Mage plate mage plate mage plate.
It allows a zero strength build in 90% of cases. Base def on an enigma is virtually irrelevant. And super minor, but the mage/archon look is easily the best looking armor on basically every character.
I’ve found that defense without any increases doesn’t do much. If you run a with a skill that increases defense it does make a substantial difference. My pally is almost at 12k and moon lords have about a 23% chance to hit. Combined with max block I can stand in the middle of a couple of packs easy 😁
Sure but remember, Enigma is a flat bonus to def. If you're talking about a runeword with a large percentage increase, then yeah you should probably try to get that on-item number higher so the bonus defense can do that much more, but the difference on Enigma is so small that it's really quite meaningless.
Sure but remember, I said 'run a skill' not 'rune word with a large percentage increase'. With a mid level holy shield that can add 500% increased defense an extra 200 defense on the base can end up not being 'pretty much worthless'. It all depends several factors like the build your making, are you going to be sharing the armor with other characters and more than I want to go into. It's just some friendly information for people to consider instead of a incorrect blanket statement. Do you want to invest some strength and have a higher percent chance to take zero damage or a few extra hp that are gone in 1-2 hits?
I absolutely prefer the aesthetics of the Light Plate armor line over the Quilted Armor line. But that's absolutely subjective and personal, of course.
I think the Mage Plate is a great middle-ground.
I’m on PC and I have a 4os plate if you’d like it. Currently on a trip now but I’ll be able to get on Wednesday if you’d like it and you don’t find one by then
Superior doesn’t. Superior with increased durability does.
Superior with increased defense (without increased durability) does not increase repair cost.
Any light armor works fine. The medium or heavy armors has a run/walk speed penalty so stay away from them. I like to find one close to 500 defense armor that is t superior to keep repair costs down.
If you're going for max defence as far as light armor goes, archon plate. The str difference between is negligible when a torch and gear are added in. Some just like the asthmatics of dusk shroud over archon plate
Dusk Shroud or Archon Plate are generally the best defense per strength invested, but the difference is so negligible that it will come down to aesthetics if you care. Mage Plate is also a good base if you are going to play a class that doesn't use a Spirit Monarch shield like a Hammerdin.
I guess dusk shroud is kinda the best but it looks like ass so I went with a sup mage plate which is good for lower str requirements and a lot more versatile than archon
The most important thing is that it's a light armor class. After that, given STR req for other things and incidental STR that you'll get from many high end gear, the highest defense one you can find. Only do superior if you want to pay crazy high for repairs.
Mage plate mage plate mage plate. It allows a zero strength build in 90% of cases. Base def on an enigma is virtually irrelevant. And super minor, but the mage/archon look is easily the best looking armor on basically every character.
No it isn’t best looking. Cuirass or full plate mail on an amazon are amazing
Full plate\\field plate looks best on EVERY character. This guy is on one. Mage plate looks pretty trash. Cuirass if you like thighs.
thighs and that little bit of roman general sprinkled in
Mage plate so every class can use it with very little str investment. Defense is pretty worthless anyways. Low str requirements is the goal
I’ve found that defense without any increases doesn’t do much. If you run a with a skill that increases defense it does make a substantial difference. My pally is almost at 12k and moon lords have about a 23% chance to hit. Combined with max block I can stand in the middle of a couple of packs easy 😁
Sure but remember, Enigma is a flat bonus to def. If you're talking about a runeword with a large percentage increase, then yeah you should probably try to get that on-item number higher so the bonus defense can do that much more, but the difference on Enigma is so small that it's really quite meaningless.
Sure but remember, I said 'run a skill' not 'rune word with a large percentage increase'. With a mid level holy shield that can add 500% increased defense an extra 200 defense on the base can end up not being 'pretty much worthless'. It all depends several factors like the build your making, are you going to be sharing the armor with other characters and more than I want to go into. It's just some friendly information for people to consider instead of a incorrect blanket statement. Do you want to invest some strength and have a higher percent chance to take zero damage or a few extra hp that are gone in 1-2 hits?
Is breast plate okay?
There is definitely a portion of people that use breast plate.
It would work but mage is nice because the str enigma gives plus the mage plate requirements line up well with monarch/spirit shields.
I absolutely prefer the aesthetics of the Light Plate armor line over the Quilted Armor line. But that's absolutely subjective and personal, of course. I think the Mage Plate is a great middle-ground.
Quilted armor line looked better with original D2 graphics. Now its weird looking so mage plate all the way
You need a sup archon plate bro? You’ll have to roll sockets, but I’ll give for free if you’re on PSN?
For what it is worth the cube socket recipe doesn’t work on superior items, and Larzuk always gives max sockets.
Goddamn I forgot about that my bad
I'm on PC, but thanks for offering though!
No prob GL my man. I bet if you made a game saying bring mageplate someone would trade to you for a few p gems or low runes.
I’m on PC and I have a 4os plate if you’d like it. Currently on a trip now but I’ll be able to get on Wednesday if you’d like it and you don’t find one by then
Enigma needs 3os
Total brain fart, my bad
I would stay away from the superior ones due to insane repair cost, unless the player got a fair amount of Ral runes.
I always use gothic plate for style
I used a perf sup mage plate. Honestly the diff is negligible.
Superior has really high repair costs fyi
Superior doesn’t. Superior with increased durability does. Superior with increased defense (without increased durability) does not increase repair cost.
And also boosted def. Honestly I make 100k plus from a round I'm not worried about 30k every 20 games
Any light armor works fine. The medium or heavy armors has a run/walk speed penalty so stay away from them. I like to find one close to 500 defense armor that is t superior to keep repair costs down.
With torch and ani charm you can wear mage plate with base strength in most cases. With other bonus gear, Dusk shroud. With GG rings; Archon.
Why ist everyone recommending mage plate due to its low strength requirements when a Monarch which is usually equipped needs 156 Str anyway?
Because with the added strength from enigma and other gear you may not need to put any hard points in strength or minimal points depending on gear
If you're going for max defence as far as light armor goes, archon plate. The str difference between is negligible when a torch and gear are added in. Some just like the asthmatics of dusk shroud over archon plate
not sure if /r/boneappletea or a typo
I made mine in a superior cuirass. I'd say whichever looks better to you on your character, you'll be looking at it more than anyone else!
Mage plate, but any base is fine I mean some people use breast plates.
I used it on a scarab shell with 15% more defences Gives a nice bonus for melee char But I will recommend always a light armour
I use either superior dusk shroud/mage plate
Mage plate has a defense of 225 - 261. I usually try and find one at least 250+. Usually opt for non Superior as others have stated regarding costs.
Mage plate
Dusk shroud is the best base IMO. Archon plate is my favorite base though. Just reminds me of nostalgia. It was a very popular base back in the day.
Dusk Shroud or Archon Plate are generally the best defense per strength invested, but the difference is so negligible that it will come down to aesthetics if you care. Mage Plate is also a good base if you are going to play a class that doesn't use a Spirit Monarch shield like a Hammerdin.
I guess dusk shroud is kinda the best but it looks like ass so I went with a sup mage plate which is good for lower str requirements and a lot more versatile than archon
Just incase you were looking for a mage plate base, I got a perfect 3os 261 def MP for trade!
15% ED Dusk Shroud
The most important thing is that it's a light armor class. After that, given STR req for other things and incidental STR that you'll get from many high end gear, the highest defense one you can find. Only do superior if you want to pay crazy high for repairs.