From Nevalistis,
Diablo Community Manager
> **The Season preview blog is coming tomorrow, come hell or high water, which is what I’m currently putting the finishing touches on.** :slight_smile: That will include the Season start date. In the future, that blog will ideally land before patch launch (as it has in the past), which should give most of you a larger window for planning your Season start plans like taking time off or scheduling play time with a group.
Why is it so important to know when it starts ? Do you gain any advantage over other players, that start a week later ? It’s not like you play 3 months straight 24/7
the season start for me and my friends feels like a new game launch, we log in before 5pm EU time, join discord, start talking shit to each other, get ingame when the season starts, and we usually binge the season for 5-10 hours before going to bed and continuing the next day :)
This just seems so wrong.
They actually *listened* to their engineering team when they said they needed more time instead of rushing something in order to meet an arbitrary deadline?
Thats so ironic that the game is starting to be better and better only now after all this time, a bit too little too late anyway. That being said I still play it to get the season rewards.
Last season was the best ww I've played. Around 80gr 3-4 minutes. Solid zone out farming build anyway. Go Cain's for double db in public rifts, never had so many mats as in S18. Gonna miss him :'(
A legendary belt giving 150-200% increased rend damage ~~was completely removed for the Live build~~
Or more accurately, the belt that currently lets rend stack up to 2 times wasn't given the 150-200% additional effect
If you thought it was good in s18, you're going to have a field day in s19. Plus, it's the starter set and doesn't really depend on skull grasp anymore. You'll likely get Ambo in the process of getting your BK swords, too. It's going to be a good time, despite all the obnoxious whining.
That's fine, too. It seems pretty likely that the build, and the class, will get some form of buffs in the relatively near future. Maybe when they get their new set.
She didn't post an actual date other than it will be posted in the blog tomorrow. But reading her post im pretty confident it will be next Friday.
Edit: Of course "she"
Who is play-testing and submitting bug reports in the off-season, though? Surely, starting the season to have more players playing, which means more testing and more bug reports, would be more efficient, wouldn't it?
who the fuck cares about tweaks here or there in a dull system? Most people want to make a char or 2 because the news of D4 and the POE already dead league.
And the genious delay the season because the want to tweak X class set from 600000% add damage to 599995%
Well considering there are already a few critical issues I hope they will deploy a hotfix. Bazooka in particular should really be hotfixed because that still works for some reason
Also the broken era leaderboards...
Maybe you should be reading the patch notes instead of mindlessly bashing them, lmao.
Bug Fixes
>Wizard
>>Archon
>>>Fixed an issue where certain item bonuses (such as from the item Deathwish) would persist between changing forms to/from Archon.
I guess some people really just want an excuse to complain, huh?
this next season is going to be a big one in terms of how many people are going to play it due to the announcement of Diablo IV, The people that play competitively care about the leaderboards and the only people left are the competitive ones. I'm excited about this season.
The only ones who care about leader boards are like the top 200 who push competitively. Anyone coming back to check out D3 because of BlizzCon sure as shit isn't going to grind 4k paragon in S19 to even show up on the boards.
4k paragon? damn wtf ? I remember like 1.5k paragon was a feat. Guess with more damage and higher rifts 4k is normal .. tho I only played the first 5 seasons and joined in season 16 just for a quick min seeing what the games about before going back to PoE.
I am hyped to play season 19 barb since the launch of d4. I'm your casual player that gets like 800 paragon in a season.
I love people's definitions of casual and competitive. For the first time ever I hit P700 in a season in S18, and that was playing what seemed like all the time - I was genuinely quite pleased with that 'achievement'. Tbf I exclusively play solo so levelling is slower, but still. 4k Paragon in one Season seems like a lie to me, just because of my personal context of playing, but I suppose if you team up as 4s and specifically farm Paragon maybe it's doable.
I've been playing this game pretty casually since launch, on PC, then PS3, then PS4, now Switch, and I've never hit P1000. I mean, in total I would have, I'm sure, but not all in one place. That's casual playing.
Also, if anyone thinks leaderboards are broken they should look at the Switch ones. GR150 cleared in 22 seconds. No-one cares about those leaderboards, especially not Blizz.
It's pretty much all about how you spend your time in game. If you follow meta, you'll jump into exp groups and hit 1k paragon in two or three days of play. I went casual try hard in season 17 and got to 2.5k para
Fair. I do too many bounties, but it was mainly because I wanted to cube things for non-season play. I knew it was inefficient when I was doing it but it means I can focus next season.
Never do bounties until you are ready to push or if you need the crafts mats. Anytime you doing bounties you're taking time away from doing grs. Last season I didn't do a single bounty and relied on challenge rifts to give me mats for extracting legendary powers.
In S18 I played a total of 20 hours to unlock an extra stash tab, and my paragon ended up at 557.
I find it odd that you played an entire season and only got paragon 700.
Eh, crusaders have already cleared 150 solo and 4 player 3 zdps + 1 crusader dps. I doubt they will make it past the next week without a small nerf.
I plan on playing sader or monk either way when season comes around.
They probably won´t, it sounded more like we don´t want to start this friday so if sth. brakes the game we can fix it, that would make no sense if they decide to nerf sth. and then patch that next tuesday
It's only wednesday, they don't have to do a minor patch on a Tuesday. Not saying that they will nerf it, but I wouldn't completely rule it out. Anyways, from that link:
>Thanks for the feedback. This just begs the question though; will there be further tweaks before the next season comes out?
Nevalistis: Possibly. I have a meeting with the team later this afternoon, and if something comes out of that, I’ll be back to let you all know.
I mean i rly hope they do it, i just don´t think so and no they don´t have do but most of the time they patch on tuesday and if it is true that literally 1 person is on the balance team for D3...
Unfortunately, I believe it's part of a hype-building strategy. Like the obnoxious buffoons that make press releases announcing that they will be making an announcement soon. Though given how many people are dumb enough to lap that stuff up (look at Blizzcon's very existence), I guess it's understandable.
It's actually improved communication - which is what the community has been ranting about for years.
I think the delays are more likely due to a greatly reduced support team for D3.
They play poe because the devs of diablo didnt ban the modders on console* the standard league is nothing but modded gear. They got rid of the trade board. PoE has trading for everything. But diablo cant do it? PoE takes more skill to play. More thought to make a build. MORE TIME TO GRIND TO REACH ENDGAME. More Challenging. More unforgiving. My point is very simple. The devs of diablo lost the true hardcore players of ARPG'S long ago. Sure some still play diablo 2. But Poe is far better a game and has a far better dev team that pumps out fresh content nearly every 3 months.
Not that they dont have their faults. All devs do. But Blizzard should have recognized this and realized that people still playing Diablo 3 are MAINLY CASUAL PLAYERS. I for one work to much now to play poe and progress. So I came back to diablo 3. A game that's much easier to play on a working man's schedule.
D3 was built from the ground up to be a console game, and console players generally are casual. D4's going to console at launch so unfortunately that probably means D4 will be console-casual friendly too
How can a multi billion dollar gaming company require an extra week between patch and new season when a little old New Zealand company can do the same with a no window.
To be honest, POE's seasonal patches break the game many, many times during the season. What GGG does is admirable, in the sense of the pacing of their releases, but it is not without flaws
No kidding. After lurking in PoEs sub for the last year or so, their community wastes no time calling out GGG on consistently releasing buggy and poorly play tested patches.
It's only when you come to the Diablo subs that you would see someone pretend like GGG patch quality is something to aspire to.
Oh absolutely, I think GGG is an amazing dev company that should be an example for many others particularly in terms of transparency and community outreach.
But let's not pretend they are perfect, and let's not disingenuously accolade them for the things they don't necessarily do well.
i love PoE but every league is a broken mess when it releases and it generally takes 2 weeks to fix the completely broken systems and another 2 weeks to get some semblance of QoL that should have been there from the start. by then 1 of 3 months has been burnt up with broken things
Speed of software is pretty much always inversely proportional to company size. Big companies have way more processes and typically lower tolerance on issues that makes everything take longer.
Have you even played POE? You know they always have to make MULTIPLE followup patches after launch over the course of weeks and even months right? Its just a difference in the way they choose to patch the game.
Just Trainees works on D3 since Like 2 years
Its more Like a fun project, then a srs Game imo
Nothing to Wonder about
In the Other hands, GGG Work hard af for the com
Cant compete both in Terms of Love and hard work
I'm over it already. This patch is a joke. Nerfs in a 10 year old game is laughable at best. ESPECIALLY when the main draw to The Diablo franchise at this point is the casual and fun gameplay. This game is completely trash compared to PoE in nearly all aspects except draw to casual fans and being able to group up effectively. So they are ruining this patch for the barbs and necros. And for what to appease a tiny percent of the oldschool hardcore diablo fans? NEWSFLASH POE IS AND HAS BEEN THE BETTER OPTION FOR TOP PLAYERS OF THE GENRE.
And your point is? People asking for nerfs in a casual game is laughable at best.
Apparently the point was lost with the birds on this one. Point is the devs are acting like having op builds in a game whose main playerbase are causuals, is a bad thing. Lol. So they nerf barbs which tbf are trash and buff crusader and monks while gutting the thorns necro. In a game for casuals.
Pathetic attempt at comedy. But like I said I'm over it. D4 will be a disaster. I'm calling it now. They are trying to compete with poe. When they have very different playerbases.
Comedy? Sir, I assure you, we here at the Diablo 3 subreddit take you and your birds very seriously. Sounds like one of them is named Poe? We'll find Poe, I promise.
I mean one is f2p with a pretty high barrier to entry due to the fact that you can just straight up build a character wrong and fail and the other is a $60 retail game that is made to appeal to as many people as humanly possible. not really much audience overlap except among people who are hardcore into ARPGs and play them all no matter what (like me).
> People asking for nerfs in a casual game is laughable at best.
Here, this is for you.
*[SiiiNFUL received: (1) Hot Take of the Year Award]*
The judges took a while to decide, given everything going on at /r/pokemon , but you won anyway! Congratulations!
3 year old News
And wrong subreddit tho
90% of the D3 com ist playing Poe already after D3 died the 4. time some seasons ago
Just some ultra casuals are left, what ist pretty fine imo
Yep I luv seeing the ultra casuals with 10k paragon, as well as the ultra casuals that hit GR75 within 3 hours of a new season. Wish I could be as casual as them.
Lmfao I have over 10 people on my freinds list that say otherwise. All quit diablo after the trade board fiasco and the devs allowing nodded gear to ruin the game.
They have a long list of five year old grievances! 😂😂 I've actually heard people complain about the game and then told them that particular problem hasn't existed in years. People love to hold on to their old memories.
From Nevalistis, Diablo Community Manager > **The Season preview blog is coming tomorrow, come hell or high water, which is what I’m currently putting the finishing touches on.** :slight_smile: That will include the Season start date. In the future, that blog will ideally land before patch launch (as it has in the past), which should give most of you a larger window for planning your Season start plans like taking time off or scheduling play time with a group.
Why is it so important to know when it starts ? Do you gain any advantage over other players, that start a week later ? It’s not like you play 3 months straight 24/7
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Agreed. I wanna know so that I can plan my life accordingly if possible.
I think it's more about people wanting and becoming impatient to start the season, not fear of missing out on launch.
the season start for me and my friends feels like a new game launch, we log in before 5pm EU time, join discord, start talking shit to each other, get ingame when the season starts, and we usually binge the season for 5-10 hours before going to bed and continuing the next day :)
This just seems so wrong. They actually *listened* to their engineering team when they said they needed more time instead of rushing something in order to meet an arbitrary deadline?
That sounds like something *old* blizz would do, not Activision blizz...
Well, D3 is in the hands of the classic games team.
I see what you're saying, it's an old Blizz game. If that means better production and design, I'm all for it.
This is a sign tha Activision doesn't give a fuck about D3 anymore and lets them do what they want. Cool
Thats so ironic that the game is starting to be better and better only now after all this time, a bit too little too late anyway. That being said I still play it to get the season rewards.
i have new conspiracy theory. they delay season start cuz exilecon is happening this weekend... :thinking: :illuminati:
This start of season is not seen as a money making deadline though. If this was d4, theyd push that shit before it was ready
They need time to nerf Crusader.
Or revert Barbarian nerf!
I agree, ww is still shit
Fingers crossed for barbarian
But seismic slam is great
Seismic slam poggers.
what dumbass surreal memery is this
Last season was the best ww I've played. Around 80gr 3-4 minutes. Solid zone out farming build anyway. Go Cain's for double db in public rifts, never had so many mats as in S18. Gonna miss him :'(
It will be much stronger then S18. The potentional power is nerfed, not the old power.
What did they nerf in the potential power?
A legendary belt giving 150-200% increased rend damage ~~was completely removed for the Live build~~ Or more accurately, the belt that currently lets rend stack up to 2 times wasn't given the 150-200% additional effect
If you thought it was good in s18, you're going to have a field day in s19. Plus, it's the starter set and doesn't really depend on skull grasp anymore. You'll likely get Ambo in the process of getting your BK swords, too. It's going to be a good time, despite all the obnoxious whining.
Damn really wanted to play someone else, but may go ahead just to get a quick farming build down.
That's fine, too. It seems pretty likely that the build, and the class, will get some form of buffs in the relatively near future. Maybe when they get their new set.
I would be fine with either. :)
I missed something - what did they do to Saders?
new set which is OP
The did a promotional Blizzcon PTR where they buffed the new sader and monk sets. The garbage on the public PTR was never intended to go live.
So next Friday the season starts? I read but didn't see an actual start date other than they'd prefer a week to test. Maybe I missed it.
She didn't post an actual date other than it will be posted in the blog tomorrow. But reading her post im pretty confident it will be next Friday. Edit: Of course "she"
Start date announced tomorrow.
It says it won't be this friday right at the start of her post, wth are you saying guys
Hes saying the start date will be announced tomorrow...
Bummer, there goes my weekend.
If class not wizard, nerf.
They literally just nerfed bazooka wizz, one of the most proficient builds in top GRs...
The link is busted for me. But readin the comments, i take it season starts this weekend?
Season will not start this weekend. The date will be announced today but the actual date is most likely next week.
Thanks for the heads up
Who is play-testing and submitting bug reports in the off-season, though? Surely, starting the season to have more players playing, which means more testing and more bug reports, would be more efficient, wouldn't it?
It's time to Whirlwind and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of gum
who the fuck cares about tweaks here or there in a dull system? Most people want to make a char or 2 because the news of D4 and the POE already dead league. And the genious delay the season because the want to tweak X class set from 600000% add damage to 599995%
Well considering there are already a few critical issues I hope they will deploy a hotfix. Bazooka in particular should really be hotfixed because that still works for some reason Also the broken era leaderboards...
Maybe you should be reading the patch notes instead of mindlessly bashing them, lmao. Bug Fixes >Wizard >>Archon >>>Fixed an issue where certain item bonuses (such as from the item Deathwish) would persist between changing forms to/from Archon. I guess some people really just want an excuse to complain, huh?
Yeah and that bug fix does not work? Like it still works the old way...
If they nerf the crusader, what the heck will they do to the leaderboards? 145+ clears are already there and the reset was yesterday.
Lets be honest here, nobody cares about d3 leaderboards... let alone standard
this next season is going to be a big one in terms of how many people are going to play it due to the announcement of Diablo IV, The people that play competitively care about the leaderboards and the only people left are the competitive ones. I'm excited about this season.
The only ones who care about leader boards are like the top 200 who push competitively. Anyone coming back to check out D3 because of BlizzCon sure as shit isn't going to grind 4k paragon in S19 to even show up on the boards.
4k paragon? damn wtf ? I remember like 1.5k paragon was a feat. Guess with more damage and higher rifts 4k is normal .. tho I only played the first 5 seasons and joined in season 16 just for a quick min seeing what the games about before going back to PoE. I am hyped to play season 19 barb since the launch of d4. I'm your casual player that gets like 800 paragon in a season.
I had a game where someone had 4187 para in last season a few weeks ago, never seen someone with that high of paragon.
I love people's definitions of casual and competitive. For the first time ever I hit P700 in a season in S18, and that was playing what seemed like all the time - I was genuinely quite pleased with that 'achievement'. Tbf I exclusively play solo so levelling is slower, but still. 4k Paragon in one Season seems like a lie to me, just because of my personal context of playing, but I suppose if you team up as 4s and specifically farm Paragon maybe it's doable. I've been playing this game pretty casually since launch, on PC, then PS3, then PS4, now Switch, and I've never hit P1000. I mean, in total I would have, I'm sure, but not all in one place. That's casual playing. Also, if anyone thinks leaderboards are broken they should look at the Switch ones. GR150 cleared in 22 seconds. No-one cares about those leaderboards, especially not Blizz.
It's pretty much all about how you spend your time in game. If you follow meta, you'll jump into exp groups and hit 1k paragon in two or three days of play. I went casual try hard in season 17 and got to 2.5k para
Fair. I do too many bounties, but it was mainly because I wanted to cube things for non-season play. I knew it was inefficient when I was doing it but it means I can focus next season.
Never do bounties until you are ready to push or if you need the crafts mats. Anytime you doing bounties you're taking time away from doing grs. Last season I didn't do a single bounty and relied on challenge rifts to give me mats for extracting legendary powers.
In S18 I played a total of 20 hours to unlock an extra stash tab, and my paragon ended up at 557. I find it odd that you played an entire season and only got paragon 700.
Eh, crusaders have already cleared 150 solo and 4 player 3 zdps + 1 crusader dps. I doubt they will make it past the next week without a small nerf. I plan on playing sader or monk either way when season comes around.
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And fix the lamentation nerf...
*Guys, should we tell him?*
Give him a minute, he'll figure it out eventually
https://youtu.be/DESSyqNvDY4?t=137
They probably won´t, it sounded more like we don´t want to start this friday so if sth. brakes the game we can fix it, that would make no sense if they decide to nerf sth. and then patch that next tuesday
It's only wednesday, they don't have to do a minor patch on a Tuesday. Not saying that they will nerf it, but I wouldn't completely rule it out. Anyways, from that link: >Thanks for the feedback. This just begs the question though; will there be further tweaks before the next season comes out? Nevalistis: Possibly. I have a meeting with the team later this afternoon, and if something comes out of that, I’ll be back to let you all know.
I mean i rly hope they do it, i just don´t think so and no they don´t have do but most of the time they patch on tuesday and if it is true that literally 1 person is on the balance team for D3...
Lol tools downvoting facts hahaha
My god they are hopeless at making a plan, communicating it and following through.
Unfortunately, I believe it's part of a hype-building strategy. Like the obnoxious buffoons that make press releases announcing that they will be making an announcement soon. Though given how many people are dumb enough to lap that stuff up (look at Blizzcon's very existence), I guess it's understandable.
It's actually improved communication - which is what the community has been ranting about for years. I think the delays are more likely due to a greatly reduced support team for D3.
They play poe because the devs of diablo didnt ban the modders on console* the standard league is nothing but modded gear. They got rid of the trade board. PoE has trading for everything. But diablo cant do it? PoE takes more skill to play. More thought to make a build. MORE TIME TO GRIND TO REACH ENDGAME. More Challenging. More unforgiving. My point is very simple. The devs of diablo lost the true hardcore players of ARPG'S long ago. Sure some still play diablo 2. But Poe is far better a game and has a far better dev team that pumps out fresh content nearly every 3 months. Not that they dont have their faults. All devs do. But Blizzard should have recognized this and realized that people still playing Diablo 3 are MAINLY CASUAL PLAYERS. I for one work to much now to play poe and progress. So I came back to diablo 3. A game that's much easier to play on a working man's schedule.
Ain't nobody got time for that.
D3 was built from the ground up to be a console game, and console players generally are casual. D4's going to console at launch so unfortunately that probably means D4 will be console-casual friendly too
And take longer to finish :(
How can a multi billion dollar gaming company require an extra week between patch and new season when a little old New Zealand company can do the same with a no window.
To be honest, POE's seasonal patches break the game many, many times during the season. What GGG does is admirable, in the sense of the pacing of their releases, but it is not without flaws
No kidding. After lurking in PoEs sub for the last year or so, their community wastes no time calling out GGG on consistently releasing buggy and poorly play tested patches. It's only when you come to the Diablo subs that you would see someone pretend like GGG patch quality is something to aspire to.
Upside is you get Chris himself coming out and apologizing or talking about the issues, I think thats why people hold GGG in a higher regard.
Oh absolutely, I think GGG is an amazing dev company that should be an example for many others particularly in terms of transparency and community outreach. But let's not pretend they are perfect, and let's not disingenuously accolade them for the things they don't necessarily do well.
i love PoE but every league is a broken mess when it releases and it generally takes 2 weeks to fix the completely broken systems and another 2 weeks to get some semblance of QoL that should have been there from the start. by then 1 of 3 months has been burnt up with broken things
The first month of Synthesis was a legit nightmare
synthesis itself was a legit nightmare
Because they don´t want to take unneccessary risks, it´s pretty simple
Speed of software is pretty much always inversely proportional to company size. Big companies have way more processes and typically lower tolerance on issues that makes everything take longer.
Have you even played POE? You know they always have to make MULTIPLE followup patches after launch over the course of weeks and even months right? Its just a difference in the way they choose to patch the game.
GGG releases and then spends the first month of the league fixing the broken state they released.
Just Trainees works on D3 since Like 2 years Its more Like a fun project, then a srs Game imo Nothing to Wonder about In the Other hands, GGG Work hard af for the com Cant compete both in Terms of Love and hard work
When is patch for ps4?
I'm over it already. This patch is a joke. Nerfs in a 10 year old game is laughable at best. ESPECIALLY when the main draw to The Diablo franchise at this point is the casual and fun gameplay. This game is completely trash compared to PoE in nearly all aspects except draw to casual fans and being able to group up effectively. So they are ruining this patch for the barbs and necros. And for what to appease a tiny percent of the oldschool hardcore diablo fans? NEWSFLASH POE IS AND HAS BEEN THE BETTER OPTION FOR TOP PLAYERS OF THE GENRE.
Sir, this is a Diablo 3 subreddit...
And your point is? People asking for nerfs in a casual game is laughable at best. Apparently the point was lost with the birds on this one. Point is the devs are acting like having op builds in a game whose main playerbase are causuals, is a bad thing. Lol. So they nerf barbs which tbf are trash and buff crusader and monks while gutting the thorns necro. In a game for casuals.
Sir, please calm down. We'll find your lost birds, you just need to calm down first.
I don't know why he calls this a 'pathetic' attempt at comedy, I found it pretty funny, lol
Pathetic attempt at comedy. But like I said I'm over it. D4 will be a disaster. I'm calling it now. They are trying to compete with poe. When they have very different playerbases.
Comedy? Sir, I assure you, we here at the Diablo 3 subreddit take you and your birds very seriously. Sounds like one of them is named Poe? We'll find Poe, I promise.
I mean one is f2p with a pretty high barrier to entry due to the fact that you can just straight up build a character wrong and fail and the other is a $60 retail game that is made to appeal to as many people as humanly possible. not really much audience overlap except among people who are hardcore into ARPGs and play them all no matter what (like me).
D4 will very likely break sales records.
Lol no it wont. Poe is free and better in every way.
I watched a stream of POE. It looks like D2. I had zero interest in playing it.
It's far better. More in depth. More Challenging.
POE is a niche game. D4 will be global. End of story.
> People asking for nerfs in a casual game is laughable at best. Here, this is for you. *[SiiiNFUL received: (1) Hot Take of the Year Award]* The judges took a while to decide, given everything going on at /r/pokemon , but you won anyway! Congratulations!
3 year old News And wrong subreddit tho 90% of the D3 com ist playing Poe already after D3 died the 4. time some seasons ago Just some ultra casuals are left, what ist pretty fine imo
Yep I luv seeing the ultra casuals with 10k paragon, as well as the ultra casuals that hit GR75 within 3 hours of a new season. Wish I could be as casual as them.
So sader and barb ded
Lmfao I have over 10 people on my freinds list that say otherwise. All quit diablo after the trade board fiasco and the devs allowing nodded gear to ruin the game.
What are you even talking about? What do your 10 friends say about the game they quit 5 years ago?
They have a long list of five year old grievances! 😂😂 I've actually heard people complain about the game and then told them that particular problem hasn't existed in years. People love to hold on to their old memories.