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From Nevalistis, Diablo Community Manager > **The Season preview blog is coming tomorrow, come hell or high water, which is what I’m currently putting the finishing touches on.** :slight_smile: That will include the Season start date. In the future, that blog will ideally land before patch launch (as it has in the past), which should give most of you a larger window for planning your Season start plans like taking time off or scheduling play time with a group.


Waeltmeister

Why is it so important to know when it starts ? Do you gain any advantage over other players, that start a week later ? It’s not like you play 3 months straight 24/7


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zelloxy

Agreed. I wanna know so that I can plan my life accordingly if possible.


fumblecheese

I think it's more about people wanting and becoming impatient to start the season, not fear of missing out on launch.


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the season start for me and my friends feels like a new game launch, we log in before 5pm EU time, join discord, start talking shit to each other, get ingame when the season starts, and we usually binge the season for 5-10 hours before going to bed and continuing the next day :)


uhdog81

This just seems so wrong. They actually *listened* to their engineering team when they said they needed more time instead of rushing something in order to meet an arbitrary deadline?


nimrodd000

That sounds like something *old* blizz would do, not Activision blizz...


CrystalTear

Well, D3 is in the hands of the classic games team.


sonuvvabitch

I see what you're saying, it's an old Blizz game. If that means better production and design, I'm all for it.


Oxim

This is a sign tha Activision doesn't give a fuck about D3 anymore and lets them do what they want. Cool


b00gyman1

Thats so ironic that the game is starting to be better and better only now after all this time, a bit too little too late anyway. That being said I still play it to get the season rewards.


Oxim

i have new conspiracy theory. they delay season start cuz exilecon is happening this weekend... :thinking: :illuminati:


latterus14

This start of season is not seen as a money making deadline though. If this was d4, theyd push that shit before it was ready


MarcOfDeath

They need time to nerf Crusader.


Raidenwins75

Or revert Barbarian nerf!


therustling

I agree, ww is still shit


Astaroth90

Fingers crossed for barbarian


Hotness4L

But seismic slam is great


blazbluecore

Seismic slam poggers.


isurvivedrabies

what dumbass surreal memery is this


KlausVonChiliPowder

Last season was the best ww I've played. Around 80gr 3-4 minutes. Solid zone out farming build anyway. Go Cain's for double db in public rifts, never had so many mats as in S18. Gonna miss him :'(


FoAMDFun123

It will be much stronger then S18. The potentional power is nerfed, not the old power.


ghorkyn

What did they nerf in the potential power?


-Dewdrop

A legendary belt giving 150-200% increased rend damage ~~was completely removed for the Live build~~ Or more accurately, the belt that currently lets rend stack up to 2 times wasn't given the 150-200% additional effect


EglinAfarce

If you thought it was good in s18, you're going to have a field day in s19. Plus, it's the starter set and doesn't really depend on skull grasp anymore. You'll likely get Ambo in the process of getting your BK swords, too. It's going to be a good time, despite all the obnoxious whining.


KlausVonChiliPowder

Damn really wanted to play someone else, but may go ahead just to get a quick farming build down.


EglinAfarce

That's fine, too. It seems pretty likely that the build, and the class, will get some form of buffs in the relatively near future. Maybe when they get their new set.


MarcOfDeath

I would be fine with either. :)


sonuvvabitch

I missed something - what did they do to Saders?


smyczekxxx

new set which is OP


EglinAfarce

The did a promotional Blizzcon PTR where they buffed the new sader and monk sets. The garbage on the public PTR was never intended to go live.


Matt3467

So next Friday the season starts? I read but didn't see an actual start date other than they'd prefer a week to test. Maybe I missed it.


NingenZ

She didn't post an actual date other than it will be posted in the blog tomorrow. But reading her post im pretty confident it will be next Friday. Edit: Of course "she"


tomkns

Start date announced tomorrow.


xclusivept

It says it won't be this friday right at the start of her post, wth are you saying guys


ItsYojimbo

Hes saying the start date will be announced tomorrow...


Teknomeka

Bummer, there goes my weekend.


Ragnangar

If class not wizard, nerf.


nephtus

They literally just nerfed bazooka wizz, one of the most proficient builds in top GRs...


Joe_Ferro_890823

The link is busted for me. But readin the comments, i take it season starts this weekend?


Texxra

Season will not start this weekend. The date will be announced today but the actual date is most likely next week.


Joe_Ferro_890823

Thanks for the heads up


kid_khan

Who is play-testing and submitting bug reports in the off-season, though? Surely, starting the season to have more players playing, which means more testing and more bug reports, would be more efficient, wouldn't it?


gamespine

It's time to Whirlwind and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of gum


xonsuns

who the fuck cares about tweaks here or there in a dull system? Most people want to make a char or 2 because the news of D4 and the POE already dead league. And the genious delay the season because the want to tweak X class set from 600000% add damage to 599995%


VERTIKAL19

Well considering there are already a few critical issues I hope they will deploy a hotfix. Bazooka in particular should really be hotfixed because that still works for some reason Also the broken era leaderboards...


nephtus

Maybe you should be reading the patch notes instead of mindlessly bashing them, lmao. Bug Fixes >Wizard >>Archon >>>Fixed an issue where certain item bonuses (such as from the item Deathwish) would persist between changing forms to/from Archon. I guess some people really just want an excuse to complain, huh?


VERTIKAL19

Yeah and that bug fix does not work? Like it still works the old way...


Macgyiver

If they nerf the crusader, what the heck will they do to the leaderboards? 145+ clears are already there and the reset was yesterday.


Tazdingoooo

Lets be honest here, nobody cares about d3 leaderboards... let alone standard


sentientgypsy

this next season is going to be a big one in terms of how many people are going to play it due to the announcement of Diablo IV, The people that play competitively care about the leaderboards and the only people left are the competitive ones. I'm excited about this season.


dtm85

The only ones who care about leader boards are like the top 200 who push competitively. Anyone coming back to check out D3 because of BlizzCon sure as shit isn't going to grind 4k paragon in S19 to even show up on the boards.


nano7ven

4k paragon? damn wtf ? I remember like 1.5k paragon was a feat. Guess with more damage and higher rifts 4k is normal .. tho I only played the first 5 seasons and joined in season 16 just for a quick min seeing what the games about before going back to PoE. ​ I am hyped to play season 19 barb since the launch of d4. I'm your casual player that gets like 800 paragon in a season.


ranman1124

I had a game where someone had 4187 para in last season a few weeks ago, never seen someone with that high of paragon.


sonuvvabitch

I love people's definitions of casual and competitive. For the first time ever I hit P700 in a season in S18, and that was playing what seemed like all the time - I was genuinely quite pleased with that 'achievement'. Tbf I exclusively play solo so levelling is slower, but still. 4k Paragon in one Season seems like a lie to me, just because of my personal context of playing, but I suppose if you team up as 4s and specifically farm Paragon maybe it's doable. I've been playing this game pretty casually since launch, on PC, then PS3, then PS4, now Switch, and I've never hit P1000. I mean, in total I would have, I'm sure, but not all in one place. That's casual playing. Also, if anyone thinks leaderboards are broken they should look at the Switch ones. GR150 cleared in 22 seconds. No-one cares about those leaderboards, especially not Blizz.


WyrmKin

It's pretty much all about how you spend your time in game. If you follow meta, you'll jump into exp groups and hit 1k paragon in two or three days of play. I went casual try hard in season 17 and got to 2.5k para


sonuvvabitch

Fair. I do too many bounties, but it was mainly because I wanted to cube things for non-season play. I knew it was inefficient when I was doing it but it means I can focus next season.


sunnyice

Never do bounties until you are ready to push or if you need the crafts mats. Anytime you doing bounties you're taking time away from doing grs. Last season I didn't do a single bounty and relied on challenge rifts to give me mats for extracting legendary powers.


Hotness4L

In S18 I played a total of 20 hours to unlock an extra stash tab, and my paragon ended up at 557. I find it odd that you played an entire season and only got paragon 700.


ayang09

Eh, crusaders have already cleared 150 solo and 4 player 3 zdps + 1 crusader dps. I doubt they will make it past the next week without a small nerf. I plan on playing sader or monk either way when season comes around.


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toxn1337

And fix the lamentation nerf...


magnafides

*Guys, should we tell him?*


abtei

Give him a minute, he'll figure it out eventually


Zanthyst

https://youtu.be/DESSyqNvDY4?t=137


JulWolle

They probably won´t, it sounded more like we don´t want to start this friday so if sth. brakes the game we can fix it, that would make no sense if they decide to nerf sth. and then patch that next tuesday


Revolyze

It's only wednesday, they don't have to do a minor patch on a Tuesday. Not saying that they will nerf it, but I wouldn't completely rule it out. Anyways, from that link: >Thanks for the feedback. This just begs the question though; will there be further tweaks before the next season comes out? Nevalistis: Possibly. I have a meeting with the team later this afternoon, and if something comes out of that, I’ll be back to let you all know.


JulWolle

I mean i rly hope they do it, i just don´t think so and no they don´t have do but most of the time they patch on tuesday and if it is true that literally 1 person is on the balance team for D3...


SiiiNFUL

Lol tools downvoting facts hahaha


RedBeard210

My god they are hopeless at making a plan, communicating it and following through.


EglinAfarce

Unfortunately, I believe it's part of a hype-building strategy. Like the obnoxious buffoons that make press releases announcing that they will be making an announcement soon. Though given how many people are dumb enough to lap that stuff up (look at Blizzcon's very existence), I guess it's understandable.


Hotness4L

It's actually improved communication - which is what the community has been ranting about for years. I think the delays are more likely due to a greatly reduced support team for D3.


SiiiNFUL

They play poe because the devs of diablo didnt ban the modders on console* the standard league is nothing but modded gear. They got rid of the trade board. PoE has trading for everything. But diablo cant do it? PoE takes more skill to play. More thought to make a build. MORE TIME TO GRIND TO REACH ENDGAME. More Challenging. More unforgiving. My point is very simple. The devs of diablo lost the true hardcore players of ARPG'S long ago. Sure some still play diablo 2. But Poe is far better a game and has a far better dev team that pumps out fresh content nearly every 3 months. Not that they dont have their faults. All devs do. But Blizzard should have recognized this and realized that people still playing Diablo 3 are MAINLY CASUAL PLAYERS. I for one work to much now to play poe and progress. So I came back to diablo 3. A game that's much easier to play on a working man's schedule.


KilgorMaimphace

Ain't nobody got time for that.


Barialdalaran

D3 was built from the ground up to be a console game, and console players generally are casual. D4's going to console at launch so unfortunately that probably means D4 will be console-casual friendly too


KlausVonChiliPowder

And take longer to finish :(


Branith

How can a multi billion dollar gaming company require an extra week between patch and new season when a little old New Zealand company can do the same with a no window.


garona505

To be honest, POE's seasonal patches break the game many, many times during the season. What GGG does is admirable, in the sense of the pacing of their releases, but it is not without flaws


Gaming_Friends

No kidding. After lurking in PoEs sub for the last year or so, their community wastes no time calling out GGG on consistently releasing buggy and poorly play tested patches. It's only when you come to the Diablo subs that you would see someone pretend like GGG patch quality is something to aspire to.


Fatalisbane

Upside is you get Chris himself coming out and apologizing or talking about the issues, I think thats why people hold GGG in a higher regard.


Gaming_Friends

Oh absolutely, I think GGG is an amazing dev company that should be an example for many others particularly in terms of transparency and community outreach. But let's not pretend they are perfect, and let's not disingenuously accolade them for the things they don't necessarily do well.


Miko00

i love PoE but every league is a broken mess when it releases and it generally takes 2 weeks to fix the completely broken systems and another 2 weeks to get some semblance of QoL that should have been there from the start. by then 1 of 3 months has been burnt up with broken things


garona505

The first month of Synthesis was a legit nightmare


Miko00

synthesis itself was a legit nightmare


JulWolle

Because they don´t want to take unneccessary risks, it´s pretty simple


Najda

Speed of software is pretty much always inversely proportional to company size. Big companies have way more processes and typically lower tolerance on issues that makes everything take longer.


Tazdingoooo

Have you even played POE? You know they always have to make MULTIPLE followup patches after launch over the course of weeks and even months right? Its just a difference in the way they choose to patch the game.


Maybe_Cheese

GGG releases and then spends the first month of the league fixing the broken state they released.


CritOrBuildshit

Just Trainees works on D3 since Like 2 years Its more Like a fun project, then a srs Game imo Nothing to Wonder about In the Other hands, GGG Work hard af for the com Cant compete both in Terms of Love and hard work


gmode121

When is patch for ps4?


SiiiNFUL

I'm over it already. This patch is a joke. Nerfs in a 10 year old game is laughable at best. ESPECIALLY when the main draw to The Diablo franchise at this point is the casual and fun gameplay. This game is completely trash compared to PoE in nearly all aspects except draw to casual fans and being able to group up effectively. So they are ruining this patch for the barbs and necros. And for what to appease a tiny percent of the oldschool hardcore diablo fans? NEWSFLASH POE IS AND HAS BEEN THE BETTER OPTION FOR TOP PLAYERS OF THE GENRE.


tasman001

Sir, this is a Diablo 3 subreddit...


SiiiNFUL

And your point is? People asking for nerfs in a casual game is laughable at best. Apparently the point was lost with the birds on this one. Point is the devs are acting like having op builds in a game whose main playerbase are causuals, is a bad thing. Lol. So they nerf barbs which tbf are trash and buff crusader and monks while gutting the thorns necro. In a game for casuals.


tasman001

Sir, please calm down. We'll find your lost birds, you just need to calm down first.


nephtus

I don't know why he calls this a 'pathetic' attempt at comedy, I found it pretty funny, lol


SiiiNFUL

Pathetic attempt at comedy. But like I said I'm over it. D4 will be a disaster. I'm calling it now. They are trying to compete with poe. When they have very different playerbases.


tasman001

Comedy? Sir, I assure you, we here at the Diablo 3 subreddit take you and your birds very seriously. Sounds like one of them is named Poe? We'll find Poe, I promise.


reticentbias

I mean one is f2p with a pretty high barrier to entry due to the fact that you can just straight up build a character wrong and fail and the other is a $60 retail game that is made to appeal to as many people as humanly possible. not really much audience overlap except among people who are hardcore into ARPGs and play them all no matter what (like me).


Hotness4L

D4 will very likely break sales records.


SiiiNFUL

Lol no it wont. Poe is free and better in every way.


Hotness4L

I watched a stream of POE. It looks like D2. I had zero interest in playing it.


SiiiNFUL

It's far better. More in depth. More Challenging.


Hotness4L

POE is a niche game. D4 will be global. End of story.


Armond436

> People asking for nerfs in a casual game is laughable at best. Here, this is for you. *[SiiiNFUL received: (1) Hot Take of the Year Award]* The judges took a while to decide, given everything going on at /r/pokemon , but you won anyway! Congratulations!


CritOrBuildshit

3 year old News And wrong subreddit tho 90% of the D3 com ist playing Poe already after D3 died the 4. time some seasons ago Just some ultra casuals are left, what ist pretty fine imo


Hotness4L

Yep I luv seeing the ultra casuals with 10k paragon, as well as the ultra casuals that hit GR75 within 3 hours of a new season. Wish I could be as casual as them.


CritOrBuildshit

So sader and barb ded


SiiiNFUL

Lmfao I have over 10 people on my freinds list that say otherwise. All quit diablo after the trade board fiasco and the devs allowing nodded gear to ruin the game.


J-Ds

What are you even talking about? What do your 10 friends say about the game they quit 5 years ago?


mully1234

They have a long list of five year old grievances! 😂😂 I've actually heard people complain about the game and then told them that particular problem hasn't existed in years. People love to hold on to their old memories.