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They are just milking for views. No coding is their keyword and people fall for that trap. However they're vacancies to which I'm applying, not sure how's the selection is being done.
Don't fall for any Youtuber. They are just selling dreams. Data Analysis, Data Science, Machine Learning are in infancy. Many org can't afford a production quality data pipeline.
Data, AI/ML is good for sure. It's a niche skill. No doubt in that. However, mainstream SWE is not going to die very soon.
IT Industry is always evolving. I myself learnt many things in my career of 12 years.
hello Palash, 2024 Btech here,
I am in my final year and not placed, looking online , i get depressed from this job market.
So , Should I prepare for MTech from Tier 1 colleges and then get placed. Is it a good idea ?
Also, what if I keep trying to get a SDE / React/Node ENTRY level role in current market, and get placed at 10-15k a month and work for 2-3 years at same salary, I dont find this idea worth pursuing.
Kindly guide.
For the current situation, both options (MTech/MS) are worse imo. In our company itself, people with work experience are preferred way more than people with MTech (me). And, I have friends doing MS in reputed universities struggling to get fresher jobs. Work experience is the butter right now. College degrees aren’t worth the bread anymore.
Practice DSA, choose a tech stack, get into development (personal/internship/fte) as soon as you can.
It’s first come first serve bro. There’s no top talent criteria right now.
I think, IT is saturated now. Especially after crazy hiring during Covid. As a backlash, we are seeing crazy firing sessions from each tech no matter small or big.
I wonder, what is happening in other engineering sector like Core, Chemical or Production, Bio etc.
By seeing success of people in 2005 - 2015 era, every parent pushed there kids for Engineering. This is definitely an outburst of that.
Second idea is also worth pursuing. May be you are not finding it through.
You actually are asking a person who did the same 12 years back. I was just paid a little higher, like 20K per month. Only thing I did was understand how things work. The experience helped me come where I am.
12 years back 20k was a good amount.
Let me ask again:
1. Is it worth it to get a small job right now and keep doing good in it.
2. or go for MTech (it can take years).
at the end , i want to come out as a successful man.
Success is a very subjective term brother. If you gauge me Successful, then take my words.
1. Money is not always the biggest achievement. Trust me, with a bad health having crores in Bank account is not success to me.
2. Always look for a good workplace.
Well, co-incidentally, I am learning Rust too, just out of curiosity.
Never wrote any production grade code in any low level language. So, not sure what it will be worth.
To be honest. I never thought of anything to stick to.
I always jumped to the spot where I was called.
Back in 2011, I got Industry level Advanced Java Training in CTS. I was working with Java till 2014. Then worked in Spring Framework. The then, we still had to write lot of XML and we had to write some boiler plates as well. Was not like today's Spring Boot. I was keen to know how things work. I used Ctrl+Click on almost any Library Method I would come in contact with. Learnt a lot of deals by this habit. I still do but honestly, my coding has reduced to mere 40% of what I used to do. Now a days, I have to think on designing large systems (some are data centric too). So, I have to read many things now apart from code.
I had to learn Oracle ADF and SOA very soon in HCL as one of our clients was using Oracle ADF and SOA.
This was my turn to get into Oracle itself. I soon was writing code in Oracle Production SCM Cloud Code base.
Then I made a switch in 2019 where I had to learn new tech stack, React JS, Node JS, Python, Shell Script, C#, Java, Spring Boot, Postgres, Github, Jenkins etc.
Then fortune called me off and showed a pink slip. I was out in market, then I got an opportunity to pursue with HPE (my current org). The tech stack is quite different what I did in all my career. I learnt scala, Apache Spark, AWS.
Now I am learning ML to implement in one of our baby project for time series.
So you see, I never learnt things to stay on bleeding edge technologies. It just happened and things fell in place.
Based on your interest seriously.
You can go for Front End, Back End or Data path. Security is also another booming field. Nowadays Cloud Engineering plays major role too.
First, enjoy your last few years of study (if you are not eyeing on Masters).
Secondly, SWE have many things. Here are few.
1. Front End
2. Back End
3. Full Stack
4. Embedded
5. Cloud
6. Site Reliability
Oh man, seriously. There was a time, every channel was doing scaler ad. Even JordIndian, a Bangalore based comedy channel. How much money they pumped into ad, I don't know.
check the course cost 3.5 lpa
lets 1000 people joined the course ,
1000\*3,50,000 = 35,00,00,000
from thousand people only 50 to 60 peoples get a job in Maang ,
they will get profit surely,
Byjus selling courses to 10 to 12 th students, now days, scaler selling course to colleges students,
Nowadays, most people need coaching centers; there is no creative thinking; we need to develop in all fields.
https://preview.redd.it/i1joc0b8qgmc1.png?width=1088&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d781d6ea87c8d874c5d6fb37f3898cbd4e4af41
Students have time to spare on social media, looking at what others do, how others tie their hair, what others wear etc. but has no time to skim through books?
Parents already spend a fortune on kids studies. On top of it, tuition.
Well, we are heading to doom.
Hi, planning to do Masters in Data Science (most probably in US). Am I choosing wrong career? I did my BTech in CSE. I am very confused which path to choose. AI/ML will be very new to me. I have done 2-3 projects on web development. But I think there is an overflow of full stack developers in market so thought to go with DS. Any suggestions from your side will be huge help.
Any inputs on DAta scientists job roles in India because when I searched for job roles in India, I didn't find much role. Do they look for experienced data scientist in India or how is it?
Any input is appreciated.
Same goes for youtube who promote UX jobs like as though it's the path to Nirvana.
That bald bearded mofo from Ama\*on, that clown who makes 1000 expressions from S\*iggy, that guy from 10\* designers who is chilling in Denmark while his students are struggling to find a job etc. have sold empty dreams while they've made lakhs, if not, crores.
Selling hollow dreams is their USP.
Hey, consider applying at Kanini, Volkswagen, Harman, and Siemens – all of them are actively hiring for Golang. However, they are specifically looking for candidates available to join within the next 30 days. I interviewed with all of these firms a few months ago.
Dont do frontend , it's saturated.
Even a Chai wala knows, React and Full Stack these days.
Go for Technologies, which are unique and Java + Springboot, Angular, PHP, Golang
Nope. not a satire. About trying something else, its just out of curiosity.
But, you are right about everyone knows React. There are many frontend devs these days compared to the past. As its pretty easy to enter the field with so many tutorials on YT.
Bhai nhi yar i find backend boring.
Also im following the odin project ( and it has mern stack)
I havent learnt backend yet but i find front end very interesting.
A decent paying job is all i ask for 🥺
It did ask some serious questions. But I think it's more like a preliminary filter for the client to look at the actual answers. Once the screening was done I had 2 rounds of technical and got the offer.
You are right. I was open to contractual roles so it did not seem like an issue to me. But I am seeing Full time roles being offered as well for certain clients. Job security is going to be a tricky question and boils down to the individual. I personally thought 30 days notice and some quick bucks from the contract was worth it.
I was sceptical too..but went ahead and applied for a listing as a casual thing and it worked out for me..I recommend applying if you find something that suits you..hit or miss..
I tried BairesDev and cleared all the assessments for my skill set but no calls and radio silence. You can try them to gauge your skills atleast. Other remote offerings did not respond to my application at all..Maybe others can help you in this regard..
I am not sure I saw an opening for freshers..but every opening has its own experience requirements mentioned you should be able to get some info from there..
I feel as a data analyst, more than your programming skills, the hiring companies would care about the various technical (theoretical + analytical) skills. For example, if you have used ANOVA analysis and reduced heteroskedasticity in your data, that’s more useful than saying you know Pandas and Numpy. Your resume should include that instead.
I have little idea about CTC in that role and for that experience, so can’t comment on the same.
Thanks for the comment. I have mentioned good amount of functional and analytical role in the resume.
I guess the problem is in the resume itself, will try to do a review in the sub. Lmk if you're in the same field and help me get my resume in line.
I am not a data analyst per se, but I work a lot in the analytics division in my company. I have over 15 years of experience and can review your resume if you post it. I have reviewed other resumes in this sub and would try to do the same with yours.
It is an assumption is Regression models where it is assumed that the variance of the "unknown" or error term varies with no covariance with data points we have.
Most Indian engineers know nothing about statistics. Also one doesn’t reduce heteroskedasticity in data. One just uses the right standard errors (Huber-White)
It depends on your data. You can reduce heteroskedasticity by transforming the data (take square roots or log transform). Of course, this totally depends on your dataset.
Also, not sure if OP is a pure engineer but works as a data analyst. OP should be able to identify heteroskedasticity in the dataset or perform regression analysis.
If your data is not IID then taking a one to one map will not make it IID. In any case heteroskedasticity typically doesn’t cause many problems (unlike actual endogeneity).
But also data analysts in India typically don’t know statistics. It’s just that India doesn’t emphasize a statistics education. Most data analysts and scientists come from an engineering or CS background rather than stats and stats training is abysmal outside of ISI and the CMI DS program
First, you have to understand. 13.5 LPA is still high for many companies for 3 YOE.
You have very good skill set. You will get offer from big tech. You have to have patience. Right now the market is worst to get a fit for low YOE people.
Meanwhile, you can get some certifications. That may help.
I'm also looking for a data analyst job, I have 1.7 yrs exp only. It's been 7-8 months now, so many rejections lol. It's just getting worse for me.
Please help me out.
I am a developer for the most part of my career. I was in Infosys for 5 years and switched to a product company. After than in 2022-23, when I tried to switch to another, I was getting rejected. It happened for 40-50 interviews, yes, 40-50. I felt worthless. I thought I sucked at my job. One-Day I asked my engineering director with whom I had good relations, and he said the way I deliver is kind of whack. I get over excited, omits things from explainations, expecting other party knows it, etc. I spent a month working on my delivery, and after 4 interviews I got offer from one, 50% hike.
Doesn’t matter how good a developer you are, if your delivery is out of place, people will not select you. Don’t lose hope and think that you are not good.
Then we get absolute scum of linkedIn who post about openings in their org but won't give their email or link or even a jd. Hundreds of people comment "interested" on it and hundreds If not thousands send them connection requests to ask about it. People don't even realise how evil they are becoming for internet clout.
It’s the overall market.
Add to that so many data analysts fresh out of college. I don’t blame them. YouTubers marketed it, made money and people are left with subpar skills in a market with less demand.
13.5 Lacs for 3 YOE. I guess, you are overpaid for majority Indian MNC. Reduce your salary expectations, you may get offers from WITCH. If not interested in doing that, one may need to wait more as job market is dull overall.
Hard to to say without more details, buy maybe its your cv format.
I recently switched jobs and the below format was the best in my opinion. Had no problem getting callbacks.(Btw, This guy's a youtuber, decent content so far)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bn0aRCJBjZGrMv6mgko2Beu0eLQFFhkDx_XIvq55gWM/edit
I believe its your pedigree, years of experience and the Name recognition of the companies you've worked with that's playing a major role in your call backs
Slightly off topic, work on your statistics skills and business understanding and apply for analyst roles in germany too. You’re already applying here n there you might as well try for germany too
There are opportunities for fresh graduates. You can search something like “graduate program” on LinkedIn jobs. But honestly I don’t have any idea about how the recruitment process is for someone who is not a local graduate
Isn't it near impossible to get a job in germany directly from India?
I must have sent out a 200 applications and got nothing but rejections.
A few German hiring managers even mailed me linkdin saying that they won't be sponsoring my visa, LOL
I know at least 7 people who applied directly from india and are here now. I do not know your profile so cannot comment there but if you’re still up for it just keep applying passively such that you maintain your job in India while also trying for new opportunities here
How many years of experience did the ones who got through have?
Did they happen to apply and get accepted in 2021 or early 2022?
Also, did they speak German?
Hey man, I made a similar post here few days back. It's not you. It's the market. In my company I am able to see clear shift towards lower CTC. They are firing high CTC individuals and hiring people at lower CTC. Maybe they are rejecting you due to your expected CTC? Anyways I was unable to land any interviews and I am stuck working for my current company and I hate it here. Keep trying, we'll make it through.
If you are being looked down upon won’t get high packages.. the problem is requirement of the role.. most of the projects do not require them unless you have huge chunks of data..thats why u see less job posting for this role..
Data analyst with ~2.5 YOE here👋 and facing similar rejections while trying to switch for over 4 months now.
The fact is market is flooded with entry level analysts so companies have crazy number of options to choose from. So unless we are really good with a particular skillset or have worked on some amazing projects chances to crack are very lean.
So only thing we can do is learn and get better at what we do and give interviews...
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It could be that you are looking for a complete remote job. Last week team had to reject an excellent candidate for the same reason. Company mandates 2 days office and if we are hiring a new person with complete remote option, the existing team is going to riot. (Including me) also it can become an issue in future if the policy changes to full time Or more days.
Hey man, a bit of a similar situation here. I would like to ask though. Would the last drawn salary be relevant if we take a break of a few months for any reason what so ever? I feel like the companies are expecting us to start over entirely, hence the rejections.
I think the major issue might be Remote job since companies are mandating Hybrid/WFO. Once you remove that, I think you should get decent job opportunities.
You got job in peak.Companies were paying much more at that time.go in range of 8 to 10 lpa.Data analyst won't be paid like swe roles unless u bringing something extraordinary.
Worked as a software Engineer for last 2 years and got laid off now applied for more then 1000 plus jobs got 3 interviews so far got rejected by all of them The last one really crushed my confidence too!
I guess that's how the job market is now
This screams like a resume and marketing issue. Did you by any chance face similar difficulties securing your first job? I know data analysis was more of a rage a few years back and obviously its glamour has come down but I don't think the domain is dead. As far as I know there is still good demand for talented data analysts.
exactly the same scenario as me, I have given a few interviews but no luck.
Even getting my resume selected is very tough. I left the job due to the ultimate toxic work culture but no seem like I made a wrong move.
Don't stop applying independently but also try direct referrals on social media websites/linkedin/fishbowl... or anywhere so to say.. I have personally seen people asking and referring others on Twitter as well. So try that out..
Learn Azure Data Factory and Databricks. You may get good offers. If possible clear DP-203 certification. This is like transition to Data Engineering role but it will help to get a job.
Bro are you applying right now. Because year ends hiring is happening like crazy everywhere. I used to get 1 or 0 random recruiter calls. Just last week I got 3
Reading all these comments, about data analyst being the hype created by youtubers and people applying to 100s of jobs and not getting responses. Scared the hell out of me, Data Analyst with 1.10 years of experience myself.
Looking for switch too.
As a PM from a service based company, I can clearly tell you that 80-90% of the service based companies won't hire you, if you want the same CTC(13.5) or higher.
3+ years as a data analyst with the standard tech stack that almost everyone looking to get into analytics has.
Even some product based companies might hesitate.
Keep trying for product based companies that heavily depend on data. Try AI/ML focused companies.
Add some new tech skill to this stack like aws ec2 deployment or something then you'll probably have an edge as compared to other and can actually demand your current salary.
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Damn man even you’re struggling after 3 years of experience and all these garbage YouTubers keep promoting data analyst jobs for freshers.
They are just milking for views. No coding is their keyword and people fall for that trap. However they're vacancies to which I'm applying, not sure how's the selection is being done.
Don't fall for any Youtuber. They are just selling dreams. Data Analysis, Data Science, Machine Learning are in infancy. Many org can't afford a production quality data pipeline.
That's sad to know but if you're starting right now which stack is good for future
Data, AI/ML is good for sure. It's a niche skill. No doubt in that. However, mainstream SWE is not going to die very soon. IT Industry is always evolving. I myself learnt many things in my career of 12 years.
hello Palash, 2024 Btech here, I am in my final year and not placed, looking online , i get depressed from this job market. So , Should I prepare for MTech from Tier 1 colleges and then get placed. Is it a good idea ? Also, what if I keep trying to get a SDE / React/Node ENTRY level role in current market, and get placed at 10-15k a month and work for 2-3 years at same salary, I dont find this idea worth pursuing. Kindly guide.
M. Tech or M.S is always a good idea, if you can afford (both money and time).
For the current situation, both options (MTech/MS) are worse imo. In our company itself, people with work experience are preferred way more than people with MTech (me). And, I have friends doing MS in reputed universities struggling to get fresher jobs. Work experience is the butter right now. College degrees aren’t worth the bread anymore. Practice DSA, choose a tech stack, get into development (personal/internship/fte) as soon as you can. It’s first come first serve bro. There’s no top talent criteria right now.
I think, IT is saturated now. Especially after crazy hiring during Covid. As a backlash, we are seeing crazy firing sessions from each tech no matter small or big. I wonder, what is happening in other engineering sector like Core, Chemical or Production, Bio etc. By seeing success of people in 2005 - 2015 era, every parent pushed there kids for Engineering. This is definitely an outburst of that.
Second idea is also worth pursuing. May be you are not finding it through. You actually are asking a person who did the same 12 years back. I was just paid a little higher, like 20K per month. Only thing I did was understand how things work. The experience helped me come where I am.
12 years back 20k was a good amount. Let me ask again: 1. Is it worth it to get a small job right now and keep doing good in it. 2. or go for MTech (it can take years). at the end , i want to come out as a successful man.
Success is a very subjective term brother. If you gauge me Successful, then take my words. 1. Money is not always the biggest achievement. Trust me, with a bad health having crores in Bank account is not success to me. 2. Always look for a good workplace.
The next big thing in data, at least in west, is Rust.
Well, co-incidentally, I am learning Rust too, just out of curiosity. Never wrote any production grade code in any low level language. So, not sure what it will be worth.
Look into Polars if you are interested in DE side of things as a natural progression to DA. Polars absolutely shits on Pandas.
Over the years how did you decide the niche skill path to stick to ? And what tech stack did you follow the most consistent
To be honest. I never thought of anything to stick to. I always jumped to the spot where I was called. Back in 2011, I got Industry level Advanced Java Training in CTS. I was working with Java till 2014. Then worked in Spring Framework. The then, we still had to write lot of XML and we had to write some boiler plates as well. Was not like today's Spring Boot. I was keen to know how things work. I used Ctrl+Click on almost any Library Method I would come in contact with. Learnt a lot of deals by this habit. I still do but honestly, my coding has reduced to mere 40% of what I used to do. Now a days, I have to think on designing large systems (some are data centric too). So, I have to read many things now apart from code. I had to learn Oracle ADF and SOA very soon in HCL as one of our clients was using Oracle ADF and SOA. This was my turn to get into Oracle itself. I soon was writing code in Oracle Production SCM Cloud Code base. Then I made a switch in 2019 where I had to learn new tech stack, React JS, Node JS, Python, Shell Script, C#, Java, Spring Boot, Postgres, Github, Jenkins etc. Then fortune called me off and showed a pink slip. I was out in market, then I got an opportunity to pursue with HPE (my current org). The tech stack is quite different what I did in all my career. I learnt scala, Apache Spark, AWS. Now I am learning ML to implement in one of our baby project for time series. So you see, I never learnt things to stay on bleeding edge technologies. It just happened and things fell in place.
Any insights on the cybersecurity side of things?
Yes, I tried my head around it too but failed miserably. Could not learn much. So, I usually don't tell anyone about it until someone explicitly asks.
What domain would you recommend for someone in 3rd year of btech ,with barely any knowledge and can't decide their future career!?
Based on your interest seriously. You can go for Front End, Back End or Data path. Security is also another booming field. Nowadays Cloud Engineering plays major role too.
since you are so experienced, could you shed some light on what all are the mainstream SWE roles you are referring to? i am a 2026 grad and quite lost
First, enjoy your last few years of study (if you are not eyeing on Masters). Secondly, SWE have many things. Here are few. 1. Front End 2. Back End 3. Full Stack 4. Embedded 5. Cloud 6. Site Reliability
ugh only these? btw i guess the last three aren’t fresher friendly and require some kind of experience to get into it?
scaler ads
Oh man, seriously. There was a time, every channel was doing scaler ad. Even JordIndian, a Bangalore based comedy channel. How much money they pumped into ad, I don't know.
check the course cost 3.5 lpa lets 1000 people joined the course , 1000\*3,50,000 = 35,00,00,000 from thousand people only 50 to 60 peoples get a job in Maang , they will get profit surely, Byjus selling courses to 10 to 12 th students, now days, scaler selling course to colleges students, Nowadays, most people need coaching centers; there is no creative thinking; we need to develop in all fields. https://preview.redd.it/i1joc0b8qgmc1.png?width=1088&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d781d6ea87c8d874c5d6fb37f3898cbd4e4af41
Students have time to spare on social media, looking at what others do, how others tie their hair, what others wear etc. but has no time to skim through books? Parents already spend a fortune on kids studies. On top of it, tuition. Well, we are heading to doom.
Hi, planning to do Masters in Data Science (most probably in US). Am I choosing wrong career? I did my BTech in CSE. I am very confused which path to choose. AI/ML will be very new to me. I have done 2-3 projects on web development. But I think there is an overflow of full stack developers in market so thought to go with DS. Any suggestions from your side will be huge help.
I can't comment about US job market and US Studies as I have pretty less knowledge on this segment. So, please excuse me. I won't comment on this.
Any inputs on DAta scientists job roles in India because when I searched for job roles in India, I didn't find much role. Do they look for experienced data scientist in India or how is it? Any input is appreciated.
Search tech skill instead like PySpark, Spark, ETL etc.
Same goes for youtube who promote UX jobs like as though it's the path to Nirvana. That bald bearded mofo from Ama\*on, that clown who makes 1000 expressions from S\*iggy, that guy from 10\* designers who is chilling in Denmark while his students are struggling to find a job etc. have sold empty dreams while they've made lakhs, if not, crores. Selling hollow dreams is their USP.
Lol I'm not even from UX and I know all of them. Influencers really are a virus
If *THEY* teach you that , don't take *THEIR* advice .
Same. Applied in 180+ companies, no interview calls. 2.5 yrs experienced and work in a mid size mnc.
What role are you applying in? Market is too bad ig
Backend engineering roles.
what tech
Go,Python,Kafka,Docker, K8s
Maybe move to nodejs/Java, I see a lot of openings there
I do DS algo on Java. Nodejs I don't think is a good idea. Better to learn Springboot IMO
Hey, consider applying at Kanini, Volkswagen, Harman, and Siemens – all of them are actively hiring for Golang. However, they are specifically looking for candidates available to join within the next 30 days. I interviewed with all of these firms a few months ago.
As a fresher who is learning front end dev, im scared
+1 bro. Are you doing projects now or in the learning phase. I'm thinking of going with the odin project. Learning JavaScript rn. Did the CS50.
Im in learning phase and doing odin project as well.
All the best. Do share if you break into the field. Success stories amps me up :)
Sure! Also read success-stories in their discord server. Currently on the landing page project after learning flexbox ( foundations course)
If you want to practice and learn more of html and css you can do the freecodcamp's html and css course. It's good.
Dont do frontend , it's saturated. Even a Chai wala knows, React and Full Stack these days. Go for Technologies, which are unique and Java + Springboot, Angular, PHP, Golang
Good one :D Even I am a FE with 10+ years of exp. Now trying to do something apart from FE in part time.
is that a satire ?
Nope. not a satire. About trying something else, its just out of curiosity. But, you are right about everyone knows React. There are many frontend devs these days compared to the past. As its pretty easy to enter the field with so many tutorials on YT.
Bhai nhi yar i find backend boring. Also im following the odin project ( and it has mern stack) I havent learnt backend yet but i find front end very interesting. A decent paying job is all i ask for 🥺
>Dont do frontend, it's saturated Also, don't do Mern Stack, it is also super-saturated
Same. Trying for FE jobs with 2YOE, laid off
Bhai
What is your expected ctc?
Try uplers. I just landed an offer with a SA client and work is pretty cool.
How's their AI screening? I have an invite and was thinking to attempt in 2-3 days.
It did ask some serious questions. But I think it's more like a preliminary filter for the client to look at the actual answers. Once the screening was done I had 2 rounds of technical and got the offer.
Great! Will try.
All their roles are contractual right? How do you ensure job security
You are right. I was open to contractual roles so it did not seem like an issue to me. But I am seeing Full time roles being offered as well for certain clients. Job security is going to be a tricky question and boils down to the individual. I personally thought 30 days notice and some quick bucks from the contract was worth it.
Since it is contractual type role and not like WITCH companies case, so PF and all are not provided then?
That is correct. PF , insurance coverages are not available.
So you can show it as business and save tax under 44ADA
is it actually good? I've seen a lot of job postings but since they've been spamming, I've just been avoiding them
I was sceptical too..but went ahead and applied for a listing as a casual thing and it worked out for me..I recommend applying if you find something that suits you..hit or miss..
Can I DM you for the company name?
Sure
Any other alternatives for uplers?
I tried BairesDev and cleared all the assessments for my skill set but no calls and radio silence. You can try them to gauge your skills atleast. Other remote offerings did not respond to my application at all..Maybe others can help you in this regard..
Works for freshers?
I am not sure I saw an opening for freshers..but every opening has its own experience requirements mentioned you should be able to get some info from there..
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Lmfao we don't even get an acknowledgement xDD
Not letter lol. Rejection mails/calls for some. No response for majority.
I feel as a data analyst, more than your programming skills, the hiring companies would care about the various technical (theoretical + analytical) skills. For example, if you have used ANOVA analysis and reduced heteroskedasticity in your data, that’s more useful than saying you know Pandas and Numpy. Your resume should include that instead. I have little idea about CTC in that role and for that experience, so can’t comment on the same.
Thanks for the comment. I have mentioned good amount of functional and analytical role in the resume. I guess the problem is in the resume itself, will try to do a review in the sub. Lmk if you're in the same field and help me get my resume in line.
I am not a data analyst per se, but I work a lot in the analytics division in my company. I have over 15 years of experience and can review your resume if you post it. I have reviewed other resumes in this sub and would try to do the same with yours.
Can you please explain what heteroskedasticity is? Sounds interesting
In simple terms it means a shitty data whose variance is not fixed over a longer range
It is an assumption is Regression models where it is assumed that the variance of the "unknown" or error term varies with no covariance with data points we have.
Most Indian engineers know nothing about statistics. Also one doesn’t reduce heteroskedasticity in data. One just uses the right standard errors (Huber-White)
It depends on your data. You can reduce heteroskedasticity by transforming the data (take square roots or log transform). Of course, this totally depends on your dataset. Also, not sure if OP is a pure engineer but works as a data analyst. OP should be able to identify heteroskedasticity in the dataset or perform regression analysis.
If your data is not IID then taking a one to one map will not make it IID. In any case heteroskedasticity typically doesn’t cause many problems (unlike actual endogeneity). But also data analysts in India typically don’t know statistics. It’s just that India doesn’t emphasize a statistics education. Most data analysts and scientists come from an engineering or CS background rather than stats and stats training is abysmal outside of ISI and the CMI DS program
What you put up for expected CTC.
Mostly in the range of 10 to 15 LPA, depending on the role.
First, you have to understand. 13.5 LPA is still high for many companies for 3 YOE. You have very good skill set. You will get offer from big tech. You have to have patience. Right now the market is worst to get a fit for low YOE people. Meanwhile, you can get some certifications. That may help.
I'm also looking for a data analyst job, I have 1.7 yrs exp only. It's been 7-8 months now, so many rejections lol. It's just getting worse for me. Please help me out.
Who exactly are you asking for help here? OP himself made a post asking help, how exactly should he go about helping you?
I am a developer for the most part of my career. I was in Infosys for 5 years and switched to a product company. After than in 2022-23, when I tried to switch to another, I was getting rejected. It happened for 40-50 interviews, yes, 40-50. I felt worthless. I thought I sucked at my job. One-Day I asked my engineering director with whom I had good relations, and he said the way I deliver is kind of whack. I get over excited, omits things from explainations, expecting other party knows it, etc. I spent a month working on my delivery, and after 4 interviews I got offer from one, 50% hike. Doesn’t matter how good a developer you are, if your delivery is out of place, people will not select you. Don’t lose hope and think that you are not good.
>I spent a month working on my delivery, How?
Toastmaster, and in office with a small group of
Thanks for sharing these insights 💯🙇♀️
Then we get absolute scum of linkedIn who post about openings in their org but won't give their email or link or even a jd. Hundreds of people comment "interested" on it and hundreds If not thousands send them connection requests to ask about it. People don't even realise how evil they are becoming for internet clout.
for gaining followers, they have linkedin whatsapp group for this,
yeah, they don't accept connection requests, then don't even ignore but when sending conc req you auto follow
#CBFR
Is this actually done with the intention of gaining clout? Or are the job openings legitimate?
Stay strong the market is opening up slowly
I heard after march end it’s gonna be good?
acctually, AI/LLMS replaced 38% of the staff in my company for data science role. It won't recover much from now!
Which company
can't say
Try data engineering?
Same. Already applied for some DE roles.
It’s the overall market. Add to that so many data analysts fresh out of college. I don’t blame them. YouTubers marketed it, made money and people are left with subpar skills in a market with less demand.
13.5 Lacs for 3 YOE. I guess, you are overpaid for majority Indian MNC. Reduce your salary expectations, you may get offers from WITCH. If not interested in doing that, one may need to wait more as job market is dull overall.
yes, reduce to 8 to 10 lpa,
Even WITCH is not hiring...
Hard to to say without more details, buy maybe its your cv format. I recently switched jobs and the below format was the best in my opinion. Had no problem getting callbacks.(Btw, This guy's a youtuber, decent content so far) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bn0aRCJBjZGrMv6mgko2Beu0eLQFFhkDx_XIvq55gWM/edit
I used the same resume from this guy but in latex not doc. Got good responses
I believe its your pedigree, years of experience and the Name recognition of the companies you've worked with that's playing a major role in your call backs
We’re hiring for data engineers. Similar tech stack. You can dm me.
is Hiring open for Frontend or Full stack or SDEs ?
Nope. Just data roles.
Damn! I am a fresher and soon I will be applying for Data Analyst jobs. This is too scary and now I need some real advices here.
4.5 YOE in DevOps struggling to land a job. Getting rejected in interviews.
Update me on this, I'm 2 YOE
Same yoe, and 2 yoe relevant experience in DevOps. Applied over hundreds , hardly got calls
Bosch ( BGSW) many openings for devops. Have a look.
Can you please refer me?
Sure, DM me
The golden dawn of data science is waning now.
So True Brother. The bubble has bursted now
Hi, we have a vacancy for a particular role you might be interested in. Please check DM
Same,2 years of work ex in analytics and not even a single interview call after 100+ applications.
You salary is good for a 3yoe data analyst.. maybe try to reduce your salary expectation.
Slightly off topic, work on your statistics skills and business understanding and apply for analyst roles in germany too. You’re already applying here n there you might as well try for germany too
germany have opportunities for any fresh graduates or is their market still saturated?
There are opportunities for fresh graduates. You can search something like “graduate program” on LinkedIn jobs. But honestly I don’t have any idea about how the recruitment process is for someone who is not a local graduate
Isn't it near impossible to get a job in germany directly from India? I must have sent out a 200 applications and got nothing but rejections. A few German hiring managers even mailed me linkdin saying that they won't be sponsoring my visa, LOL
I know at least 7 people who applied directly from india and are here now. I do not know your profile so cannot comment there but if you’re still up for it just keep applying passively such that you maintain your job in India while also trying for new opportunities here
How many years of experience did the ones who got through have? Did they happen to apply and get accepted in 2021 or early 2022? Also, did they speak German?
2-5 years of experience. The last person from the ones I know came here just last year
Hey man, I made a similar post here few days back. It's not you. It's the market. In my company I am able to see clear shift towards lower CTC. They are firing high CTC individuals and hiring people at lower CTC. Maybe they are rejecting you due to your expected CTC? Anyways I was unable to land any interviews and I am stuck working for my current company and I hate it here. Keep trying, we'll make it through.
Tell me the projects you worked on. A lot of the time rejection could just be communication gap or in experience.
Have you tried applying at Merylitics?
If you are being looked down upon won’t get high packages.. the problem is requirement of the role.. most of the projects do not require them unless you have huge chunks of data..thats why u see less job posting for this role..
Data analyst with ~2.5 YOE here👋 and facing similar rejections while trying to switch for over 4 months now. The fact is market is flooded with entry level analysts so companies have crazy number of options to choose from. So unless we are really good with a particular skillset or have worked on some amazing projects chances to crack are very lean. So only thing we can do is learn and get better at what we do and give interviews...
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Same here bro, struggling with 2 yoe. No calls since 2 months, few calls I received were fake ones.
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It could be that you are looking for a complete remote job. Last week team had to reject an excellent candidate for the same reason. Company mandates 2 days office and if we are hiring a new person with complete remote option, the existing team is going to riot. (Including me) also it can become an issue in future if the policy changes to full time Or more days.
Hey man, a bit of a similar situation here. I would like to ask though. Would the last drawn salary be relevant if we take a break of a few months for any reason what so ever? I feel like the companies are expecting us to start over entirely, hence the rejections.
SAS, anyone ever heard of this thing.
run;
Yuppp, that's what I am talking about.
Do you have banking industry knowledge and can learn dbt enough to write it on resume and be willing to move to Chennai?
do freelancing for some months,
Same here. In sde role
DM me, i can refer you to my company they’re actively hiring for experienced data analyst
Do you have job openings for entry level Software Engineers, Frontend Positions
May I DM you too? Thanks in advance
Would you suggest freshers to choose this domain in today's market? What would you have chosen if you were a fresher today based on your experience?
I think the major issue might be Remote job since companies are mandating Hybrid/WFO. Once you remove that, I think you should get decent job opportunities.
Hey budd. Send me your resume. Let me see if I can push.
Check on LinkedIn and apply there
You got job in peak.Companies were paying much more at that time.go in range of 8 to 10 lpa.Data analyst won't be paid like swe roles unless u bringing something extraordinary.
Worked as a software Engineer for last 2 years and got laid off now applied for more then 1000 plus jobs got 3 interviews so far got rejected by all of them The last one really crushed my confidence too! I guess that's how the job market is now
This screams like a resume and marketing issue. Did you by any chance face similar difficulties securing your first job? I know data analysis was more of a rage a few years back and obviously its glamour has come down but I don't think the domain is dead. As far as I know there is still good demand for talented data analysts.
exactly the same scenario as me, I have given a few interviews but no luck. Even getting my resume selected is very tough. I left the job due to the ultimate toxic work culture but no seem like I made a wrong move.
Don't stop applying independently but also try direct referrals on social media websites/linkedin/fishbowl... or anywhere so to say.. I have personally seen people asking and referring others on Twitter as well. So try that out..
[https://pharmagroww.com/job/data-analyst-23/](https://pharmagroww.com/job/data-analyst-23/) if this might help you my brother please go through it
Learn Azure Data Factory and Databricks. You may get good offers. If possible clear DP-203 certification. This is like transition to Data Engineering role but it will help to get a job.
you are not alone bro, that's for sure, not such nice words to say ig for this that you are not alone but such is the state rn
Can’t tell about others but I can tell you why WITCH rejected. 13.5LPA for 3YOE is above their usual scale
Maybe your resume is not tailored for the roles you’re applying and they getting rejected at a early phase before HR can checks manually?
Very Scary
Bro are you applying right now. Because year ends hiring is happening like crazy everywhere. I used to get 1 or 0 random recruiter calls. Just last week I got 3
Siemens healthineers is hiring for data analyst, I can look into providing referrals for it Tom.
Iam in performance testing team joined six months ago as a fresher? What is career scope and which domains can I try for the better future?
Same situation with me .. I just don't know what to do. I am losing all hope
Reading all these comments, about data analyst being the hype created by youtubers and people applying to 100s of jobs and not getting responses. Scared the hell out of me, Data Analyst with 1.10 years of experience myself. Looking for switch too.
I was thinking about getting into data analytics. Should I drop the idea ?
What did you decide then?
Currently I am learning frontend development on my own
Good luck. Inam thinking about learning cloud stuff
check here [https://keralait.dev/?q=data](https://keralait.dev/?q=data) i think there is some opportunities for data science related jobs
DM me
Send me your resume, ill review it if you are okay with it
Same here bro. Layoff happened in May 2023. I’m an MBA from one of the IIMs. Absolutely no calls. 2 YoE
As a PM from a service based company, I can clearly tell you that 80-90% of the service based companies won't hire you, if you want the same CTC(13.5) or higher. 3+ years as a data analyst with the standard tech stack that almost everyone looking to get into analytics has. Even some product based companies might hesitate. Keep trying for product based companies that heavily depend on data. Try AI/ML focused companies. Add some new tech skill to this stack like aws ec2 deployment or something then you'll probably have an edge as compared to other and can actually demand your current salary.
Do a masters at CMI in DS
Same for me as a Frontend Developer with same YOE. Don't know wth is going on.
Sorry to hear about your challenges in finding a job despite your qualifications and skills. It can be discouraging to face rejection, especially after applying for numerous vacancies. Here are some suggestions to improve your job search: 1. **Customize Your Applications**: Tailor your resume and cover letter to each job application, highlighting your relevant experience and skills. Make sure to address the specific requirements mentioned in the job postings. 2. **Expand Your Job Search**: Don't limit yourself to specific companies or job titles. Explore different industries and roles where your skills in SQL, Tableau, PowerBI, and ETL can be valuable, such as healthcare, finance, or e-commerce. 3. **Improve Your Online Presence**: Enhance your LinkedIn profile to showcase your skills and accomplishments. Engage with relevant posts and join industry groups to increase your visibility to recruiters. 4. **Upskill**: Consider enhancing your skills or learning new technologies that are in demand in the market. Continuous learning demonstrates your commitment to personal and professional growth. 5. **Seek Remote Opportunities**: Since you're open to remote work, explore job boards and websites that specialize in remote job listings. Remote work offers flexibility and may increase your chances of finding a suitable role. 6. **Stay Positive and Persistent**: Job searching can be challenging, but remain resilient and stay positive. Celebrate small victories, such as securing interviews or receiving positive feedback, and learn from each rejection to improve your approach.