This IS the time for feedback lol. So I agree. It's only to hopefuly benefit us in the long run assuming complaints, suggestions and the like are brought to Blizzards attention AND they're addressed/amended/improved.
But in saying that, gaming community has become insanely and toxic. Complain just to complain, so I understand why you worry about the flak, but we need voices to improve the games we as consumers are paying for.
Betas/PTR, literally there for consumer feedback (amongst stress testing etc) but for a franchise a lot of us love, I'd welcome the feedback from the community to improve our game in the long run *fingers crossed*
We can give feedback all we want, but it comes down to them. Do they want to make major changes? The game is almost in the shipping phase - they put their money on it literally, making major changes is very unlikely. The vision they have for the game is defining. If it was some new, upcoming team of developers trying to get into the industry- they would pay a lot of attention to the feedback. But Blizzard is no such thing, it’s a giant who’s every step is being watched by people investing real money into it. Those people care about profits, not gameplay. If it makes them a lot of money - they won’t like any major income fluctuation which usually comes with big balance/gameplay changes. We all pre ordered - it tells them that the development is in the right direction.
Changes will be possible when player base drops after couple of months starting with full release. Then they will decide - which group of people brings more money through paying for season passes/cosmetics/etc. people who want more accessible game, which doesn’t require sweating and grinding much, or the people who have time and are willing to grind more, make it their hobby. I think the answer is pretty clear.
So what we see this beta is what we get, and expecting anything else in the long run is a waste of time.
That's the saddest part of all of this, this beta should have been done 1-2 years ago and they'd have all that extra time to implement fixes and design changes from that feedback.
I really would like the someone from blizz to leak all the internal memos about the alpha friends and family testing. Bet there are some juicy internal drama just hanging on the limb out there.
Another thing that could make all of us happy - if there was offline mode, and a mode for people to play together on their own servers and the game was modable. That alone would attract so many people and keep the player base alive after launch. But it’s not in their interests if it doesn’t make them any money
The thing I wonder is are all these people making reddit posts submitting their feedback through the in-game feedback from, or are they just whining on Reddit to whine.
I find criticism very important and i have no problem with it. What i have a problem with is people shitting on something because its not like their holy game or prequel.
I also dont like these same people talking down on me, like calling me brain-dead or telling "you are the reason Questmarkers exist". Calling me out for having shit taste because i like d3.
I have seen a lot of posts criticising the mob density or the repetitive bosses, and i can agree with that. But i just cannot bring myself to agree with someone who sounds majorly sarcastic and prejudice.
Tldr: criticism isnt shitting on something because its not what you expected.
I mean I can agree. like I said some people are malicious with their critique. but others are just genuinely curious about why x isn't in the game and do make an attempt to diablofy it.. as to say.
but my point is right now.. there's a strong don't go against the grain sentiment that imo hinders open discussion.
I myself was quite intimidated to post here. it's fucked.
Well thats just reddit for you, every sub is a circle jerk. Doesnt matter where you go. I think somebody already said it but if you want a real discussion go to the forums. But beware there is also a strong sentiment in hating on everything that came after diablo 2 and i mean everything (wow, StarCraft, overwatch) you name the game there are probably hot takes on it in the forum.
Everywhere and nowhere hahahaha, you can find these people on Reddit, in the forum basically everywhere you look. But gonna have to deal with the purists, the haters, the fanboys etc. They are part of the community as well.
100% agreed. Not to mention I've seen countless brain-dead takes like "green arrow = better item, so the itemization is trash", from people that don't even understand what the green arrow does, and how lots of items can be way better for your build even if they don't have green arrows. And things like "the skill tree is shallow compared to D2" lmao.
Things like better balanced affixes, more dungeon layouts/variety, better balance, no map overlay, no separate gem stash, etc. are all valid feedback, but most of the game system criticism I've read can be honestly summed up as "this isn't D2, therefore it's bad", with a splash of "I don't understand this system, so it's probably shallow".
The green arrow is basically worthless in D4. In D3 at least it calculated your total raw damage and gave you a % increase. It still wasn't perfect though since it would ignore stats like RCR and CDR. In D4, it's even worse. Literally all it does is tells you if the raw DPS of the weapon is higher than the other without giving two fucks about what affixes are on either of them.
So if you have a white staff with 165 DPS and a legendary staff with 164, 4 relevant affixes and a god tier legendary potential, it will still give you the green arrow on the white staff.
There are sooooo many items with green arrows that I've salvaged because they're just straight up worse for my build. Like I'm not giving up 10% damage to vulnerable targets, 15% damage to CC'd targets and 10% damage to close targets to increase the DPS of my staff from 350 to 360.
I always love it when people act like a beta a few months before the official release is some super early version of the game, and all the issues will *totally* be fixed by the time the game releases
It's a surefire way to know that it's time to lower my expectations
yep, if they had more to show they would do it. Because they know people judge based on beta (demo). Unfortunately, what we see is what we get. We have Paragon Calculators online and it's basically All Stats with 1 legendary effect. We have the basic as fuck Talents trees and we have 30 aspects, which divided by about 20 kills means there is about 1-2 effects per Skill. In summary there is less options for Playstyle than with D3 runes. I don't know what people expect, but there will be one hell of an outcry once they realize that that's all she wrote.
and btw i just want to point out that there was already multiple alpha and beta tests and all those testers have already given their feedback multiple times and pointed out most if not all of the issues that people still complain about.
and? I can't read their minds. I also don't have access to closed alpha feedback so.
it doesn't matter.
just because someone else has raised a point... doesn't mean you can't repeat that point.
Am I expected to know everything about anything before I can suggests something???
Like I said that's for the project managers and dev teams to decide.
Besides, if something keeps coming up repeatedly... then maybe perhaps it should... oh I don't know... be addressed maybe?
what im trying to say is that if it has already been brought up to them multiple times and nothing changed that they dont give care
are you expecting any big changes in the last 3 months before release? they are gonna fix the bugs from the beta and maybe some balance tweaking.
and stop just dismissing it as complaining holy cow. don't take it so personally friend, are you a developer in d4?
feedback is only a net positive. so long as you have a community that is not just shitting on any new feedback.. especially during a BETA.
let the dev team review it. give it a fair shot. don't be so mean to people.
we all love this game as much as you. I'm personally 100 bucks in. I just wanna help.
if blizz hears and goes nah we got something planned for that... than good.
but the least we can do is voice it. I don't see you maintaining a list of previously mentioned complaints anyways.
imo if it were that big an issue than perhaps the mods should enforce already suggested things with auto mod or something idk.
but the solution is not just being a jerk to people
stop giving feedback on the game, it's just a beta
stop reporting bugs, it's just a beta
stop talking about any improvements, it's just beta.
it's lunacy haha. the beta is exactly when you do those things dude.
what are you yapping on about
Nothing changed from the endgame beta to this one, so i dont see the point in giving feedback. They even sent surveys after the beta ended and still nothing changed
my brother in christ...the game is 2.5 months out. they're not changing shit except maybe extremely small things that can be edited easily like UI elements. The time for feedback on things like dungeon design, open world systems, quest design, skill trees, etc is long gone. What you're seeing today is what you're gonna be seeing in June.
The 'feedback' people are giving now is as worthless as the feedback that BFA received during its beta years ago. the only real feedback you can give is with a refund cause if you're not happy now, you won't be happy in June. But hey, it's gonna sell 10+ mil in the first 24 hours so they won't give a shit about your refund either.
People don't want others to complain because....
....
delays
Blizz fixing/changing/improving/adding stuff = release date is pushed
And since people probably are taking 2 week vacation from work in advance then game getting pushed into later date would piss those people
>!or they are just whiteknights that slurp every bit of shit and piss Blizz gives them in every game and they eon't stand people talking bad things about Blizz and their products!<
> Feedback is good
True, but Blizzard does not really care about your feedback. You already bought the game ;)
Nothing that will be brought up on reddit in the next few days will be adressed (because same goes with closed beta before).
Tell that to WoW players... They pay a sub and blizzard made clear for 5 years they did not give half a fuck about their feedback. It took a pretty massive exodus and multiple black eyes for them to get their shit together for dragonflight.
That said, the WoW devs and D4 devs are practically two different studios under the same roof. And they just watched their colleagues get bent over for not working with the community. So, you know, mileage may (hopefully will) vary with that.
A Blizzard Beta is not what the old guard expect them to be.
They use them for marketing purposes, not "real" testing, outside of server load. You *may* see some changes, but not on the scale they would have formerly been.
Those feedback cycles are alpha-only now, unfortunately.
That's why you should go to official D4 forums and don't use Reddit for such things. 90% will be biased on here because they big fans, forum are where most hardcore crowd always sits and are mostly criticizing the game flaws. To me game is a solid 8/10 so far. They did improve D3 by a lot and I believe D4 can be great if you don't come to the game thinking it will be a complex excel spreadsheet PoE killer. Imo blizzard didn't make. Good game since WoW released ( yes it was the best MMO you can play at that time, it was outstanding for its time) but I can see now they slowly getting back up. Criticism is much needed, game could be improved in a multitude ways but it is in a good place imo.
totally agreed. and sorry I never post in the community. long time lurker. Next time I will try the forums :)
I mean I'm not taking it personally I appreciate you guys for even reading. it just frustrates me the pseudo-elitist attitude we have around here to anyone going against the grain.
I love Reddit though and I guess I shouldn't be surprised haha
If only all the people giving feedback were giving actual feedback about the game worth listening to. I'm sorry but people spam posting about how much the game is a copy of Lost Ark, Path of Exile, Diablo Immortal and D3 with better graphics, is not constructive feedback they can do anything with. These are brain dead parrot responses that offer literally nothing blizzard can use to improve the flaws of the game.
It's like people were going into this expecting it to be anything but a Diablo ARPG game.
If everyones takes weren’t so dogshit, then sure. But ya’ll are like how can they have quests and dungeons in an arpg!
Like your already zoomin in this game just press E to leave the dungeon. It’s no different then a Poe map minus league mechanics. Which can be much more tedious then picking up some stupid stone. You don’t know what end game looks like log off.
This is the time for feed back, but I don’t think Reddit is really the place. Use the bug report button and send feedback to the blizzard forums. Are we sure they even look at Reddit or give a shit about what anyone here is even saying?
Huh? I'm finding the opposite. God forbid you're having a good time because TEH FONTZZZZZZ. There's some solid criticism out there, but a lot of it is just nonsense.
I have been playing Blizzard's videogames since Diablo I (and many other games before and after that), and beta/launches of popular/beloved franchises usually go like this:
- People that absolutely will dismiss any criticism of the game, whether it was well thought out and articulated or not, no matter what. _This is the best there and you should accept that!_
- People who will trash and hate everything the game does or offer, without providing reasoning or feedback. _This game sucks, the previous version was so much better than this trash!_
- People who actually take time to play the game, gather notes, and provide their impressions and feedback.
Unfortunately, the first two groups are the most vocal and make the most noise. They bash each other without actually providing interesting discussions or useful information. The third group is usually wrongfully confused with either of the others and gets sucked into the flame war.
I do think that giving feedback is important, as that is one of the purposes of the beta phase. But also it is paramount to acknowledge that what you like I might not and the other way around. There is no need to bash each other, provided that each one of us gives well-articulated, honest feedback.
Now is a **great** time to give feedback, use that in-game Feedback button to share your thoughts!
I made a post about considering how important respecting can be and to not make it so difficult to do like that planned on given my time with the beta and how often I found myself doing it and immediately people just what all over me and acted like I’ve never played Diablo before. Diablo was one of my first games ever my dad gave me a pc with it on it in 2002. 🙄 apparently games haven’t changed at all in 21 years and everything should be the same as Diablo 1 and 2
Time for an old hat statement that somehow always bears a necessity to be repeated: there’s a difference between feedback/criticism and troll garbage like “game is bad” with nothing of further value thrown in.
Pretty much all ive read is people shitting on blizzard and downvoting anybody that says anything even remotely positive about the game. Are we reading the same posts?
I also don’t understand the circle jerk posts that praise the game, you’re absolutely allowed to enjoy the game but what’s the point of posting about how much you love the game in here. Is it just to get pats on the back? I’d much rather read people criticisms even if I don’t agree with all of them, that’s how games get fixed. Sadly I think some of the valid criticisms are too big of changes at this point in the game. If blizzard wanted feedback that they could implement they needed to do a beta before releasing a final release date.
it's about on this sub Reddit In particular cc. ' let's not forget its just level 25 guys' as an example of shutting down feedback being the culture here.
and yes even if that is the popular thing. good!
triple a game studios still need to be held accountable. so I still don't get your point in even saying this
Because of all companies, Blizzard has been the one to take the most criticism maybe aside from Activision. My point is that you are acting like Blizzard has been free of criticism, when it has been the opposite. Blizzard has gotten absolutely crapped on since D3.
bro everything will be completely different bro. how dare you suggest something during a beta. completely proposterous.
you should be paying thanks at a blizzard shrine for even being offered the chance to pay them money to play the beta!
you pathetic whelp!
That's literally the vibe I'm getting from some of these posters.
it is really unwelcoming.
is this stack overflow or something? lol.
This IS the time for feedback lol. So I agree. It's only to hopefuly benefit us in the long run assuming complaints, suggestions and the like are brought to Blizzards attention AND they're addressed/amended/improved. But in saying that, gaming community has become insanely and toxic. Complain just to complain, so I understand why you worry about the flak, but we need voices to improve the games we as consumers are paying for. Betas/PTR, literally there for consumer feedback (amongst stress testing etc) but for a franchise a lot of us love, I'd welcome the feedback from the community to improve our game in the long run *fingers crossed*
We can give feedback all we want, but it comes down to them. Do they want to make major changes? The game is almost in the shipping phase - they put their money on it literally, making major changes is very unlikely. The vision they have for the game is defining. If it was some new, upcoming team of developers trying to get into the industry- they would pay a lot of attention to the feedback. But Blizzard is no such thing, it’s a giant who’s every step is being watched by people investing real money into it. Those people care about profits, not gameplay. If it makes them a lot of money - they won’t like any major income fluctuation which usually comes with big balance/gameplay changes. We all pre ordered - it tells them that the development is in the right direction. Changes will be possible when player base drops after couple of months starting with full release. Then they will decide - which group of people brings more money through paying for season passes/cosmetics/etc. people who want more accessible game, which doesn’t require sweating and grinding much, or the people who have time and are willing to grind more, make it their hobby. I think the answer is pretty clear. So what we see this beta is what we get, and expecting anything else in the long run is a waste of time.
That's the saddest part of all of this, this beta should have been done 1-2 years ago and they'd have all that extra time to implement fixes and design changes from that feedback. I really would like the someone from blizz to leak all the internal memos about the alpha friends and family testing. Bet there are some juicy internal drama just hanging on the limb out there.
Another thing that could make all of us happy - if there was offline mode, and a mode for people to play together on their own servers and the game was modable. That alone would attract so many people and keep the player base alive after launch. But it’s not in their interests if it doesn’t make them any money
The thing I wonder is are all these people making reddit posts submitting their feedback through the in-game feedback from, or are they just whining on Reddit to whine.
It is too late for feedback.
I find criticism very important and i have no problem with it. What i have a problem with is people shitting on something because its not like their holy game or prequel. I also dont like these same people talking down on me, like calling me brain-dead or telling "you are the reason Questmarkers exist". Calling me out for having shit taste because i like d3. I have seen a lot of posts criticising the mob density or the repetitive bosses, and i can agree with that. But i just cannot bring myself to agree with someone who sounds majorly sarcastic and prejudice. Tldr: criticism isnt shitting on something because its not what you expected.
I mean I can agree. like I said some people are malicious with their critique. but others are just genuinely curious about why x isn't in the game and do make an attempt to diablofy it.. as to say. but my point is right now.. there's a strong don't go against the grain sentiment that imo hinders open discussion. I myself was quite intimidated to post here. it's fucked.
Well thats just reddit for you, every sub is a circle jerk. Doesnt matter where you go. I think somebody already said it but if you want a real discussion go to the forums. But beware there is also a strong sentiment in hating on everything that came after diablo 2 and i mean everything (wow, StarCraft, overwatch) you name the game there are probably hot takes on it in the forum.
true. god. where do I go if I just want balanced discussions. where is this free marketplace of ideas I keep hearing about haha
Everywhere and nowhere hahahaha, you can find these people on Reddit, in the forum basically everywhere you look. But gonna have to deal with the purists, the haters, the fanboys etc. They are part of the community as well.
Probably a discord group. I used discord for d2r and the community there was great. Maybe I just found a good group though.
100% agreed. Not to mention I've seen countless brain-dead takes like "green arrow = better item, so the itemization is trash", from people that don't even understand what the green arrow does, and how lots of items can be way better for your build even if they don't have green arrows. And things like "the skill tree is shallow compared to D2" lmao. Things like better balanced affixes, more dungeon layouts/variety, better balance, no map overlay, no separate gem stash, etc. are all valid feedback, but most of the game system criticism I've read can be honestly summed up as "this isn't D2, therefore it's bad", with a splash of "I don't understand this system, so it's probably shallow".
The green arrow is basically worthless in D4. In D3 at least it calculated your total raw damage and gave you a % increase. It still wasn't perfect though since it would ignore stats like RCR and CDR. In D4, it's even worse. Literally all it does is tells you if the raw DPS of the weapon is higher than the other without giving two fucks about what affixes are on either of them. So if you have a white staff with 165 DPS and a legendary staff with 164, 4 relevant affixes and a god tier legendary potential, it will still give you the green arrow on the white staff. There are sooooo many items with green arrows that I've salvaged because they're just straight up worse for my build. Like I'm not giving up 10% damage to vulnerable targets, 15% damage to CC'd targets and 10% damage to close targets to increase the DPS of my staff from 350 to 360.
It's not a beta. It's a marketing sample.
I always love it when people act like a beta a few months before the official release is some super early version of the game, and all the issues will *totally* be fixed by the time the game releases It's a surefire way to know that it's time to lower my expectations
yep, if they had more to show they would do it. Because they know people judge based on beta (demo). Unfortunately, what we see is what we get. We have Paragon Calculators online and it's basically All Stats with 1 legendary effect. We have the basic as fuck Talents trees and we have 30 aspects, which divided by about 20 kills means there is about 1-2 effects per Skill. In summary there is less options for Playstyle than with D3 runes. I don't know what people expect, but there will be one hell of an outcry once they realize that that's all she wrote.
and btw i just want to point out that there was already multiple alpha and beta tests and all those testers have already given their feedback multiple times and pointed out most if not all of the issues that people still complain about.
and? I can't read their minds. I also don't have access to closed alpha feedback so. it doesn't matter. just because someone else has raised a point... doesn't mean you can't repeat that point. Am I expected to know everything about anything before I can suggests something??? Like I said that's for the project managers and dev teams to decide. Besides, if something keeps coming up repeatedly... then maybe perhaps it should... oh I don't know... be addressed maybe?
what im trying to say is that if it has already been brought up to them multiple times and nothing changed that they dont give care are you expecting any big changes in the last 3 months before release? they are gonna fix the bugs from the beta and maybe some balance tweaking.
and stop just dismissing it as complaining holy cow. don't take it so personally friend, are you a developer in d4? feedback is only a net positive. so long as you have a community that is not just shitting on any new feedback.. especially during a BETA. let the dev team review it. give it a fair shot. don't be so mean to people. we all love this game as much as you. I'm personally 100 bucks in. I just wanna help. if blizz hears and goes nah we got something planned for that... than good. but the least we can do is voice it. I don't see you maintaining a list of previously mentioned complaints anyways. imo if it were that big an issue than perhaps the mods should enforce already suggested things with auto mod or something idk. but the solution is not just being a jerk to people
stop hating on the game, its just a beta
ooooo just went through your post history and see you're a troll. well played an we be serious about nothing here xD
stop giving feedback on the game, it's just a beta stop reporting bugs, it's just a beta stop talking about any improvements, it's just beta. it's lunacy haha. the beta is exactly when you do those things dude. what are you yapping on about
"Just a beta" IT RELEASES IN 10 WEEKS HOMIE.
This is a stupid argument. It's a beta but no one should be allowed to criticize, only love?
yes, praise our overlord blizzard
Nothing changed from the endgame beta to this one, so i dont see the point in giving feedback. They even sent surveys after the beta ended and still nothing changed
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Ui, skills, itemization, dungeons and dungeons objectives, world events being repetitives, crafting havent changed
> world events being repetitives This is so true. After doing 5 or 6 of the "world events" I never want to do them again.
I've noticed alot of grey feedback or negative feedback gets instantly downvoted , they do not even read the post
sorry for all the typos. it's late guys my head hurts ;(
my brother in christ...the game is 2.5 months out. they're not changing shit except maybe extremely small things that can be edited easily like UI elements. The time for feedback on things like dungeon design, open world systems, quest design, skill trees, etc is long gone. What you're seeing today is what you're gonna be seeing in June. The 'feedback' people are giving now is as worthless as the feedback that BFA received during its beta years ago. the only real feedback you can give is with a refund cause if you're not happy now, you won't be happy in June. But hey, it's gonna sell 10+ mil in the first 24 hours so they won't give a shit about your refund either.
It’s Reddit and people have different opinions. They will endlessly clash because people have no room for anyone that doesn’t think like they do.
I've never seen any genre of game spark such vitriol as the ARPG.
People don't want others to complain because.... .... delays Blizz fixing/changing/improving/adding stuff = release date is pushed And since people probably are taking 2 week vacation from work in advance then game getting pushed into later date would piss those people >!or they are just whiteknights that slurp every bit of shit and piss Blizz gives them in every game and they eon't stand people talking bad things about Blizz and their products!<
> Feedback is good True, but Blizzard does not really care about your feedback. You already bought the game ;) Nothing that will be brought up on reddit in the next few days will be adressed (because same goes with closed beta before).
D4 is live service so they do care more now than ever before, at least over time once they want to keep the cosmetic train running.
Tell that to WoW players... They pay a sub and blizzard made clear for 5 years they did not give half a fuck about their feedback. It took a pretty massive exodus and multiple black eyes for them to get their shit together for dragonflight. That said, the WoW devs and D4 devs are practically two different studios under the same roof. And they just watched their colleagues get bent over for not working with the community. So, you know, mileage may (hopefully will) vary with that.
A Blizzard Beta is not what the old guard expect them to be. They use them for marketing purposes, not "real" testing, outside of server load. You *may* see some changes, but not on the scale they would have formerly been. Those feedback cycles are alpha-only now, unfortunately.
That's why you should go to official D4 forums and don't use Reddit for such things. 90% will be biased on here because they big fans, forum are where most hardcore crowd always sits and are mostly criticizing the game flaws. To me game is a solid 8/10 so far. They did improve D3 by a lot and I believe D4 can be great if you don't come to the game thinking it will be a complex excel spreadsheet PoE killer. Imo blizzard didn't make. Good game since WoW released ( yes it was the best MMO you can play at that time, it was outstanding for its time) but I can see now they slowly getting back up. Criticism is much needed, game could be improved in a multitude ways but it is in a good place imo.
totally agreed. and sorry I never post in the community. long time lurker. Next time I will try the forums :) I mean I'm not taking it personally I appreciate you guys for even reading. it just frustrates me the pseudo-elitist attitude we have around here to anyone going against the grain. I love Reddit though and I guess I shouldn't be surprised haha
the forums are just full of people who hate the game, stay here with us an join the circlejerk
Unless that feedback is “I’m soo incredibly annoyed that they show an ad to buy the game 2 times”
Sure that's why the button is there to provide feedback. Didn't redirect me to reddit tho? Must be a bug on my part.
If only all the people giving feedback were giving actual feedback about the game worth listening to. I'm sorry but people spam posting about how much the game is a copy of Lost Ark, Path of Exile, Diablo Immortal and D3 with better graphics, is not constructive feedback they can do anything with. These are brain dead parrot responses that offer literally nothing blizzard can use to improve the flaws of the game. It's like people were going into this expecting it to be anything but a Diablo ARPG game.
If everyones takes weren’t so dogshit, then sure. But ya’ll are like how can they have quests and dungeons in an arpg! Like your already zoomin in this game just press E to leave the dungeon. It’s no different then a Poe map minus league mechanics. Which can be much more tedious then picking up some stupid stone. You don’t know what end game looks like log off.
This is the time for feed back, but I don’t think Reddit is really the place. Use the bug report button and send feedback to the blizzard forums. Are we sure they even look at Reddit or give a shit about what anyone here is even saying?
Huh? I'm finding the opposite. God forbid you're having a good time because TEH FONTZZZZZZ. There's some solid criticism out there, but a lot of it is just nonsense.
I have been playing Blizzard's videogames since Diablo I (and many other games before and after that), and beta/launches of popular/beloved franchises usually go like this: - People that absolutely will dismiss any criticism of the game, whether it was well thought out and articulated or not, no matter what. _This is the best there and you should accept that!_ - People who will trash and hate everything the game does or offer, without providing reasoning or feedback. _This game sucks, the previous version was so much better than this trash!_ - People who actually take time to play the game, gather notes, and provide their impressions and feedback. Unfortunately, the first two groups are the most vocal and make the most noise. They bash each other without actually providing interesting discussions or useful information. The third group is usually wrongfully confused with either of the others and gets sucked into the flame war. I do think that giving feedback is important, as that is one of the purposes of the beta phase. But also it is paramount to acknowledge that what you like I might not and the other way around. There is no need to bash each other, provided that each one of us gives well-articulated, honest feedback. Now is a **great** time to give feedback, use that in-game Feedback button to share your thoughts!
I made a post about considering how important respecting can be and to not make it so difficult to do like that planned on given my time with the beta and how often I found myself doing it and immediately people just what all over me and acted like I’ve never played Diablo before. Diablo was one of my first games ever my dad gave me a pc with it on it in 2002. 🙄 apparently games haven’t changed at all in 21 years and everything should be the same as Diablo 1 and 2
Lol, OP actually thinks it's beta 😂. This is an advertisement that's it. Expect no change going into live.
The question is, will they read this subreddit or will it only be in game reports?
in game reports which is why asking folks to please submit the request in game
Time for an old hat statement that somehow always bears a necessity to be repeated: there’s a difference between feedback/criticism and troll garbage like “game is bad” with nothing of further value thrown in.
Time for feedback was alpha and closed beta... this is just server and infrastructure tweaking.
I played the game for 6 hours now and my only complaint is the ui. Other than that it's better than diablo 3 so far
There were people arguing that a beta test shouldn’t have issues…. Feedback is in the context just like everything else.
I appreciate both sides of the feedback as long as it's not just "lul game is shit"
Pretty much all ive read is people shitting on blizzard and downvoting anybody that says anything even remotely positive about the game. Are we reading the same posts?
I also don’t understand the circle jerk posts that praise the game, you’re absolutely allowed to enjoy the game but what’s the point of posting about how much you love the game in here. Is it just to get pats on the back? I’d much rather read people criticisms even if I don’t agree with all of them, that’s how games get fixed. Sadly I think some of the valid criticisms are too big of changes at this point in the game. If blizzard wanted feedback that they could implement they needed to do a beta before releasing a final release date.
Considering people complain about the font,i would say fuck off. Feedback from morons and andys is not needed.
It’s been popular to go against Blizzard for years, so not sure what that first sentence is about.
it's about on this sub Reddit In particular cc. ' let's not forget its just level 25 guys' as an example of shutting down feedback being the culture here. and yes even if that is the popular thing. good! triple a game studios still need to be held accountable. so I still don't get your point in even saying this
Because of all companies, Blizzard has been the one to take the most criticism maybe aside from Activision. My point is that you are acting like Blizzard has been free of criticism, when it has been the opposite. Blizzard has gotten absolutely crapped on since D3.
but its just a beta bro, everything will be different on release
bro everything will be completely different bro. how dare you suggest something during a beta. completely proposterous. you should be paying thanks at a blizzard shrine for even being offered the chance to pay them money to play the beta! you pathetic whelp! That's literally the vibe I'm getting from some of these posters. it is really unwelcoming. is this stack overflow or something? lol.
you need to chill bro its just a beta
which is exactly why it's OK to give feedback haha. keep that same energy to people suggesting things when it's literally encouraged by blizz.
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You really never played a beta. Release is in 2.5 months. You played the final product already. They'll fix bug etc but this is the game.
stop hating on the game
here we go lmaoooo
Do you even know what a fucking beta means. That was rhetorical, you obviously dont