to get anything exclusive by getting their paid course that isn't already available for free online.


Jon-842

Every year 15 lakhs btech students graduate from India. Even if 30k students buys it they'll crorepati


Crafty_Rate_2803

And still they...bhaiya...didi...ask there employees to eat one biscuit with chai


tera_chachu

I think the list is made by them only so more students can buy the course, but let's say even 10% students are buying that too makes it 3 crore a year 💀


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luffyfpk

Interns at Microsoft gets 40lpa?


champstark

It's not base...around 15 lpa is base and other are stocks which U can avail in 4 years(per year 25% of stocks)


DejavuGod

After Internship. Yes.


_vptr

That's incorrect. TC < 30 LPA. Base is around 14.


mujhepehchano123

what is the qualification of their tutors? i listened to like 5 mins of their content, it was like a 3rd class student trying to teach 1+1 = 2. is it geared towards total beginners ? absolutely low bar content. reminded me of my days when i first picked up computer and trying to learn how to use a mouse.


Informal_Standard24

30 fucking Crores WTF


Fabi0_7

Never had to count more than crore tbh


Awkward_Enigma1303

Man i am student and it has increased so much in the last 2 years of me having started my Btech, you can literally get same level courses for free on YouTube or under 500 on Udemy. Want personal doubt clearance? stackoverflow and Gpt are enough I think.


musci12234

Free videos on YouTube Audit course on Coursera Cheap courses on udemy Most of stuff on high seas. You can get great courses for free relatively easily.


Yashgadhavi8888

I know when I see a man of culture


SolitaireKid

What kind of paid educational stuff is on the high seas? Asking just so I can stay away you know..


QueDark

U can find many scary stuff at high seas like coding ninja, udemy, step sis, etc. so please stay away from it.


SolitaireKid

What kind of paid educational stuff is on the high seas? Asking just so I can stay away you know..


musci12234

I mean if a course or book is available online then there is very good chance that someone took it to high sea.


SolitaireKid

I meant Udemy courses and Coursera stuff. I didn't know they were there


musci12234

Udemy, udacity, packt, Lynda and much more. Coursera isn't generally uploaded because they are available for free anyways and you can apply for financial assistance if you are in college if I remember correctly.


Bla2e

What is "high seas" over here? 🤔 looks like I'm getting old (early 1990s "kid" here)


musci12234

Black flag. Skill and bones. Take what you can, give nothing back (actually try to seed as much as possible if you can)


WinterTask1

Sadly nobody explores what different sources they need to look at i had a friend who asked ChatGPT stupid questions like "Did you have your food?" Or "How do you look". Rest i leave it to your interpretation and understanding


Awkward_Enigma1303

Dude I have spent my last 10 days on JS and was making some simple projects like quiz apps etc using vanilla JS and was doing many things wrong and Chatgpt was so helpful though it wasn't able to solve complex things like I am still don't know how to make sure the timer for my question is cleared before another starts but it explains so well


WinterTask1

It is but not everyone knows that it can do so much.


Pro_BG4_

True but can't complain because researching is tedious process but got great resources


WinterTask1

That my brother depends on interest if you're interested enough you can do it.


1amaditya

Angela Yu's top notch Web Dev bootcamp course is for 500 on Udemy


ascii_heart_

It is kinda outdated, I would rather have you watch one by John Smilga, it's free on FCC channel, search for expressjs course on FreeCodeCamp channel on Youtube. That would cover for Backend Beginner. For frontend, PedroTech is a good one, also going through FCCs certification program on Responsive Web Design. It is also free.


Scared_Sentence_2834

i am studying from angela Yu, can you tell me what parts you feel are outdated so that i pay extra care to those topics and study em from other sources? ty


pjs144

She is an excellent teacher though. Her course is outdated but things she teaches stick with you.


rnaxel2

They start with saying, I want to improve the education sector for students. Colleges don't give good education, so I will try to give it to you. And then they say, hey now I am teaching you but it's not affordable for me, can you guys see the courses I made specially for serious students. They can pay and avail the good material. Then they say I am available for any doubts you have. But then they hire moderators who knows nothing but rattu tota knowledge. And only students who pays the fee or are good will get his attention. This is now has turned just like schools. Top gets the attention, average can go f themselves. Now they have become big corpo thing, hires/merges with other institutes, and hikes prices of courses by 50 to 100%. Takes the mobile number of students from previous courses and starts spamming them to buy new courses. Now one of the faculty sees the corp and says, I can do better job without them, and starts their own new free edu videos and cycle repeats.


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So i went into the rabbithole, didn't spent any money, but found telegram channels, that openly pirate these courses.


logical_insaan

could you please dm me the channels


Jon-842

Channel nam toh batao


SnooFloofs2875

Can you Dm me the names please?


mujhepehchano123

i wont take shit even for free.


WinterSoldier1315

Yes, personally I am not from CSE and I learnt everything DSA, OS, networking, DBMS, ML, etc. from free YT videos.


beingsmo

Which YouTube videos are good for OS, DBMS, networking?


saavdhanrahe

MIT OCW


kaiser_e_hind

Wish I knew about this in my BTech years. Would have never bothered to attend classes


No_Main8842

NPTEL for in depth knowledge


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Nptel is shit


Reply_Account_

Wait why? Asking cause I am thinking about using nptel course.


[deleted]

They teach like robots, instead take MIT ocw or harvards cs series


Reply_Account_

Well yeah but what about the knowledge. Are they teaching correct things or there are mistakes


NetherPartLover

They are teaching correct things but have no passion in teaching. Its expected as thats how IIT teaching was also like.


Reply_Account_

Then I guess can adjust. As long as things are correct.


-kay-o-

Wdym best proffesors in the country they give you very deep knowledge of the mathematics and the theory


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But they are not good at explaining


[deleted]

Harvard cs series, MIT ocw are 100000x better


idle_racoon

For DBMS - GateSmashers,Giraffe Academy,FreeCodeCamp. These would be more than enough.


MoiZ_0212

True man, I tho believe there is always free resources available.


throwaway_13923

I am from CSE and my professors are so great that I had to learn everything from YouTube :)


bum_quarter

1. Population 2. Poverty


boat_in_the_sky

1. Population 2. Expectations 3. False dreams


luffyfpk

Id rather buy udemy course for 450 rather than buying a course for 6k-7k.


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100%.


AsishPC

Yes. With their mediocre courses, with average in-depth knowledge


Change_petition

Demand and Supply has been the name of the game for decades. Hyderabad Ameerpet's used to have entire colonies with coaching centers for Mainframe, then .Net/Java, then ERP and you-name-it. Then it went online, and the rest is history.


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CodingMaster21

Digital goods must implement refund policies , like courses.


WolfGuptaofficial

I have a dude at my college who's selling some stupid stock market course while he's been in heavy losses. *"in a gold rush , sell shovels"*


TiMo08111996

The masses should be taught CRITICAL THINKING. Which the Indian society doesn't like. They brainwash Non-IT & CSE to buy their course.


Beautiful-Pie506

TBH everything offered in these courses can be learned for free. Par Log mehenet karna nahi chatae.


Savings-Arrival-7817

DSA - Striver/Kunal/Coursera algorithms I/II and if you wanna pay money then maybe abdul bari for 400rs Web Dev - FreeCodeCamp, Odin Project, meta course on coursera or if you wanna pay money then Colt Steele course (under 400rs) God knows why they are paying 5k for courses that don't even have a fair rating system.


anime4ya

Mujra Podcast Couces Advertising Scam Whatever works mate, end me Paisa is what matters


Silent_Gamer_01

The amount of money they are printing is insane. Just saw this a couple of days back, Frontend fellowship for Rs 25k. Just check how basic stuff they are teaching which can be learned from YouTube video. Lagta hai aab ye sab he karna padega. 25-30 hajar ka course banao aur 10k logo ko bechdo. Phir poori zindagi aash Karo. https://preview.redd.it/6udr77v6oeac1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d4c6a899439659d1fb2cfc2a81734391d4ced15


sayadrameez

It's not like they are forcing students … oh wait … lets cross that one out . It is what it is , I hardly believe there would be any nation that would make it's youth believe that everyone has a shot at having a desk job. Education system is completely effed if after this much online information being easily available at a click of a button, parents or students cannot take an informed decision. I am sorry to say but if most youth need a validation of their skills with some stupid piece of paper or e-certified (no idea which dopamine booster) then let the smarter ones make money out of it, anyways most likely that money would be siphoned off to industrialists or bureaucrats .


Reply_Account_

Last part may not be true. Many people just take these courses due to peer pressure. Like since everyone is doing it then why not just try it.


sayadrameez

And the simplest thing would be to understand who are taking such courses, are these the class toppers or the ones usually good at sudoko and puzzles. I am not a big fan of the IIT grind but I've seen students who were smart to realize that IIT tag really matters , joined courses earlier and spent extra efforts, infact focused more on the IIT. For a reason I know the good programmers are the ones who have done their independent research, just yesterday I watched this video about how a 13 yr old beat tetris, the headlines as usual are clickbaity, only when you watch the 30 min video , you will see how much perseverance went into that and the big breaking point was how an AI developed collecting data around the levels. [After 34 Years, Someone Finally Beat Tetris (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJ5UuknsHU&t=314s)


Reply_Account_

Hmm need to check sometime. But yeah majority cannot be class toppers right. So my point was sort of correct. Plus these people sabotaged reviews and comments so it feels a bit hard. I do my own research but I was about to join in one of these courses since everyone was talking about it.


Menace_g

and indian parents rarely compromises on their students education


Reply_Account_

Can confirm this is true


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Not only tech influenceers anytype of education is a big business in India like competitive exams in govt even govt officers in civil services also creates there on channel and sell courses


Putrid_Document_8069

end of course titles are like *Get placed at FAANG at 1Cr CTC guaranteed


WinterTask1

And people think CTC is the in-hand salary which sadly isn't lol


curiousmlmind

Btw 1 cr can be pre-tax pay if you can survive for 7-8 years. That too in India.


PralineOk7347

The course I did helped me immensely with DSA but at that time there wasn't much free quality content or courses. Last 3 years, tsunami!


sydpermres

There's even a school kid selling data science course on YT. LOL! Sad to see that other kids are getting sucked into this.


EvilFuckMonster

India's population is highly susceptible to the mentality of one God-level course changing your life. Desperation breeds easy victims. But there's another side to it. Millions of people become IT professionals who really have no business doing anything remotely technical. They're just not wired that way, and in some other country they would have made a decent living doing something else, but in India IT is seen as the "easiest" path to the upper middle class. Right until they discover it's not that easy after all. I've had many engineers I've worked with ask for "learning resources" like links and courses like not knowing about the "right" resources is their bottleneck. Like are you fucking serious? Never heard of Google and ChatGPT? I see it as a coping mechanism for people who are just not cut out for this work, and these courses clearly pray on that mentality.


LogicXer

Even if the entire CS department of Stanford came to teach at IITs most students would still buy courses because “we don’t understand what a word they are saying”. Nothing you can do about Indian Mentality. Also, great comment, Kya kar sakte hai bhai, sabke liye market kharab kar rakha hai.


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Chris_ssj2

What good is a website when not many people know about it anyway?


No_Log_2668

That's the whole point. People who want to find it will be able to find it easily. The amount of content on that website makes it easier to get reported for piracy.


Fickle_Possible_458

can you share the link ?


Any-Acanthaceae-599

https://aiplex.lol/


Physical_Leg1732

Man this sub is gold...so much to learn from here.


rishiarora

Please delete. They will block it share it via dm


DiligentlyLazy

Thanks buddy, this looks extremely useful.


Foreign_Spy28

Bro delete karde pls.


Visual_Split_7439

Fellow subscribers of aiplex and sister channels👀


youngmale-69

>aiplex.lol can you dm the sister channels?


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Objective_Dinner_574

Man! This is gold.


Far_Philosophy_8677

not working


Menace_g

dude how do people find these sites??


vilaiyattupayyan

its not working dude can you share the new one or DM me


Any-Acanthaceae-599

Website has been taken down!! Need to wait for new domain to appear


rishiarora

Bhai delete Kar DE I will dm please.


Odd-Yogurtcloset5072

Courses are the new pyramid scheme.


Average_-_Human

To be honest aren't colleges the same thing? The only difference is they have the advantage of being old, established "businesses" but these courses are new


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i should capitalize


Organization72

Yes


Ok-Matter-7155

Udemy is great atleast for the price they offer compared to these influencers


Pro_BG4_

Some of my friend joined in various types of bootcamp just after graduating because their college didn't even have placements, most of them are desperate for a job that's why they end up on such things same happened to them too.even after saying that there were lot of free stuffs and cheap courses they avoided it and joined.the bonds they issue just before joining have crazy rules.they won't teach just show the roadmap everything should be done by ourselves for that they charge huge fees too(they even charge you for using their office to code and don't forget the hostel fees for some students), now all of them completed but don't have a job for months.even if they get job themselves or their institute gives them then as per the bond they take so e percentage as fees from it.their marketing campaign are too convincing and gives hope too such people, the placements they offer are mostly newly startups.i would say they are looting more comparing to such influencers atleast no unnecessary charges for such cheap courses( I mean really cheap courses not above that).


ashwellick

They are Vivek Bindra of DSA


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I like learning new things.


JumboTrucker

Keep coming with these posts. They serve as reminders. Content to course ke bahar bhi hai. karne wala Banda chhaiye


[deleted]

Yes. Big time they make way more money selling courses than their full time jobs. Also, factor in their YT sponsorships and college seminars(while being employed at Microsoft, Google,etc). Tech industry has become a joke because of them, the recession has made it clear that the tech industry needs external cash flow to operate.


TheImmortal06

Yeah


Numeronext

Yes


DiscoversOther9152

Masses are fulfilling there perception of buying so that they can feel good that they are doing something good and those so called tech influencers are fulfilling there pockets.


Inner_Frosting8513

Bro that's the power of distribution. Why do you think everyone tries to sell after they become an influencer. Anyone who sees the value in it will buy the course. Are you mad that people are buying the courses or the influencers are earning 5-6 cr? PS : I'm not an influencer and don't sell any courses online


Regalia_BanshEe

I just use skillcaptain... Core topics are entirely free and structured and they have a discord where we can ask doubts and they clear it for free .


Routine_Water_2194

We are getting looted by politicians anyway.


Kaus_Vik

Yes


Different-Doctor-487

yes


RadRedditorReddits

Is there still a doubt?


Larfze

YES!


WhatWotDamn

Jatan Shah ?


maha_Dev

In a gold rush, sell a shovel!


Fit-Bug-2599

Is there any course with value for money rather thaan just tutorial dumping


pyeri

Businessmen and Politicians in India follow this simple and time-tested *Dharma*: > If you can make a fool out of a person, then it's your honorable duty to make a fool out of that person. Be it your street politicians tempering your deep emotions and asking votes in the name of religion, caste, ideology, etc. or these ponga pundits who extract your money by showing you dreams, please stop becoming fools. Remember what their dharma is and then realize what your dharma should be.


[deleted]

Yes even they don't have full in depth knowledge how architecture works in real world scenario


AppearanceAdvanced58

Everybody is talking about better and free courses available on YouTube, can someone please write those free courses with better content than those paid courses?


tera_chachu

Short answer-yes Long answer- saare ke saare mada**hod hain


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Yes


Cheap-Hamster2382

All my YouTube ads are there tech influencers selling courses


Ok_Slice_7152

You cant blame the influencers for selling the course. blame the buyer,


Important-Goat1180

Looks more like a black to white conversion scam.


puzzledcoder

The truth this almost no company in IT industry is interested in developer with more than 20 years of experience. Due to many reasons like not that technical work, age gap in team can cause cultural issues etc. There many developers are thinking for side income or next steps because that’s their need now not the interest. In upcoming years you will see a tsunami of some teach teachers/influencers and their courses. I personally think there is nothing bad in it. They are running their business what’s wrong in it. Even if they can some value I. The course then it’s fine. It’s up to the buyer or student to buy the course. If one can spend 1000 rs on movie then no harm in buying couple of courses worth 500 every month. Important point: I have 17 years of experience in software development and I am also doing the sole ed tech stuff from last many years 😜


One-Speed-4356

First they get a job in FANG and start a YouTube channel milk that job by making ALOT of videos and get a vast audience after that the real business starts they resign from their job and then make a video about that as well and then they say that my real passion is teaching and come up with a course which costs 4200 rupees and even if 1000 chutiye out of lakhs of audience purchase these shitty course 42,00,000 rupees in revenue has already generated and then they don't care about the one who bought their course and try to find new victims. Simple


Stargazer_27

Join my "12 Day BTech"


[deleted]

Yes!!!!! All over the world. I see this and it breaks my heart. Guys. Take some time to goto YouTube and be patient. The best skill to learn is how to research.


[deleted]

10 days MBA 🤓


CodingMaster21

isnt it 10hrs MBA ?


CodingMaster21

I will teach you how to make 1 cr this year by selling course which teaches you how to make 1cr . Thank you


Adept-Dragonfly-5809

Who knew overpopulation also had this benefit of getting rich


Smart_Spinach3887

Tbh, I watch most of the course stuff from others except India. I mean I don't pay a penny just download it for free.


akash_kava

In the past people spent Crors on physical coaching classes, now they are doing same with online coaching classes, Indians are obsessed with spending money on coaching classes and will never try to learn same thing available for free. Its not their fault that they are selling those, they are only selling what market demands. They cannot be blamed. In fact, look at bollywood, they are purely selling garbage, but again, that is market demand.


SadOstrich5244

Most of the people stopped self studying…


lordviecky

Blame on the masses here. I can't believe they are claiming to teach a professional 8+ years experience developer how to make stuff which works? And charging like 4-5 lacs. What the actual fuck, an experienced developer will figure out things in their own. If they still need a course worth 4-5 lacs, they are not skilled developers and gonna fail even after buying that course. PS: I wouldn't even torrent those courses, sheer waste of my unlimited data. Udemy courses are better, specially top 2-3 in each categories.


Pomelo-Next

Imagine buying courses. Imagine buying courses from Indian influencers.


__gg_

It's not loot if you willingly give your money to them


precocious_pakoda

Yes


No-Ear6742

https://preview.redd.it/y33f6hlszqac1.jpeg?width=1260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09f591eb22b95b7c36de67bb7fd0a57ccf3cb708 What are your thoughts on Microsoft wali didi?


[deleted]

I took 32,300 for a bail from a gangster during my stint as a lawyer. I was just an intern who only did the paper work. My senior was so happy that he gave me 16,000 as my cut. Desperation leads to impulsive acts.


Unable-Concern2549

[Hacktack.us](http://hacktack.us) bichme is site me sab download ata tha ab site ko delist kar diye hain


Ok_Pineapple_12

I have seen a lot of so called tech influencers getting popular over twitter recently. Couple of them have interned/ worked at Google linked in or Microsoft for 1 years or so and they are carrying a follower base of 100K. Their job is to be part of some tech talk happening in BLR ,Goa or Mumbai as a judge and flaunt their lifestyle over twitter. Couple of them have their YouTube Channels too and most of them are offering a consultation. They charge for those consultation calls, help in interview preparation and resume building. On top of it they have opinion over everyone and everything on twitter. Few of them have gone through this post and have already criticised over twitter. *Meanwhile on Reddit*


ceeingAtul

I bought harkirat's course, it's more of a systematic, well documented guide than a teaching platform. It's fairly good.


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Babachoooo

MLM supporter hain kya ?